Why dont millennials attend trade school?
please check your skill privilege
>>68798338
because they think a shitty sociology degree makes them an intellectual
Because it's a stupid meme.
What you are basically implying is that markets don't work. Because if there was really jobs to he had and lots of money to be made without going to college trade school would be flooded with people.
the chicks are more masculine then the dudes. wtf
is there something in the water?
>>68798338
Because they've been told their entire lives that if
they don't go to college they're a failure.
>>68798338
All dat entitlement.
>>68798338
They rarely tell you about it in school unless you purposely take construction/woods tech and auto tech .
>>68798338
They do. If millennials didn't attend trade schools, there probably wouldn't be trade schools.
What the fuck are you saying?
>>68798338
They want their transgender African dance theory degree to be worth six-figures instead of five.
>>68798684
I think he means white millenials.
>>68798684
>millennials represent all trade school applicants
>being this autistic to not understand what OP meant
fuck off retard.
It's sad watching us go from the greatest generation to the last generation.
These "men" are pathetic. Perma-children.
>>68798824
I understand what he meant.
I just think he's dumb for saying it.
There's 20 million people employed in a trade:
http://www.bls.gov/emp/ep_table_201.htm
which is coincidently the same number of people in higher education:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higher_education_in_the_United_States
So at the very best you can maybe displace 0.5% to 1% of people from college to trade schools. It's definitely not the solution you think it is.
>>68798869
You're whining on an anonymous internet message board filled with frog memes and anime girls.
>>68798338
I attended trade school for welding and am making more than my friends who went to college but it's not a easy job.
>>68798546
The big girl on the left looks like she could pop out 8 kids, work the fields all day and still have time for some loving
>>68798338
Jesus Christ, just look at them... There's no hope for the future.
>I'm too good for trade school.
>I'd rather get a gender studies degree and become a professional blogger
>I don't make enough to pay off my student loans.
>Women make 0.77 to every $1 men make.
>I can't wait to cuck my boyfriend tonight.
>Bernie is the only sane candidate in this race.
>Dumb redneck republishits don't see the wonders of socialism. lol dumb boot lickers
>I'm moving to Canada if Drumpf gets elected
>>68798488
>if there was really jobs to he had and lots of money to be made without going to college trade school would be flooded with people
It's because nobody goes that there's so much money to be made.
Because blue collar work is seen as inferior to white collar work: no one wants to work on their knees and handling big power tools puts you at risk of losing a limb or two, even if you're careful.
>>68798488
there actually are though
we are in a high demand of electricians, plumbers, carpenters, roofers, welders, extra.
the issue is yes these jobs won't pay you $90k a year and treat you like a unique special individual that makes you feel good and actually requires effort and a level of physical labor, but they pay decent and are in demand. they have been for a long ass time.
i'm taking a few cisco classes this semester (already received my rhca) and you be surprised by how many legal mexicans, some chinks, and a few pajeets with only a couple of white people are in the program. we have a wall of "graduates". those that have taken and received their ccna and more than half the last names are not white.
whites are being manipulated and fooled into thinking they need a $50k bachelors degree to get a decent paying job. the university system is that, a system. its a for profit enterprise under the guise of a non profit state funded academia institution. so many get deceived into going off to college believing their philosophy degree is going to land them a $110k salary one month after graduation.
meanwhile that guy that went and received his welding certification after six months of studying and four years later is netting a nice $55k a year with zero debt.
>i know because that's my brother who went off and got his wielder certification. hes currently working for a large elevator manufacturer.
but no they wont go after those jobs because they believe its beneath them and their some glorified intellectual where the sun shines out of their ass.
>>68798338
Because they're lazy, entitled, and believe themselves to be too good for an honest day's work.
>>68799769
I will probably attend the lineman apprenticeship after college. Its a good, steady pay. More importantly, the trade is in high demand
>>68798338
because they're soft handed little faggots
>>68799769
You can make $90k a year in construction easy if you're in the right market and a few rungs up the ladder.
>>68798338
I majored in graphic design hoping to be as ubermensch as german designers. I didn't know that I would have mendacious pussy fart feminist professors.
My major aside, I learned more on my own from 4chan than college could have ever done.
I wanted to drop out as a junior but I stuck through it. It only got worse and worse.
>>68798338
Work in Telecommunications as a Technician.
Pretty damn easy work and it's unionzed
>>68800207
>majored in graphic design
>>68799999
check em', son
>>68799999
I've been looking into it too.
Linemen working the power lines around Seattle are hiring starting at $35/hour plus benefits.
>>68800073
a girl i'm seeing is a union electrician and makes $50/h. Yeah it's canadabucks but it's still a pretty sweet salary for replacing street light bulbs.
>>68799999
you will become one of the most skilled and sought after person in your field. Your dream has gained meme power.
>>68799529
You stupid shithead, the future was fucked long before millennials reached voting age. The cunts who were here before us and their cunt parents fucked up the systems for the millennials and then blame us for things going bad, even when we haven't had time or opportunity to build any momentum.
The trades shortage is a meme
>>68799803
Entitled to what?
I'm 21 years of age, so technically a millenial.
I went for an interview at a company, I didn't get the job I applied for. That company then went back to my recruiter, and said "hold on a sec, we got a job in another department which this candidate could do". I'm now employed doing pic related.
I don't even give a shit, its a menial fucking job but at least i see money in my bank account every fucking week, rather than like £100 per 2 weeks claiming benefits.
It's really fucking retarded that people around my age are so fucking bone idle and entitled. Most people would turn down a job like this because it's "beneath them". There are people who will never apply to places like McDonalds or other service jobs because "I'm better than that" with their shitty College BTEC certificates and questionable degree with no experience behind them.
They don't want to do apprenticeships, they don't want to do work experience/internship/temping, they want to turn up for a job they fucking like and expect £10 an hour for it. This new job is fucking minimum wage, but it's going to be my gateway into the company, enabling me to move into a more permanent role if I do a good job, or finding better pay elsewhere.
It's just disgusting and no one is addressing these problems.
>>68798565
This. They are told their whole life by their parents and peers that no college = failure. My parents never told me that trade schools were an option and I have been kicking myself for not finding out before college.
>>68799769
They believe this because they have been told that their whole lives. It is the result of the coddled generation where participation was good enough for merit.
>>68799803
Partially true. Don't be too hard on them, they grew up during a time with record high youth unemployment. They also probably never grew up doing any manual labor whatsoever because they lived in a small lot of land. I had the opportunity to do yard work growing up that made me learn the value of a hard days work, but this was an opportunity presented to me by my parents.
We need to remind ourselves that children are inherently ignorant so their decisions are a product of the environment their parents raised them it.
>>68800571
>union electrician and makes $50/h
That's really good even if it is canadabucks. Especially if you live Ontario, where you don't have that western premium. But since it's that high of a wage I'm assuming it's in alberta/bc
>>68798338
sweat is icky
>>68800921
It's in BC, yeah. And of course the union takes their fat slice of the pie as well, but I'm still jealous.
>>68800073
Some Mexicans you see you working the asphalt roads can make up to 100,000 a year
In the Mexicans you doing the roofing make like 80 grand a year also
>>68800812
literally slave wage
I got more during my apprenticeship
>>68801108
Thanks for ignoring the message of my post.
>>68800685
maybe in canada where the economy is going to shit.
I'm about to finish up schooling here in the next few months, and I've seen a lot of millennials there who are actually genuinely interested in trade work. But even then you get those faggots in there who obviously don't give a shit and just want to do some school they think will be easy so their parents stop bitching at them about going to school or some shit.
>>68800812
Good for you anon, it's shit money but you've got to start out at the bottom sometimes. A man has to work.
>>68800207
You majored in a field that you can gain knowledge of for free on the internet. But that is okay Anon, I don't blame you. Our generation had to learn how to use the internet on our own while our parents couldn't even create an e-mail account without someone holding their hand. We received really shitty advice and were born too early.
I'm not very good with my hands, my hand eye coordination is shit tier and I figured I'd injure myself sooner than later. That's my excuse anyway, I think most people study what they want to study....which tend to be over saturated fields and/or useles degrees
>>68800812
Maybe the problem is that you have a recruiter looking for a job for you? Why not man up and get a job for yourself. Network.
>>68801108
that's the millennial attitude, if it's not $50/hr it's not good enough.
>>68800507
I live in the deepsouth and its about $40+ here
I'm considering it
Trying to decide between plumbing or electrician
Because you don't get a six figure salary right out of college through trade school.
>>68801602
Not how it worked senpai, I applied for a job, recruiters over here are basically like HR departments, they weed out useless people before sending people they think would be right to interview,
Basically 2 interviews for a job.
>>68800073
Dallas and Austin are the hottest markets for construction at the moment and there's no way you're going to make 90k in construction unless you're an executive or owner of a construction company.
Here are some real numbers from an electrician who works in these two markets:
$22k - $48k for a non-supervisor electrician (1-10 years experience)
$54k - $65k for an electrical superintendent role
$50k - $72k for a general contractor superintendent position
carpenter/laborer: $20k - $33k
Plumber/welder: similar to electrician pay
>>68801471
>You majored in a field that you can gain knowledge of for free on the internet
thats literally every major pretty much.
you can learn 99% of the material online then go to college and breeze through everything.
but you can't expect liberal faggots to think of that I guess.
>>68801820
You don't get a six figure salary right out college either and I doubt a majority of them believe that.
>>68802058
I did though.
>buncha retard hipsters listening to some old commie who's never had a job
>>68798869
Greatest generation were the worst commies ever m8
buncha negro loving progressives
>>68798338
Work is hard.
>>68802164
>Greatest Generation
>progressives
>off by one generation
You mean Boomers?
>>68802167
It's not that work is hard, it just requires more effort and brainpower than playing angry birds, uploading a selfie or blogging about how white people are evil.
I attended a trade school and the certificate wasn't worth the paper it was printed on. All i want to do is work on fucking cars and because i'm not some shop owner's son, i can't get a fucking job.
So i restore busted ass motorcycles all day, i have a big ass binder full of my projects, and i STILL can't get hired despite being more skilled than the guy i bought my last new bike off of.
Fuck babybomers, Fuck their insistance on not-training ever, fuck their over-reliance on "experience" and most of all, fuck baby boomers a 2nd goddamn time because i'm so mad i can't think straight at the moment.
>>68802540
Google is your friend, hat.
>>68801820
You don't get a 6 figure salary out of nearly anything.
Unless you are a socially awkward Harvard SJW who is drowning in debt.
>>68800812
>It's really fucking retarded that people around my age are so fucking bone idle and entitled. Most people would turn down a job like this because it's "beneath them". There are people who will never apply to places like McDonalds or other service jobs because "I'm better than that" with their shitty College BTEC certificates and questionable degree with no experience behind them.
Believe me, bro. I would do it, but a college degree causes employers when want to check you resume to go...
>Your overqualified!
>Why aren't you doing your major studies?
If you don't get a good paying job in college, you literally destroy your net worth and job aspect. GED have better economical future then a college graduate because they aren't sack with debt, and can apply for a greater range of jobs.
listen up you delusional boomers and dysfunctional gen-Xers:
You either give me the job I deserve, or I'll have the goverment steal your money for me. I literally don't care about your feelings. Stop intentionally hiring unintelligent and incompetent people because you are insecure about your own horrible work-ethic and ability. I feel no shame in contributing to destroy this society if I don't get my way. You are overgrown babies and I don't take your opinions seriously whatsoever.
Nursing fields = smartest choice
>>68802676
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-salary-for-new-grads-starting-at-Facebook-in-2015
>>68802626
Coon rights movement and all that liberal madness started in the 40s
Well before boomers were in any position of authority
>>68802043
You are right, but I would argue that most majors related to STEM are easier to learn in a structured environment and the projects are more applicable to employers. My senior design in electrical engineering was a key factor for gaining employment. But anything related to learning a programming language and computer architecture can and should be self taught. It would be easier and show employers you have a passion for what you do if you create your own graphical interface or whatever and is completely doable without wasting four years + $40k.
I didn't go to trade school, I went to trade
>>68802754
Couldn't you just leave your degree off your resume?
>>68802994
Yeah that makes the cripping debt go away too.
>>68799277
underrated post
Because MSM has promoted college education as has society so much that it takes developed a stigma even tho it's the better route for many Americans trust me.
>>68803056
Maybe don't go massively into debt for no reason ?
>>68802805
You just posted the nearly anything. Not everyone can work at Facebook.
>>68802952
>>68798338
because they're niggers
>>68798338
To lazy to actually do manual labor...."YOU MEAN I ACTUALLY HAVE TO STAND OUT HERE IN THE COLD?!?!"
>>68798338
Because they know manual labor is for spics and niggers.
>>68803056
A job makes the debt go away, no?
![Chart-E3-5_e[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/RKgBerA.gif "Chart-E3-5_e[1].gif")
>>68798338
Because trade schools are the short term gain plan.
People with a college degree make almost twice as much money as some one without over their working life.
It just takes time to ramp up.
However, there are some bonus to trades.
>income less effected by economy
>Skills learned are actually useful towards saving money(doing your own plumbing for example)
>income dependent on hours(can work 70 hours a week for mad money)
Compared to white collar college jobs
>Income heavily depedant on economy(salaries will soar when it improves, practically unlivable when bad like right now)
>Skills learned highly specialized and information based rather than skill based(no matter how much you know about banking you can't create your own mortgage)
>income is salaried
I personally choose College because I am willing to plan for the future.
>>68802994
Why would you do that..?
You would look underqualified if you were applying to something related to your major.
I wouldn't refuse that job because of the pay, but because it has a net negative effect on your job prospects.
>>68802532
I know feel, most them sold away the American dream for a suburban condo in Boca Vista.
>>68798338
It's seen as a bit low brow for a lot of people, not to mention a lot of the middle class really has no practical skills at this point or any experience with trades.
Millenials dont like blue collar/working class jobs. Even though trades pay more than many of the 'intellectual' jobs, they still see those as beneath them. I know adjunct profs and librarians who think plumbers, electricians, et al are folks even though those jobs make several times what these scholarly folks do.
This is a big reason why working class whties are leaving the Dem Party. The Dems openly disdain them.
>>68803528
Do you not apply for multiple jobs and customise your CV to the roles?
I have 5 different CVs with different bits of information added and admitted.
>>68803157
Literally anyone who goes to a good school, studies engineering, and isn't retarded can get a high paying job.
>>68803449
When was the data gathered? This is something that is increasingly losing relevancy due to the flood of college degrees in the market.
I really doubt that a person who graduated today will still see this upsurge, but yeah, trade schools can become a bit of a dead end
School already takes way too long to finish. It should last up to a year at most. If whatever you're doing takes longer to learn, you should be able to apprentice directly with an employer who needs someone like you.
Spending year after year at school not earning money isn't doing anybody good.
>>68800628
Unfortunately both are true. Most millennials are shitty terrible people who are lazy and decadent. On the other side though boomers sold the future for their own gain. Millennials were fucked out of the gate.
>>68803690
*omitted
>>68798338
I'm becoming an apprentice as we speak. Gunsmithing sounds fun and very rewarding.
Fuck you I'm not a retarded lib.
>>68803449
i did both, trade school to pay for my college down the line
>>68802532
>take 2 year engineering technology course at the local trade school hoping to become a technician/technologist
>try to find a summer job, only a handful of employers hiring summer students while there's 120 people in the program trying to find jobs, couldn't find anything
>spend the summer working unrelated labour job and getting safety/training certificates
>getting close to graduation trying to find a job, 5 years experience required, must have journeyman certificate, only hire 3rd/4th year apprentices, must already be a registered apprentice, ect...
>finally a few companies call me in for an interview
>price of oil falls, interviews are cancelled
>go back to labour job
>a year passes, 120 new graduates flood the market, who will give me a chance when I only have unrelated labour experience and there's fresh grads to hire?
Should've went to university. Most good jobs require a degree it doesn't matter in what, employers basically consider it an IQ test. Trade school you either work in what you study or you're fucked like me.
Daily reminder that you don't need a a 6 figure salary to have a family, a QT wife or a happy life in general.
Average household income USA around 50,000
I make 55,000 as a nurse and live by myself. I'm a king. Working in masters to make up to 75,000-120,000. So I can afford to support a stay at home wife and kids and afford to give them a life close to what u had. (Dad pulled in 175,000-200,000 a month, only highschool education. self employe He knew how to fix machines that no one knew how to. Missile manufacturing machines and such). Of course Obama fucked this up for him. Now his company went bankrupt and he only makes 120,000 a year. Still a lot, but not with -300,000 to pay.
>>68803449
>STEM degrees raises the bar so high people think ANY degree is better than no degree
I'd love a graph of Tradeschool vs the social science, arts and all the other non-STEM degrees
>>68802532
>Motorcycle tech
If there is a trade industry that is saturated it's the fucking transportation industry. I wish I tried to be a welder instead
>>68798338
>tfw pipe installer apprenticeship through school
>tfw paid while still going to school
>tfw debt basically non-existent
They hate making money. Oh, the whole liberal arts degree and "college experience" too.
Is there anything in the US similar to the Open University?
>>68803760
I guess the majority of engineering graduates are retarded then because the median starting wage is $60k. There aren't many 6 figure salary opportunities for new grads.
Power engineer, I napped for 8 hours of my last 12hr shift because I could.
You have to go to college right after high school or you're a colossal failure. Don't even consider the military or working or anything else, go straight to college.
>>68804261
Sort of? States and the Fed Government offer job training programs. These are for entry level jobs, things not that great but not that bad. You cant get, like, a college degree from them. But you can get certified in some lower-level tech type stuff.
>>68798338
so what are the criterias of being a millenial? Just the fucking age?
>>68804481
Are you doing an impersonation of the boomer generation?
It is pretty good.
>>68804525
I see, thanks for the info.
OU gives you a full on BA Hons.
>>68804481
Worst advice ever
>>68804626
>replying to bait
Kill yourself.
>>68804621
From 1980 to 2000 year of birth.
>>68804276
Those are the people who go to University of Phoenix and ITT Tech. Most of the people I know are working at Google/Microsoft/Boeing/Texas Instruments/Bechtel etc.
Idk but my neighbor was crying this morning because he locked his keys in his apartment
He's probably 21 like me fucking crazy
>>68803996
>you don't need to make six figures
>I'm on my way to make six figures
Where do you stupid assholes come from?
>>68798338
>old man promising free candy to literal children
why hasnt anyone called him out on this bullshit?
>>68804276
Is 60k bad? Nigger you can raise a family on that no problem. If you're a single man, what the fuck are you even going to do with that much money?
>>68798338
hue
I wish it was that easy to get an apprenticeship in Australia
>>68804815
I'm living like a king on 55k
1. Muriel Monochrome, with the powers of an art history degree and a terrible fashion sense. Beware her rosy cheeks!
2. Stacy "daddy's money" McGuile, with the power of a trust fund and paying to show her opinion. Beware her infinite pile of credit cards!
3. Dr. Francine Bowlcut-Witzhiemer, who is patiently waiting for the perfect moment to launch her world domination scheme. Beware her hand wringing of condemnation!
4 and 5. Shaggy and Scooby-Doo personified, capable of stacking anything between slices of bread and eating it whole. Beware their super human resistance to pot smoke!
>>68804910
Exactly.
They must have terrible money management.
Worse than Kanye
>>68805180
>spending all your income on status symbols
>not saving for retirement
This is why millennials are fucked.
>>68798488
Dude there are way more trade jobs than skilled people to fill them in the US. You can learn welding in a year, and make over 50k easy, and in my state thats upper middle class.
>>68799708
Lel I lost a finger at work a few months ago
didn't need it anyway. got some cash too
>>68805274
Top pip
>>68804910
Probably just a big city nigger mad that his 50x50 shed is 90% of his salary.
>>68802952
This. You only need a qualification/certificate to do electrics and gas in the UK. Everything else can be done by literally anyone with the know how. I do tiling for kitchens and bathrooms self employed and won't work for less than £150/day. I also know a plumber that earns 200-400 on a good day. He has no qualifications. Though i have to say there are easier ways to make money.
>>68805581
Just wait till Bernie fucks his brown star
>>68804713
Lmao, so i'm gonna get compared to those fucking retards just because of that criteria?
Shouldn't being a fucking leftist be a criteria too?
Most of the people here in e-europe wouldn't fit in the millenial tag, even tho the shills are attempting to erase the possibility of families teaching morals in their homes.
>>68800812
Sounds fun, reminds me of my job at UPS.
Actually it was terrible and my nipples got chafed in the summer. Still, it was cool because I got full-time benefits for part time work. That's medical, dental and vision FREE NIGGA. I could come in as late as I wanted too because we were so heavily unionized. I would have to strangle my supervisor and fuck his wife to get fired.
God I miss those days. NEET all day, package sorter at night, back to NEET.
>>68805699
I was thinking about doing tiling.
Is it an art form like plastering or more like a an exact science, just measure and everything slots together?
I ask because I tried plastering but I wasn't very good at it and was let go after a couple of months, it's really like an art form.
>>68799999
Quints for truth.
>>68802994
That's what I'm planning to do, but you basically have to make a web of lies about why there is a gaps in resume, and your lack of experience.
>>68803126
The only reason why people ever went to college is because they knew that college had major risks. I guarantee you there will be a decline us college enrollment in the west by the next generation because Millennials will warn their kids about the danger of student loans. Colleges will counter this by importing more foreigners.
>>68804720
>Those are the people who go to University of Phoenix and ITT Tech
Those people won't be making shit because they will be sacked with debt, and have the employment future of a HS dropout.
>>68798546
Boys are wieners today and will grow up as such. It also doesn't help that they are Berniebots. I imagine these are the kids who think they are intellectually superior than their fellow high schoolers because they "think differently".
america is a fucked up place looking down at "blue collar" workers but a lot of these jobs like electricians, pipe fitters, plumbers, ect are better pay than the white collar jobs every show you watch made by an american tv company always looks down on these people.
I remember being a kid being told to get a trade behind me then go to uni and study whatever I wanted an if i ever needed money I could fall back on my trade. Well as it turned out I was a good spark and now walk around all day on a building site getting paid stupid money to check other peoples work and a boss willing to pay for a course for me to become an electrical engineer, because he hates having engineers with no hands on experience.
>>68805864
It's for a private tax firm, so there won't be drastic amounts of stuff, just making sure the right shit goes to the right department, Literally easy mode
>>68804910
Read the chain of replies.
>>68801820
Anon claims you get a 6 figure salary right of college
>>68802676
Anon asserted a 6 figure starting salary is rare
>>68802805
Anon posts a single example
>>68802805
I remind him that is a rare example
>>68803760
Anon implies you are a retard if you can't get a high paying (I infer he means 6 figure salary because that is the subject) right out of college
>>68804276
Here I am not implying 60k is bad, but that the person I was replying is still incorrect in asserting that a 6 figure salary is feasible for most college grads.
>>68805308
>>68805581
Nigger, learn to read.
>>68805959
Do you have a grudge against your back?
>>68798338
Because trade schools are a God damn scam.
Business's should train the employees they hire, and then the employees should show some God damn loyalty and work for that business for many years.
Everybody makes some fucking money, stable families are formed, communities grow and the cycle continues.
>>68805864
>NEET all day, package sorter at night, back to NEET
Are you retarded
>>68806364
When you're in your early 30's an still in a minimum wage job, you will stop caring, believe me.
>>68798338
Their parents told them to go to school and become doctors/engineers/lawyers/etc.
Or, they told their kid that they're somehow special and should "follow their dreams". No one has electrician or welder as their dream.
We should do our system like Germany's, with the choice of school or vocational training.
>>68801740
Avoid plumbing. It stops being a job you enjoy after going through a crawlspace flooded with literal shit
19. I attended a trade school.
>>68802532
That's because trade schools are flooded with retards who go to the auto classes and the carpentry classes.
>>68806399
But they don't want to train their workers. They rather ship in some 3rd worlders and pay them pennies to suck corporate cock.
"Muh experience" and "Muh 30 qualifications" is bullshit, they just don't want to hire people.
>>68806232
Americans looking down on blue collar workers is a meme. Even if it wasn't, like you said, most of them make VERY good money. The opinion of pompous university students isn't worth a dime.
>>68806399
Any school that isn't complete garbage does just that with local apprenticeships. I'm sorry you never figured this out, anon.
>>68805959
fuck being a plasterer there all fucked after 10 years.
>>68798338
Because trade schools are usually physical work. It's obvious none of them did any physical work in their life.
>>68806179
>Millennials will warn their kids about the danger of student loans. Colleges will counter this by importing more foreigners.
Disagree. More online degrees become available and respected. College costs go down as the institutions are digitized and streamlined. Academic jobs become a thing of the past.
We are already seeing this trend.
>>68807346
Iv'e been to america a few times and was the only place I felt ashamed for being an electrician. Also new york is a shit hole why anyone would want to live there I don't know.
>>68798546
Nope just your average Bernie supporters
>>68798546
Gender is a social construct.
lmao why do the girls look more masculine than the boys
>>68798488
>implying most university students want to work
In the entire world, there are maybe 30 people who possess the ability to excel in English literature, yet it's the most popular major, especially among idiots who cannot spell.
>>68798546
Boipucci is rising. VOTE BERNIE, MAKE TRAPS REAL!
>>68808529
>Iv'e been to america a few times and was the only place I felt ashamed for being an electrician.
I can only speak for the south, but it's not the profession that people look down upon. It's this weird thing where the electrician is always very knowledgeable and well educated; but they are always the most redneck/whitetrash cousin fucking people you will ever meet
>>68801967
i know a guy that makes over 100k a year fixing pool pumps and heaters in florida. I also know a guy that makes over 100k a year doing HVAC in florida.
>>68808529
North east in general is a shit hole.
Is rather live in Louisiana
>>68808529
>Iv'e been to america a few times and was the only place I felt ashamed for being an electrician.
I have no idea why you'd feel that. From what I've seen 'electrician' is one of the most prestigious manual professions, compared to something like pipe fitter etc.
>Also new york is a shit hole why anyone would want to live there I don't know.
They like crime, high cost of living, and small living spaces. What else do you need?
>>68808642
Ever been to Denmark?
Oh... Wait...
>>68798338
>all those punchable faces
>>68805959
I've never tried plastering, though it's a skill i really need to acquire as tiling and plastering goes hand in hand. As long as you set you first row of tiles level and use spacers its childs play. It gets a little tricky on some renovation work as walls and floors are rarely flat and level. The biggest challenge to renovation tiling work imo is getting your wall or floor flat and level/plum and setting up the surface you're going to tile on. Quite a bit of carpentry involved. The tiling is piss as long as you are working on nice flat boarding and a level and flat floor.
>>68809206
NYC has a very low crime rate compared to most major cities in the USA.
>>68809442
>Comparing shit to garbage
Your point?
>>68798338
Its because those jobs actually require hard work. you will not be sitting in an air conditioned office. look at those 2 guys sitting in the back on the right. do you really think they will be able to handle a trade job? they look like they never picked up a tool in their life.
>>68803449
>be 24
>making 45-50k a year
>only have an associates
I can't wait to go back to school for nursing and double my pay for <1.5x the work of what I currently do.
Curious though, pol. How do I motivate an entitled millenial family member who refuses to apply herself? I only want the best for her but she's quickly approaching stagnation and is not going anywhere. She refuses to apply for internships because it might "interfere with my busy school schedule" which is 200 level gen Ed classes. She even turned down my mothers offer for an internship at the company where my mother is a hiring manager.
>>68798684
alot of trade school students are over 30 years old.
>>68798338
I interview a ton of millenials for fisheries technician jobs (i'm a supervisory district biologist for a large fish and game department) and if someone can't do basic engine work, weld, plumb, or do some type of electrical work, I just don't hire them. Kids today, fuck i feel old, think they can get a job in fisheries where you have to run boats and be part of a crew on the water with just some gay piece of paper from a university, if you can't work on an engine or weld or something like that, you don't need to be on a boat. I usually end up hiring old people who I know won't get themselves or other people killed.
>millenials don't do trade shit because it's grueling work at times and it's not some feel good "well you tried" type of venture
>>68799277
Agreed however it's worth noting that you shouldn't complain if you can't get a good job with good pay because there are things like trade schools. People think manual labor is beneath them in America
>>68810191
>How do I motivate an entitled millenial family member who refuses to apply herself?
>She refuses to apply for internships
>200 level gen Ed classes.
>She even turned down my mothers offer for an internship at the company where my mother is a hiring manager.
Jesus Christ, you don't.
>>68811005
This is my greatest fear Anon. She thinks she's going to get the perfect job right out of college with no experience and no idea of what she actually wants to do. Should I just let it go? There's no saving her.
more people live in cities
trades are less useful in cities because cities are business centers
>>68798488
>yuropoors never learn
My dumbass brother who got busted for dealing pills in felony quantities is at jobcorps right now and on his way to a $20/hr railcar mechanic job.
Womyn and nu-males (see Europeans) are such special snowflakes that they can't imagine an honest days work
>>68799277
Retarded as fuck
Compare a 40 year career in the trades to 4 years in college. Way more college educated people
>>68811415
>Should I just let it go?
No. She's family. Just be prepared for the worst.
>>68800571
>female electrician
wew lad. Now that's rare
>>68806514
I mean as in the NEET lifestyle my senpai.
>>68809351
thanks dark pisslord. I will keep that in mind.
I just want to avoid screeding .. because .. lazy. Fortunately there are specialised screeding companies out there in australia
I am 23 years old. I have a liberal arts degree and a job that pays $40k. There are jobs. Don't be a crybaby. Find work.
>>68810191
Make her move out and realise the value of a dollar. Or start charging her rent
>>68812532
She still lives with her parents. One parent is on disability and is one of those "I'll move to [ARBITRARY LOCATION] if trump is elected". I'm pretty sure that's where my cousin is getting all her shitty influence.
>>68800812
good on you m8. work hard, do a good job and they will notice. These days its hard to find people reliable to work for you, especially with low wage jobs. if you go above and beyond employers take notice.
>>68798338
Because they are lazy
>>68809046
>i know a guy that makes over 100k a year fixing pool pumps and heaters in florida. I also know a guy that makes over 100k a year doing HVAC in florida.
You responded to a post about construction worker wages with a comment about service worker earnings. Why?
Do you think that construction work and service work are the same thing?
>>68810308
source? Or are you just pulling this out of your ass? http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/81-004-x/2010005/article/11386-eng.htm (college in canada is trade school for the us.)
>>68813376
No but they are both skilled trades.
>>68802775
This. I work as a specialized nurse and while my pay is shit i swim in pussy and everyone wants to hire you just because you're male.
Easy as shit to get a job anywhere. But you gotta be able to handle the shitty part of the job and handle the females you're working with because 90% of the time you will be the only male on shift and anyone who has worked as only male in female dominated workplace knows what i'm talking about.
>>68813575
When i went to trade school i was the second youngest in my class at 21 years old. most of the guys were over 30 years old. And also Just by walking around the school and seeing other classes you saw alot of older people compared to Universities. We did have a few high school kids that went to the school because the high school nearby let you take trade classes your senior year for free but not as many as you would expect took advantage of that.
Millennial anthem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXRviuL6vMY
>>68798684
/thread
Most of my friends went through trade school.
>>68798338
I've worked jobs, while going through school, that were pretty close to a trade job without actually being a trade job.
The superiority attitude that tradies say that college students have is reciprocated by the trade people, and I dont think they realize it. They expect new hires to already know how to use a wide range of tools, know how to do various tasks, and to have what they think is 'common sense' about a lot of things. One place even expected me to bring my own tools, without reimbursement. See this post >>68810853, this attitude from what I have seen is pretty common.
As if a student fresh out of college or high school from either the suburbs or the city are going to know any of these things. I doubt a lot of rural kids are either. Believe me, the trade people think that millenials are just as stupid, if not stupider than college millenials think that non-college educated people are (most dont even have this attitude btw). A college education is not going to show a student how to work a circular saw or repair electrical wiring. Its not going to condition a student for 10 hours of labor work 6 days a week. Then they have the gall to lecture us on hard work or call us lazy.
This is before the other judgemental things that they point towards millenials, like thinking we are all emasculated faggots who cant find their dicks. I'm not sure what they are expecting and I dont think they do either. They just want to be left alone with their other old comrades and do things the way they have always been done without being displaced by millenials. Because, what are they going to do? Break into the tech field? Move into the intellectual disciplines? Millenials have pretty solid footing in those fields. No, there is another problem and its called false expectation.
>>68814256
>>68813575
And i also wan to make appoint that millenials bitch about free education yet not that many took advantage of a free trade school education in high school.
>>68798338
Because they are lied too through High School that you can be successful if you go to University. You're told that a bachelors degree will literally double to triple you average income.
Turns out, its bullshit just like most of what they tell ya in HS. Kind of wish I had find out about trade school sooner, but I'm so close to graduation I might as well finish.
>>68814464
Its pretty standard in trade jobs to have your own set of tools, or at least the basic ones.
>go to trade school
>learn how to operate cnc, take blueprint reading. learn setup
>Try to find job
>Find job
>start pay $15 an hour
>Have to work literally 10 years to get moved up to anywhere near 20
>Also have to work grave shift, since all machinists who are new to the company.
>Work graveyard shift for 3 years
>Get sacked because of downsize
>Find another machinist job that pays $17 an hours
>Put in nightshift again
vs
driving for uber.
Right now I drive every 5 days a week, get paid around 5 to 6 on average a week. Beats getting paid a hundred extra and having to deal with the stress and bullshits of job life. IMO this is how a job should be, you work then you go home and enjoy life. This "Let me learn a trade so it becomes my life" is gay as fuck stupid meme created by employers to use your ass.
>>68814915
Its this same attitude that prevents new hires from easily taking up the trades.
I'll say it again, I think the trade people dont want millenials as well as the majority of millenials not wanting to work trades.
>>68798812
I guarantee you most people in trade school are white
>>68815658
Pretty much every time the company will supply you with the expensive tools. you just need basic ones like pliers, nut drivers, wrenches, and wire strippers.
>>68799999
People really underestimate how much money there is to be made with shit like that. A highly skilled journeyman electrician can get $80/hr. A night shift master plumber can make $150/hr. Shits ridiculous.
>>68815913
when i was in trade school it was an even number of white and hispanic as the two largest groups. there were also a good amount of blacks. I think i only saw 1 asian though. But i guess that depends where you live.
>>68804445
Lol, I had a little sleep for an hour on top of an air handler. Not that any of these plebs know the first fucking thing about air handlers.
>>68798338
What trades are in demand
>>68816832
that sounds uncomfortable as fuck.
>>68816885
depends on where you live. generally service type trades like pluming, electric, and HVAC are a better bet than the construction industry
>>68817349
california. Construction is full of illegals who work for less but, theres trucker jobs and weilding school near by.
>>68798338
Well tell me what trade is the best and maybe I'll consider since I'm already in college and wouldn't mind knowing a useful trade that can apply to my daily life.
I worked in a sort of "internship" styled job for 400$, 6 months from home and a physical job from 8 to 5 onboard a fucking ship.I respect trade people 10x more than some fucking college sociology or language major,
Fuck this generation tho, entitled shits even here, most of them look down upon trade jobs and skills. It will be a nice market in 10-20 years, service will be expensive
>>68814256
So instead of actually looking it up you use anecdotal evidence. Classic americuck. But I do also think the people who are want free education will waste it on some liberal arts degree.>>68814754
Just get an MBA from a top 25 school. Guaranteed payoff, not that hard.
>>68818416
sauce?
DURRRRRRRRRRRR
1984 not a millennial fuck you.
Have some fan fic
>>68820882
>Kinsey Sex Fiction
>>>68820028 →
>>>68820093 →
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>You have never been happier.
>I wrote this In the car chase thread and it archived. I worked too hard for no one to see this.
