http://www.kyivpost.com/article/content/ukraine/defense-ministry-demobilization-starts-in-ukraine-383805.html
>Ukrops literally can't pay for their own troops
>45 000 men will be returned home by June this year
>Hasn't made single successful push on Donetsk in months
So Russia wins? In June, Donetsk will start a counter offensive, take back their land and start working on the country itself and since most of Ukraine's infrastructure is there, Donetsk will be richer than Ukraine in less than 5 years. Even the US can't help them anymore
>>69509824
Good
No more kosher interest inflicting Novorossiya
>>69509824
>Even the US can't help them anymore
If the US wanted Ukraine, the US would have Ukraine.
Weather it be through proxy war or straight up telling Russia to pack their bags and get the fuck out or risk a potential conflict.
Ukraine is a "literally who" country, provides no gain, no support, they partially dug their own grave, even if the US did get Ukraine, what would our government do with it? Nothing, because outside of a few raw resources Ukraine is not worth the shit clay it sits on.
Fucking Syria is worth more than Ukraine for Gods sakes.
>>69510362
US and Canada has been.training, helping and arming Ukraine for one and a half years now, but to no avail.US wants Ukraine but it can't have it
>no donetsk drug mule whipping videos
I am disappoint.
>>69510362
The US did want Ukraine, the CIA has been at the root of Ukrainian "nationalism" since Kruschev.
I don't say literally a lot, but the US literally put all their time and energy (without the use of military abilities) to try and win over Ukraine.
>>69509824
>>Hasn't made single successful push on Donetsk in months
Isnt there a ceasefire?
>>69510908
Technically,yeah,there is,practically - both sides don't give a shit about the ceasefire.
>>69510552
The US has barely had shit to do with Ukraine for months now, you're talking 2014/2015 m8.
If the US truly wanted Ukraine there would be Abrams and soldiers in Ukraine. There is a difference between destabilizing something and "wanting" something.
>>69510812
>The US did want Ukraine
No, it didn't, the US wanted Ukraine to assist and give reason to furth fuck over Russia with this whole oil issue what is going on now, like i said the US has steadily been pulling support from Ukraine for literally months now, Ukraine was only fuel for the fire, now that fire is dying down, and the US is basically wiping its hands with Ukraine. Like i said if the US wanted Ukraine, we would have US soldiers in Ukraine.
Don't think for a minute congress couldn't get support to "defend" such a "innocent" target being oppressed by da evil rhussians.
It was all a game, a game Russia also played into.
>>69510362
>If the US wanted Ukraine, the US would have Ukraine.
APRIL FOOLS!
>>69509824
And now we know why Russia pulled out of Syria.
>>69511199
Your country is so pathetic it probably could not defend itself even if it needed too.
Stay to smoking weed and doing MDMA there Sven, it suits you better.
>>69511351
Topkek. You are hilarious, thanks, this made my day. Sleep tight mr. Trump, enjoy your Obamacare.
>>69509824
Ukraine after Soyuz was okay. Not a place you would move to but not what it became. It was developing.
Then the World Bank inserted Timoshenko. Official unemployment rate: half. Real unemoyment: does it matter at that point? Developing economy with respectable industrial capacity: gone overnight.
An interegnum of order and attempted repair, smashed by Euromaidan and a second World Bank Putsch.
Now Ukraine is destroyed, divided and waiting to be reconquered.
How many more countries should die before we dismantle the World Bank?
>>69510362
Syria is worth anything because of one Russian port.
Ukraine houses the Russian navy.
So.
>>69511177
>if the US wanted Ukraine, we would have US soldiers in Ukraine.
there already are...they;re a small group training the ukrainian army.
>the US wanted ukraine to fuck with russia
yea, that's still wanting it
You're not gonna pull off a checkmate without taking any chess pieces.
>>69511855
Syria is worth a lot more in the grand scheme of things given the Middle Eastern game the US has been playing since the late 80's m80.
Ukraine is worth, literally, nothing, at all, to US interest or to an "alliance" between the two countries.
>>69512033
>>if the US wanted Ukraine, we would have US soldiers in Ukraine.
there already are...they;re a small group training the ukrainian army.
So you're saying you think the US wanted the Iraqi government to be competent enough to defend itself? Or the Afghans? You have no clue what you're talking about lol.
What you think the US is just going to waltz into Ukraine, park some pickups and say "ya know we have no real business here so we're just going to watch :)".
Doesn't work like that, never has, never will.
What chess pieces has the US used lol? In your own opinion, i'm legitimately curious to know.
Because from what i understand, the US has already economically hurt Russia quite a bit, no, nothing they can't recover from obviously, but the US has assisted in weakening the Russian economy that much is very clear.
How much money do you think it is costing Russia to conduct these operations? Why do you think they have also been steadily pulling out of Syria as of the last month? Money.
>>69511855
>Ukraine houses the Russian Navy
Not Ukraine anymore,fampai :^)
>>69511351
>Sven
ofc, an amerifat doesn't know the difference between sweden and nl
>>69512033
The US opened up Russia to two fronts basically, both economically draining on top of them already having issues because of the fucked oil prices.
They've literally had to cut production of their stealth aircraft development because they're getting so fucking screwed when it comes to money. Russia is not like the US economically, remember that.
>>69512893
>Implying Americans give a single shit about either one of the countries, or what the fuck ever you think your "country" is.
Bet your power flickered 3 times in the last 40 minutes.
Well did anyone really expect anything else?
it's fucking ukraine
>>69513107
The shortbus of Eastern Europe.
>>69512633
>comparing one country's course of infiltration with raghead skirmishes
yea no, me thinks the burger doth protest too much
>What you think the US is just going to waltz into Ukraine, park some pickups and say "ya know we have no real business here so we're just going to watch :)".
You dumb nigger that's exactly what they did. How familiar are you with the American "NGO" situation in eastern europe? How about illegal abetting in conspiracy of state treason? Nuland cookies?
My guess is no you're not familiar with any of that. You're just a fat fuck couch general who spent at most 3 months on plebbit talking about events that transpired 3 years ago which precede your comprehension of where Ukraine even is on the map.
>How much money do you think it is costing Russia to conduct these operations? Why do you think they have also been steadily pulling out of Syria as of the last month? Money.
You'd be surprise how efficient a ruski's military budget is. It cost Russia nothing to seize Crimea before it went to shit.
>Mar. 18, 2015 15:03
Ukraine now has an army of 270 000 people, so Russia can BTFO
Go Ukraine, kill the beast, once and for good
>>69512903
Seriously man what the actual fuck are you even going on about?
>End of a 6 month pledge of support somehow translates to insufficient funds
No, Russia is not like the US because unlike the US, it works for their nation's interests, and knows when to get the fuck out.
>>69510552
Does your opinion on this matter originate from the fact that Estonia is an American protectorate?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kziFajUenng
Spetsnaz WINS
>>69509824
>ukraine
no such thing
