When the Brexit happens, what's going to happen to this place? We don't want it and from what I gather, the English don't want it.
>>68752518
Well the Scots can have it then.
>>68752518
Probably potato famine and car bombs as usual
>>68752518
we want it
>>68752518
IF the Brexit happens
>>68752576
Aren't they just a tax-hike for you guys? I mean you have to support them.
Northern Ireland earned their place in the UK by showing their sacrifice on the Somme in the name of the 36th Ulster Division
Also the Inniskilling fusiliers who put down your shitty rising 100 years ago lol
>>68753083
I wonder how long it will be before they're overun with muslims.
>>68752518
literally no one cares that's how irrelevant it is
the whole island should just get scuttled and desu
>>68752518
There was support that in the event of a Brexit, we would try to create an similar open borders agreement with Australia, NZ, and Canada.
https://panampost.com/panam-staff/2015/03/18/ngo-proposes-open-borders-between-commonwealth-nations/
I'd bet that with the amount of Irish families living in the UK, we could also create popular support for a similar deal with Ireland. The government might welcome it, as it could cushion the blow to the workforce leaving the EU would create.
Maybe in an ideal world, we could also try to get all the White folk in South Africa permission to settle here, since many of them have British ancestry anyways.
>>68753083
>Northern Ireland earned their place in the UK by showing their sacrifice on the Somme in the name of the 36th Ulster Division
Orange faggot detected.
I really wish Ireland would take you off our hands.
>>68753525
t. irish republican pretending to be mainlander
Embarrassing post Eoin, maybe you should be less blatant next time
>>68753083
Lots of Irish fought in the British army during ww1. "Shitty rising" resulted in a country with no real fighting force, subjugated for hundreds of years by a foreign invader winning their independence. Nothing shitty about it.
>>68754387
I know about the Irish volunteers, and that they're sadly completely misrepresented as being traitors to the republic.
I referred to the rising as shitty because of how quickly it was crushed. What happened afterwards was completely different though
>>68753631
I'm an Englishman, I could post proof if you really wanted.
You're both foreigners to be, Northern Irish and Irish
Personally I prefer the Irish, they are far less obnoxious that you lot.
I hope we support them because Ireland's had enough trouble.
Also they're a part of this country's union and it's our duty to ensure their stability.
>>68755071
>Also they're a part of this country's union and it's our duty to ensure their stability
Some Scottish faggots who ethnically cleansed part of Ireland from the natives deserves English support because 'muh union'
>>68752518
>>68753525
>>68754903
>>68755071
Mainlander here.
Definitely support NI in the Union. If you identify as a part of the UK, we will defend that.
>tfw born in armagh to anglo-irish catholic family
>tfw fierce unionist
>tfw predecesors were in the National Volunteers and 16th Irish and later shot at anti-treaty communists
>tfw union doesn't even want ulster
>tfw ulster is the only part of the UK that is still almost homogenously white
>tfw it will soon be the United Kingdom of Northern Ireland
>tfw orangemen and papists will stand side by side fighting against the brown tide coming from the republic and in boats from liverpool
>tfw peace will finally reign in ulster
>>68755359
>Definitely support NI in the Union
Why, they are foreign scrounging faggots, The cost of subsidising them is almost as much as the foreign aid bill.
We want it
>Northern Ireland
>not part of Ireland
Doesn't make sense to me senpai. Sounds like UK just cucked Ireland out of a chunk of their land and pretend like it's normal.
>>68755477
But the DUP my man
>>68755522
Why do you want it, why do you have loyalty specifically to County Derry, but not Cavan for example?
>>68755631
What about them?
>>68755642
What? I want NI to stay because we fought the troubles to keep it, and to give it up would cause massive bloodshed, and be giving up on over a million British citizens. Not to even mention it's the best part of the UK in terms of law, demographics and social attitudes.
>>68755709
Best party in the UK
>>68755599
Yep, they did.
>>68755895
Shut up, taig
mfw this is an actual thing
BUILD A WALL
>>68755599
The people in Northern Ireland wished to, democratically, remain a part of the United Kingdom. Only a dumb fuck IRA sympathiser would be stupid enough to challenge that.
>>68755599
Lel that's pretty much what happened.
>>68756274
Ireland is better off uncucked by the ninny Royal family you English take pride in licking the boots of. I visited both. The Irish are more based then you Mohammeds.
>Brexit.
>EU falls apart; immigration & economy
>UK strong.
>Ireland is all like; shit, maybe Britbongs ain't that bad, they bailed us out a few times. No hard feelings.
>Briton & Ireland et. all union.
Celtic & Anglos BFFs.
>>68756684
Ireland is empty, son.
Most Irish are in LOndon or Liverpool.
Mah' heritage.
Ethnically Northern Ireland is pretty similar to Scotland due to the plantation etc, and yes before anyone asks I do think having been here for a few centuries lends legitimacy to the claim. Furthermore, politics here are so far detached and dissimilar to the south that they're simply not reconcilable these days. I can see why an outsider would view the current situation as illogical, and it's a nice idea to unite north and south, but it's just not that realistic.
>>68756713
>implying that the UK wasnt the reason the EU was being held back in the first place. Personally everyone might be better off if you guys left.
>>68756910
>Held back
UK was EU's fail safe.
>America
>>68753083
>He forgot about the Irish division that sacrificed their lives at the Somme
>>68756910
Learn to greentext properly.
There is more cultural pride in NI than any other nation in the British isles, it has managed to surpass England in terms of British pride. That is why British patriots like Enoch Powell ended up in Ulster.
Funny enough the same man disliked Americans for doing exactly what you're doing; pretending to know about foreign affairs.
Yet the American right-wing still worship him. Kek
>>68756910
1/10
>>68752594
silly uninformed bogan
>>68756060
What a fucking faggot you are, why call him a taig?
You're so obviously Northern Irish yourself, you don't give a shit about us on the mainland, and we don't give a shit about you.
>you will see a united Ireland in your lifetime
Who hyped for brexit?
>>68752562
Scotland liberal wieners wouldn't know what to do with NI.
>>68753083
Those who made the sacrifice earned their place in the Union, loyalists today have not.
What do you contribute?
You and your ilk are a drain on precious resources.
You are a psychopathic partner who demands respect with the threat of violence if it is not delivered.
So take you flag and your pathetic Orange men and join the republic, you are no longer welcome.
>>68757683
I think Gerry and Martin are too busy sucking Ahmed's cock to give a shit about a united Ireland right now
>>68757683
>gets freedom after generations of struggle
>votes away sovereignty to the EU immediately after.
NORN IRON WILL NOT BE KEKED IN SUCH A MANNER.
>>68755460
Muh Heritage!
***masturbates furiously**
You abandoned shipped kangaroo fucker.
>>68757638
I'm English senpai, want proof?
>>68757924
Spoken like a true IRA apologist, it's embarrassing to say I live in the same country as the likes of you.
>>68757683
Go fuck yourself. We have an IRA related terrorist attack every day. You are fucking delusional if you think our hatred of RoI is going to dissipate any time soon.
Loyalists are hard men
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeDcqvFz3l4
Are loyalists the niggers of Europe?
>Oh no they took down the Union Jack for a bit
>Better chimp out
Unionists are alright though
>>68752518
Ulster is English you shamrock sucking cucks
>>68758376
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35896175
Yesterday's terror incident. Today's is currently in progress:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-35898972
Get the fuck out of the British Isles. You fuckers belong in the Middle East along with the rest of your terrorist friends.
>>68758390
>Only 6 out 9 counties are in NI
>Guess that means all of Ulster is British
Loyalists not even once
>>68758591
But I'm not in the British Isles. I'm in Ireland :^)
>>68758591
Remember when England defeated china?
Now you can't even settle a rabble of bog jumping green niggers
>>68758376
Loyalists and republicans are both monkeys, throwing rocks at each other for the sake of nothing. Both disgrace unionists and nationalists and skewer their name.
>>68758784
It has a lot to do with the Labour scumbags stopping any attempt to remove terrorists from this island.
Nothing will happen to it. It will remain British and it will prosper. There's a lot of scaremongering about what will happen to NI - like all things, nothing. Unionists in NI didn't fight to remain apart of the Union so as to be sold down the river.
>>68758376
Are separatists the niggers of Europe?
>Unionists want to remain apart of the Union
>proceed on a terror campaign for the next 50 years against them
Catholics are alright though.
>>68752518
Give it to the refugees
Then bomb it
>>68758591
Isn't East Belfast loyalist territory?
>>68758628
All of Ulster and all of Ireland is English. You dumb cat lickers never actually owned anything. It was just such a shit hole swamp nobody in england really wanted to go there and slaughter a few upjumped donkeys.
>>68758764
whoops
>>68755477
You could say the same of the Falklands but it's all about power and influence. If it was just money, as a Londoner, I would advocate London becoming a city state (we're the only net contributors to HMT, after all...).
united ireland is inevitable. check the demographics
>>68758979
>Australia thinks that Ireland is a shithole
>Australia
L M A O
M
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>>68752518
You know NI is more anti EU than Scotland and Wales? They'll stay.
>>68758934
Guess who is stirring shit up? It's always the terrorists.
BBC always refuses to comment on the affiliation of the 365 incidents a year then it always turns out to be IRA related in the end.
>>68759040
Top kek
>>68752820
> doesn't owning things cost money?
>>68759040
>He doesn't realize the term British Isles was made up by British politicians to put a claim on Ireland
>>68759111
Trips of truth
Praise Kek
>>68759116
We live like kings here, wealthy and chill. Are you still in potato famine?
>>68758232
> I live in the same country
and you are no longer welcome, you are a burden, a bunch of malcontents and the enemy within.
>IRA apologist
When did I claim to support the IRA?
You resort to slander because I presented you with the unvarnished truth and you were unable to answer, so the question remains.
What do you contribute to the Union apart from a huge tax bill?
>>68758232
Ignore him. True Brits respect Norn Ireland.
>>68759111
Yeah, the demographics say that Catholics are rapidly voting towards unionist parties as opposed to the socialist creeps in Sinn Fein. Good for them desu
>>68759111
That's what your lot has been saying for the past hundred years. Maybe you don't understand what inevitable means.
Protestants have never been in the majority. Doesn't mean they'll ever allow it to happen. I know you paddies think more population = more strength, but that's not always the case.
>>68759339
Fucking weeb
>>68759263
Ah nah we're not still in a potato famine but thanks for asking though
>>68759282
>avatarfags as Maggie Thatcher
>values wealth over national pride
Brilliantly executed satire
>>68759391
If it get's tough again I can give you a job hauling supplies around. My donkey would like the break and really, he is a bit expensive.
>>68759282
So do the Falklands, Maggie.
This is not a debate about money. Otherwise London should succeed.
>>68759456
Thatcher: Brilliant example for why female leaders should be raped and deported to Syria.
>>68759533
Ah sure I'll give you a ring about it :^)
I was passing by an antique shop and saw an 1895 framed map of Ireland for $40.
Should I buy it? I love the map and it goes well with my house's style, but I have nothing to do with Ireland so it seems a little weird for me to have a map of Ireland.
>>68759282
Live in America, where support for the IRA is strong. On st patrick's day this year the local police came out in the middle of the night and played a bagpipe accompaniement to some modern IRA tune about refusing to turn over their bombs and guns until Ireland is united for good.
What you fags going to do when your brexit displeases the great american overlord and american irish nationalists are freed up to donate bombs and guns to their ideological proxies again?
>>68759749
If you like the look of it might as well.
>>68752518
We expand our Union to all of Ireland. It solves every problem.
Why the fuck are you under the impression the partition of Ireland is in any way affected by Brexit? Are you retarded?
>>68752518
When Brexit happens (if there is no cheating by the EU) what are the chances Scotland and northern Ireland or others will ask to move out?
>>68752518
Then you guys and your country can fuck off into oblivion while England rises to the heavens
DEUS VULT
>>68759782
Then there'll be another Boston bombing hopefully. After all, you deserve at least 5 more bombs.
>>68759942
For NI:0. Scotcucks, idk
maybe when they stop paying welfare here all the scumbags are going to starve and NORN EIRE can rise again
>>68759942
Scotland very likely
>>68756296
>an invasion, plantation and gerrymandering are democratic
I don't particularly care about being a Republican anymore (thanks to their gay vote) but you'd be a fool to pretend there was anything democratic in the creation of Norn.
>>68759942
No chance for NI. Scotcucks might ask and then vote to stay again.
>>68759782
>People in the US actually support the IRA
Jesus Christ they are retarded
>>68759073
>I would advocate London becoming a city state
You would be missed about as much as Northern Ireland
>>68759571
The Falklands has untapped mineral resources, London is the hub for Europe's financial markets
This is all about money, nationalistic principles are window dressing for the uneducated and easily forgotten when there is discord.
Examine the loyalist protests during 1985 and the threats made to Security forces during Drumcree
Their patriotism is paper thin.
>>68760026
>three dead a couple dozen injured and one of the best happenings /pol/ has ever seen
>In exchange for another decade of english expansionist butthurt fighting the endless tide of republican piss
I'll take it.
>>68759782
Stop LARPing, you muh heritage faggot. Nobody wants another round of The Troubles.
>>68760161
The way in which the border was made was very much one-sided, but that was hardly the fault of the unionist citizens. There would be a British unionist state in Ireland regardless of how northern Ireland would be drawn out.
>>68760195
Its the only kind of political terrorism we are allowed to support without getting put on a watch list. The amount of law enforcement who unironically love the idea of an insurgent war in Ireland is actually pretty lulzy.
Honest question, do you still want a united Ireland despite disliking the IRA and any of its offshoots? If not, why not? Are you a catholic who is opposed to increasing the number of protestant citizens?
>>68756296
Swedes and Germans wants more immigrants. It doesn't make it right.
Picts and gaels raped and pillaged the bretons for hundreds of years before being saved by the anglo-saxons. They're not helpless victims of english imperialism, just sore losers. Bend the knee potato bitches.
>>68760237
Sinn Fein lost a seat in the last election. Terrorists got BTFO.
>>68760271
lol tell it to the american police, I didn't go out there and salute a foreign flag. Just stating the facts. If you think the financial support for terrorism in Northern Ireland has stopped for any reason other than the the security state desiring it to be so for the time being you have another thing coming.
>>68760387
Isn't sinn fein the jews who capitulated to churchill and screwed over Irish Rommel?
>>68752576
Jesus Christ, who the fuck drew arms on them? THEY AREN'T FUCKING SUPPOSED TO HAVE ARMS!
>>68760320
>There would be a British-Unionist state regardless
Unless they didn't invade or plant the Scots or took the "democratic vote" as simply a vote of the people of Ireland instead of gerrymandered county voting. You and I both know that Norn is practically illegitimate and should never have existed. Having said that, I love this shithole and am glad we're separate from the gay Marxists south of the border. I only wish we were also separate from the gay pakis on the mainland too.
>>68760368
So you'd honestly compare Scots-Irish - who are perfectly compatible with Irish culture and were for many years - to be the same as Muslim migrants?
>>68760420
What did I just tell you about LARPing, you fat cunt?
>>68759782
t. Ahmed McPaddy Tyrone Laquessa
1/24215th paddy genes.
>>68760490
Sinn Fein is the political wing of the IRA. Unionists took their seat.
England used to own half the world; now can't even keep their own islands together. Sad!
>>68759782
NORAID was a CIA front supplying arms to the IRA and it's splinter groups during the 70's and 80's.
The irony of 9/11 Bush stating that America would stand up to Terrorists was hilarious.
>>68760349
I do want a united Ireland but I would like it to be by democratic vote. I only like the IRA in the 1920s who actually fought for independence rather than just bombing civilians like the PIRA and the unionist equivalent the UVF. I don't really mind protestants as long they are not like Loyalists.
And a lot of nationalists are Protestant and a lot of Unionists are Catholic. It is a very grey conflict where you can see each others reasoning for their stance. I mean one of Irelands heroes was a Protestant. He fought for Irish freedom and tried to get France to liberate Ireland. Wolf Tone was a cool guy.
>>68759782
Plastic paddies are pathetic
>>68760680
muh conspiracy
>>68760654
I wonder when Sinn Fein will wake up and realise Norn isn't a marxist lefty shithole. It's a conservative, right wing shithole across the board. Catholics don't want gay marriage. Catholics don't want pakis in. They're fucking nationalists for fuck sake. They want the shit the DUP offers but with a Nationalist tint. That's why they're losing so many Catholics to unionist parties.
>>68760671
You can barely hold a majority in your own country, also sad
>>68760790
Yankees have no heritage, they have to worship something.
>>68760890
That's not a conspiracy lad. That's a reality. The federal judges stopped them giving money to the ra for all of a few years before letting them finance the ra anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTJQkhWZekI&ab_channel=JaiReilly
>>68760749
Mate, don't know how to tell you this, but the old IRA operated in the exact same manner as the PIRA. They forced hundreds of protestants out of Ireland for simply being protestant and even murdered many protestant children and teenagers (see dunmanway killings).
They are both interchangeable; they had the same goal and used the same methods of fear to achieve them.
>>68760680
You think I don't know that m8? Your butthurtcountrymen itt seem to think I'm some american IRA lover just because I am stating some basic facts about recent history.
Fun fact: one of New York State's senators publicly acknowledged financially supporting the modern IRA and even fought to keep the IRA off the US' official list of terrorist organizations.
>>68760749
Supposing that after a brexit Scottland also held a successful referendum to be emancipated from the UK, wouldn't it be very difficult for NI to remain a part of it? The english army would have no choice but to violate either the republic of Ireland's territorial waters or scottish territorial waters just to continue supplying local unionist supporters in the event of another conflict.
I would agree with you that a democratic process for entering is the best option, but given your history the negotiations would be akin to our northern and southern states trying to unite under a constitution. A constitutional congress was necessary because of how complex the competing interests of the parties seeking to unite with one another were.
You would probably need a similar congress where representatives of the south and north negotiated the conditions under which they would accept a legally limited unification to protect their quasi-sovereign interest.
>>68752518
It's part of the UK.
>>68761331
>the only way of possibly reaching northern ireland is via Scotland
Why are you people so stupid
>>68760890
>two jurors later said they had been convinced that the C.I.A. had been involved
http://www.nytimes.com/1982/11/06/nyregion/5-are-acquitted-in-brooklyn-of-plot-to-run-guns-to-ira.html
>>68752518
That's up for the Northern Irelanders to decide.
I wouldn't say Britain doesn't want them, I've never heard this.
They can have independence if they want.
Why doesn't each individual province of Northern Ireland just hold a referendum to decide whether it stays with Britain or joins the Republic, then divide the region according to the results.
Why is this so difficult?
>>68761441
Lol retard once Scottland has territorial waters, the North Channel will literally be foreign waters for britain. Supposing a naval embargo, how exactly do you propose they do it besides flying EVERYTHING into the country from now on? Sailing out into the atlantic for a long run around ireland?
>>68761585
Look at a map
>>68761584
Gerrymandering and inevitable terrorist violence when things don't go one way or another for the respective sectarians involved.
Ireland has to be politically united eventually bruv, a referendum would only endanger the self-determination of the pro-british natives of Northern Ireland going forward.
What they need is a 3/5ths compromise.
>>68761585
What is the Isle of Man?
>>68761584
Many people move to different county's everyday for work. A lot of Belfast jobs would be lost for example.
>>68761584
We have a free movement deal with RoI. They will just swarm across the border for the referendum to swing each state one by one.
>>68760195
There is always going to be strife.
It is hard not to feel nostalgia of the times when terrorists actually personified a political struggle. Be it the IRA, ETA or the Baader-Meinhof.
>>68761585
>Lol retard once Scottland has territorial waters
I.e never
>>68761322
I know that but the cause then was more just I guess as the Irish were treated pretty terribly by the British like when the British army had done week long shelling of Dublin and the executions of the IRB rebels in the Easter Rising. I know they did some bad stuff but they truly believed in what they were fighting for back then.
Even the PIRA was kind of justified in their attacks due to the Catholics in NI were being horrible discriminated by the NI government.
>>68761585
There he goes again
>>68761584
Because then you have tricky situations like the capital city of Northern Ireland likely voting to become Irish and then what's left of the country has no capital city. Also, the huns in areas that go Irish, will fucking riot. And with The Troubles fresh in everyone's minds, nobody wants to deal with that shit again.
>>68761796
You know what say what you can about the IRA but you got to admit they got some good songs written about them
>>68761685
no u. the area circled in red shows where naval sovereignty conflict will become inevitable.
>>68761894
Catholic discrimination wasn't quite so "horrible" - there was unreasonable gerrymandering, but that would've been sorted out by NICRA in parallel to the civil rights gains in America. Realistically, the PIRA just set back catholic rights if anything.
>>68755460
The second siege of Derry will be fought when catholics and protestants put aside their differences and try to resist the forces of the great English caliphate.
>>68752518
I don't get the question. The Brexit is not about dissolving the UK.
>>68761894
The reality is that all insurgent warfare will involve what we call 'terrorism' today.
Thousands fled the US immediately after its formation because any sort of loyalist leanings made life in the former-colonies impossible.
>>68762052
And who do you think will win? the state that currently doesn't exist or the UK?
>>68762052
The Isle of Mann and Northern Ireland will provide the rest of the UK with territorial waters.
>>68762052
>american education
>>68762247
But the IRA didn't just kill people on the basis on if they were loyalists or not. They treated protestant Irishmen as traitors.
>>68757924
is this woman like bad or ok? the tv got it all ways, this is england, shit movie had a few references to her, falklands.
>>68752518
It's ours m8. It comes with us.
>>68762280
The states that get funding from the US.
Since US irish-nationalist memers almost single handedly financed the troubles of the 1980s, an opportunity for the US to gain even more favorable diplomatic conditions with the newly nationalized territories means that our government will tacitly permit pro-IRA americans to violate laws against financing terrorism internationally until the English decide it isn't worth dragging the turmoil back home with bombs going off in London from sectarians in a two-front civil war, and some kind of compromise allowing northern Ireland to join Ireland in a federated union a la the US circa 1787 will be arrived at.
>>68761982
OH MY ARMALITE RIFLE
USE IT EVERYDAY
OH ARMALITE RIFLE
POLICE AND IRA
>>68762162
Ah mate the police were less likely to help Catholics, the Protestants were given priority over Catholics in council houses and you, there was the UVF as well. The gerrymandering was very bad since it basically shat on democracy. Really the Catholics in NI who stayed there are heroes especially those who stayed in Belfast.
Someday we will have to reunite the Island.
The Protestant minority are becoming so inbred.
>>68762468
You think the first generation of americans were particularly selective about who they discriminated against for being 'loyalist'? I'm talking hundreds of thousands fleeing the 13 colonies into the Caribbean.
Freedom aint free bruh
>>68762343
Obviously that would be the UK's position, but the point I am making is the industrial armament of North Ireland would have to be shipped from and based out of England, which will logistically speaking have its territorial waters isolated by the territorial waters of a new nation and the existing boundaries of the republic of Ireland.
The tenuous and non-intuitive nature of such a scenario is what I am saying will inflame another insurgent war in Northern Ireland, with the added difficulty of trying to ferry honest-to-god british soldiers in for an occupation as they did in the 80s across waters that no longer belong to the UK.
>>68761982
This patrick's day I heard some ISIS-tier IRA songs that were fucking hilarious man, but I didn't google any of the lyrics. Can you sauce some? Love that kind of over-the-top sectarian anthem.
>>68759876
I'd be up for it, but you have to sort out London and a few other major cities first.
>>68762222
Good post.
>>68762468
Yeah, from what I hear, the IRA loathed Wolfe Tone and Parnell.
>>68762162
Gerrymandering was bad and it was emblematic of unionist hegemony over NI. what's worse is successive British governments allowed it to happen.
>>68762958
wew lad if you were in America this post would have earned you a place on an FBI watchlist somewhere. Why the fuck would you harbor such feelings against your own sovereignty?
>>68761331
I have also been labelled an IRA sympathiser so you are in good company, but it doesn't matter
It is the standard retort when they cannot reply to uncomfortable facts.
They are idiots led by the corrupt.
Peter Robinson, ex first minister with several allegations of embezzlement.
Iris, his wife... taking brides and fucking a teenager.
They are like Romanian despots but admired by those who throw around the term "IRA sympathiser"
pic related, Loyalist "Patriotism"
>>68759782
You do know the southern Irish despise you don't you? Don't take my word for it go on some of the web sites. Keep kissing that blarney stone.
>>68763056
>Ireland
>Not British
If it weren't for a few socialist memesters a century ago, we could still be a part of the union.
Be handier to just rejoin the Commonwealth though.
>>68762967
If that's true that's idiotic considering the Rising leaders idolised Wolfe Tone. As soon as their violence became purely sectarian they lost sympathy and political authority and only succeeded in polarising NI's communities allowing Paisleyism to dominate unionism
>>68762914
Really the Wolfe Tones are good for those kinds of songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORifieiZiP4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTJQkhWZekI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYnrjhrkt-0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHY14OVk7r0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmX56cTAfio
>>68758591
The first one is gang related - cig smuggling. The second one could be literally anything.
You loyalists are so fucking retarded. I wouldn't even piss on you if you were on fire.
>>68752518
Assuming brexit happens there is a Anglo-Irish trade agreement dating back to early last century which will save the border towns who rely on trade from the republic. Nothing much will change from how it is now. Borders checkpoints will not be rebuilt - not just because that would cost money but also because they represent more in NI than in other countries.
We know you don't want NI and all its problems as it is and Brits certainly don't want to continue throwing money at something which no longer has any strategic value... We have the best relationship with you lads now anyway. Those of us who even know NI is part of the UK, (you'd be surprised how many Brits just think Ireland is Ireland) would rather it just went away. A relic of a dodgy history we'd rather forget.
When nationalists there become a majority there in the next few years it will still remain the same. Your government will just have a bigger say on affairs there and that's already happening.
>>68763065
forgot yur picm9
>>68752518
I don't want it!
>>68763409
It's always IRA related without fail. We even had a prison officer bombed by them early this month.
>>68763356
>tfw Powellism could've dominated unionism, allowing for more national pride at the worthy cost of less sectarianism
>tfw we didn't listen
Oh, how bright the future of NI could've been.
Inshallah UK will exit from EU.
>>68763422
The free border is protected by the GFA. Nationalists here will not become a majority for a long time. The majority here are 'small u unionists' who respect the status quo and will only listen to economic arguments like the possibility of a Brexit.
>>68763638
Powell would have been even worse for NI because he would have alienated Catholics. O'Neill tried to issue reforms but they were too much for the OUP and too little for Catholics. How would Powell have remedied this?
>>68763748
one step closer to joining the caliphate
>>68763056
Ireland missed out on devolution (home rule) by a matter of days in 1914/5. It got postponed by WWI and then 1916 effectively killed it the idea off. The people at the time were quite happy with Home Rule in the UK.
>>68763626
About as active as the UVF are in drug dealing. Fuck off with your morals.
>>68763970
Look how home rule turned out for everybody except Australia.
Full of foreign shits and a bitch the Anglo-american global empire.
>>68763970
If you haven't noticed by now the IRA is a gang.
>>68763932
ssshhh..
>>68763970
To be honest the unionists would have started a massive civil war over Home Rule. They were just about to attack when WW2 came about. I would like to see this alternate history though.
>>68762491
She dragged the UK out of the grip of socialism and into 21st century free market economics.
Killed the unions throttle on business and kicked the Argentinians off the Falklands
Stood up to the IRA and let them kill themselves during their hunger protests, which brought glorious tears from their liberal supporters across the globe.
USSR labelled her the IRON LADY and had a great working relationship with Reagan and Bush snr.
Her poll tax was her undoing
One millionaire living in a mansion paid less in rates than a family of five in a terrace house.
>>68752518
America will take it :3
>>68763448
pic related lol
>>68763863
He would've imposed direct rule to make it clear that there was 0 chance of the IRA meeting their goal. By doing so, he'd create a deterrent to violence, since the IRA wouldn't waste resources and men on a cause they couldn't achieve. Unlike unionists and nationalists that grew up in Northern Ireland, he didn't have a certain distain for Catholicism on the grounds that it was different to Anglicanism. He'd treat citizens equally not on the grounds of their religion, but on their allegiance to their country.
>>68763970
There was a suspensory act passed to provide provisions for Ulster so the debate wouldn't be have concluded but you are right that the British actions after the Rising turned the Irish into republicans.
>>68763056
the Irish republic is actually populated largely by cucked West Brits, and half of them don't even know it.
Everyone says they're proud to be Irish but at the same time are obsessed with British and American culture and look down on anyone who tries to speak the native language.
one of my neighbours decided to fly the flag in honour of the anniversary of the Rising and not only did someone steal it, but loads of other people on the road laughed at him later and acted as if he was insane for showing a bit of pride in his country.
there is a reason that all the greatest Irish people have literally packed up and left as soon as possible, this place is a fucking dump and 95% of the people here are cucked alcoholic faggots
>>68763863
>Nationalists here will not become a majority for a long time
A decade isn't particularly long and if census projections are to be trusted that's approximately how long it will take.
I wouldn't be too concerned though, most nationalists are content with how things are today and realise a referendum would stir shit up and send everyone back to the bad old days. They also know the republic would have to accept them and it won't.
>>68764084
>how home rule turned out for everybody except Australia
so, NI, Scotland and Wales? The most homogeneous of the UK home countries? Fuck off yank.
>>68764161
A civil war against the Unionists would have been a lot better than the civil war we had in the 1920s. It would be a real joy to look back at the history books and see the bloody corpse of Carson et al.
>>68764095
I've yet to hear of a Unionists RAAD type "gang" evolving.
> they're not an army anymore
> huurrrr better call them a gang
Loyalist logic everyone
>>68759942
Glasgow would piss and whine while furiously rubbing their peckers to the image of a deep fried mars bar slipping out of Nicola Sturgeon's twat. The rest of Scotland would shrug and get on with their lives as usual. NI would double down, make some noise about commitment to the UK, probably look to make sure to keep lines of communication with Eire open though and I wouldn't be surprised if they make a go of setting up some trade deals. Wales would eat some cheese on toast squint to make sure it has its devolved powers in tact but otherwise not give a fuck. England would be split into three camps of view. Above Birmingham would shrug as things continue largely as they always have with intermitent whining about London. Below Birmingham will smugly look at above Birmingham while still being envious of London itself and London a.k.a. Bongo-bongo Land will be the shit hole it has always been, just with another eighty different languages spoken.
Westminster will just find new ways to fuck us all.
>>68759782
Must be great being Irish and moving to America, everyone would probably suck your dick
>>68764171
this
51st state incoming, we'll need somewhere to launch airstrikes in our inevitable war with some European Caliphate
>>68764447
They never were an army.
>>68764396
>is a fucking dump and 95% of the people here are cucked alcoholic faggots
I'll concede this. You forgot to mention that 70% of them are also cucked GAA bumboys. Am I fuck heading back.
>>68764576
> IR Army
>>68764447
>he picks a side on loyalist/republican "paramilitaries"
Embarrassing
>>68764447
>You will never celebrate taking Belfast with your IVF comrades
JUST DIE IN MY SLEEP
>>68764502
that guy is a fuckhead, 364 days a year the Irish are gutter trash, it's why we have St. Patty's. So once a year we too can all pretend to be gutter trash
>>68764655
>Self described.
>>68764396
The reason it sucks is because the good people leave. If you could manage to take advantage of your position in the Atlantic as England once did you might not be so cucked to the United States.
One program in particular i've noticed driving irish people over here is the no-visa education exemption that allows them to stay in the US for six months to a year at a time and do all their learning and earning here.
I do find the anti-nationalism of modern Ireland weird, like people are ashamed to have finally won a little responsibility for themselves. I see it as psychologically linked to Ireland's total lack of gun rights.
>>68753471
>come home white man
>>68764690
>you will never wake up to a letter from Edward Carson, proposing for the reformation of the UVF in light of nationalist raids
Why live?
>>68764366
But nationalists do not pledge their allegiance to Westminster but to the Dail. Direct Rule would not have helped but furthered the democratic deficit which was why NICRA and other groups existed. How would Powell have ended up in charge of a Direct Rule government? Surely he would have only aggitated the already marginalised nationalists?
>>68764426
If you are content in the union you are not a nationalist. You are a small u unionist. Catholicism no longer equals nationalist but the Brexit is the perfect opportunity to create nationalists who are more concerned with EU membership.
>>68764447
Lad, the IRA are a straight up gang. I should know, I live among them. They just go around dealing out vigilante justice to anyone they deem bad for the community.
>>68762914
The pro-IRA songs are actually not all that sectarian. They tend to focus on the Brits, rather than prods.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YYLbj03nMg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rgRg6j8mQo
>>68763356
I was taking the piss. I was pointing out that the IRA generally had no problem with Protestants until religion got muddied in during The Troubles. Their violence, however, was never purely sectarian.
>>68764690
> you will never know the joy of liberating Derry and having a qt Catholic girl wrap her arms around you in thanks
WHY EVEN LIVE?!
>>68764366
>Hey Mr. IRA! You won't win, so don't even try
>Okay government I don't adhere to
Are you special?
>>68764502
>>68764711
Lol fag I don't disagree, but you have to realize that the gutter trash we are talking about are a crowd of policeman.
What's your attitude towards the police when it is decoupled from their flagrant irish nationalism? Probably pretty positive, right?
Just fyi: I think irish and italian immigration are literally the worst thing that ever happened to this country and spelled the end for american democracy.
That's why I don't suffer cognitive dissonance when 'ouah first responuh heroes' stand outside playing a terrorist song with prideful tears in their eyes.
>>68764502
They are the only white immigrant population large enough to still have a noticeable dominance over certain labor markets.
The most prominent one? Bars lmao.
>>68752518
Northern Ireland is screwed if Brexit occurs but that's a good thing as it means we can lose them and save more than 11 billion a year.
If we have the chance to kick Northern Ireland and Scotland out and improve England, we take it.
We are fed up with you republican/unionist morons embarrassing us.
>>68764711
>St. Patty's
1/10 bait
>>68764981
Would have been good craic. And hey wasn't it Eoin McNeil who said it was good for Unionists to fight for their beliefs.
>>68765003
>If you are content in the union you are not a nationalist.
Not true. You can be a Northern Irish nationalist before an Irish nationalist for example, or you could see that the situation isn't right for reunification right now and you want a democratic, peaceful reunification while tolerating the union until such a time presents itself.
>>68753221
Probably not long when they pour in from the south.
>>68765018
kinky boots rofl, thanks man that's exactly what I was looking for.
>>68765202
>Northern Ireland is screwed if Brexit
Explain how. You're aware most in Northern Ireland want out of the EU, right?
>>68752518
All of this Pro-Fenianism is disgusting to witness
Taigs really DO breed like rabbits
>>68757414
>British pride
>England
Practically everyone from England i come in contact with that isn't from London says they're English, not British.
>>68765306
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4KKWHHHw8w
Here's the British Army being sung out of a pub during The Troubles with Kinky Boots since you liked the song.
>>68765003
>If you are content in the union you are not a nationalist
Pursuing goals through political means is more desirable than war and armed struggle isn't it? In the past the political path was not available, now it is.
>>68759182
yea but why would you take a loss for NI
It's like buying a house when you know you will lose money monthly
fucking fenians get the fuck out of my Ulster
>There are still people that think the modern Troubles was the IRA securing Ireland's independence from Britain
>There are people that don't realize that Ireland was already independent and all it was, was a bunch of council house chavs supplied by Americans to try and destroy the far-right country of Ulster which refuses to bow to Cultural Marxism
whats wrong with northern ireland
>>68765018
The problem arises from the conflation of terms 'protestant' and 'unionist.' Some of their violence does seem to be motivated by sectarianism or retaliation for sectarian violence.
>>68765251
>>68765422
Fair enough I guess you can. I just do not see movement towards reunification from these nationalists and it makes me question their motivations. Do Northern Irish nationalists exist in large numbers? I've only heard the PUP use that term.
>>68765343
You think so? I understood it that the EU subsidises so much here we need the EU and there is no way the Conservatives would step in if the subsides disappeared. Has the Farmer's Union declared either way yet?
>>68765445
Its more like paying a mortgage for a second house but the only person who stays in it is a meth junkie who keeps getting into shit with his neighbour you have to sort out
>>68765867
the poster above you
>>68765343
Northern Ireland's economy is near non-existent and relies on us to keep it from collapsing.
When Brexit happens, the EU funding money of millions which goes towards peace programmes and other projects will be gone and we will not be spending money on something which will have no effect.
Peace fails, Troubles 2.0. You have jobs and companies leaving Northern Ireland as they can't trust the economic security and the constant violence and riots such as St Patrick's and 12th July drive companies away. Northern Ireland has lost thousands of jobs in the past few months with the only new jobs being call centers.
Only one party wants out of the EU and that's the DUP. They are mostly for it as republicans want to stay in and being Northern Ireland tribal politics, if they say they will stay, then they will lose votes.
Also, we have a Conservative government. They will not spend money on Northern Ireland, not a chance. Look how they treat England.
N O R T H E R N I R E L A N D
>Redpilled, patriotic, right-wing, outlaws fag marriage, burns Pakis and mudshits out of their homes, race hate capital of Europe, guns are legal, abortion is illegal, 98% white, best education system in Europe
I R E L A N D
>Loves sandniggers, controlled by americans, communists, legalises fag marriage by a popular majority vote, one of the most tolerant places in Europe since Swedenistan, guns are illegal, only 95% white, shit education system
Why on Earth should Northern Ireland be governed by Fenianland?
>>68765867
Its full of Ulster Scots
>>68766133
Orange culture > Fenian culture
>>68753525
Cuckold.
>>68764849
the people are just so easily led and susceptible to propaganda. The whole gay marriage thing probably exemplifies that, I don't mind gay marriage but at the end of the day it was literally just a meme propagated largely over the internet. You don't go from a divorce ban pre-95 to gay marriage 20 years later in a country with any sort of ideological integrity.
Then there's the constant stream of anti-republicanism spewed by RTE and the BBC for the last 50 years. This year the country celebrates the fact that a small band of terrorists seized Dublin city and killed 300 civilians in the process, but at the same time it's completely taboo to express any sympathy for the PIRA in Northern Ireland.
its a shame cos the land itself is beautiful but the people are permanently cucked, my family has slowly been emigrating little by little over the past three generations and I might just be done with it myself desu.
>>68765993
And the South is like that other meth head who won the lottery, spent it on meth and now has to take out a loan from the bank to pay his water bill
And he's black
>>68752562
>NI
>Best gunlaws in UK
>Cuckland
>Need registration for fucking BB guns
Fuck i hope they dont have to go near Cuckland, North ireland is the only funfriendly place left in the UK+Ireland, cause Ireland has even shittier gunlaws then scotland
>Need to register paintballmarkers
>>68753083
NO ONE WANTS YOU BILLY
You're Irish. Get over it. You lot are noy British and haven't been for 300 years.
Its best if we just keep the status quo. Stormont is a mess and will never agree on anything, so its hardly like much will change.
>>68766117
>>68764527
>>68764171
I would be ok with this
>>68766193
>Orange "Culture"
>>68766479
>Global terrorism index.
You have no idea how ironic this is.
>>68766413
>ireland
>not british
Lad.
>>68766232
Is it just apathy that drives you though, or is there a police enforcement apparatus for the propaganda? All the family I have left in Ireland are land-owners and run their own business so I don't know what its like for the average person, but it seems like they are virtually living in a pre-industrial age as far as state interference goes. Do you want to leave because there are few employment prospects, or no ability to profit in general? I personally have grown up in the heart of the american metropolis so the notion of high land-ownership and zero technocratic interference appeals to me. I would consider going back if it were easy enough to just stay on your land once you in fact own it.
What makes your day-to-day life unbearable besides the impression that you live in a nation of blue pilled idiots?
>>68765581
>>68765725
Less of that lads. Don't need this sectarian bollocks these days. We're done with that.
>>68765950
>The problem arises from the conflation of terms 'protestant' and 'unionist.'
Agreed. The muddying of religion into the ideological civil war was the worst thing that ever happened to this place.
>I just do not see movement towards reunification from these nationalists
Short-mid term reunification has a much lower level of support than long-term reunification. The Troubles is still heavy on a lot of the country's minds and the effects of it are still visible today. That shit just can't be ignored with a bellow of Tiocfaidh ár lá and a wave of a tricolour.
>Northern Irish nationalists
I believe 28% of people in Northern Ireland consider themselves Northern Irish before all else.
>EU
I know it'll give us a serious knock but I believe it's a serious knock we need. We have the governmental control to take a bit of charge here. This country is a country of dependency and I'm sick of it. I want us to survive on our own two feet, even if it's a fierce fucking struggle.
>>68766047
The EU is not keeping the peace in Northern Ireland. The people are.
>only new jobs being call centres
IT companies are popping up all over the place here because we shit out a monstrous amount of Comp Sci graduates.
>>68766479
>Economy
Ireland got a good economy by scrounging from the EU when they went bankrupt
>Global terrorism
The IRA attacked the UK, not Ireland
>Muslims
Northern Ireland is still 98% white while Ireland is 95% white
Northern Ireland is literally split of from the rest of the UK by sea so no worries there
And again, my sides at you not putting the education there because Ireland's is shit compared to Northern Irelands
>>68766479
Loyalist B T F O
T
F
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>>68766413
From all I hear the northern irish are way better brits then brits
>>68766413
Mate we live in the British Isles. If we aren't British then nobody is.
>>68766193
AR KULCHER
Stop being a LARPing twat.
The English do want it, fuck you Martin
