https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VybWkpt_3Jo
What are /pol/'s thoughts on Steven Crowder?
>>68559541
he's fucking retarded
>>68559541
In this instance he is correct.
>>68559541
>hitler was liberal
>fascism and NASDAP are left wing
If he believes this he is literally retarded.
part from that, literally who?
>>68559666
>i dont know what liberal, leftwing or socialist means but im just going to apply them to everyone i dont like
>>68559666
Nice trips. Doesn't make up for your lack of a brain however.
>>68559541
Hitler was a nationalist and socialist, he had qualities of the left wing and right wing
>>68559916
Nationalism is not inherently right-wing. The earliest nationalists were liberals.
I'll just leave this here.
I like his commentary. He should stoptrying to be funny though.
>Fascist
>Liberal
Pick only one.
Left-wing? I supposed if you want argue that because of muh social welfare (only for Aryan Germans), okay. Fascism elevates the state, liberalism the individual.
>>68560010
>>68559796
Sorry but you guys don't known anything about political labels.
>>68559994
liberal =/= left wing
>>68560134
He was also a vegan that loved animals and wanted to censor speech.
>>68560010
And?
>>68559541
Contrarian.
He's Canadian so he will be running for president soon.
>>68560311
And confiscated guns. They always come for your basic self defense rights.
>>68560221
McFucking kill yourself.
He's a cuckservative.
>>68559541
that's retarded
>>68559803
>>68559579
>>68559796
>I'm going to insult you but not refute or explain why you're wrong.
Anyone with a concise, smoothly flowing thought process and a clear manner of speech can spew absolutely fucking anything on YouTube and get 200,000 subscribers.
It's not so much about what you say, it's how you say it.
>>68559579
How is he wrong, I actually attended a 99% rally once because I was forced to "job"
and I saw many people saying that they need to kill the wealthy and take the money.
Even at a Bernie Rally, the one televised last night, there was women dressed up like Robin Hood.
They believe they are being taken advantage of and want to kill these people.
Look at Trump rallies, where the left attend and assault people, they are not peaceful, they are the opposite.
They rationalize ways to hurt you and murder you!
>This black man killed a family of 4.
>We should feel bad for him because he is poor, and they where white.
>>68559541
a religious nut job
>>68560484
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_liberalism
>>68560618
Hitler was far-right. The right-wing is defined by a support for a hierarchal society. Hitler supported racial hierarchies and firmly believed in gender roles. Therefor he was rightwing.
>>68560784
How is any of that disproving what I said?
Leftists are lunatics whats new?
>>68561078
>The right-wing is defined by a support for a hierarchical society.
Muh nigga. Keep doing what you do.
>>68559541
G O
A W A Y
S T E P H E N
>>68561078
>racial hierarchical society
black lives matter
>gender roles
strong women, make men submissive
>>68559726
Socialism isn't left wing now?
>>68560730
This guy is also pretty smart though.
He's part of this little disgusting group of 30/40 something cuckservatives that do nothing but shit on Trump, along with the Jew Shapiro, that twat cunt Dana Loesch, etc.
He can go fuck himself in his cuckshed. Pic related.
>>68561078
>what is colloquialism
Mc. Fucking. Kill yourself.
>>68559726
Wtf is a NASDAP?
>>68560395
Is he really? No wonder he likes Ted Cruz so much
>>68559541
Has the traditional christian conservative stick way too far up his ass
>>68559541
He's the biggest fucking tool on the internet. I'm shocked he has subscribers
>>68561305
that doesnt make hitler leftwing m8 get back on subject.
>>68561385
tripfag butthurt is delicious
>>68559541
He was NOT a liberal. He WAS a socialist but to describe him as left wing is dumb. The national socialists are an odd bunch. They opposed Marxist communism but didn't like outright capitalism and were statist as fuck. Socially hitler was very right wing. Economically he was Bernie sanders tier. He was also a war hawk but until recently that's a right wig position to hold
>>68561500
You're literally the reason people watch him, and continue to watch him.
>>68561526
Poor third-worlder destitution is far more scrumptious.
>>68561526
>that doesnt make hitler leftwing m8 get back on subject.
maybe not dictionary leftwing, but the rhetoric is very parallel
>>68561556
What the hell did I do? And why do you have a trip?
>>68559541
HE WAS A FASCIST
>>68561428
National Association of Secondary Deputy & Assistant Principals
http://www.nasdap.org.nz/
daily reminder that Crowder is a good goy shill for the neocon establishment
>>68561532
>Economically he was Bernie sanders tier
Erm....what?
His economics policy honestly isn't all that different from the Far East, like Singapore, Korea, Japan, China, etc.
>>68561646
>Poor third-worlder destitution is far more scrumptious.
Jerseys richer than the US on average m8
>>68561659
Thats an argument that BLM are right-wing not that Hitlers leftwing.
And the idea that BLM is right wing is wrong, its something like a neo-moaist movement that believes there's an eternal struggle between the oppressed and the oppressor so racial nationalism is ok for the weaker party as a means to harm the larger party.
>>68559796
Why does Jersey get its own flag? You guys aren't a country.
>>68561713
You called someone a tool you've never watched because you hear he holds opinions you don't like.
I'm going to deliberately watch a random video of his right now just because of you.
he's a fucking retard
He's raging conservashill moron who thinks he's funny
>>68561855
You aren't ;)
>>68559541
I don't know who he is but he's right.
>>68559541
Economically yes but socially no. He is right in a way. Ernst Rohm was a pure economic socialist and it got him killed.
>>68561855
Would you shut up with this right and left obsession. It's about what they are trying to do and accomplish via government and social policies. Some make it easier than others to become authoritarian.
>>68560010
>Adolph
gets me every time
>>68561849
Shut the fuck up bitch, no one fucking asked you.
>>68559726
Americucks are so indoctrinated they believe anything socialism means privlege checking transexual welfare advocates.
The "hitler was left wing" meme is the ultimate red flag for cuckservatives.
>>68561914
I've watched plenty of his videos and I've seen him interviewed by other people plenty of times
>>68561991
> he's right
Retardlicans everyone
>>68562073
I'm sure you have
>>68561861
We're a country.
>A country is a region that is identified as a distinct entity in political geography.
>>68562003
>dude governments bad always lmao
>the government cant like make people do stuff
>oh now my country is literally brazil
Nah m8. Im a right wing authortarian and proud of it.
>>68559541
Socialist? Yes.
Liberal? Heck no. He was ridiculously authoritarian.
>>68561659
>maybe not dictionary leftwing, but the rhetoric is very parallel
I would agree that there are parallels. But parallels creates false equivalences and juxtapose a genocidal dictator with more benign modern day left-wingers. To say he's left-wing and a liberal is pure propaganda as Crowder does in this video is no better than when leftests twist words in their favor
>>68562153
Fuck you, I"m a bernie backer and if he fails which he will i'm all in for hillary. anyone but trump
>>68559541
Crowder is a cuck for Cruz
fuck him
>>68561999
>Ernst Rohm was a pure economic socialist and it got him killed.
I think being a faggot, having sex with young SA men, and probably being intimate with HItler got him killed. Besides, Himmler wanted him out of the way, too.
>>68562057
This .
Conservashits are so fucking retarded that they believe anything remotely to the left of free market capitalism is Communist SJW utopia
>>68561849
This. Hitler was in favour of a mixed economy like all countries have now, so we're most of the Nazis. The early Nazi party had a lot more radically socialistic elements though.
>>68561532
You think National Socialism is strange because you have never even begun to be taught it. Schools can't teach something as complex as collectivist nationalism, so your middle school history teacher simply said, "Hitler was super right-wing, let's make sure we don't repeat his mistakes by electing a Trump lul xD".
He makes Bernie Sanders look like a centrist. Hitler wanted to abolish societal classes. He was a true socialist, none of this pussy as democratic socialism shit. Hitler just added on extreme nationalism too.
>>68562227
>benign
>organize violent protests and riots against speech they dislike
sure
>>68560221
Fuck off liberal cuck
>>68562353
Back to stormfront with you fascist faggot
>>68559541
>Hitler was a far-left wing liberal socialist
he also lived in a country that was 99% white
>>68562285
Fuck off Hitler loving libcuck.
>>68562353
Im a hard right nationalist you tard.
>>68562411
Go back to sucking off mudnigger cock
>>68562273
lol who told you Hitler was gay? Hitler straight up murdered hundreds of thousands of fags. Is this the latest smear campaign from Salon.com?
>>68562331
>organize violent protests and riots against speech they dislike
Not every body on the left is like that. Likewise to more violent members of the right. Not everybody is anti-White on the left and neither is everybody on the right is a white nationalist.
>>68562285
If you want to steal people's shit you're a leftist commie. Doesn't matter how much of people's shit you want to steal - you're a flaming faggot if you feel a desperate need to take people's property.
>>68562273
That's definitely true but Rohm also wanted two revolutions. The first, Hitler accomplished his national revolution and then Rohm wanted a socialist one.
>>68562561
>#notallleftists
ok, but let me know when you see thousands of Trump supporters trying to shut down a Hillary rally
>>68559541
>What are /pol/'s thoughts on Steven Crowder?
I don't always agree with him but he makes good fact based arguments so I respect him as a commentator.
>>68562511
Your neckbeard is showing conservashit
>>68562561
No everyone on the left is anti-white. They may not be so ideologically but in action they are.
>>68562241
hitlet just went overboard but his ideas were right, bernie will take the good and not go crazy overboard hopefully why do you think it's weird that i admire both sanders and hitler?
>>68562630
> taxes = theft
Fuck off paulbots
>>68562314
>Hitler wanted to abolish societal classes. He was a true socialist
I was under the impression that he wanted classes continue but wanted them to work together in their own capacities for the nation.
He is a literal cuckservative
http://xhamster.com/movies/1739247/shannon_husband_bound_and_she_get_fucked.html
>>68562411
>using fascist as an insult and implying being white nationalist is a bad thing on /pol/
Fresh of the boat from Reddit kid?
>>68562797
Since when is taking people's shit by violent force or threat of violent force not theft dick-sucker?
>>68562314
America is an economic extreme, it is not a universal standard at all.
>>68562797
>responding to tripfags
>>68560784
>dressed up like Robin Hood
How ironic considering Robin Hood stole Money from the King(aka government) and the sheriff of Nottingham was the one who both tried to bring in Robin Hood as well as the one who collected taxes for the King
>>68559541
Neo-cuck
>>68562929
Is paying rent and contributing to the society that protect muh free markets really theft?
Go live in Somali and take your bootlicking dumbass trailer park trash uneducated cuckservative faggots buddies with you
>>68562803
That's what he was establishing during the 1930s-1940s. It was seen as a temporary phase for the establishment of the German volk. After the struggle had been won, Germany would go on to become a utopia.
>>68562971
If by "rest of the world" you mean Europe, then yes. China, South Korea, Singapore, Hungary, Russia etc. are all very similar to the US.
>>68562314
>Hitler wanted to abolish societal classes
National Socialism was very hierarchical, though.
>>68562929
Ok lolbertarian would it be ok if this happened
>libertarian utopia has been established
>40 years into the future theres no more free land
>get born onto owned land
>get told you either get out or get shot
>everywhere else is claimed and youll also get shot if you go there
>land owner tells you if you get a job and pay him a part of your wage you can live there and get privileges passer byes dont
This is all ok in your mind right?
>>68559541
Moron doesn't even know how left and right wing are defined.
It is not defined by economic policies, but now defined by whether one believes in "equality" or not. Hitler was right wing by that definition.
Hitler was actually centre-wing in principle. He was like a combination of Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump.
>>68563181
>China, South Korea, Singapore
Those countries would be considered very statist in nature, not exactly the libertarian ideal.
>>68559541
He's a dick.
>>68560080
I am 100% with you on this. He seems to actually believe what he says, he's really plugged in to the "rabbit hole" type stuff without coming off like a Redditer, and has a non-standard perspective.
But he is just not funny and it kills me sometimes.
>>68563172
You know how someone "contributes to society"? They make something other people want, or do things that help other people. Leeches don't "contribute" to society - they leech from it. But why would you ever want to do anything worth a shit with your life when you can just steal from other people who do? How are you enjoying that BBC Sir Cock-Mongler?
>>68563247
Not sure what you mean by this. The end result was to demolish the economic class structure in the long term. Of course society must still be hierarchical in some way because the nation needed a leader and strong chain of command. People still needed to do different kinds of work. However, the need for the stratification and exploitation of society was no longer necessary.
It's hilarious seeing all the NATSOCs get so booty-blasted over this fact.
Yes, you are leftist faggots.
He's pretty on the ball, economically fascists, nat-socs, dem-socs, and soc-dems are about the same; centrists though, not far-left.
Also I wouldn't call Hitler and the nat-socs Liberal, but that's just semantics.
>>68563390
Economically they're very liberal though. Plus statism is the way of the future. Singapore is the model nation.
>>68563390
But muh free market! Economic freedom > personal freedom. Stupid statist.
>>68563321
He actually never said he was right wing or left wing and thought that they were obsolete as constructs. He vastly preferred the right wing to the left wing though.
>>68562524
He said Rohm was gay.
>>68559541
Hitler was not a liberal.
He was a socialist.
He was a fascist.
And it was a largely left wing ideology.
That being said, the left/right dichotomy is largely false.
>>68563670
He said Rohm may have had sex with Hitler.
>>68561306
It blends aspects of socialism and capitalism, hence why it is the 'third way'. As defined by the people who came up with the term.
The also fought leftists on the streets as their mortal enemies, so there is that, and massacre them en masse in Spain.
>>68560618
Apart from what I have already written, liberalism is antithetical to fascism in any form.
Liberalism asserts the individual as the constituent unit of politics. The individual has rights and freedoms as they are understood, in a fundamental way, to be the building blocks of society.
Fascism sees the nation state as the constituent unit of politics. Individuals have no value aside from what they contribute to society whatsoever. In NASDAP, this is understood in racial terms. ie the nation was the volk, including German speaking peoples (or nation) outside of state boundaries.
Have I held your hand enough yet? Do you think you can take it from here? After all you do have the internet.
>>68561078
You also seem like a mirror image of these other clowns.
>>68563263
>get born onto owned land
You can't own land. Boy that was fucking hard, poor-boy.
>>68563709
Yeah, people getting all bent out of shape about Muh Definitions is just the saddest kind of debate.
>>68563825
Oh you're a left-libertarian, even better.
>You can't own land.
Ok, why?
>>68563825
Tripcancer fuck off
>>68563825
>You can't own land.
Do you mean that it's too bad for that person that he can't own land or that philosophically people can't own land?
>>68563496
Except no one has a problem with the more socialistic elements of the third reich, really. But defining it as "left wing" and concluding that it's anyway comparable to the modern left is a hilarious cuckservative meme.
Lolbertarians are Jew loving cuckservatives that love globalism and only care about shekels, no higher concepts such as nation or race. You are a cancer on the "right".
>>68563751
Come on now, he must have misspoke. Everyone knows hitler only had eyes for blondi.
>>68563925
I'm a right-winger. You just can't own something such that people can't move. If I build a sidewalk around your house while you're asleep I'm not justified in shooting you if you try to cross it no matter how many times I warn you.
>>68559579
Thread should've ended here.
>>68563825
And yet I have a deed garanteeing me ownership of the land upon which my house was built, enshrined by national law and international convention.
If you cannot own land, you cannot own anything.
>>68564008
You can't own land period. You can't even define what "land" is.
>>68564072
So trump is a leftist nationalist for wanting to make America great again ?
>>68563946
If you like cute anime girls that much you could just ask senpai.
>>68564219
>taxation is theft
>but there should be laws against land ownership
Now I know. You're not right wing or left wing you're just retarded.
>>68564261
I can write on a piece of paper that I own the moon too.
Sure means alot.
>>68564288
How the fuck did you conclude that from my post?
God Americans should just be euthanised.
>>68564403
>laws against land ownership
You can't coherently tell me what "land ownership" even is, Sir Poverty.
>>68564286
pretty sure ownership codes actually outline exactly how much you own above and below ground before it becomes government property/air space
>>68564422
Which is why ownership of anything necessitates a state. Without a state, there is nothing to defend property except brute savagery, which is too unstable to maintain a society.
Yes, he was left wing.
Just like every goddamn commie who pushes these awful mixed economies is left wing as fuck.
>>68564219
>>68564286
Interesting. Are you a geolibertarian?
https://www.reddit.com/r/GeoLibertarianism/
>>68564485
You can arbitrarily make ranges as much as you'd like. I can say "land consists in 2-foot cubed units of space", but I'm just arbitrarily pulling shit out of my ass, which is what those people do when they say 50 foot above my house is mine but 50.00001 isn't.
>>68564422
If everyone else agrees that you own it, and you have political power with firearms backing it up, you probably do own the moon.
You don't even seem to be able to distinguish between defending existing property claims and creating new ones out of thin air. As such, I doubt you have any business talking politics at all, let alone as a tripfag.
Unless you are some kind of avant garde trolling performer pretending to be retarded, in which case bravo, you nailed it.
>>68564566
A state *IS* brute savagery - that's all a state DOES.
>arguing over land usage
you keep on fighting, plebs
just keep on fighting
>>68564703
no shit it's arbitrary, but the government enforces the arbitrary borders. After it's established you base ownership on precedent.
>>68559579
>>68559726
>>68559916
>>68560573
Daily reminder that hitler hated wall st, associated capitalism with the jews, limited the wages you could get, disarmed the populace, removed free speech, hated democracy, provided benefits, LITERALLY CALLED THE FUCKING NATIONAL SOCIALISTS WORKERS PARTY,
>Inb4;
>muh racism is right wing
>muh nationalism is right wing
>muh militarism is right wing
Seriously read some books that aren't liberal tier shit the Nazis weren't Far right or even on the right wing at all.
>>68564688
I've never heard of that in my life. I believe in property and respect for property, but that's different than the kind of "ownership" by which absurdities like building a wall around someone's house and claiming of the people you entrapped inside touch it you'll murder them.
>>68564737
It's necessary brutishness in order to progress and maintain the stability of society. The fact that it's not entirely fair is irrelevant.
>>68559541
He's your stereotypical Canadian nu-male cuckold.
Conservashits are globalist corporatist faggots who only care about muh free markets should be shot in the head
There seems to be a lot of confusion here. Allow me to try to define some terms for people:
>Liberal
Pertaining to the freedom of the individual, esp. the freedoms of Life, Liberty, Property/Pursuit of Happiness
Things that are liberal: The 2nd Amendment, Marriage for everyone, Marijuana legalization
Things that are not liberal: Hate speech laws, Laws restricting religious freedom
>Conservative
Maintaining tradition or, in some cases, the status quo.
Things that are conservative: The family unit, Marriage, Constitutional "strict constructionists"
Things that are not conservative: Drug culture, Open marriages, Sex in the media
>Leftist
Economically leaning towards collectivism. Taken to an extreme, it can mean "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."
Things that are leftist: Government subsidies, Universal healthcare, Socialism
Things that are not leftist: Privatization of government agencies, Anything right-Wing.
>Right-Wing
Economically leaning towards a free market. Taken to an extreme, anarcho-capitalism.
Things that are right-wing: Minimalist government spending, Free trade, Capitalism.
Things that are not right-wing: Protectionism, Anything leftist.
Here's a few misconceptions about these ideas:
>Liberals do not necessarily support leftist ideals.
>Liberals tend to oppose government intervention on social issues.
>Conservatives do not necessarily support capitalism, but tend to in America as it is the status quo.
>Conservatives do not necessarily oppose government intervention on social issues.
>Conservatism does not conflate with racism in any regard.
However, in the US these are the trends you'll tend to see:
>Liberals as defined above will be leftists if they care more about social issues, but right-wing if they care more about social issues.
>Conservatives tend to support right-wing economics, and will often oppose some liberal principles.
>>68564729
>you probably do own the moon
You believe in might = right then. Enjoy that.
>>68559541
>Conservatism is perfect and has no flaws! If there are actually examples of evil right wing people.... well they're not really right wing!
>>68565037
Good post.
>>68559541
Crowder is kind of funny, but a Canadian with superficial opinions on American politics. Like other comedians, he makes a lot of uneducated statements or summarizations then passes off any liability by playing the "comedian" card, which is what John Stewart did often.
>>68564880
Basing something on nothing, and then basing things on that something you derived from nothing going into the future does in *no way* mitigate the brute *FACT* that your reasoning is still based on absolutely nothing.
>>68565037
Good information.
>>68564483
>Durrr I give man (insert payment here) for dis land, I owner now.
What a hard concept to grasp.
>>68565037
One correction. The second to last line reads:
>... but right-wing if they care more about SOCIAL issues.
Should read:
but right-wing if they care more about ECONOMIC issues.
>>68559541
Quite like him, even if you dont calling him a "Hurr Cuckservative" is the same as a feminist calling someone a Misogynist, its a shitty shutdown insult stop
>>68565170
It's based on an established social contract of the concept of ownership and a system of enforcing it. Yes, it originates from nothing, but that doesn't make it stop being a thing. Don't be retarded.
>>68564737
>The state is fundamentally based on brute savagery. It gains its power from the threat or actuality of physical violence.
Is true, and only a retard would argue this.
>All a state does is brute savagery
Right. So enforcing laws and property claims, enforcing contrct law, building and maintaining infrastructure, providing educational opportunities and in many countries, providing much more medical care per dollar than you get is all unbridled savagery?
Shit anon, I hope you don't get raped into keeping your stuff, that would be terrible, or beaten into using a public footpath, imagine the horror.
>>68559541
could only handle 43 seconds
fucking idiot
isn't being anti sjw and anti pc a kind of right wing political correctness? so I guess he only hates when the left does bit.
and anti feminist? I always thought feminism was a fight against patriarchy. is he dismissing 1/2 the human race as just being trolls and silly?
>>68564958
There's nothing "necessary" about it. Do you know what necessary *MEANS*? Why is a group of thugs who loot my house any better or worse than a group of thugs who say they're government employees who loot my house?
>>68565037
It tends to be mixed up in america, since the cultural revolution in the 60s reversed the parties in the US.
We just use different terms. Hitler was a nationalist and believed in militarism, xenophobia, and laws to enforce cultural norms. These fall in line with modern right-wing ideology.
>>68559541
I went to high school with him. Graduated the same year. Sorry don't have any stories.
He seems alright at times, although saying Hilter was left wing is retarded beyond belief.
>>68565217
You literally used "land" in your account of "land".
Fucking brilliant. I don't know how you leafs even manage to breathe, let alone utilize a keyboard to articulate words.
>>68565053
>some degree of consensus didn't precede might in my analysis
>might wasn't understood to back up the claims which had already been agreed upon
Can you even read anon?
>>68559579
You're just butt mad that Steve is an attractive white man and is right. Fuck off.
>>68565315
Uh, moron, that's what the constitution is for. It protects you from government thuggery, in spirit. They're finding ways around it in part, but there are specific sections about security of property and affects.
>>68562285
>>68565268
"Established social contract"? Where is this contract? When did I *or anyone else* agree to it?
>>68565154
Basically crowder is a less intelligent Ben Shapiro, who echos everything Shapiro says and only really strays into his own on issues regarding SJWs and internet culture.
>>68564897
Everyone hates Wall Street aside from complete cucks though. If your definition of "right wing" is who can suck the cock of financial parasites the most then why is it a good thing? And hitler distinguished between "productive capitalism" and "Jewish financial capitalism".
What is there too like about your globalist, hyper-individualist faggotry? It's just part of the problem.
>>68565496
Have you ever bought a house? When you buy it you sign a contract transferring ownership to yourself. The owner maybe built the house after contractually purchasing/receiving it from land the government acquired when the land was first obtained after invading/trading with the original inhabitants.
>>68565154
Wasn't he born in Detroit but raised in Canada?
>>68565270
So if Jamal the Gigga-nigga gains superpowers and rapes every woman on earth simultaneously while castrating and torturing you and every other man on the planet while blasting his home mixtape of rap, you'll have nothing to complain about, since he managed it.
What a lovely position ;)
>>68565315
So you would rather have dindus rampage through your stuff rather than pay taxes?
What a histronic little bitch.
I think we have talked before and found common ground, but dude, you are embarrassing yourself right now.
>>68565363
No, they don't. Right-wing ideology is capitalism.
Republicans tend to support militarism and cultural norms because most Republicans are conservatives, not because they're right-wing. Xenophobia is more common among Republicans because conservatism demands that a country maintain its cultural identity, and too many outsiders can muddle the lines. However, xenophobia is a fairly strong, accusatory word.
Nationalism is a conservative ideal, but economically hitler was very much a leftist. He believed in governmental control of the economy, high taxation, and strategic application of socialist principles.
>>68565453
Jamal, Tyrone and Tyrese come to the consensus that you're too white to live. Guess you're fucked, since by your own reasoning they're completely justified in killing you.
He's good in discussions. Some of comedy bits and skits are pretty cringe worthy though.
>>68565418
Hey man, I'm not the one having trouble comprehending land ownership.
>>68565676
>Wasn't he born in Detroit but raised in Canada?
Maybe. If I were trying to make it in America, I would I hide those facts as best I could.
>>68565477
>it protects you from government thuggery
It absolutely doesn't. Government claims a monopoly on the use of violent force - they judge themselves. If they don't want to judge themselves they won't, and more often than not nothing is exactly what happens when government tramples over other people.
>>68565974
But clearly you can see the difference between random individuals invading your property and the government taking actions which you can appeal in court.
>>68565663
Oh I see that contract, and I either agree to it and sign or I don't. But where's this "social contract" whereby I'm bound to the whims of other people?
>>68565730
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_socialism
>>68559541
>american education
That is all.
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>>68565462
>balding
>attractive
>>68565974
>Government claims a monopoly on the use of violent force - they judge themselves.
That's objectively not true. That's why we have the Second Amendment. We can use violent force too if we want. We force the government to uphold their end of the societal contract.
If Obongo ever decided to end free speech or something, a fifth of the population would rise up immediately and overthrow him and replace him.
>>68565698
Dindus already rampage through my house - they're called the IRS. Just because you like sucking nigger cock doesn't mean anyone else enjoys it so much. We wouldn't want to take any away from you ;)
>>68566112
It's called coming to agreements. By respecting the contract you are also signing an unwritten social contract that you will not break the contract. It's a form of cooperation where you comprehend that you are not living in this world all by yourself and must learn to survive alongside other humans.
It's a basic function of life which you seem to lack. Consider finding an unsettled piece of wilderness to go build a cabin and feel great about yourself.
>>68565875
What's land? Define land concretely. Hint: You're a nigger and can't ;)
>>68565697
Whut? You are babbling nonsense. And non sequitur nonsense at that.
Rape violates individual rights and national law where I live. As does forced castration and torture.
Society has deemed these behaviors unacceptable and funded systems to enforce the prevention of these acts.
All a libertarian has to fall back on of this happens is crying muh NAP while gigga nigga tightens up his chastity cage and nipple clamps as he gets ready to penetrate his wife.
ANd what pray tell is your point again? Except for more histronics of course.
>>68559541
>Hitler was a far-left wing liberal socialist
So?
>>68566255
Trusting Jewpedia
YOU HAVE TO GO BACK (TO REDDIT)
>>68566091
There's *absolutely no difference*. They're both invading and stealing. They can call themselves tooth-faeries for all I give a shit - they're not justified in stealing from me or anyone else.
>>68566377
Land is an area of ground that is not water, but can contain water and other resources. How is this even confusing to you.
>>68566277
>We can use violent force too if we want
There are hundreds of thousands of court cases that claim otherwise. Literally hundreds of thousands.
>>68566515
Define stealing? You keep saying no one owns anything, right? How did you come to own anything they can steal then?
>>68566601
Ya, it's illegal mate. The Constitution implies a right to revolution in the Second Amendment, but SCOTUS is never going to acknowledge that (let alone ever declare conditions are appropriate for its use). It doesn't matter though, the capacity still exists and is defended by our Constitution.
>>68566315
No. You can't agree to terms you never agreed to. You can only agree to those things which you explicitly agree to - if it's not written or said or otherwise directly communicated it's literally impossible to agree to it.
>>68566452
>Trusting Jewpedia
The world's largest encyclopedia with clearly annotated sources.
>MUH FACTS!
Let me guess. You get all your information from Encyclopedia Idiotica.
>>68566428
He managed it though, and you believe might = right. You can't complain. He kills all your "lawmakers" first, slapping them to death with his 8-foot long giga-nigga cock.
>people actually believe that the Nazis were right-wing
If the National Socialist German Worker's Party was right-wing, then is socialism right-wing? No, you'll say, because it was the nationalism that made them right-wing. Then we have the curious scenario where socialist governments may be both far-left and far-right. How ludicrous. Flawed political thought like this is why the foreign world is so far behind.
The only valid left-right paradigm compares government interference in the private sector and nothing else.
>>68559541
I watched his interview with Cruz and the guy is entertaining and provocative. Also, anyone who's not retarded knows that lither was a left wing nut. Only trolls, 12 year olds, and white supremacists who refuse to take the final red pill will argue with you.
>German economy rocketed out of the great depression due to Hitlers policies( though not everything was great)
>"lmao Hitler was a socialist you socialists are so stupid "
It you're trying to make socialism look bad at least pick a decent example.
>>68566538
What is ground? What constitutes ground? You can substitute ambiguities all you fucking want faggot - it's not gonna help you define a term you want to fuck people over with.
>>68559579
I was gonna call him Neocon but that works too I guess.
>>68566988
Hitler*, obviously
>>68561532
Geek
>>68566780
So you're saying no one ever communicates with you on anything? You have to literally have no interactions to come to no agreements ever.
Example: you are living in an area. Someone else approaches you and says they own that area. You say no, so they produce an agreement they made with the government to own the land that the government will enforce. How do you prove you own where you live?
>>68567056
You're literally retarded. Ground is what people in general agree it is. If you disagree and 99% of everyone says what's ground, guess what? You're Wrong.
>>68565822
Do you even know what consensus means? Or a qualifier?
Sort your shit out. All you have done is straw man, ad hom and hyperbole this whole discussion, with a hefty sprinkling of outright nonsense.
Make a real point if you can.
>>68566280
>Likening paying taxes to a home invasion and being deprived of all his worldly possessions.
Can we bring this back from an exclusive focus on your feelings to something resembling a factual discussion please?
>>68566379
Not this shit again.
The US definition of liberalism is an outgrowth of this definition. Perhaps using illiberal means to provide the right for everyone to be equal.
You can (and probably should) argue that it is a particularly destructive and divisive thing, but you cannot say that it is not understood and discussed in terms of individual rights, how these rights assert themselves over any collective or social rights, and therefore affirm the individual over society or the state.
>>68566946
The world's largest encyclopedia that refuses to have an entry for Cultural Marxism but maintains the "Laissez-faire racism" article.
>>68567056
>What is ground? What constitutes ground?
The solid surface of the earth.
>>68566608
Lockean homesteading can be a basis for property claims. I'm going to dogmatically assert you can't land-lock people with property claims - it won't be dogmatic if you believe in the Christian God, but it will come off as dogmatic in all likelihood to you.
>>68566988
Lol. Literally no one in the mainstream of political history defines hitler as left wing, literally only immature teenage libertarians do this to score "gotcha" points against democrats.
>final redpill
Cuckservatism is the final red pill?
>>68566947
I don't believe that might makes right.
You believe I believe that. And you didn't even post in response to that point at all...
Stop strawmanning. And grow up. If you cannot defend your points civilly and with logic, you don't have any worth defending.
>>68567358
>bandwagon appeal
Sasuga Britain
>>68566751
Being "illegal" or "legal" is irrelevant to reality, which is that people can do whatever it is they can manage to do. And governments can usually manage to do a whole lot more than they say they allow themselves to get away with with no repercussions.
>>68559579
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>>68563709
left/right dichotomy isn't false.
The parameters to draw that line today are.
>>68567456
>anyone who isn't retarded knows hitler was a left wing nut
Implying that anon wasn't trying to appeal to authority when that authority doesn't even exist.
>>68567146
What are you talking about? I come to an agreement with my wife when she asks me to take the garbage out and I say 'OK'. I don't come to an agreement with *anyone* when someone says hello and I say hello back.
You can only agree to statements in which obligations are conferred, which isn't most human communication *in the slightest*.
>>68567485
Is there anything you'd like to say to my face, or are you British?
>>68567146
>ground is what people in general agree it is
I and everyone else agree you should be assfucked by Abdul while sucking off his goat. Woo consensus! It matters *soooooo* much!
>>68567697
What he said does not change the non-existent validity of your fallacious reasoning, Muhammad.
>>68567196
con·sen·sus
kənˈsensəs/
noun
noun: consensus; plural noun: consensuses
general agreement.
When it's 3/4 people agreeing on something, that's a "general" agreement. If you don't like it maybe you shouldn't have existed in the first place ;)
>>68567309
How solid? Does a peat bog count as ground?
>>68567858
Yes, but that's why we have a governmental system of laws and checks. It prevents mob rule that would allow people to sentence me to do that.
It's a collaborative effort to work together as a society. It's not hard to understand.
>>68568159
Republicanism prevents mob rule you fule.
>>68567389
You don't believe might = right? *Really*? Then what is this entire post by you admitting if not that whoever can manage to subjugate others is justified in doing so?
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>>68567854
Want to have a Skype conversation?
Fucking stupid faggot.
>>68564897
>the Nazis weren't Far right
>literally the first thing they do do after the Enabling Act is kill 4000 left winged political opponents
ok
>>68568159
Government checks itself. And most of the time it finds its not in governments interest to do so, so it doesn't. You're absolutely deluded if you think a system in which a group of people judge everyone else and is accountable to no one but themselves by their own facetious mandate is reasonable.
>>68568340
I'd like to use this convenient platform that we are communicating on right now. People who are not autistic type their thoughts into these boxes so that others can understand them.
>>68568386
>if you disagree with something, you have to be its opposite
Nazi Germany's primary rival was left-wing. Why would they not kill them?
>>68568475
>Government checks itself
Find me a single page of a reputable history book that depicts a government checking itself by its own volition. Holy shit, the autism.
>>68568475
No, the people check the government you dingus. That's why we have a representative republic. Anyone can become a part of the system and people can vote for people in their communities to make the rules.
It's a government designed to be BY the people and FOR the people.
Additionally, you keep bringing up "might makes right" as being some terrible thing, but to establish literally any country required might at some point because people will attack and take it from you without might. Without might no one owns anything because the neighbor with the pointier stick will kill you instead of negotiating with your stupid ideas of implicit ownership
>>68568734
That's what I'm saying. Government *doesn't* check itself - it just says it will to make you feel better about government fucking you in the ass.
>>68559541
>Liberal
>Left wing
Yeah, no. I suppose he was somewhat left wing in regards to the "Socialist" part of Nazi, but he was incredibly right wing morally and philosophically, mostly in regards to racialism and traditionalism, invoking old Reich and Roman imagery, Nordic Paganism, the belief in the Ubermensch. Hitler was anti the Materialism of the modern Capitalist system, but was still pro private enterprise in most regards. His state was a Volk Aristocratic state, where the people and the Reich were to transcend modernity and Liberalism and reach an Ubermensch state of being.
Having a welfare state doesn't make that state "leftist", if that was the case, then the Ottoman Empire would be a leftist state since it had that Islamic "redistribution" tax where the poor got money. I'm certainly not advocating for welfare, but the right trying to make out Hitler as a leftist is just desperate and cringey.
>>68567253
>They don't have one thing I like so the whole thing is bullshit!
Is this really how right wing morons think?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School#Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory
>>68568478
>no one would argue socialism can be right wing
>people have argued this since the 18th century
>it's impossible for a state to blend elements of right wing and left wing ideology
>Nazi Germany literally defined itself as syncretic
>>68568790
>the people check the government
*REALLY*? So government isn't subject to being judged in *government* courts by *government* employees?
"If you don't like them don't vote for them and vote for someone else." *OR*, *ALTERNATIVELY*, you could GO FUCK YOURSELF AND LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE. You have no right to fuck with other people's lives who haven't done jack shit to you.
>you keep bringing up "might makes right" as being some terrible thing
You're literally a nigger.
>>68568609
Opposites don't exist in politics. There is no universal horizontal spectrum, just a collection of postions.
>>68569146
>"If you don't like them don't vote for them and vote for someone else." *OR*, *ALTERNATIVELY*, you could GO FUCK YOURSELF AND LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE. You have no right to fuck with other people's lives who haven't done jack shit to you.
In a society you DO NOT have the right to be left the fuck alone. You interact with society every day and are a part of it whether you agreed to it or not. You live on government land by their will and their will alone. Luckily the government IS made up of people and can change. You can even sign up for an election and if people agree with you you can then make the decisions. That's how life works. Get over yourself and your entitlement issues.
You are entitled to NOTHING
Left Wing? Economically somewhat
Liberal? Fuck no
Seems to me like one of these things people do in order to justify the fact that they like him or something. What's so bad about being right wing? Why do I need to build bridges in order to make it seem like he's left wing just so I can feel better about my own believes?
Nothing wrong with right wing and national socalism, or Hitler for that matter.
>>68569322
>In a society you DO NOT have the right to be left the fuck alone
You don't have the right to steal from me or use violence against me just for existing - you can pretend you do as much as you'd like. You'll be judged by a Righteous God for your evils.
I agree I'm entitled to nothing, but you're also entitled to absolutely nothing, among which includes me and my property.
>>68568925
People have been fighting for a long time to make Cultural Marxism its own article. Meanwhile, articles about how the free market is racist are up just fine. If you can't see how that's biased, you're blind.
>>68569701
If you are breaking the rules of the society you were born into that's exactly what the government/people will do to you. That is their right as a form of governing, though the implementations are limited by the constitutions of the feds and of the states and local cities. You can pretend they don't have that right, but you're wrong.
>>68569322
>You live on government land by their will and their will alone.
untrue. government has no intrinsic power. it derives its power from the people, and if it ceased to respect the people, the people can dissolve it. by force, aka, putting a bullet in the head of every politician responsible
>>68569076
I haven't said any of those things, fool. First you hit me with a bandwagon appeal, then you attack with a strawman.
That may pass for the political wasteland that is Europe, but I'm accustomed to more proper argument. Please grow out of your European cognition already and argue coherently.
>>68569972
yes, but this guy is pretending that he has to agree to the power the people have constructed for the government to execute. If the people running the government decide they need your land, you can't do anything against it because eminent domain is an established procedure in which they are required to compensate you, but you can't say no.
>>68569936
So governments magically acquire rights that people don't normally have just by calling themselves government? Wow! Great! I'm the government then. Bend over ;)
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people should post this on reddit with a picture of Sanders, make it go viral and have idiots on reddit and facebook push it everywhere.
>>68570258
>rebranding Hitler quotes and sending them to SJWs
It's worked before.
