How can anti-Trump fags ever recover?
What it would take to build Trump's border wall
http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2016/02/16/trump-border-wall-explainer-animation-orig-nws.cnn
That's Trump change.
>>68312879
thought your image was describing my dick until I read the 5 billion pounds
>>68312879
If thats what 10 billion buys and illegals cost us over 70 billion, we can get landmines, automated turrets, razor wire and electric fences for 70 billion.
>>68312879
Make the walls out of mirrors then the Mexicans will just see mexico and walk away.
>>68313019
I can only pound up to 3 girls 5 billion is insane I don't have that stamina
>>68312879
>20 feet high
>>68313071
allmykek
>>68313063
I want to guard our border under the Trumpenführer.
>>68313071
kek
>>68312879
The United States has added $10 trillion to its national debt since Barack Obama became president. $10 billion dollars is nothing for a large government these days, faggot.
One trillion for manned mission to mars
10 billion for wall
Cost of illegal immigration to the US
>priceless
Why does it matter how much it costs? Mexico is paying for it.
>>68313063
Add 20 feet to the top, and 20 to the bottom (get fucked tunnel rats)
>>68312879
>CNN never heard of T-barriers
more fine reporting skills
>>68312879
>not posting the original video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2CI6gfmzlE
>>68312879
10 billion in precast. This doesnt incude the steel, the diesel, the exquipment maintainence [which is huge] and the labor. just saying.. if you want to compare to how many billions illegals cost to determine how many machine guns and pill boxes we can have and stay under budget, we need to know the actual cost..
easy, end foreign aid. especially to Mexico.
voila, just saved us billions
it's like you faggots don't even know how much money is wasted on propping up failure countries.
>>68313209
Not even going to be a problem. Not after we send our debt collectors to Mexico city, anyway.
>>68312879
Mexico will pay for the wall.
>he guys I know you're illegal but can you help build this wall pls
>>68313209
Op is for the wall, he's laughing at the Anti Trump Wall.
>>68313240
exactly this
and you know their labor costs are nothing
>>68313285
so 1/8th of what mexico is costing us anyway?
>>68313071
Brilliant!
>>68313285
Why don't we just enslave Mexico, and force them to build it to?
>>68313071
>>68312879
fucking chump change
>>68313285
that wont outweigh the material in cost dipshit
gg tho
>mfw mexicans will get jobs building the wall because thats how mexico will pay for it
Looks like a 21st century Berlin wall
I'm guessing it will all be pre-fab, then transported to site to be placed.
Could work Anon
>$10B wall
>$100B annual cost of illegal immigrants on the US economy
Hm.
>>68313407
Why don't we recall every armed forces member overseas, put them at the border, and say "go until you hit cape horn"? That would be a better idea, imo. All of that fertile growing land.
>>68313365
right.. it is vital to have an actual figure so we can figure how many cannons we can put on it and still be in the black..
>>68313215
>net migration is low
>lets build a $10 billion wall anyways
>we'll make this a top platform issue instead of fiscal policy, education reform, natural biological threats, and foreign affairs
>>68312879
>and the labor
Army Corps of Engineers is fucking free.
So basically invest in steel and concrete commodities now
>>68312879
>$10 Billion
We literally give 3x as much as financial aid for millennials to get their Gender Studies majors right now.
If we insist on no cuts to existing programs, we could always tax remittances at 5% heading out the US. Or 21% on tax remittances solely to Mexico if we want to get vindictive. Either way, it would pay off by the end of Trump's first term.
>$10 billion wall
>puerto rico's debt is $80 billion
>>68313330
I know your shitposting but no mexican citizen will actually help build the wall or pay for it willingly, they'll just be taxed to shit.
>>68313501
Hell, I'd re-up tomorrow if we did that.
>>68313019
Your dick is $40 per square foot?
>>68312879
>>68313262
>We're going to have a really shitty wall
Yeah, nah.
>>68313508
mexican intellectuals everyone
>>68312879
So about $30 per citizen in America?
Let's get it done.
>>68312879
um, mexico is paying for it.
>>68312879
>tfw thinking about the wall makes you happy
has this happened to anyone yet?
20' seems kinda low-energy
>>68313454
you would be suprised how much money goes into diesel and maintainence when setting precast. diesel to run the generators that power the welders, diesel for the cranes, diesel for the trenchers.. and all of thes machines wear out constantly. I am not talking out my ass about this... i was a crane oiler in for 5 years and the amount of money it takes to keep those machines running is astronomical.
>>68312879
>$10 Billion to Build the Wall
That's it?
That's almost a fucking rounding error in the Federal budget.
>>68313517
Have you watched a Trump rally? He goes on and on about fiscal policy, education reform, and foreign affairs. He also brings up the wall, but who could blame him?
>>68313071
My wife can't stop laughing
>>68313688
Every day i hope Trump wins so i can pay him 20$ to get my name placed on the wall
>>68312879
Mexico receives half a billion a year.
Palestinians receive a billion a year.
Perfectly doable now that Trump is going to let Israel genocide the Pallys.
>>68313731
>little juans and joses with cans of wd-40, working for their next ration.
>>68313573
PAY DEBTS
DEUDAS DE PAGO
>>68313731
>trust me im experience anon
i work in mining
get on the train or fuck off to reddit
>>68313649
kek.. nice appeal to authority [in this case "everyone"] the irony of my bantz are lost on you my friend
>>68312879
SHILLS OUT IN FORCE
>>68312879
20 feet is literally nothing.
50 feet high.
Mexico is like the movie the purge but it's everyday
![1458620451800[1] copy.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2GFzBul.jpg "1458620451800[1] copy.jpg")
>>68313597
>>68312879
10 billion is nothing
>>68313688
Yeah, it's like those radical leftists and their safe spaces.
>>68313806
Also - Afghanistan receives 4 billion a year.
Just fucking glass the joint, leave and don't pay anymore.
Voila.
>>68313834
for sure. wd 40 and grease guns for all the greasy little bastards. that would save a shit load
>>68313977
Difference is safe spaces are nonsense, this will be actual safety.
>>68313865
damn bro. what you mining? dicks?
>>68313578
That's why we tax the fuck out of their exports and imports and bleed them dry until they practically beg us to let them build it.
>>68312879
>10 billion
You mean the amount we spent per month in Iraq?
>>68313071
>>68312879
That's fucking nothing OP.
He can place a massive Embargo on Mexico to make it possible. This at the same time will force them to actually farm for themselves and build their own economy from their own agricultural sector.
The wall is metaphorical, CNN is full of shit
All Trump wants to do is enforce the border. That means giving CBP teeth again and expanding programs like drone surveillance for CBP's QRF teams.
Besides, if they wanted to pay for the wall we could just cut off aid to Mexico and pay for it that way.
>>68313517
>>68313517
The wall is a symbol of fixing the retarded policy of republicans and democrats for the past 20 years.
If we build the wall, shit is going to change bro.
>>68313783
my wife's kids are looking at me like, why are you laughing
>>68313578
>or pay for it willingly
Who gives a fuck what they want? You're the super power and they're the third world hell hole. Stop being a beta faggot and impose your will on them.
>everyone complains that america is always in everyone's business
>threaten to build a wall and stop sending foreign aid to people
>everyone complains we're being racist and isolationist
You can't win with these people.
>>68314052
It's not going to stop planes from crashing into buildings.
>>68313063
>not knowing the amount of illegals that would get stopped by a wall
>>68314076
im mining liberal butthurt right now faggot
im gonna need more shovels
>>68313063
We'd be better off building a wall along the northern border. A lot of illegals start in Mexico, come to Canada, and then sneak into the United States from the north.
>>68314184
The wall will be built. And it will be a physical wall.
How deep is it?
Spics love diggin
>>68314307
>A lot of illegals start in Mexico, come to Canada, and then sneak into the United States from the north.
A lot
lot
lol
>Illegal immigration costs the US $100 billion a year.
>Wall costs 10 billion and helps stop Immigration massively.
It literally pays for itself in under a year.
>>68313597
black dick is expensive
>>68312960
Fpbp
>>68312879
Chinese steel?
>>68312879
>coming up with your own specs for a project
>complaining how much building your imagination will cost
>>68314184
>>68314188
>The wall is metaphorical
>Trump's statements are interpreted like Bible passages
>>68313071
holy fuck that's brilliant
>>68312879
20 feet high?
So Trump originally planed to make it only 10 feet?
This idiot..
The wetback Pres. needs to insult Trump 2 more times so the wall at least 20 feet higher.
>>68312879
Why a wall? Why not a lava moat?
>>68314336
picture says only 5 feet
We literally give 70 billion in foreign aid a year
>>68313063
I want it mad max style with severed heads, spikes and flamethrowers
>>68313649
Interesting figure.
$10,560,000 / 320,090,857 (2015) = $32.99 per person in the United States
$10,560,000 / 95,800,000 tax paying population (2015) = $32.99 per $110.23 (Under current income tax population. Keep in mind that under Donald Trump's income tax regime households making under $50,000 won't pay a cent to the federal treasury out of their income)
New Estimates Of How Many Households Pay No Federal Income Tax
http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2015/10/06/new-estimates-of-how-many-households-pay-no-federal-income-tax/#403b47083cf4
>The bottom line: out of 171.3 million tax units this year, 77.5 million—or 45.3 percent—won’t pay income tax.
>>68313365
EIGHTY-FOUR
BEEELION
DOLLARS
The wall is PEANUTS
>>68312960
ULTIMATE KEK
>>68313798
$50 for Americans to get their name on the wall.
$100 for foreigners to get their name on the wall.
You'd make so much money you could pay for the automated turrets, drones and hundreds of thousands of land mines on top of the wall.
Hey if Mexico can build a wall on it's southern border, so can we! USA! USA!
>>68313071
>>68313071
>>68313600
A BIG BEAUTIFUL WALL
>>68313071
But how can Mexico be real if our borders aren't real?
>>68314458
If Trump can build a wall, maybe for once we'll pass a balanced budget.
>>68313649
>>68314511
>And Americans are going to pay for it
That's not how it goes
>>68313071
EYYY ESE LOOKS LIKE WE WENT THE WRONG WAY
>>68313968
o-oh
I want the wall so my vacations to Mexico get cheaper.
>>68314292
oh. Im constructing logical inquisition so we can determine how many fucking blazing machine guns to install on the wall and stay in the black.. id like to think liberal butthurt would be a byproduct of my construction. Now i see the difference... you are satisified with literally digging the existing liberal butthurt out of their ass, while I am actually doing my best to CONSTRUCT IT bitch!
>>68313071
>>68313517
>>net migration is low
>ignores the cost of illegal immigration
toplel
the moment you kick them out so that they stop leeching off the system is the moment migration kicks up again and the wall will be there to take care of that.
The wall needs to be irrigated with man-made canals stretching from the pacific to the gulf. The wall should extend deeper into the earth, and surveyed through core samples to find places where the bedrock is shallow to the surface. The irrigation, in cadence with rubble fill to reduce erosion would prevent digging underneath the wall by risk of flooding and also efforts to scaffold the face of it by unstable support.
>>68313517
What has the trend in legals migrating have to do with the illegals problem?
>>68313071
best hat ever
>>68313968
What program did you use to write in meme front? All I'm using at the moment is MS Paint.
>>68314523
That'd be awesome. I-is there some stupid reason this CAN'T happen?
Obama care is costing us 55 billion and growing. get rid of Obama care and build 5 walls.
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/obamacare-turns-6-55-billion-in-waste-so-far/
>>68313071
>this amuses me
>>68312879
The wall's gotta sink deep into the ground to be effective. Spics aren't climbing over walls, they're digging tunnels into conveniently located safe houses along border towns. Walls just keep out the cheap bastards who won't pay for a well-connected coyote.
The better plan would be to grant border patrol with the equivalent of letter of marque. Make them border privateers who can plunder the assets of all undocumented border hoppers they can round up. Spend a few mil upgrading their gear with thermal vision, ground sonars, and other goodies, along with a mandate allowing them to take 25% of all seized proceeds as tax-free bonus. To prevent targeting of citizens, limit their operation of areas outside of legal border crossings (US customs can handle that traffic) and make it conditional that they loose all bonuses seized for that month if they unlawfully appropriate property of legal citizens and residents (if said property was knowingly and voluntarily in custody of an illegal, that gets forfeited, as with safehouses and other materials provided by legal citizens in support of illegals). Makes them do their due diligence in checking all docs against registries for authenticity. Seized property can be impounded until docs check out and this only happens at uncontrolled borders. Taking bribes from illegals is largely rendered moot by this but getting caught will result in forfeiture of ALL bonuses accumulated during career as a deterrent. Obviously catching those who are hopping back to Mexico with ill-gotten dollars will be more profitable and the temptation to let a few fishes across to fatten up before they return to spawn is always a possibility but does not help the US economy. So, agents who can maintain a higher ratio of ins to outs get an extra 15% bonus to their haul at the end of the year.
Good thing they haven't invented ladders in Mexico yet.
Unless you also want to pay thousands of people to watch over every half mile of the wall, or add motion sensors that would go off constantly due to other animals.
walls are so easy to get over tho...
this is so fucking dumb
>>68314279
It will stop Pedro from getting into the country
>>68312879
CNN is retarded think concrete can't cure with high humidity, that shit is hydraulically activated.
CNN analyst should stick to finances instead of engineering.
>>68315016
an old copy of photoshop I've had on my computer since around 2005
That is 1/10 of what we spend on them here.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/illegal-immigrants-cost-us-100-billion-year-group/story?id=10699317
Sorry Juan, but you've got to go back.
>>68315121
this is what the machine gun turrets are for
>>68314116
My last two digits will be wall height
>>68313071
Kek
>>68315139
Except if you put a firing squad.
>>68312879
Here is how this works.
The United States government allocates $12 billion directly to Trump.
He gets four years to complete the wall.
Any cost overruns, he has to pay for himself.
If he doesn't complete the wall by 2020, he has to pay back all the money used.
Also, maintenance costs have to be included. The personnel to man the wall and maintain it must be paid from those funds, plus all the surveillance tech required to watch the wall must be included.
So, buildings/facilities, guard towers, vehicles and all other miscellaneous equipment and training must be included.
>>68315139
>Implying we wouldn't still have border patrol
>>68315121
>>68315139
Shills with their shitty techniques again.
>>68315139
Yeah it looks like they're getting over really easy. :^)
>>68315121
Beacuse we are just gonna build a tiny wall and leave it ungaurded right? Fucks sake.
>>68315139
Why have laws if criminals are gonna break em? why build walls if some people are gonna climb them?
>>68315139
There'd still be patrols, and it'd force choke points, rather then waves of them secretly swarming across the dessert.
The total efficiency would go up, as well as the fact they'd have to carry a heavy, expensive ladder, AND lose it every time their caught.
>>68315139
the amount of people that would clime a wall like that is far far less than the amount who would walk across an imaginary line
which they already have a hard time with
>>68314862
pls continue
>>68313261
this guy gets it
>>68312879
>Only 5 feet deep
Seriously nigga? I've been in fallout shelters that were deeper than that shit.
>>68315408
How are you going to guard it?
>>68312879
#1
>Who cares how much it costs, Mexico will be paying for it.
#2
>8 inches thick? Nigger please. Try 8 feet thick.
#3
>20 feet high? Nigger. please. We know its already gotten 10 feet higher and Trump didn't plan on building no 10 foot wall. The wall will be 50 feet at least.
>>68315139
>you still have to get down
>mexicans don't own ladders
>there's no way a pregnant woman can get over a 20 foot wall.
>>68315395
Dear reddit. You can argue with a strawman but we are not strawmen. By misconstruing our arguments to make them sound silly you do yourself a disservice.
But you know we are right so you have to misrepresent our arguments
>>68313071
Me and my wife's son are laughing so hard at this
>>68315395
>deportation = ethnic cleansing
Holy shit these people
>>68313517
>natural biological threats
Those are the ones we need to leave alone son
>tfw people used to put out forest fires every time in the Piedmont
Idiots
>>68315603
With paid guards?
>>68315139
That's why we need to spend a little bit extra and build:
>a second wall, similar to the Berlin Wall
>extra guard towers
>land mines
>barbed wire
>tank traps
>trip wires
>camouflaged pits with spikes at the bottom
>Mexican heads and bodies on stakes
>guard dogs
>vehicle patrols
>sensor activated auto turrets and lights
>electric fencing outside the United States wall as a last line of defense
I can picture it now...
>>68314184
fuck, forgot pic
We have optics shit like this available.
Length of Mexican border: 1933 miles
Gorgon stare actionable surveillance area: 35 miles squared
So that's 5.9 miles at it's furthest length and width
Now assume we need about 150 of these for adequate coverage when linked with NRO and other SIGINT satellites.
MQ-9 Reaper + ARGUS-IS module = ~15M
15,0000,000* 150 = 2.25B
Existing CBP ground assets are adequate for current illegal immigrant ingress numbers, they just need eyes in the sky and an administration that will back them up.
>>68314319
It's unnecessary. We have the best military tech in the world. Might as well put it to good use.
>>68314458
He's arguing for a physical wall but if he's smart, what he'll deliver is a much more dynamic and proactive defense for less money. And then he'll come out looking like a genius when it costs a fraction of what libshits think it will cost.
Where we're going, we won't need a physical wall. There will just be signs that tell you you're being watched by a combination of spy satellites and sophisticated semi-automated drones. And you'll be met by our less-than-polite Border Patrol.
I thought most illegals come here legally but don't leave when they're supposed to.
I don't really see how this wall will fix anything.
>>68314467
No, he wants to make it 35-40 feet high.
He said during one of the rallies that he wanted to use 40 foot tall precast concrete planks.
That was prior to him saying the wall just got 10 feet taller though, twice. So, we're looking at a 60 foot tall wall right now, which would be extremely imposing.
>>68313290
>how much money is wasted on propping up failure countries
We can recover about $15 billion per year just by not propping up Israel.
Oh. Wait.
Trump is all about being Jewistan's biggest propper-upper.
I wonder how much aid increase Trump intends to ship to Jewistan for their support of his Presidential bid?
> Tell me Jews are throwing money at Trump
> and NOT expecting a large return.
> Just say it out loud to yourself and try to keep a straight face.
>>68315114
That is rather an interesting idea, seems well thought out. Also, I may have found my calling
>>68315603
With the existing border patrol we already have? It's not like we are gonna tell all those people to pack up and go home.Just reassign half of them to boat duty since it will be so much easier to manage with an actual wall
A wall is not a magical fix to all illegal immagration but it will certainly cut back on it
>>68314679
WITH A BIG BEAUTIFUL GOLDEN DOOR RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE
>>68312879
What are we suppose to do when the Mexicans create Titans to knock down this wall?
>>68315833
>dumping our sewage into Mexico
Please be real under Trump's Presidency.
>>68313165
Me too, Night's Watch when?
>>68315731
If mexico is paying i support this 100%
>>68314195
My wife's boyfriend is confused
If I was a bettin man I'd say the spics would just tie some ladders together and climb right over that piece of shit wall
>>68313597
I'm much more impressed that he measures his dick in square feet.
Not sure how I feel about imagining that ... somewhere between horror and fascination, like watching a school bus full of children getting hit by a train.
>>68313365
wait, you do realise there are not only Mexicans in the states right? if anything you have chinese, indians and many other white europeans, is /pol/ ok deporting couple thousand white people?
>>68313290
This holy shit, if we spent all this foreign aid money on securing our borders this issue would've been resolved by now.
this thread is filled with nigger logic
do you people think we are just going to build a great wall and leave it unnamed?
You do know America already uses drones, night & thermal vision devices, choppers, boats, motion detector, cameras and other shit already to secure the boarder.
we already spend 12 billion+ a year on border protection
a shitty wall is already there but a better wall would aid in helping the boarder patrol do their job.
>>68313365
I'm looking through this group's website and I can't find the report that outlines where they get these costs. They reference it as a report done in 2009 but under their "Major Research Publications" I can't seem to find it, care to point me in the right direction?
>>68315953
Well, we have fighter jets, and if canons can work against Titans (they did when retaking the town near the Wall Rosa, once they resealed the gap), then I'm betting that drones will do just fine.
Titans are only a problem for a civilization that isn't technologically advanced, where the height of war technology is an air-pressured rappelling system, the shotgun, and the canon.
>>68315710
I'll do it for free
>>68313071
fucking hell why didnt we think of that
>>68315710
2,000 mile wall. How many guards do you think we'll need? 24 hour guards at every 10 miles being paid $8 an hour is $14 million a year.
Half of illegal immagrants come in legally anyways, through work programs, but they over stay their welcome.
>>68315834
Lol, Trump has made it clear the United States is getting out of the world police business without some kind of value out of it.
He's still self financing his campaign, with some civilian donations, as shown by the books.
Course, you could always vote for the anti-Jewish polit- oh wait, your just bitching about stuff like a cunt.
Only covered the cost of the cement, not the even more expensive and difficult to transport Iron.
As always CNN, only covering enough of the story to really sway the debate.
>>68316115
we dont need a wall just machine gun nests
>>68316041
It'll be well-manned, after we bomb the hell out of ISIS it will be patrolled by our best men with all latest military technology
>>68315935
We need a new giant statue next to the golden door as a symbol of America's greatness and opportunity, like the Statue of Liberty, only this time don't have it be a statue of Elvis in a dress.
>>68312960
TOP KEK
>>68316185
We already have border patrols tard.
>>68316082
The proportion is immigrants, both legal and illegal, who are white is so small that it's worth it. I believe 9% of total legal immigration is white, and I would presume illegal is even lower number.
>>68316185
Good thing we have a national guard already, eh?
Coast guard protects our sea, National guard protects our land.
>>68315834
>trump is pro israel
>has gone on record by saying he would be neutral between palestine and israhell because it's none of his or the US's business
>>68313573
I vote we grant you your independence, time for you guys to be free.
>>68315864
Denmark has a similar plan in place with the rapefugees in Europe. They call it a resettlement fee.
To keep the libshit backlash at bay, we can even take a token 5-10% of seizure proceeds into the US' own refugee programs and social services for new immigrants as a way of promoting legal immigration.
>>68313596
This
>>68316296
I am talking about illegals as a whole, you have whites, blacks, asians, what ever... the point is all this shilling about the wall is not only about Mexicans is also about other people.
>>68316261
Nope. Then they will just send women and children to the front, while mixing children into the crowd of adults that follows.
The left would pitch an absolute shit fit, even if the guard could be convinced to shoot unarmed women and children.
It's one thing to do "nothing" from atop a wall and let them starve. It's another thing to actively kill them.
>>68313688
Yes. If this wall doesn't happen I don't think I'll be able to deal with the feels.
>>68312879
This whole wall thing is so dumb.
That cost you are quoting was just for the cement, that doesn't take into account any of the labour costs whatsoever, holes don't just dig themselves, nor do walls erect themselves.
Who are these southern states going to get to do all these labour intensive jobs? I imagine most of these kinds of jobs there would be performed by low paid illegals so good luck with labour costs when you want to kick them all out of your country (rightfully so mind you).
Lastly how the fuck does Trump think that Mexico will pay for the wall?
I am pretty indifferent about all the presidential candidates but I guess Trump is the person who I hate the least but to be perfectly honest, this whole wall fiasco is fucking retarded.
>>68312879
So 4 B-2 bombers won't get bought. Oh noes.
>>68315953
Nuke them
>>68316117
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>>68315834
Not only did trump say He is gonna make foriegn countries pay us for support. He specifically mentioned israel.
>>68316185
Looks like a bunch of comfy jobs for Americans eh?
Also, we're deporting the illegal immigrants.
>>68316468
>Then they will just send women and children to the front
i dont think im the only guy here and elsewhere in the country thats run out of sympathy
lets make it fun and throw all the bern trash in front of the guns too.
if they make it past they're in, seems fair to me.
>>68316496
its called pretext to kick mexicos fucking ass.
Why are people shitting their pants about how we're gonna pay for it anyway?
$10 billion is a drop in the fucking bucket when it comes to federal expenditures. China is spending 3/4ths that much just cleaning the fucking Chaohu Lake.
>>68316429
In theory yes. Illegals, regardless of race, disproportionately use welfare and vote Democract.
But Mexicans are easily the largest perpetrators of these things.
>>68316496
We have Army Corp of Engineers who are already on the payroll that can build the wall.
Mexico will pay for the wall through tariffs, taxation on wires to their country, and the elimination of foreign aid.
>>68316496
>labour costs whatsoever
National guard has the equipment and the training to do exactly that, and we are already paying for them.
Alternatively, we could offer any illegal who works on the wall citizenship for themselves, as well as 1 spouse, and any children that share's the worker's DNA. We pay for materials, plus 3 hots/cot, and then the illegals that work on the wall are now legal, and able to pay into the tax system.
>>68316672
Because Mexicans don't want to stop getting in.
>>68316496
The cost was done by professional Estimators, of course they took labor cost into consideration moron.
>>68312879
Just lol anyone thinking Trump will be elected
>>68315776
>most illegals come here legally
You are fucking retarded aren't you?
>>68315607
A 50 foot wall would be so extreme... we're not trying to keep out a T-Rex.
But yeah, CNN totally forgot to give numbers for making it 10 feet higher. It needs to be 30 feet at least. Mexico will pay for it.
>>68316496
Trump will build the wall and he quoted 10 to 12 billion dollars. It will be paid for by tariffs and/or a mandatory 4% fee on money wired back to Mexico. In America we have things called natural resources we don't have to pay out the ass for shit like you fucking marsupials. Now run along back to Uluru and drink yourself into the dream time via petrol you Abo cunt.
>>68316584
Not enough people have run out of sympathy. The people who haven't would revolt.
Best case scenario, you have a civil war. Worst case scenario, Trump gets overthrown, the machine guns get taken down, and the situation returns to as it is now.
>>68316496
Mexico gets 25 billion a year from garnished remittances alone. That's more then they make from oil.
That's not even including the welfare spending and other social programs being abused by this illegal immigration problem.
The wall price tag could be doubled, just to entertain your argument, and it would STILL be a smart long term investment.
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>>68313498
here you glorious bastard have some specifics
>Illegal immigration costs U.S. taxpayers about $113 billion a year at the federal, state and local level. The bulk of the costs — some $84 billion — are absorbed by state and local governments.
http://www.fairus.org/publications/the-fiscal-burden-of-illegal-immigration-on-united-states-taxpayers
>mfw all the illegals in Mexico and in the USA wanting to build wall as they see it as a somewhat long good paying job
>>68316496
>that doesn't take into account any of the labour costs whatsoever
>Who are these southern states going to get to do all these labour intensive jobs? I imagine most of these kinds of jobs there would be performed by low paid illegals so good luck with labour costs when you want to kick them all out of your country (rightfully so mind you)
Engineers in the military already know how to build this shit, at least walls similar to what Israel has (which is precast concrete slabs) and they're already getting paid by the government.
They won't have much to do after ISIS is kaput and we get out of the Middle East.
>Lastly how the fuck does Trump think that Mexico will pay for the wall?
No more foreign aid, tariff's on goods (58 billion trade deficit), extra costs on visas, take/tax some of the money going out of the US (Mexico makes about 28 billions dollars from people working in the US and sending it into Mexico).
Or he could just pay for it outright, and the money we would save by deporting Mexican illegals and preventing more Mexican illegals from coming over and costing money (About 84 - 150 billion a year), would more than make up the 10-14 billion needed to build the entire wall.
5 feet deep is most definitely not enough to stop tunneling. Coyotes earn thousands of dollars for each person they smuggle, and cartels earn tens of thousands for every hundredweight they get through the border. They could probably afford to make tunnels of up to ten thousand dollars for smuggling people and several millions to drugs.
You will need to go at least 20 feet deep and install some kind of alarm. Meaning twice the cost.
>>68317033
When you turn off a leaky faucet there's still a drip. Quit thinking about the few that will get through and start thinking about the millions who will get stopped.
>>68313330
>Wat is taxing money transfers to Latin America?
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2271455/Revealed-How-immigrants-America-sending-120-BILLION-struggling-families-home.html&ved=0ahUKEwi5pKfdwtPLAhUC9GMKHY4UA6AQFggoMAA&usg=AFQjCNGSxc5MLVEIt27vFjxi5L4pAgEXtg&sig2=z_p22HgUfOn6U9-U12o-4g
Or you know maby our greatest allies could let us redirect their 3billion in aid to help build the fist third of it.
>>68316897
cant wait for the rage after trump wins the election
big fights i can see it coming now
gonna be comfy times boys, comfy times.
>>68312879
Considering how much illegals cost the California healthcare and school system as it is (which is a fraction of the cost of the wall), I'd say that it's 100% financially viable.
>>68316496
Oh fuck off with your "labour" you live on an island, get back to us when you have immigration issues. Last I checked no one is trying to illegally immigrate to your inbred penal colony
>>68316468
Not again with the trolley problem.
>>68313071
You're alright, leaf.
>>68313731
True that. Just to set up an Amusement Park with my friends takes a few hours worth of diesel. 9 to 5 everyday will cost a lot of money in fuel and half the guys will stand around smoking cigarettes all day.
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>>68314118
You guy's don't seem to get it. Mexico is paying for the wall. It won't cost the U.S. anything.
>>68313834
Not any where that simple tard...
Earth moving leveling and grubbing is terrible for the health of machines.
One factor your not taking into account that this would be a federal job, so you have retirement points plus most of the border is in the middle of a desert, hazard pay...
A wall would be an ineffective joke. Only thing it would do beyond hurting relations would be giving the cartels more power and profit.
Billions in black market drug trade = cartels simply persuading mining engineers to build even more tunnels
10 billion is a but a drop in the federal budget.
>>68313517
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/08/08/illegal-alien-crime-accounts-for-over-30-of-murders-in-some-states/
>B-BUT THERES NO PROOOOBLEM! DRUMPF IS DUMB!
>>68312879
Wow so all CNN did was prove what trump said?
He has said many times that it'd be 10 billion and look at that 10 billion
Mexico will pay
MAGA
>>68315731
Anyone got that pic we made together? You know, the one with the nuclear mine and everything had to be made nuclear mine proof.
>>68316712
You're a fucking Canadian what do you know? people that rape the most in Japan are fucking Canadians we should deport those maple syrup eating fucks back to the cuckland.
>>68317314
It's not a problem. You just build a wall. Build it tall, and build it deep. Patrol it 4x per day, and call in a team to patch any holes. We already have the equipment, and the personnel with the national guard.
>>68317033
sensors are cheap, all it takes is a vibration sensor, solar cell, and ad-hoc wifi chip, $10 bucks or less in large volumes
>>68314458
My sides..im crying. Trumps statements like biblical passages.
>>68317291
Thousands of people try to illegally immigrate here you retarded fuck we just don't let them because it's one of the benefits of being an island, we have a naturally built wall.
>>68316834
Natural resources are literally the reason why our country didn't tank as hard as you and the rest of the world during the GFC, it's crazy how little alot of you actually know about straya.
We should look at other borders too.
>>68317703
That's not how Federal contracts work =)
lowest bidder this means we would have the shittiest sensors possible if we had to buy large numbers of them, and there are Animals on the border so deer cows fugging possums will set that shit off
>>68312879
It's actually half that price if you exclude the area where the natural terrain make it impassable by car or foot
Lets make a fucking canal while we are at it. Completely separated by water and wall.
>>68312879
We give Israel 4.5 billion a year. we spend 1 billion a pc on airplanes.
we spent 800 billion bailing out the banks.
We can afford 20 billion for a 30 foot tall wall. Maybe 40 foot. It is too easy to buy a 20 foot ladder
>>68315731
>sensor activated auto turrets and lights
holy fuck this is brutal, i can picture a 20 mm autocannon with a lidar sensor and an infared camera that alerts a operator and will tack and light the fuck up any living thing it sees
if we have self driving car i'm sure we could build thousands of Mexican terminators
It could also destroy pretty much any light vehicle and aircraft too, although I'd definitely add some AA missile systems too
>>68317906
That's a DMZ..... The ignorance here his incredible
>>68312879
This better not be the wall, that looks like shit. The wall needs to have integrated guard towers and be wide enough and strong enough to support a full sized (American made) truck on top of it.
Additionally parts of the wall should be made large enough to be barracks to house the large number of border patrol that will be on the wall. There needs to be at least 10 men per mile on duty, and they need to be fresh so only 8 hour shifts. This leaves us with 60k border patrol, an addition of 40k new jobs.
The wall needs to be better than the great wall of china, honestly it should not be that big of a deal to beat what a bunch of prehistoric gooks did.
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>>68317032
nevermind
>>68317637
Nah I've heard too many stories of Jap girls getting raped/robbed by niggers.
>>68312960
Carlosfrommagicschoolbus.jpg
>>68316185
>what is ICE
Currently ICE is wearing kid gloves with all the regulation tape around them. The DON would remove the Tape. Eisenhower's ICE was able to remove 1 million illegals in 3 months.
>>68313968
cringe
>>68318027
>The ignorance here his incredible
Haha
>Don't like something
>heh ignorance
tip it harder faggot.
>>68317703
This is what they have been trying to do for the past decade. Its called the "virtual fence", and its built by Raytheon, and it still doesn't fucking work.
A wall is the simplest solution.
>>68317637
Ching chon chow too friend.
>>68317820
Wait, thousands or millions? Irrelevant, I can see that you are in possession of an illegal butter knife. Your thousands may seem like millions because your gov'ment has disarmed its populace but don't get all proud of your thousands of immigrants
>>68312879
>give 150 Billion to Iran to inspect their own facilities to make sure they aren't making nukes.
>oh no 10 Billion is way too much to spend on some stupid wall to block Illegal immigrants that cost the US 70 Billion each year! What a dumb dumb!
>>68312879
>20 feet
is this a joke
he said it would be 95 feet and added 10 on top of that
that's 5x as much wall
literally $50bn+
>>68318039
> beat what a bunch of prehistoric gooks
Nope the walls were merely security blankets
>guarded constantly
Bitch do you even know how the fugging federal government works?
Retirement points ring a bell?
State's are forbidden from fucking with international affairs
So that would be %100 federal employee gaining retirement points every hour of every
day.
You clueless trumptards are nothing more than human garbage unworthy of breath
>>68315833
that little village looks real comfy tbqh fampai
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