1. create an EU army
2. create an EU finance ministry with a real budget
3. pressure all non-Euro states to adopt the Euro as soon as possible
4. control its borders
5. create a European financial capital in Frankfurt
6. reform the EU treaties without the Brits pitching about "ever closer union"
7. exert influence on a world stage
8. make the EU more competitive
9. make EU decision processes more transparent
10. have a directly elected EU president who heads the EU commission
Sounds like the Brexit is best for everyone, hope it goes well!
don't you have an immigrant to fuck, merkel?
>implying anyone but the Germans want any of that
>>68110973
But I don't want to pay for all your plans, Mannfried.
>>68110973
>all the things you just said
Europe has had 30 years to do all of that and has failed to make any real progress on any of them.
30, fucking, years.
11. Descend into civil war and economic collapse
>>68111111
Checked
>>68110973
>Germany
Yeah go fuck yourself, ahmed.
>>68110973
>frankfurt
haha!
hahahaha!
You will have to be skeakier than that germanbro, you will have to put the economic capital in a shithole instead, like greece
>>68111111
noice
Anglos must die that the Aryan race can live
>>68111127
Your economy is the size of a small shoe. Your German overlord will foot the bill.
Btw, that isn't a dyke you've got your finger in...
>>68110973
Germany will demand better budget control
Greece will demand more handouts
France will demand to be the leader
Sweden will demand that everyone learn bull prepping...
Eastern countries will accept any money they are handed and side with the US at every opportunity.
They still get along better than Asian countries tho.
>>68111111
check'd and rekt
/thread
>>68110973
TRADE WAR AGAINST THE BRITS NOW!
NEVER FORGET 1807!
>>68110973
Why you want an EU army?
All it will do is protect Merkel and her refugee and attack anyone that disagree with her politics.That's why it's a bad thing.
>>68110973
>create EU army.
No. Fuck your corporate assimilation shit, fuck your soviet nazi commie ways and fuck your Union.
EU was a mistake and the only ones smart enough to prepare for the storm were the eternal britbongs.
>germans ACTUALLY believe that germany will be anything but the brown man's toilet in the next five years
>>68110973
never going to happen.
EU will falter and crumble and every reasonable person will rejoice.
>>68111111
You just got sexes nigger
>>68111111
>>implying anyone but the Germans want any of that
What is the EU if not Germany?
Ok, without joking, pretty much everyone in the EU (except for the Brits) want those things.
>>68111111
Witnessed and seconded.
>>68110973
Kill the traitor.
>>68111566
>pretty much everyone in the EU
>>68111142
>Europe has had 30 years to do all of that and has failed to make any real progress on any of them.
Because of Brits torpedoing every single of these points. No joke.
All hail the Democratic Socialist 4th Reich.
All those who oppose shall bend the knee or end up like Greece.
You Germans are a fucking joke. Obsessed with taking over Europe. The difference is this time no one will collude with you and everyone knows the plan before you even put it in motion.
>>68111309
your country has nearly no industrial sector. All you can rely on is the financial sector. And it will go down the shitter if your country leaves.
>>68110973
1. dissolve
>>68110973
USSR 2.0?
>Posting a Turk roach
Seems about right
>We leave EU
>EU collapses
>European countries actually able to do things for themselves
>German economy collapses in the next 5 years due to shitskins and no forced trade with EU members
Sounds good to me tbqhwy
>>68111253
>You will have to be skeakier than that germanbro, you will have to put the economic capital in a shithole instead, like greece
London can work the British market, reach out to Russia (your bros), to Africa (economy is as large as the Netherlands), compete with New York for business in South America and compete with the EU and America in China and India and South East Asia.
I don't see London to be that amazing in the future. Frankfurt is starting to boom already with lots and lots and lots of new buildings being built in preparation to take over.
>>68110973
0. Fall Apart and form new union together with Brits without the burocratic bullshit and Deutschlands attempt to create their own Soviet Union
>>68111111
>>68111111
>Implying all germans want this.
U wot m8
>>68111454
Merkel is done.
The next German leader will be a strong man and he will get Germany and Europe back on track. Germany has changed and is getting out of the grips of the leftist-cucked feminist women of Germany (the are like 10% of the population).
>>68111566
>greece wanting Euro
>>68111111
Witnessed
>>68110973
reading this made me cringe
>>68110973
Reminder that this man was instrimential in the founding thoughts behind the European Union
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_von_Coudenhove-Kalergi
"The man of the future will be of mixed race. Today's races and classes will gradually disappear owing to the vanishing of space, time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future, similar in its appearance to the Ancient Egyptians, will replace the diversity of peoples with a diversity of individuals."
>>68111111
Fucking witnessed.
>>68110973
OP IS A FAGGOT
With the rise of Poo In Loo, the Commonwealth is stronger than the EU
DEAL WITH IT HANZ PREP THE BULL AND DIE CRYING
>>68111111
I do want it.
>>68111111
Sex doesn't lie
why dont you just let the qt refugees in?
>>68111697
Try the fourth reich and the second coming of jesus
>>68111111
>implying anyone but the leaders of the Germans want any of that
Please send help.
>>68110973
If there is no eu you can do all those things good luck
What countries are likely to follow the UK and hold referendums of their own should we leave the EU?
>>68110973
I fucking hate Germans and the EU.
>>68110973
LEL
2 - that would fuck the weaker states
3 - that would fuck the weaker states and their economies
4 - top cuck germany
7 - implying the US/Russia/China would allow the EU to just become more influential
8 - read 7
9 - never gonna happen
10 - implying that would work
>>68111986
>why dont you just let the qt refugees in?
We will, we are already.
>>68111111
Yeah let's give the socialist feminist bastards at the helm a large army and total control.
What could go wrong.
>>68112095
netherlands for sure
>>68110973
every single respond is just NO.
How are you that retarded ?
11. invite all the shitskins to army so they could easily overtake the whole continent
>>68111649
>And it will go down the shitter if your country leaves.
I hope it does, mate. I want to see the UK break up. I want to see the Scots demand to leave the UK. If the UK votes to leave the EU, it will end the UK.
I want to see these Tory cunts lose their little playpen, their little flag and their national anthem.
Fuck 'em. Fuck 'em all.
>>68112306
>every single respond is just NO.
>How are you that retarded ?
Great arguments, you just say "NO" and then end with an ad hominem.
Frenchie, that is not how discussions work.
>>68110973
sounds good OP
i am on board
>>68111566
Deluded. Anti-EU sentiment is spreading like wildfire all across Europe. Once the UK leaves the house of cards will fall.
https://youtu.be/O0YODG0NsSE
>This Germcuck is posting shit skins
Why do they do this?
>>68111939
Ah yes, the poor countries that don't make a net contribution and are too poor for the refugees to want to go there. Of course you want it. Western Europe does not.
>>68111731
We are talking about the brexit allowing germany to centralise the EU's finance in frankfurt, the rest of euorpe would revolt if you tried this hence me saying you will have to be sneakier than that. Building new buildings sounds like you are counting your chickens before they hatch.
>>68112417
>sounds good OP
>i am on board
/thread/
Germany is shit right now from what I've heard with all the refugees raping women left and right and causing destruction.
>>68112448
>Once the UK leaves the house of cards will fall.
The EU will make sure that the UK economy goes into depression, that foreign investment tanks and that everyone in Europe sees that there are job losses and economic problems in the UK following an OUT vote. Why? Because the EU wants to deter other countries from leaving, so it makes sense to make sure the Brexit story is a really bad one... not to mention that if the economic downturn in the UK is really hard with lots of job losses, there might be massive pressure for a new referendum to vote back IN to the EU in 2018 or 2019.
>>68112593
>the rest of euorpe would revolt if you tried this hence me saying you will have to be sneakier than that.
The rest of the EU has no say in that. In order for London to have access to the EU financial single market requires that every single EU state (other than the UK) agrees to it in case of a Brexit.
Not a single country, not even Norway or Switzerland have full access to the EU single financial market.
>united EU
no
you fucks already tried that shit in 1914 and 1939 and both times it hilarious failed.
>>68112702
You fucking shithead, the EU isn't on our side. UK wants freedom, and you stand by the sidelines, cheering the EU on to extort a country into staying with this racketeering scheme?
"4. control its borders"
>borders >control [select one]
Germany is the only country that profits from EU.
>>68112681
>Fox News viewer reporting in...
>control its borders
by abolishing them?
>>68112849
>cheering the EU on to extort a country into staying with this racketeering scheme?
I want the UK to leave. Badly.
What I am saying is that once the UK leaves, all EU countries will try to get the best deal possible for themselves... and NOT the best deal for the UK. The best thing would be to get as much business from London into the EU as possible. Plus, if the UK were to do BETTER outside the EU, a lot of companies would say "then let's leave to" - as a result all EU states will try to exploit the situation as much as possible and weaken the UK as much as possible, so all people in the EU see that the UK's exit is actually bad for jobs and the economy in the UK.
>>68112970
He's $100% right, all women now to some degree fear going outside alone, expecially when it's dark. Literally all of them changed their behaviour while outside to be much more alert and cautious.
>>68111111
sexytime!
PS: fuck u krauts, china stronk, EU are weak lamefags
>>68112500
>Merkel's and Hollande's faces
Based Farage.
>>68113092
> if the UK were to do BETTER outside the EU
Then we should leave too, so we have it better, right?
Nooo, let's just drag the UK down instead. Fucking crab in the bucket mentality, go die in boiling water you piece of shit.
>>68110973
>all this happens
>EU Parliament becomes relevant
>Turkey gets membership, so does Bosnia and Albania eventually
>Pan-European Islamist party formed
>becomes single biggest bloc in EU Parliament
sounds great!
>>68113092
>lets get all the money from London
>lol look how shit London is guys
>why do people dislike us.
Your the reason adolf rised you blood thirsty kike
>>68110973
What about we all go back to our national sovereignty and erase this abomination that has lived way too long already ? I want my 1 Franc baguette back. Now it's 1 euro, 1 fucking euro equal 7 Francs. 15 years ago I could have had seven baguettes with one euro. Tell me we didn't get screwed I dare you you cocksucking jew.
>>68110973
Fuck the EU, fuck your currency, fuck your treaties, fuck your commission, fuck you Germany.
Austria-Hungary alliance now and lets enter a strategic partnership with Russia too.
>>68110973
Nope. Many countries will follow Brexit. Germany got too greedy too fast. Nobody in EU wants to give up their independence to Germany.
Fuck EU.
>>68113283
>>lets get all the money from London
>>lol look how shit London is guys
>>why do people dislike us.
Are you saying this is not rational to get the best deal for Germany and the rest of the EU once the UK leaves? Are you saying the German government should work in the interest of the UK instead?
Are you drunk?
>>68111566
nope!
>create an EU army
made up of whom? limp-wristed, oestrogen filled metrosexual eurodance loving commie faggots? or Syrians and Turks?
>>68113187
>Then we should leave too, so we have it better, right?
Yes, but the EU elites strongly believe (and I know it is true) that a disbanded EU will be economically weaker than a closely integrated EU.
Hence the EU must do everything in its power to fuck the UK economy after an UK exit vote. And there are many things that the EU can do to create uncertainty and stop foreign investment into the UK following the vote... to the point that a deep recession ends up having the BRits want a new referendum to actually remain in the EU.
We did it before with Ireland (twice) and Denmark and it works. I do not see why we shouldn't do it again.
The Brits and their Brexit are the only ones who can save Europe. If they leave, it will trigger EU's disband and then, we can start to recover.
>EU army
most NATO pact countries can't make the NATO quota, uniting them wouldn't fix that.
The only thing the EU can do after the bonglanders leave is disband and cut their losses.
>>68110973
Eu is dead
>>68111111
I was going to say I do but the sex has spoken
>>68113293
>Now it's 1 euro, 1 fucking euro equal 7 Francs.
One Brötchen still only costs 13 cents around here, so less than 1 Francs. Looks like it is actually the Frenchie bakeries fuck you guys, not the EU.
>>68113618
POO
IN
LOO
>>68113517
So what you are saying is, it might actually be better for Germany to leave the EU, but because then all the EU unelected kikes would lose thei power, we should keep the UK down?
FUCK YOU
>>68111813
>strong man
Right, that's why you're all so hot and bothered about AfD dyke haircut lady. The only time in your life you'll ever see Germany ruled by a man is under US military occupation, again, when we have to team up with Russia to clean up the mess you've made of Europe, again, except this time we're gonna brainwash you with renazification.
>>68113293
I want the Schilling back, what a based currency that was.
>>68113092
>europe is united behind merkel
The delusion is dangerous, and amusing.
>>68113404
>>are you saying that it is not rational to get the best deal for German and the rest of the us
>>Germany
>gets the best deal by raiding another sovereign nation
Touch my country m8, we will make 1945 look like a wet dream you massive jew.
>>68110973
fuck you Hans, EU will die
>>68111621
So we're the saviors that Europe needs right now.
>>68111111
>111111
>>68113787
yep
only a naive cunt can think in such silly dimensions.
>>68110973
Who is she?
>>68110973
Most importantly, it can fucking die and disappear. Abomination should never have existed at all. Fuck off with your america funded reich and fuck off with islamist fuhrer merkel.
>>68113714
>So what you are saying is, it might actually be better for Germany to leave the EU, but because then all the EU unelected kikes would lose thei power, we should keep the UK down?
No, learn to read.
1. we can make the UK to turn into recession if it leaves, however, we could also make the UK better off it leaves if we granted them access to the single market without it having to pay money in.
2. But everyone would be worse off without the EU existing at all
3. Germany is probably the country which, alongside Eastern European countries and the Baltic countries, which has profited the most from the EU. Leaving the EU would be an unmitigated disaster for Germany. Think back to when we were the sick man of Europe with 10% unemployment. That would be nothing against what would happen if the EU disbanded.
1-10, not going to happen
We are wise to you schlomo
>>68113942
>Who is she?
A German Syrian refugee qt.3.14.
>>68113942
some refugee syrian slut,
want start in Olympiad as swimmer,
life in Germany and will make refugees proud.
She deserves some rape from a german guy
>>68110973
I want this Union to crash.
>>68111111
Praise KEK and based brit, his herald and wielder of repeating digits
Things EU will do once UK leaves:
1. create EU army
2. create an EU finance ministry with a real budget
3. pressure all non-Euro states to adopt the Euro as soon as possible
4. open its borders
5. tax all financial transactions at 20%
6. destroy sovereignty of EU nations
7. take France's seat at the UN, give billions more to Turkey
8. unlimited regulations and bureaucracy, full on protectionism within the EU
9. end the little transparency EU has, make more types of google searches illegal
10. have a directly elected EU president who heads the EU commission
>>68110973
See you at the Grebbeberg then.
>>68114075
> turkroaches openly making shill threads
Can't wait for the civil war.
>>68111111
We will comply to all your demands, oh mighty sexes bearer
>>68113973
>everyone would be worse off without the eu
NO. Poor countries and probably germany would be worse off. Rich countries would be way better off. Just admit you are fucking leeches that are draining successful countries of their hard earned money.
>>68114130
>4. open its borders
Why? We just closed them.
>5. tax all financial transactions at 20%
Why? The FTT has been a dead cow for a while. And it would have been 0.01% or so.
>6. destroy sovereignty of EU nations
Why? How?
>7. take France's seat at the UN, give billions more to Turkey
France's seat at the UN is for France.
You also give billions to Turkey's fugees.
>8. unlimited regulations and bureaucracy, full on protectionism within the EU
and that is why the EU's Commission is smaller than the counsel of Leeds?
>9. end the little transparency EU has, make more types of google searches illegal
The EU is probably the most transparent democratic institution in the whole of Europe. Is Downing Street televising its deliberations of government ministers?
>>68112702
>The EU will make sure that the UK economy goes into depression
i dont think you understand how the world works.
>>68111491
Based Spaniard
>>68111111
Hmmm...those digits dont lie.
Fuck you Merkel, German govt., ruining Europe like this
>>68111566
>pretty much everyone in the EU
First muh battlegroups and then this?
Get fucked, German politics is cancer and you deserve to be buried under Asylanten.
>>68114312
>Rich countries would be way better off.
It doesn't work like this. Trade increases GDP. It is a win-win. If you disband the EU, you also re-erect non-tariff trade barriers, which reduces trade. I am not even talking about services, trade in services which is more and more important can pretty much not happen at all through free trade treaties, it needs a rule setting organization such as the EU.
>>68110973
>EU army
Kill yourself. No one will die for the kikes from european commision
>>68110973
Uh, the EU simply needs to fall. Fuck the economy, we just need every country to become independently directed again so they can start acting in their own interests.
>>68111491
This right here
UP YOURS GOYMONEY
>>68110973
EU is a Marxist Roman Catholic organization, fool.
>>68110973
>11. Collapse
>>68111566
No the dont you dumbfuck.
>>68113517
>Fuck the UK economy after an UK exit vote
Hans, please the Frogs tried this before and it ended rather badly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_System
>>68110973
>1. create an EU army
No fucking way. We already had "brotherly help" in 1968 Czechoslovakia. I don't want "allied" troops on my soil when West gets "deeply concerned" about "state of democracy in Poland".
>2. create an EU finance ministry with a real budget
It will make rich get richer and poor get poorer, as such finance minister will probably be national from one of "core" EU countries, so one can expect that lion share of budget will be diverted towards his/her "home", while at same time ignoring needs of peripherial countries.
>3. pressure all non-Euro states to adopt the Euro as soon as possible
Newsflash: People in those countries DON'T WANT Euro. Even those that weren't able to negotiate opt-out have estimated date of introducing Euro as "when we're ready", ie. in Poland's case it's somewhere between 2114 and 2216.
>4. control its borders
Bullshit. UK has nothing to do with common frontiers, as they aren't even in Schengen zone.
>5. create a European financial capital in Frankfurt
And how is that good thing for anyone outside Germany? Why should we care?
>6. reform the EU treaties without the Brits pitching about "ever closer union"
WE DON'T WANT EVER CLOSER UNION, you dumb fuck. We signed a deal and are happy with current state of affairs; if anything we'd even tone it down a bit.
>7. exert influence on a world stage
Somehow, losing 5th biggest country in the world in terms of GDB and nuclear-armed state with connections to many other Commonwealth countries will be somehow benefical to Europe? Also, I'm not sure if I want to be under the kind of infulence that Germany wants to exert? You can prep the bull all you want, but leave us out of that.
>8. make the EU more competitive
[citation needed]
>9. make EU decision processes more transparent
Obviously, kicking out devils' advocate out of circlejerk of Germany and France, will somehow improve transparency for bystanders...
>>68111111
Witnessed
>>68113517
I thought hitler got rid of you guys.
>>68112095
I remeber seeing some poll on a news site asking people if they would like to leave EU. About 80% percent were yes, so if we held such referendum, its pretty possile we would leave
>>68110973
>1. create an EU army
Why?
>2. create an EU finance ministry with a real budget
Yeah
>3. pressure all non-Euro states to adopt the Euro as soon as possible
No
>4. control its borders
Yeah
>5. create a European financial capital in Frankfurt
Lol no, go fuck yourself.
>6. reform the EU treaties without the Brits pitching about "ever closer union"
Idc
>7. exert influence on a world stage
lmao
>8. make the EU more competitive
lmaox2
>9. make EU decision processes more transparent
lmaox3
>10. have a directly elected EU president who heads the EU commission
Top kex
Just commit suicide, fag. It would be best for me, you and EU.
>>68112361
Your Scottish then.
>>68110973
you forgot:
11. Import more refugees for the ending of racism and the continued support for the European integration project*
>*Charlemagne Prize, Kalergi. Look it up nigger.
>>68112702
Yes, taking out the second biggest economy of the EU, one of the largest contributors, and the financial center of the world will only make the failing EU Stronger! It's just the stimulus it needs!
>>68115230
>and the financial center of the world
NYC has never been in the EU, m8.
>>68115331
nyc is not the financial center of the world
>>68114719
>Hans, please the Frogs tried this before and it ended rather badly.
So you are saying the EU will not try to make sure no other EU state leaves?
Are you so sure the EU will just stand by watching the UK doing better outside the EU having full access to the EU single market?
>>68115331
London is considered the currency center, NYC for everything else.
>>68115448
>nyc is not the financial center of the world
Actually it is.
London is a distant number 2 rivaled by Hong Kong and Singapore.
>>68115539
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Financial_Centres_Index
>>68115517
>London is considered the currency center, NYC for everything else.
Or in other words, NYC is the financial center of the world, London pretends to be important.
Currency trading is done all across the world. You don't need a financial center for it.
>>68113404
you disgusting roach. What happened to European solidarity?
>>68111111
BREXIT CONFIRMED
>>68115600
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Financial_Centres_Index
It is compiled and published twice a year by Z/Yen Group. Z/Yen is a commercial think-tank, consultancy and venture firm headquartered in the City of London.
Sure thing, Hans, that must be the most objective list ever...
>>68111566
>He ultrasonically thinks that there is a single country that doesn't use the Euro that wants to use the Euro
>>68115720
New York and London swap places as no. 1 every year or so
>>68115539
I fucking despise Germans. Lashing out without any information desperately trying to get one over us, revisionist cucks.
>>68111111
BRITAIN WILL LEAVE THE EU
PRAISE KEK!
>>68110973
Seriously can't wait till we leave.
I know your fucking pig headed crazy leader will give german citizenship to all your new rapefugee arrivals and then we have the threat of them flocking to the UK.
Fuck that, I rather we have an shittier economy then having Germany's scum enter our country and fucking infest themselves even more and we can't get rid of them because the EU are European hating vermin.
>>68115720
> based on over 29,000 financial centre assessments from an online questionnaire together with over 100 indices from organisations such as the World Bank, the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) and the Economist Intelligence Unit
>>68115625
>What happened to European solidarity?
Once Brits vote to leave, you are our economic enemy... and even more so, we need to make sure no one else wants to leave, so it is absolutely paramount that the UK does a lot worse economically after the vote, at least in the short and mid-term.
>>68115819
Britain, multi-culti policies should be the last thing on your mind considering you've been blacked way before Germany.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CmqAGwFEVM&feature=youtu.be
>>68115892
>even more so, we need to make sure no one else wants to leave
EU confirmed as sect.
>>68115790
>New York and London swap places as no. 1 every year or so
Yeah sure, in your dreams. London is not on the level as NYC.
>>68115826
You do know that if they weigh these factors subjectively, they can manipulate the ranking, right? Which they do, because they have an interest to make London and commonwealth centers such as Singapore and Hong Kong to look better and arch-enemy places such as Frankfurt to look worse.
It is just like the university rankings. Germany apparently has a lot worse universities than the UK, but the economy still does a lot better and Germany has the best engineers.
All these rankings are BS. The outcome is what counts.
hahaha fucking german cuck
worst of all is the fact that you fucked up France 60 years ago and we had to swoop in and save them
fast forward to now and France is buddy buddy with Germany and completely forgotten what we did for them
fuck you France you horrible frogs and your horrible food, fucking disgusting socialist traitors and lets not forget cowards
>viva la revolution
meanwhile we had the damm busters fucking shit up you where bitching over a glass of piss vinegar wine
>>68111111
Kek has spoken
>>68115892
they're still going to be in efta
they're not really going to be our enemy in any way
and lets not forget that we fucked you in the ass twice Germany,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTv_4DPQUnQ
your airforce was pathetic at best
>>68111111
FOURTH REICH BTFO
>>68115480
>So you are saying the EU will not try to make sure no other EU state leaves?
Fucking hell you Krauts are power mad aren't you? How are you going to do that, with your new 'EU Army' or using the economic leverage of the Euro to destroy a nations economy like in Greece or Ireland?
If the EU ever did anything like this then I think NATO or the Anglosphere might have to save Continental Europe for the third time in 100 years.
>>68110973
> 5. Frankfurt
Your ambitions aren't fooling me, frau Merkel.
>>68116080
>we had to swoop in and save them
>we
You misspelled America
Remember, you pussies left everything at Dunkirk when you were running away like terrified little girls
>>68116080
>>68116294
>what is russia
you were not fucking important
stop acting as if you were
What they will do with eu citizens who already have job and pay taxes? Send home?
>>68116017
They surprisingly take the same sort of view as Islam. 'You better not leave, we will make life rough..'
>>68115991
Whataboutism at its finest.
Did i mention we didn't have a problem? If anything, thats a bigger reason to leave. We have it bad enough, don't need German's vermin problem to come over to us.
>>68112958
RARE
A
R
E
The Netherlands do as well. We're traders due to Joo blood influx from Portugal and Spain long long ago.
>>68116078
>Yeah sure, in your dreams. London is not on the level as NYC
But it is. It just doesn't suit your narrative.
>>68116346
nobody wants to kick out productive members of society, they'd simply get a permit
>>68116294
dont forget when you where selling weapons to both sides you fucking pussy communist
we fought off the entire european landmass virtually by ourself for 1.9 world wars, then you isolationist fags decided you could make some money in the final months
>>68116276
>Your ambitions aren't fooling me, frau Merkel.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12156084/Frankfurt-will-come-for-the-City-after-Brexit-top-diplomats-warn.html
“We should not think that Frankfurt or others would be sentimental in seeking to challenge the City’s prominence,” they write. “Indeed, without reforms such as those proposed we could be vulnerable to unwelcome European infringements on our own financial affairs.”
Speaking separately, Sir Nigel, who served as British Ambassador to America in Washington, warned that British jobs had already been put at risk by previous attempts at changing the rules governing financial markets.
“We have already seen past attempts by the European Central Bank to ensure certain transactions denominated in Euros take place within the Eurozone, which would of course have hit jobs across our financial services industry,” he told The Telegraph.
“Without reforms such as those proposed by the Prime Minister, therefore, our financial services sector could be vulnerable to European financial forces that, we must remember, are our competitors as well as our partners.”
Britain holds all the cards when it comes to negotiating with the EU. Trade is in our favour since the EU exports so much here, militarily they need us because the US is fed up of paying for Europe's defence.
The continental economies, cultures and demographics are all in rapid retreat.
This isn't even Europe as we know it that we're voting on. It's the new Eurabia which will collapse with or without UK membership.
There is no downside to boarding a lifeboat from a sinking ship.
>>68116340
you need another treaty of versaile, your fatehrland is now full of poo in loos that rape your women, your entire history is a giant failure
>>68116371
> whataboutism
Oh lawdy, another BBC/Guardian victim.
Let me guess, Putin is the evil white male and we should all prepare for a Russian invasion as well.
I hope you don't need to be reminded that London is about to elect a muslim mayor and that's happening with our without Germany.
>>68116481
Surprised you didn't mention this already http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35818997
>>68116251
>How are you going to do that, with your new 'EU Army' or using the economic leverage of the Euro to destroy a nations economy like in Greece or Ireland?
By showing the people of the EU that leaving the EU results in job losses, an economic downturn, a halt in foreign investors, market uncertainty and lots of other problems.
One again, assume that the UK votes OUT and 2 months later everyone sees that the UK is about to do a lot better than in the EU and has full access to the EU single market. Why should Sweden, Finland, Denmark, the Netherlands etc. not say "oh well, if that is the case, we want to leave to"?
>>68116340
>>68116340
>what is russia
A pile of corrupt shit run by kleptomaniac kike/communists the really dont give a fuck about it?
But thats just my opinion
>>68116197
>they're still going to be in efta
EFTA? Jesus, Hans. No. The UK isn't neutral.
You mean the EEA? No, they will not. They will be OUTSIDE as in Canada or Turkey outside.
>>68116340
Russia had nothing to do with France you shitlicker. Jesus Christ, even the Nazis now buy into the 'Russians did everything' meme.
>>68116346
>What they will do with eu citizens who already have job and pay taxes? Send home?
No, they can probably stay... unless they lose their job or rely on welfare, then they will likely be deported.
>>68116371
>They surprisingly take the same sort of view as Islam. 'You better not leave, we will make life rough..'
And that usually works. How many people have left Islam that you know of?
>>68116078
>such as Frankfurt
fuck off, you're nowhere near 'arch-enemy' status, as retarded as that sounds.
>>68110973
Keep dreaming Sinbadhanz. Without the UK the EU will loose a major contributor. And who the hell would use the euro out of choice? Not even it's own people. So we will be free once more. Your butt hurt has only just begun germistan.
>>68116340
Yeah all we did was supply the money, tanks, trucks, arms, ammo, raw material, plan operation overlord, design all the airplanes, oversee the invasion, command the entire AEF, invent the atomic bomb, break the codes, design the bomb sights, provide the aircraft carriers, smuggle over troops, airdrop supplies, invent synthetic rubber, oh and be put in charge of all allied troops because they were fucking up so badly
But yeah....other than supplying everything, financing everything, being in charge of everything and running everything we did nothing. Nevermind that the war was a stalemate for literally years until the moment American troops set foot on Europe and steamrolled into Germany within a year of landing.
No no...it was the drunken commies who were still fighting over a pile of bricks 1000 miles away that totally won....
>>68116507
>Britain holds all the cards when it comes to negotiating with the EU. Trade is in our favour since the EU exports so much here
Oh that meme again.
Funny you would mention it. Guess what, under WTO rules Germany can export cars and machinery to the UK, no problem, even without any agreement with the UK.
Meanwhile without a very special agreement in favor of the UK, the UK will have 0 access to the single markets in services and especially financial services in the EU.
>>68116810
Its not hard to leave a religious cult
Just stop going to their mosques,churches,synogoges whatever and youre free
>>68116610
All those things you've listed as Project Fear. Sure the Brexit supporters say there could be some short term pain but virtually every economist says the long term prospects will massively outweigh this.
The EU isn't growing, economic development is stagnating across the continent and the EU solution is to implement more red tape from bureaucrats who have never run a business in their life.
I could easily see Sweden, Finland, Denmark, the Netherlands vote to leave as well plus countries in Eastern Europe and maybe even Greece and Portual.
Maybe they will join our new British Commonwealth Free Trade Union?
>>68116886
as classically 'merifat as that post is, and as incorrect as some bits are, basically this.
>>68112361
So long, bon voyage and fuck off.
England doesn't need you and England doesn't want your broke arse dragging us down.
>>68112360
underrated
>>68116577
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35818997
The London Stock Exchange Frankfurt Stock Exchange merger is pretty irrelevant when it comes to financial markets. Stock exchanges are just companies for trading - who owns them is pretty irrelevant with regard to access to the financial markets of different economic areas.
>>68116886
top kek, you came late to the European theater only for fear of westward Soviet conquest
>>68117063
I was hoping you'd overrate it. Shame.
>>68116481
The ECB in Germany is taking over. It can literally print money whenever it wants. It owns Greece. It has become a Power, a Power to be feared? Or desired? We are trapped.
>>68116810
I'm not sure, maybe you could give me some numbers? Huh Ahmed?
You're probably well adversed with it.
>>68116959
I think you don't understand. I am 100% for a Brexit.
I am just saying that once a Brexit will happen the EU and the EU states will do everything in their own interest and that is in direct contrast to what the interest of the UK are.
>>68116959
>The EU isn't growing, economic development is stagnating across the continent
See pic related, the EU and UK growth pretty much correlated in the past.
>>68114098
>Fikki
Please use the correct cultural terms when referring to this proud race plsthx
>>68117119
This, which is the only sole reason NATO was assembled.
>>68117331
so your going to stop selling us your cars?
guess you can sell them to the flourishing turkish car market instead Ahmed
>>68116543
Never said anything about Putin either, if anything. Brexit supporters get accused of SUPPORTING Putin and giving him a bigger advantage over the EU. So.
London is a lost city, but isn't that mostly the story with every other European capital? It also doesnt help with london being a cultural city that fucking attracts every dunecoon.
>>68112360
they are surely ready to die for das neue Heimat
>>68116953
There is no financial industry in Europe ex-UK. You're literally irrelevant and in massive decline everywhere else. The trade deficit is real, whether you like it or not and some cars with special rules don't affect the facts.
>>68117424
>so your going to stop selling us your cars?
No, why? We will continue to sell your cars and our machinery. And there is literally nothing you can do about it, unless you also exit the WTO.
Meanwhile, there are WTO rules that allow the City of London to access the EU single market via services and financial business.
You can send us your cars and your machinery, but not your services.
And that really fucks up your negotiating position.
>>68117119
>>68117119
Oh that must have been why SlavJoe Stalin pants was literally BEGGING for us to land when he was in Yalta
On his knees with tears in his eyes like a bitch, pleading with America the way a starving dog begs for scraps from its master
>>68111111
>>68117547
enjoy footing the tab for the incoming hordes of shitskins into Europe, you will be one of the few remaining net contributors
in 10 years there will be no Germans left
probably for the best
>having a female chancellor
>>68117331
>The EU and the EU states will do everything in their own interest and that is in direct contrast to what the interest of the UK are.
What are the interests of the EU? To fuck Britain over probably yes as a way of expressing their jealously over the power we have on the world stage and economically with the City of London?
End of the day, Audi, BMW, French champagne growers won't be happy when they can't see to us.
>>68110973
ROLLIN' FOR 7
>>68117547
>You can send us your cars and your machinery, but not your services.
Not sure if this is a mistake, but the EU is the one that has the trade deficit with the UK, you're the one who'll be more inclined to sell to the UK, can't see Germany car manufacturers doing any thing different.
>>68110973
You forgot give the power to Europeans and not jews
>>68117511
>There is no financial industry in Europe ex-UK.
I work in the financial sector and that statement is just BS. As a matter of fact, the financial industry within Europe ex-UK is bigger than London, because you need to add Zurich, Frankfurt, Stockholm, Amsterdam, Madrid, Paris, Milan etc. together.
See pic related as a facet of the market relation between the Euro area, the UK and the US in terms of debt capital markets. Once the UK leaves, the Euro area debt capital markets underwriting business will be done solely from within the EU... unless there is a UK-EU deal to give the UK full access to the EU financial services market.
>>68117787
Oh dont worry, George Soros and his buddies will be having a field day with a federalised EU.
That should scare any state away from this faggot's op cuck dream.
>>68112177
Germany's QTs
>>68117443
>isn't that mostly the story with every other European capital?
Warsaw - 100-150k people (depending on source) marched on 11th Nov 2015 under "Poland for Poles. Poles for Poland." banner.
>>68117706
Were living in an ever more global economy.
With countries that were fesring third worlds just 50 years ago are now viciously competing in the global market.
Youre just a lost customer easy to replace
>>68115625
If you want solidarity, you shouldn't make yourself look like traitors.
You should have kept out of the EU from the beginning.
>>68116679
More like as in Norway or Switzerland outside of the EU Hans.
Your argument is foolish, our markets depend on each other to do well, it would be very poor business to treat Britain as an "economic enemy" once leaving the EU.
Think of how massive the UK market is for EU business, do you really think European countries would want to throw away all of that business just so that you can keep the other countries in line? Why would you want to scare monger other countries into staying in the EU anyway if they would be better off out of it?
>>68117706
>End of the day, Audi, BMW, French champagne growers won't be happy when they can't see to us.
But all these goods manufacturers are not affected by Brexit as all EU states and the UK are part of the WTO and there are rules for goods trading including a ban on tariffs.
Meanwhile there are no such WTO rules for services. So the City of London is fucked, Audi and BMW and Don Perion not.
>>68117922
I should of probably phrased it better.
Western Europe cucked capitals. Of course you wouldn't see that shit in Eastern Europe.
>>68110973
I agree with everything but kick out all shitskins europe took in+jews and turks
>>68117511
>There is no financial industry in Europe ex-UK.
I beg to differ.
>>68117826
All of that business is done here and you know it. The talent pool, among many other things, doesn't exist on the continent to handle the financial business of London. Thats why it's not done there. Nothing changes with a Brexit.
>>68110973
>3. pressure all non-Euro states to adopt the Euro as soon as possible
try it Hans
>>68117955
>More like as in Norway or Switzerland outside of the EU Hans.
Sorry, but that is impossible. The UK will never accept a position like Norway or Switzerland. That is pretty clear from the outside.
We are talking CETA (Canadian agreement) here, not EEA or EEA light.
>>68117955
>Your argument is foolish, our markets depend on each other to do well,
And the good trading will continue unhindered, yes. But the EU will have no problem to repatriate a lot of financial and other services from the UK.
>>68117955
>Think of how massive the UK market is for EU business, do you really think European countries would want to throw away all of that business
Of course not. As I said above, under WTO rules, goods trading will just continue mostly unhindered. But the rest of the pie (the services pie) can be split between the EU and the UK and the EU will do everything in its power to get most of it back.
>>68117511
Germany is the economical engine of Europe. An uk free EU would do just fine.
>>68117969
The City is mostly very anti-EU, they know this referendum is the last chance for us to get out before the ECB does try and cobble together some crap finance centre in Frankfurt.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
>>68117942
In that case then the Commonwealth will be queuing up to sell us their wares, same with us to them. No more rules about car emissions, we can sell our Land Rovers, Bentleys to the world.
>>68117581
>BEGGING
I'd love to have a peek in your history classes but I'm not sure I'd be able to contain my laughter
>>68112177
ficki ficki
>>68112080
Soon, brother.
>>68118240
>All of that business is done here and you know it. The talent pool, among many other things, doesn't exist on the continent to handle the financial business of London.
I see people move between Paris, London and Frankfurt all the time. Bankers and financial experts are flexible. I have a friend who works in a PE firm here in Frankfurt, they don't even have a London office.
And the point is not about replacing London, the point is about repatriating certain business and yes, there is enough "talent" for doing so.
>>68118307
Go anywhere in the world and see how many land rovers are being sold compared to let's say BMW or Audi. Ratio is something like 1:200. And you would still have to respect the emission rules of you want to sell anything within EU.
>>68111111
You make me proud, kinsman.
>>68118281
>Germany is the economical engine of Europe
If the UK leaves I'm fairly certain it will cause an upset. And if Germany keeps up its demographic suicide policy it will be having to pay out the ass for that. I can't seem them lasting long, supporting all the other members as well.
>>68118307
>The City is mostly very anti-EU,
You are dreaming, seriously. 80% of the City is against Brexit.
>>68118307
>In that case then the Commonwealth will be queuing up to sell us their wares, same with us to them.
So? The EU is trading a shitload more with the Commonwealth than the UK. And no, India or Australia or New Zealand or Canada will not allow London to suddenly do all the financial business for them... not even considering that there is a shitload of time difference between London and those countries, which is a big issue .
>>68118307
The City of London is the enemy to the entire United Kingdom that's been rehypothecated to oblivion
>>68117119
Nigga, who do you think paid for Russian tanks and equipment?
It wasn't uncle Stalin, it was the United States!
BURGERS AND FREEDOM, FUCK YEAH!
>>68118475
You certainly didn't read OP's manifesto. If you got kicked, all of its (EU) immigrants would too. And we'd stop industrial capitalism, so none of EU members would need you for anything.
>>68118475
>And if Germany keeps up its demographic suicide policy it will be having to pay out the ass for that.
Average number of fugees coming to Germany per day in the last 14 days - 100. Total number in a year, 36,500... about the same that the UK got last year in fugees.
>>68118475
I forgot to mention we'd kick out americans with their bases and grow our own militaries without giving america anymore political influence over our countries, as well require any non EU citizen a visa to get in.
>>68110973
>4. control its borders
Good one, I needed a good ol' chuckle to start the day off.
>>68118585
No wonder those tanks literally fell apart on the battle field
Made In USA
>>68118571
The Commonwealth already allow London to do a lot of financial work as do a lot of other nations because of their belief in the British Common Law system.
>>68118585
I'm not saying Lend-Lease didn't help but it didn't win the war in the East, rather it was the Soviet industrial base that successfully moved to Urals
>>68110973
Question about Brexit that has been bothering me: what is the point of it when the UK isn't part of 2 of the major EU policies that created major problems: Schengen and the euro. Brits have retained their currency and the control of their borders. I mean I get Frogs who want to leave the union because of these 2 things having negative impacts for their country but what would Brexit entail more than what you guys already have now?
>>68110973
Stop making these kinds of threads
No one is buying your shit
>>68118766
kek
>>68118785
>The Commonwealth already allow London to do a lot of financial work as do a lot of other nations because of their belief in the British Common Law system.
And yet the EU is by far the biggest export market for UK services (incl. financial services) compared to other markets. How come?
>>68118829
they still pay into the common budget while having a smaller piece of it back, plus they have to legislate according to EU's dictate
>>68118640
>You certainly didn't read OP's manifesto. If you got kicked, all of its (EU) immigrants would too. And we'd stop industrial capitalism, so none of EU members would need you for anything.
I did read it, but you must be fucking absolutely deluded if you think any of that is going to happen if we leave and somehow the EU magically cares about Europeans again.
The UK isn't holding the EU to ransom to accept million of refugees. Its just Germans are so undeniably cucked they won't to be overriden with rapefugees. The UK has been one of the only countries that has completely anti refugee influx.
>>68118676
I can't believe you trust the commision lol. You'll get the brunt of it's madness.
>>68118676
>Average number of fugees coming to Germany per day in the last 14 days - 100. Total number in a year, 36,500... about the same that the UK got last year in fugees.
Lmao....'Oh yeah, it isn't that many. I'll just quickly overlook the million or so rapefugees that came last year'
Just face it Ahmed, you're so undeniably fucked, they'll outbreed your population and before you know it you're a minority. Fucking Krauts deserve it for trying to destroy Europe's demographics.
>>68118766
>This amount of delusion
>>68118903
What year is that from as its less than 50% now.
>>68118945
>they still pay into the common budget while having a smaller piece of it back, plus they have to legislate according to EU's dictate
Guess what, if they want access to the EU single market like Norway or Switzerland, they would still have to pay in. Not as much as now, but definitely several billions.
We all pay into the EU in order to benefit from the system and support the poorer countries in the union which in turn let us sell our goods and services there (and get their well trained academics).
>>68110973
>3. pressure all non-Euro states to adopt the Euro as soon as possible
It will NEVER EVER happen here. It is absolute political suicide to push this issue here. People really fucking don't want that cuck currency here.
Germans are pretty nervous itt
