people shouldn't get a head start in life. inheriting wealth should be illegal. people should start out on an equal footing(poor as fuck). if you want wealth, you have to work for it and not inherit it. if you want true economic equality in this country this is how you do it. you put in an end to inheritance.
this will dispel the myth that you can became wealthy if you just work hard enough. That's why no republican would be for this. Most rich people got their wealth via inheritance. They don't get it via work. they live off the work of their distant ancestor who got the money(and he probably got it via shady dealings).
Fuck off retard, the whole point of obtaining wealth is building a legacy that your descendants can inherit.
>>67995780
So does every kid also have to attend the exact same schools? Being born into wealth also means better education, a more structured life where you're constantly learning new things, regular vacations, better food, better everything really.
>>67995780
>people should start out on an equal footing(
...but people have different genetics, cultures and places of birth. Are you implying that those of inferior breed or pedigree deserve to die? I'm not necessarily disagreeing, just want to make sure that's the point you're making.
>>67995834
fuck a legacy. your wealth should end when your life ends
>>67995973
What the fuck happens to a company if the owner dies then?
>>67995780
And what happens to the money of the parents after they die you commie fuck? Distributed to poor shitstains?
>>67996121
naw, it's given to the government to benefit society as a whole, not just to poor people.
>>67995780
You are severely autistic if you genuinely believe this.
What's the point of working up a fortune if it's all for nothing when you die? The economy would die in no time. Why shouldn't you be allowed to secure a brighter future for your children, allowing them better education and living in a secure neighborhood?
The whole world would turn into lower to middle class, with the exception of a few (fewer than now) lucky people.
I only can agree to some extent, it shouldn't be used to give you a jump-start in life, i wouldn't mind if your dead wealthy relatives company is given to you and shit but the money gained shouldn't be used to just put your life on easy mode till you leave education
>that or you let the government steal the inheritance and shit
>tfw it will be cheaper to keep a brain dead parent on life support indefinitely than it will be to let them die with dignity then let the state take your wealth.
Enjoy your full hospitals op.
>>67996221
>What's the point of working up a fortune if it's all for nothing when you die?
implying that would be a bad thing. it would put people's greed in check. you would no longer have these rich assholes hoarding billions of dollars in wealh.
>Implying elites won't just tax evade it whilst middle class inheritance gets rekt
>>67995780
Right. Okay, so even if you disallow all forms of inheritance, people will still have a head start.
Or are you going to ban people from spending money on their children while they're alive? Can I pay for my children's college, or would that give them an unfair advantage? Can I write a check to my children? Can I lend them money?
Besides, it wouldn't work anyway. Rich people would just find some other way to transfer assets, like having everything owned legally by a company they establish, and appoint their children so that when they die, their children take over the company.
It's one thing if you say that Trump's children can't inherit his money. Are they allowed to take control of his company if / when he gets elected President?
>>67995780
Wealth is literally the least important thing you inherit from your parents.
>>67996221
>Why shouldn't you be allowed to secure a brighter future for your children, allowing them better education and living in a secure neighborhood?
what's the difference between getting money from a welfare state and getting money from your parents? i don't really see the difference. You are receiving money you didn't earn. You're receiving based on luck. You came out of the right rch vagina when you were born.
>>67995780
>people shouldn't get a head start in life. inheriting wealth should be illegal. people should start out on an equal footing(poor as fuck). if you want wealth, you have to work for it and not inherit it.
The problem with this is even if kids are stripped of their inheritance and live in a massive orphanage funded by the government, some kids are bound to do better than other even if they receive the same education.
It does not matter where you start, it's where you will end.
you do NOT have to be the top 1% richest people in the world to live a happy, abundant life.
Damn dis op suffering from some serious inheritance guilt. If it bugs you so much you're rich all of q sudden just donate your money to medical research and join the military.
Nice, now how are you going to enforce that?
>>67995780
>people shouldn't get a head start in life. inheriting wealth should be illegal. people should start out on an equal footing(poor as fuck). if you want wealth, you have to work for it and not inherit it. if you want true economic equality in this country this is how you do it. you put in an end to inheritance.
Marx said the same thing.
>>67995780
That might sound good in theory but there are plenty of ways to work around the inheritance tax.
If I amassed millions, there would be no way that I would let incompetent bureaucrats divvy up my life's work. Barring an unforeseen death, I would work hard in my later years to give th money to those who I thought deserved it, and effectively circumvent the tax altogether. Let's say i'm in my 70s with millions, instead of writing a will, I would transfer assets any way possible to avoid it.
Your dream world sounds great, but places way too much faith in government do gooders that have proven themselves ineffective time and time again.
>>67995780
>gommie post
And you'll vote for Sanders by the time you keep this reasoning up.
>>67995780
>inheriting wealth should be illegal.
All rich leave your country now and invest in other countries economy. Losers would be middle class. Again. Good job.
>>67995780
oh god that video is so fucking cute
>>67995780
Do you have kids?
>>67995780
Lol no silly bernie-fag
>considered low middle class (25k annual)
>still red pilled bc I hate freebies and coons
>the world would be a better place if eveyone was poor
even more stupid than communism which at least pretends it'll distribute it fairly
>>67996312
Fucking spamfilter doesn't let me post.
Buddy money is but a small aspect of wealth in life and reality hits people hard whether rich or poor. Just as many possible pitfalls (and think spiritually as well as physically) from starting with or without means.
>>67995780
"true economic equality"? so you are a socialist idiot who wants everyone to have equal amount of money
people usually don't inherit wealth until well into adulthood. almost every billionaire is self made. and parents work hard to earn wealth to support their continued genetic existence
forbidding inheritance is not only highly unfair, it also would be extremely damaging to the economy
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2014/09/the-economic-and-fiscal-effects-of-eliminating-the-federal-death-tax
but not that you would care for fairness and the wellbeing of society. you are just an unintelligent jealous lazy loser who wants to drag everyone down to your level
I'm certain this is a troll thread but the fact that disgusting examples of human refuse who think like this actually do exist just make me hope WW3 actually happens so we can all just die together in nuclear hellfire. This species is too cucked to continue.
>>67996032
corporations aren't people
>>67995780
This is probably one of the stupidest suggestions I've read on /pol/ in a long time.
Even if you ignore the concept of advancing yourself to better the living conditions of your children, so they can, in turn, do the same, it would be practically impossible for such a policy to be implemented.
All you would have to do is put an account under the name of your beneficiary which you both have access to. When you die, your access is no longer possible (or necessary for that matter), and the wealth goes to your beneficiary.
Then consider what happens with company ownership. Who gains the shares you have upon your death?
Lets revisit the purpose of inheritance though. The entire purpose of a family is to, generation by generation, work to improve the living standards and quality of life your descendants have. You are denying a person from assisting their children in having a better future... Why? Because some people are so selfish that you want to deny all people their right to be altruistic.
Go fuck yourself, you selfish piece of shit.
>>67996987
>"true economic equality"? so you are a socialist idiot who wants everyone to have equal amount of money
that's actually a strawman. that's not what i said. People should gather wealth as they do now but they shouldn't be able to pass it on. I don't believe everyone should have equal wealth. wealth should be determined by how productive you're in this life. if you're more productive than others, then you deserve to be more wealthy than others.
>>67997012
The OP raised a valid political issue, which is how society and the legal system should treat private property when the owner of that property is no longer able to be in possession of it, due to expiration of the person.
What right does any one person have over another in society to the rights of property which is released from ownership by virtue of death of the owner?
Perhaps the current system could do with a rethink.
>>67995780
Doesent really matter. Since greed and and nepotism will always be ingrains in the human mind.
Ug the caveman will always share his food with his family and pass his spear onto his son. Rather than any outsiders.
No matter where in history. The strong will always win.
The weak will always be trampled into their rightful place. Every race does this.
And nothing will stop it.
>>67996870
You think prosperity, comfort and ambition are good things? Are you fucking kidding me?
>>67997232
By the last will and testament of said owner, you stupid fucking faggot.
Even if this idea was imposed, you would still be behind everyone else for the rest of your life like the poor dumb nigger you are.
>>67996168
you mean stolen by kikes like you?
fuck off.
>people think i am a commie when i said nothing about wealth redistribution
I would have the same capitalist system we have now except without inheritance. Once a person dies his wealth ends. the government takes it and uses it to pay off the national debt or whatever. That's not wealth redistribution. it's not going to the poor.
>>67997425
Why is this afforded legal status over any other form of contract, which naturally becomes unenforcable at point of expiration of one of the contractors?
The property should become the property of the state upon expiration of the rights holder.
>>67995780
WHY ARE ASIANS SO FUCKING CUTE
it blows my mind
>>67997551
So the expired has no say whatsoever in what happens to his assets after his passing? Good argument, kill yourself.
>>67997232
What if the only reason you worked hard and earned your wealth was so that your children could have a better life than you? That's literally the American dream.
I grew up poor, and have a great job that I save most of my income from so that my children and grandchildren won't have to bust their asses like I had to.
I agree.
Not a single person with the last name Walton deserves their money
I agree OP. But your idea only continues to feed the natural envy of socialists. So instead of inherentace and property going to the state, I recommend we burn it all.
That way, newer generations dont get money. The poor doesnt get money. And the state doesnt get money.
I think that's fair and true equality. NO ONE GETS ANYTHING. What right does the poor and the state have to get the money if the children don't?
>>67997673
>apple outsourcing to china, effectively killing us industry
>hurr capitalism is the answer
>>67997821
>socialism is the logical solution!
Epic meme.
from the greatest civilisations to the lowliest savages.
There are always leaders. Great in their power and wealth. Men who sit atop a mountain of gold.
That desire sits inside all men.
There is no good and evil.
Only power. And those too WEAK to wield it.
Even communism itself is not immune. Mao, Stalin, All the communists. Had men who had a seat of power. Unchallenged by all. While they sip from the cup of luxury.
You are nothing but an Aberration. We are 7 billion strong. And you will never destroy us.
The strong will always rise.
>>67995780
It would be impossible to implement - just put the assets you want your children to inherit into a legal entity from country that doesn't have such laws, have your children inherit it under foreign laws and your idea just failed.
Besides, it could create really fucked up situations. For example: an elderly married couple lives in a house owned by husband. He dies first, so the government confiscates the house and the wife is thrown out on the street?
Anyway, it also could be seen as infringement of property rights and it could be bypassed by many loopholes. For example here in Poland there is something called "life gift" - it means that you can give something (like an apartment) to another person with a requirement that they will allow you to use it till you die.
Lastly, I don't know if I want to see such a fortunes in the hands of governments. Look how much harm can be done by wealthy people like George Soros, Bill Gates or Koch brothers - what could a government do with all these squillionaire fortunes pooled together?
>>67997635
they have a standard of beauty that emphasizes cuteness over sexiness. we in the west emphaize sexiness over cuteness and see cuteness as something reserved for kids.
>>67997821
You can have capitalism without globalization.
>>67997978
>spinning a Harry Potter quote for a pro-communism post on 4chan
>>67996221
Except 9/10 of this shit fucking worthless homos waste that money achieving nothing anyway. It's thanks to shit like that that we have things like the Kardashians and Paris Hilton.
>>67997917
I didn't say anything about socialism. What are you insinuating?
>>67998064
right we can just turn the globalization off with a switch
>>67998106
>pro communism
Learn to read. Athiest.
Even atheists adhere to a power structure and worship Dawkins.
Power is universal.
I don't hate the rich and I don't pity the poor.
>>67995780
I feel like you're someone who's taken a shot of cum in the back of the throat at some point.
Also I'm sorry you're poor. Get a real job.
>>67995780
fuck off commie kike
>>67998245
op here
i don't hate rich people who started out poor and created their own wealth. I hate rich people who inherited their wealth and who otherwise would be poor if they didn't have wealthy parents.
So you would prefer the government take all of it when you die so they can have crazy good pay and benefits but your actual kin cannot? You sound like jealous poorfag with poor parents
>>67995780
That's a ridiculous idea. I grew up poor as fuck with drug addict parents but I made a moderate success of myself, I'm not rich but I live a much better life than my parents did when they were my age. I plan on starting a family in the next few years and I want my future kids to have a better childhood and better opportunities than I did; my goal is to be able to send them to a private school.
>>67998126
taking all the rich peoples money when they die and giving it away is socialism senpai
>>67997087
While OP is a fag, a company isn't necessarily a corporation.
>>67998106
>>67998231
Too scared to reply I see.
Run away coward.
wealth should be based on productivity and not on the family you came from.
if you're not productive and you inherited wealth from your parents, you should have that wealth taken away from you.
republicans always bash welfare recipients for being unproductive and for not getting a job and yet they are for bums who inherited money from their parents. i don't really see the difference between the two.
>>67995780
Being confronted with other peoples possessions that is greater, polluting the air, space, atmosphere.
How is this forgiveable? I mean thinking real?
As just by the immense grace of the majority
>>67998386
>hating people because their families are successful
Get gulag'd Ivan, I bet your parents are trash
I just woke up and already I cant imagine hearing something more retarded today.
>>67998917
One is theft by the state. Taking taxpayer money and giving it to people who they don't want to give it to.
The the other is a voluntary gift to their offspring who they want to give it to.
If parents don't want their children to have money. They write them out of the will and specifically state they don't want them to get a penny.
See
>>67997978
>>67997551
Bet you wouldn't be such an idealistic cunt if for instance your recently deceased grandpa had left you a hefty sum of money
What a hell. It is like mixing two explosive or otherwise dangerous fluids. It will never be OK.
Means: time for some real working fascism and right wingedness. That all can like.
>>67999541
And doesnt fear anyone
>>67995780
Anyway everything not too based on working as well.
>>67996278
there would be exceptions. i would make it illegal to keep brain dead people alive(especially in a case like that).
a brain dead person would be considered dead under the law and his heart would be made to stop. no family members would have a say because family members are fucking retarded when it comes to such an issue.
>>67997978
This is true. There has never been a political system without leaders. If a person thinks there could be one, he is a madman. People always need leaders, and if there isn't one, one will always get the power somehow.
>>67995780
> yfw you have children and realize what a moron you are
>>68000244
Why do you think you can be a leader? Why do you think the people would let those kind of laws take place? There would be an uprising and you would die, hopefully.
>>67995780
this is the kind of mentality i would expect from a weeb loser
I really envy the system you have in the US.
In most countries every penny of an estate gets taxed. In the US there the first $5million don't get taxed at all.
>>67995780
What you suggest is impossible unless we destroy the entire economy free market and implement a communist regime to rule everything.
Also personally, fuck you.
>>67995780
Are you an idiot?
I was homeless, broke, and without any government aid because I happened to be a single white man without mental defect.
Not eligible for any government poverty programs.
I worked my ass off. I retired at age 48. I live in a very nice custom house. I have a Porsche and BMW in my driveway. I send my kid to private school.
In short I created my life without help through the results of hard work. My parents were worthless leftist hippies. I inherited nothing from those leaches.
My kid won't start from zero if I can help it.
>>68001548
>I was homeless, broke, and without any government aid because
>I worked my ass off. I retired at age 48.
Timestamp of your Porsche or you're lying. I really don't believe you. Even then it will only prove that you're currently well off. Not that you started out poor.
Did I just walk into a Social Studies class for 11 year olds?
>>68001970
why is it so hard to believe that some people are successful and save their money? I'm in my mid-30s and have saved enough where I could retire in the next ~5 years if I wanted to.
Sakura got popular from hard work before she was pushed by management.
>>67995780
opinion discarded by indifferent reality.
we non-leftist-scum will do everything we can to resist your evil system until it inevitably comes crashing down under its own violent weight.
The natural order shall not be violated. Humans will always keep their family and their dignity.
>>68002235
Because I deal with people's inheritances all the time and have a realistic understanding of what a person can achieve with 45-50 years of hard work.
And you faggots clearly don't.
The guy claimed that he was homeless. That's what made his story unbelievable.
>>68002693
what can a person achieve with 15 years of hard work?
>>67995780
stop being jealous of other people
>>67995780
If fathers are not allowed to work for their sons than the government should force eugenics programs
No poor socialist ever gave me a job. No socialist I ever met has participated in a functional collective. Only wealthy capitalists with a decent sense of christian morality and community ethic keep society functioning above slave tier labor.
Id rather be in a system that respected me and my family then isolated me and forcibly stripped me of my property.
Socialists are murderous cultists
>>67996371
even barring economics, what about people that are born intelligent or capable of making long term decisions?
>>68002981
The median household income in the US is only $55k.
Even if you saved 100% of those two incomes for the whole 15 years, it would be a really sketchy thing to try to retire on that. It will mean a pension of about $20k and no fall back.
The guy said he started out homeless which means that for the most part he had a even lower income.
>>67995973
Why?
>>67996312
So your stance to put greed in check is to be incredibly greedy and harm everyone superfulously. Truly a fucking genius level intellect.
>>68003569
>compounding interest
>small business investments
>not buying expensive bullshit
There is no excuse to be poor by age 40. poor 40 year olds should have their case reviewed (accident or disability, focuses on valuable artistic talent, etc. excuses), then barred from voting and recieving benefits of any kind.
Seriously, poor old people are the most toxic wastes of life in society. they worked as little as they could, managed nothing for their future, and then bitch and whine about how evil the world is and vote for absolute criminal govt.
>>68003813
because he had shit parents that didnt provide for him and now he's mad that other peoples parents made better decisions.
>>68000244
>Let me just kill this person already so we can steal his money. The bourgeois fuck is so greedy for not just dying when I want him to.
Welcome to Soviet Russia everyone, and gtfo of /pol/
>>67997551
And by what fucking right would the state be able to do so?
>>67995780
Why?
>>67997511
>National debt is incurred by frivolous social spending
>National debt is paid for by graverobbing
It is wealth redistrubution, no matter what you call it
>>67996168
go check the corruption rate in government and then come back here faggot
