Why can't you losers find jobs when it's the best labour market since 2000 right now?
Why are you blaming Obama for your personal failures?
The unemployment rate is down to 4.9%
>inb4 MUH labor rate
The only reason the labor participation rate is down is because so many Trumpfags and /pol/tards are not employable and too retarded to join the labor force.
>inb4 but MUH min wage jobs
They're not all minimum wage first of all. Second of all, why do you retarded morons feel you're entitled to high paying jobs straight out of your mother's basement? Third of all, you're against raising the min wage so why are you bitching it's too low?
YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.
Job openings rise in January
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/job-openings-rise-in-january-2016-03-17
>A
>FUCKING
>LEAF
>>67912584
>4.9%
I have some ocean front property for sale in Arizona if you are interested
Deal with it shitlords
>>67912584
Most /pol/tards do have jobs.
Most of the unemployed people in America are niggers.
>he's an autistic Canadian that shitposts the same debunked stats every day in the same dumb thread
>>67912584
I cant get a job because Im a legal citizen without a h1b visa or person of color special status. Its not economically viable to hire me since the government grants $2,225 to the comapny per every person of color or h1b hire.
>>67912584
No thanks, fuck working, working is for plebs. I will stay comfy in my apartment high up in the sky with fresh air away from all the skitskins paid for a prototype universal income and jacking off to my neighbours sex noises
>>67912584
Literally every positive shift in jobs has been because of the oil industry, the very thing Onigger has been fighting since he was sworn in
Now kill yourself
Also unemployment is still hovering around 20%
>>67912945
So the Obama economy is good for white people then. So why are Trumptards so angry.
>>67912584
Obama single handedly turned the ecomony around after the worst economic crisis since the 30s. Republicans tried to do their worst to sabotage his reformes but where BTFO. America is now enjoying an economic boom thanks to a black man and all you racist wants to do is to get that fascist Drumf into office so he can destroy everything.
that are all part time thanks to obamacare yay!
>>67912946
You're describing yourself skippy. You keep posting the same retarded chart from 2012. We all know Bush killed jobs and Obama created jobs. What's your point retard?
My stats aren't debunked. I linked the article. Job openings are at a record high.
That's a fact, bitch.
America has near record 5.6 million job openings
http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/09/news/economy/america-5-6-million-record-job-openings/
4.9, yeah right its at least 25. Also This 11 million illegals is such a joke, its at least 50-100
>>67912793
All unemployment and underemployment rates have plummeted under President Barack Hussein Obama.
>>67913053
Trump loves H1B and H2B workers. He hates hiring Americans.
Why are you guys still working? Enjoy working for your slave masters?
Either be self-employed, a business owner, or don't work. Get a rest ffs
>>67912584
yes OP
7-11, mcdonalds and dominos are hiring
mexicans will be deported so then landscapers and dishwashing jobs will open.
obama is truly a genius
>>67913324
>4.9, yeah right its at least 25
I heard it's 99%.
You retards just make up your own numbers.
The unemployment rate is 4.9%. Deal with it. The U3 rate has been the official unemployment rate for decades. Obama didn't change the way it's calculated.
>This 11 million illegals is such a joke, its at least 50-100
A FUCKING LEAF
>>67913358
>mentions underemployment
>doesn't mention participation rate
nice work :^)
>>67913475
I already addressed this.
>They're not all minimum wage first of all. Second of all, why do you retarded morons feel you're entitled to high paying jobs straight out of your mother's basement? Third of all, you're against raising the min wage so why are you bitching it's too low?
>>67912584
I honestly don't get why republicans hate Obama so much. He has done an outstanding job, but it seems conservatives are a bunch of sore losers that can't accept this.
>>67913570
The U4 rate includes all discouraged workers. It's 5.3%. This isn't rocket science.
The only reason the labor participation rate is down is because so many Trumpfags and /pol/tards are not employable and too retarded to join the labor force and get a job.
>>67912584
Are you the same leaf that makes threads about Egypt being ruled by niggers?
Obama didnt make those jobs
The Federal Reserve did, while killing savers and tripling the national debt
>>67913728
Obama hasn't even doubled the national debt. Where the hell are you getting tripled from?
You must be confusing Obama with Reagan.
It's Reagan who tripled the national debt.
>>67913876
No idgaf about Egypt.
I'm trying to get you Trumptards back into the labor force because you're dragging down the participation rate.
>>67913974
Have interest rates normalized under a "Strong Obama Economy"? How can the economy be considered strong when rates haven't hit 1% in almost a decade?
Fuck off shill. Go suck Krugmans Keynesian cock some more.
>>67914266
So you're giving Obama credit for keeping inflation low. I agree with you.
>>67914410
Low inflation for this long is not a good thing you mouthbreathing retard
>>67912584
why is gdp so low?
>>67913974
I think you forgot the part where Obama spend about 10 trillion dollars.
>enforce obamacare so anyone who works over 40 hours a week is automatically on it
>companies hire 2 people per 1 job
>oh wow Obama so smart!!!!
>>67914632
Lol no matter what Obama does, you retards will never be satisfied. You'd rather have Republicans crash the economy and destroy millions of jobs.
The Obama economy has created 14 million jobs, it's the best labour market since 2000, 72 straight months of job creation the longest streak in American history, stock markets are up, corporate profits are up, wages are up, unemployment is down to 4.9%, inflation is low, the budget deficit has been cut by 2/3, manufacturing is way up, the US dollar is strong, OBL is dead, gas prices are below $2/gallon and military casualties have been reduced from 100/month under Bush down to basically zero/month now..
WTF does Obama have to do, to please you retards?
>>67912584
Better issue more HBN1s
>>67912584
you didn't build that
>>67914798
Because population growth is at its lowest in 80 years. Which is a good thing. GDP per capita growth is actually very good.
You have to look at GDP PER CAPITA growth. It's very strong.
>>67913720
>The only reason the labor participation rate is down is because so many Trumpfags and /pol/tards are not employable and too retarded to join the labor force and get a job.
yeah, I'm sure that's it
>>67915067
Obama inherited a $1.4 TRILLION budget deficit and has reduced it by more than 2/3. Yes the national debt went up because the retard before Obama left behind a $1.4 TRILLION budget deficit and a tire fire for an economy.
>>67915147
Why did Republicans quadruple H2Bs?
GOP Legislators Push Plan That Could Replace Americans, Import 264,000 Foreign Workers
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/05/gop-legislators-push-plan-replace-americans-import-264000-foreign-workers/
>>67915236
That is it. There are a record high 5.6 million job openings so it's not like it's hard to find a job.
America has near record 5.6 million job openings
http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/09/news/economy/america-5-6-million-record-job-openings/
>>67915574
Yep. It's all Trumpfags and /pol/tards.
Tell me, NEET, what is your profession?
>>67915761
I'm a NEET.
I have an excuse. Conservatives destroyed the Canadian economy. Do you remember how bad the US economy was when Bush just left office? That's where Canada is now. Our unemployment rate is 7.3%. We're losing jobs every month and we have insane immigration policies. We have the WORST labor market in 25 years.
The US creates over 200,000 jobs a month, you have record high job openings, unemployment is down to 4.9%, your economy is doing well.
Canada is basically in a stagnant recession.
What's your excuse NEET?
>>67915335
obama didn't inherit a 1.4 trillion deficict. you seem to forget about his bailouts
>>67916022
>I'm a NEET.
>I have an excuse.
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>>67916156
Bush bailed out Wall Street and yes Obama inherited a $1.4 TRILLION deficit. Everybody knows that.
>Obama came into office "with a $1.3 trillion deficit before I had passed any law. ... We came in with $8 trillion worth of debt over the next decade."
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/jan/29/barack-obama/obama-inherited-deficits-bush-administration/
I say $1.4 instead of $1.3 because remember, Bush never even put his wars in the budget. The first thing Obama did was put the wars in the budget which automatically made his budgets look bigger when really the Republicans weren't even accounting for the wars properly. But if you want to go with $1.3 TRILLION, that's fine, Obama has still reduced the budget deficit by 2/3.
No Republican since Eisenhower has even reduced the budget deficit. Every single one has increased the deficit.
>>67916240
I'm Canadian. The Canadian economy is shit because we just got rid of our Bush, we had Harper for 10 years and the Canadian economy went to shit.
There's a big difference between 7.3% unemployment and 4.9%.
The US is creating 200,000 jobs a month. Canada is losing jobs.
>>67916240
So you're saying Trumptards are NEETs who are dragging down the labor force participation rate?
That's exactly my point.
>politifact
nope
i'd gladly link you to a real report but im on my phone
>>67916620
>>67916799
>responding twice to the same comment which was just laughing at your failure
OH FUCK THIS IS TOO GOOD
HHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAAA
>>67916812
AHAHAHA I knew you'd say that retard. You didn't even bother to read it. You'd find a CBO report DATED January 9th, 2009. Who was President? GEORGE W BUSH
HERE YOU GO MOTHERFUCKER
>CBO projects that the deficit this year will total
$1.2 trillion, or 8.3 percent of GDP. Enactment of an
economic stimulus package would add to that deficit.
BEFORE OBAMA DID 1 THING, the budget deficit was $1.2 TRILLION. That's not including Bush's wars.
You've been lied to and you were duped by retards.
https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/111th-congress-2009-2010/reports/01-07-outlook.pdf
READ IT AND WEEP BITCH.
CBO REPORT.
Congressional Budget Office motherfucker.
Now admit you're wrong,.
>>67916938
So you're saying Trumptards are NEETs who are dragging down the labor force participation rate?
That's exactly my point.
>>67913531
nope. 92 million working age people are unemployed. Face reality instead of government cooked numbers.
>>67912584
>Trumpfags and /pol/tards are not employable and too retarded to join the labor force
Trump supporters actually have jobs.
That's why we hate Bernie, someone who only wants to help the jobless remain jobless.
>>67917221
>he's still mad
ROFL HOLY SHIT DUDE ALL I DID WAS LAUGH AT YOU BEING A NEET HAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA IS THAT ALL IT TOOK TO BREAK YOU? HAHAAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAA
>>67917248
>92 million working age people are unemployed.
Only Trumptarded morons think that millions upon millions of 60,70,80,90 year olds are WORKING AGE. How fucked in the head do you have to be to think that 80 year olds are unemployed?
When baby boomers retire, they LEAVE the labor force dummy.
The WORKING AGE labor force participation rate is exactly where it was in Reagan's 2nd term.
LOOK AT THE CHART AND WEEP BITCH.
>>67917390
So you're saying Trumptards are NEETs who are dragging down the labor force participation rate?
That's exactly my point.
There are a record high 5.6 million job openings in the US. What's your excuse?
America has near record 5.6 million job openings
http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/09/news/economy/america-5-6-million-record-job-openings/
Obama has to literally call me and give me job before I'll believe it
>>67917503
Find your city. Apply for jobs.
Here you go.
http://www.indeed.com/l-Nebraska-jobs.html
Nebraska has 2.9% unemployment rate.
Start there.
I'm not a woman.
>>67917494
>still mad
>trying to save face
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAA
>implying i haven't been working since i was 16
>>67917785
You seem a lot more hot and bothered than me.
So you're saying Trumptards are NEETs who are dragging down the labor force participation rate?
That's exactly my point.
There are a record high 5.6 million job openings in the US. What's your excuse?
America has near record 5.6 million job openings
http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/09/news/economy/america-5-6-million-record-job-openings/
>Trumptard 1 of 7 matches
>26 posts by this ID
>Leafposters
>>67917873
>You seem a lot more hot and bothered than me.
HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAAAA
>.75 cents have been deposited into your account!
>Thank you for shilling for Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, The Federal Reserve and the Democrat Party! We appreciate your support!
>>67917402
I know you're a faggot who bases everything you know off what our liberal media spoofeeds you, but seriously faggot. We have more available jobs because people are on welfare and make more money through tons of welfare and a 4 hour part time job than a 40 hour a week minimum wage. Or they go full leech and drop out of the workforce completely to get neetbux or 'I have a little anxiety and back pain so I can't ever work but I can indefinitely go to college!'
Furthermore, an increase of shitty low quality consumerist high turnover jobs is not indicative of a thriving economy.
>he thinks rampant service sector job growth and manufacturing contraction is indicative of a healthy economy
TOP FUCKING KEK
>>67918741
>.75 cents have been deposited into your account!
So 1 USD thanks to Harper.
Are there actual facts I presented that anyone wants to dispute?
>>67919095
Wasn't it as low as 65 cents under Paul Martin and Jean Chretien?
>>67918902
You're describing Trumptards. That was exactly my point. It's for Trumpfags to stop being so angry, stop blaming Obama, stop dragging down the labor force participation rate. They need to get out there and find a job. They need to rejoin the labor force.
The Obama economy has already created 14 million private sector jobs. 72 straight months of job creation. An American record.
Now it's time for Trumpfags to step it up.
>>67917657
I don't want a shitty job. I could go get a mcjob right now but I might as well not work if that's what's available
The article that you yourself are citing asserts that that's untrue. The number of job openings is a 'near record', not a record.
Also, don't job listings just scale up with the population? I would assume the population of the United States is at an /actual/ record high, which would explain the almost-but-not-record high number of job listings.
>>67919155
It was 87 cents when Harper entered office. 75 cents when he left. It went down on his watch.
Thanks to Trudeau, the Canadian dollar is rising again and is up to 77 cents.
No thanks to Harper.
Looks like Clintons internet defense force is changing tactics
>>67912584
>5.6 million low-wage part-time job openings available
FTFY
>>67919056
Wtf are you talking about? Are you some kind of fucking retard?
US manufacturing jobs are up under Obama.
Manufacturing jobs tend to collapse under Republicans.
LOOK AT THE CHART AND WEEP BITCH
>>67913720
maybe it not because the education system isn't educating people to be able to do the job properly. What has obama done for the education services? Has he helped the youth prepare? Because the way I see it I see kids doing drugs and having sex instead of working towards a future.
>>67919244
That's the problem with Trumptards. I addressed this above.
>They're not all minimum wage first of all. Second of all, why do you retarded morons feel you're entitled to high paying jobs straight out of your mother's basement? Third of all, you're against raising the min wage so why are you bitching it's too low?
>>67919539
and don't forgot all these gays trans and pony lovers
>>67919431
It also went to parity under his watch after oil was at 140 dollars a barrel
>let's completely ignore the fact that Canada has been dependent on commodities for over two decades and just blame the guy in charge for macroeconomic factors outside of their control
>>67913720
how about instead of fixing the jobs you fix the people of your country?
>>67919346
>The number of job openings is a 'near record', not a record.
The record was a few months prior. Look at the chart at the top retard.
>Also, don't job listings just scale up with the population? I would assume the population of the United States is at an /actual/ record high, which would explain the almost-but-not-record high number of job listings.
Again look at the chart at the top of this thread. It doesn't scale with the population. Did the population go down when Bush crashed the economy?
>>67919490
I addressed this at the top.
They're not all minimum wage first of all. Second of all, why do you retarded morons feel you're entitled to high paying jobs straight out of your mother's basement? Third of all, you're against raising the min wage so why are you bitching it's too low?
Find your city. Apply for jobs.
Here you go.
http://www.indeed.com/l-Nebraska-jobs.html
Nebraska has 2.9% unemployment rate.
Start there.
>>67919230
Most of those jobs are part time and low paying service jobs. They aren't good jobs.
I'm hiring 5.6 million shitposters to work for $0.01 a day.
You can all thank me for helping get the unemployment rate down.
>>67919539
>MUH COMMON CORE
Didn't Obama propose 2 years of free community college? Isn't that a start?
Wouldn't that help Trumptards even though they're against it because they are programmed to be against their own self interest.
>>67919840
Its useless arguing with this shill. The whole purpose of this thread is just to sow discord among Trump voters. Pure shameless propoganda.
>>67912584
the unemployment rate dosnt include those who are not seeking a job
that figure world sky rocket if gibdmedats were included
>>67919631
Harper was in charge for 10 years.
Tanked the Canadian dollar.
Worst economic record in Canadian history.
HARPER DINDU NUFFIN
>>67919840
>>67919918
That's not true. That's just made up.
Find your city. Apply for jobs.
Here you go.
http://www.indeed.com/l-Nebraska-jobs.html
Nebraska has 2.9% unemployment rate.
Start there.
Furthermore,
They're not all minimum wage first of all. Second of all, why do you retarded morons feel you're entitled to high paying jobs straight out of your mother's basement? Third of all, you're against raising the min wage so why are you bitching it's too low?
>>67919973
Absolute unadulterated bullshit that only a mouthbreathing liberal voter could spew
>>67919965
It's 5.3% if you include all discouraged workers.
That's the U4 rate.
This isn't rocket science.
>>67917402
There are a record high 5.6 million job openings in the US. What's your excuse?
America has near record 5.6 million job openings
http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/09/news/economy/america-5-6-million-record-job-openings/
>>67917856
my apologies then. We gotta get these Trumptards into the labor force.
Notice the shill keeps copy-pasting his talking points? I wonder who could be behind this!
>handrubbing intensifies
>>67919918
>Most of those jobs are part time and low paying service jobs.
You Trumptards can't keep making this up and using it as an excuse to drag the labor force participation rate down.
There are literally millions of jobs out there. Surely you can find one.
Thanks for the laugh gold merchant. I'm going to miss you guys in November.
>>67919885
Cheapskate.
>>67919545
>high paying
I don't want this right out the gate. I want to be able to grow and not get stuck at 10.50/hr because of corporate rules and overqualified managers that will never retire. Raising the min effectively eliminates all the raises I earned between minimum and 15/hr as well
>>67919056
Stupid goy. Moving money around is the future. Making shit doesn't produce any wealth.
>>67920116
Facts are your kryptonite.
>DONT INSULT MUH PRECIOUS HARPER
>>67915504
>Why did Republicans quadruple H2Bs?
If you haven't been paying attention for these last few months, because they're run by establishment Jews too.
>>67920138
>>67919965
Oops wrong link. Here's the U4 rate.
>>67913720
hey dumb leaf
labor participation is the stat that matters
only 80% of working age men and women are working
that means 20% of able-bodied men and women are unemployed
fuck off, you demented leaf
>it is important to note that we do not include people under the age of 16 in this figure. In addition, students, retirees, the disabled, homemakers, and the voluntarily idle are not counted in the labor force. The labor force as the percentage of the total population over the minimum working age is called labor force participation rate.
>http://www.econport.org/content/handbook/Unemployment/Define.html
>This is the one economic stat you should pay attention to
>http://theweek.com/articles/575627/economic-stat-should-pay-attention
a job is a job i guess
>>67920520
I agree Republicans are the problem.
They can't complain about MUH labor rate when they're flooding the country with foreign workers.
Trump is no better. He hires exclusively H2B's at Maralago. The motherfucker refuses to hire Americans.
>>67919973
>Tanked the Canadian dollar
really, youre going to blame that on harper?
sure the guy put all our (im canadian in french because fuck weed man) eggs in one basket with the oil sands, but that was the best option at the time. you cant blame a man that helped create a multi billion dollar infustructure in our own borders when the market got flooded with cheap oil on an international level
also, at a time when the us was in litteral knee deep shit during the recession, harper held his own. we canadians had it pretty good compared to the yanks.
harper may have been a non-charismatic chump but he look out for economic intrests.
give it five years, our low dollar is already stimulating outside investment and commodities will come back by 2020
>>67920568
Only Trumptarded morons think that millions upon millions of 60,70,80,90 year olds are WORKING AGE. How fucked in the head do you have to be to think that 80 year olds are unemployed?
When baby boomers retire, they LEAVE the labor force dummy.
The WORKING AGE labor force participation rate is exactly where it was in Reagan's 2nd term.
LOOK AT THE CHART AND WEEP BITCH.
>>67917402
Furthermore, he only reason the labor participation rate is down is because so many Trumpfags and /pol/tards are not employable and too retarded to join the labor force.
>Republicans and Conservatives are the problem!
>If only we had a strong socialist president like Clinton then things will magically be better!
Can't wait for the GDP boost once the the bootlicking industry takes off!
>>67920849
read the definition, you fucking retard
get off this board, shill
>>67920849
>boomers
>retiring
wew lad
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/martha-ts-laham-/delaying-retirement_b_7504128.html
>>67920998
Buddy I just linked you the chart of WORKING age labor participation rate. Did you even fucking look at it you retard? It's exactly where it was in Reagan's 2nd term.
80 YEAR OLDS ARE NOT UNEMPLOYED MORON. They're out of the labor force for a reason.
>>67917402 (You)
>>67920849
>>67921063
Are you suggesting no baby boomers are retiring and/or dying?
>“Each day,10,000 baby boomers retire and begin receiving Medicare and Social Security benefits.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2014/07/24/do-10000-baby-boomers-retire-every-day/
Why are you Trumptards such fucking morons??? Seriously, it's like you're all mentally handicapped or something.
>>67921113
Leave this board, shill
>Typically "working-age persons" is defined as people between the ages of 16-64. People in those age groups who are not counted as participating in the labor force are typically students, homemakers, and persons under the age of 64 who are retired. In the United States the labor force participation rate is usually around 67-68%.
http://economics.about.com/od/unemploymentrate/f/labor_force.htm
>it is important to note that we do not include people under the age of 16 in this figure. In addition, students, retirees, the disabled, homemakers, and the voluntarily idle are not counted in the labor force. The labor force as the percentage of the total population over the minimum working age is called labor force participation rate.
>http://www.econport.org/content/handbook/Unemployment/Define.html
>>67921327
OMFG the US labor force participation rate includes EVERYONE 16+.
Here you go. STRAIGHT FROM THE BLS. Bureau of LABOR STATISTICS motherfucker.
>Age: 16 years and over
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000
You've been DUPED by fucking right wing talking points you moron.
HERE IS THE WORKING AGE PARTICIPATION RATE. EXACTLY WHERE IT WAS under Reagan. LOOK AT THE CHART RETARD.
>>67917402
LINK:
https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/LNU01300060
Now admit you're a moron who was duped by failed right wing talking points.
>>67921591
reagan was in president from 1981 – 1989
during that time the labor participation went UP from 79% to 84%. That's a good thing you fucking idiot. LABOR PARTICIPATION IS MORE PEOPLE WORKING.
Obama has been in office since 2009.
It's gone down from 82.6% to 81.2%. That's BAD. THAT'S LESS PEOPLE WORKING.
You are completely retarded.
>>67922078
https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/LNU01300060
>90% of the shit open right now is seasonal employment for spring.
No thanks.
>>67922078
I'll answer your point but first you have to be honest.
Hey FAGGOT. At least be honest and admit that all this time you were bitching that 60,70,80 year olds were UNEMPLOYED. That's what you thought because you're a typical RIGHT WING RETARD.
You just saw this chart for the first time because I'm educating your retarded ass.
ADMIT IT BITCH.
Now to answer your point.
Yes it has declined because in case you didn't know, Bush crashed the economy in the worst way since the Republican Great Depression.
AUGUST 1985 under Reagan the CLPR was 81.0
Right now under Obama it's 81.2
That's pretty good. You do understand it can't go up to infinite right? You fucking retard.
It's been going up for 6 months and will probably finish around 82-83. Not bad at all.
The Obama economy has created 14 million jobs.
There are a record 5.6 million job openings.
So I will say this one last time.
YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.
The only reason the labor participation rate is down is because so many Trumpfags and /pol/tards are not employable and too retarded to join the labor force.
It's been going down since 2000.
damn, Obama haters are getting BTFO
I genuinely believe history will regard Obama as one of the most successful presidents in history (domestically) considering everything he had to deal with
He's done a really good job
He's even deported the most illegals of any president in history!
>>67922232
90%?
Source?
Establishments new tactic, blame the voters! Stupid white males don't deserve a vote anymore!
We should just extend Obamas term or give it to Clinton by default!
>>67912584
No significate rise in Full and Part Time Jobs since 2007.
Also population growth requires 200,000 new jobs each month. That is MONTH.
2015 - 2008 = 7 Years X 12 Months X 200,000 =
16.8 Million Jobs required in Growth to keep up with Population Trend... on top of the Millions of Jobs lost in 2008-2009.
So was it 11 Million Out of Work (no Job) lost in 2008 Financial Crisis... 11 Million + 16.8 Million = 27 Million Jobs.
But be conservative say 5 million jobs lost + 16.8 Million Jobs for Population Growth = 22 Million Jobs required over 7 years.
Check chart.
>>67922739
>Stupid white males don't deserve a vote anymore!
They deserve a vote. But they really need to get a job and stop dragging the labor participation rate down. It's pretty funny that the very same people complaining about it are the cause of it.
Obama 3rd term would be nice. He's been a damn good president.
>>67922562
IT DOESN'T INCLUDE RETIRED PEOPLE YOU IDIOT
I SHOWED YOU THE DEFINITION TWICE
>Typically "working-age persons" is defined as people between the ages of 16-64. People in those age groups who are not counted as participating in the labor force are typically students, homemakers, and persons under the age of 64 who are retired. In the United States the labor force participation rate is usually around 67-68%.
>http://economics.about.com/od/unemploymentrate/f/labor_force.htm
>it is important to note that we do not include people under the age of 16 in this figure. In addition, students, retirees, the disabled, homemakers, and the voluntarily idle are not counted in the labor force. The labor force as the percentage of the total population over the minimum working age is called labor force participation rate.
>http://www.econport.org/content/handbook/Unemployment/Define.html
>>67912584
OP, why does your chart look so different from the FRED Charts everyone else gets??
Did you make this with photo shop?
>>67921249
kek I was waiting for that article
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2012/10/08/how-baby-boomers-sticking-in-the-workforce-helps-younger-workers/
Why bring up the boomers at all if they don't affect the jobs for young people? You retard
>>67912584
OP,
Transient Job Opening and Closings?
Draw a line and maybe 4 Million Job Openings and Closings each month/year?
>they fuck moose
>milk in bags
>a fucking leaf
>>67912584
>lay off 100 full time workers
>post 200 part time openings at starting wage
You fucking shit lords, look at all these jobs!
>>67922973
What? Are you retarded? Your chart is of
>All employees: Mining and logging: oil and gas extraction.
You know FRED has literally thousands of different charts right?
You thought there was only 1 FRED chart?
What kind of a moron are you?
Which FRED chart do you think that I photoshopped (which I don't even know how to use)? I'll provide you the direct link.
If a conservative had as much job growth while in office as Obama has coming on the backs of a catastrophic economy he would be heralded as the greatest president of all time
>>67912584
Which one is it OP?
https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/JTSJOL
https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/categories/32241 (Jolts)
https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/categories/32243
https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/release?rid=192
>>67912584
And they're all fucking min wage temp jobs with no benefits or job security.
It's a revolving door of unemployment.
Hmmm I wonder what jobs they are
>>67922930
BUDDY you're fucking retarded man. You posted a separate definition from ABOUT.COM
I posted you the direct link to the Bureau of Labor Statistics which shows that the CLFPR is EVERYONE 16+.
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000
Right here. You can't handle the truth.
>>67921591
Where do you think rwnj's get their MUH 90 MILLION number from?
The BLS reports this every month.
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.a.htm
Here you go motherfucker.
Here's the BLS glossary.
>Not in the labor force (Current Population Survey)
Includes persons aged 16 years and older in the civilian noninstitutional population who are neither employed nor unemployed in accordance with the definitions contained in this glossary.
http://www.bls.gov/bls/glossary.htm
NOW ADMIT YOU WERE DUPED YOU RIGHT WING RETARD.
>>67923139
This is a chart of all employees: manufacturing.
What point are you to make here?
>>67923306
95% full time Obama job creation.
>>67923419
Precisely.
Republicans could only dream of having a record like this.
Everytime they're in charge, they crash the economy and then go:
WE DINDU NUFFIN
>>67923523
It was the first one. That FRED link.
My picture is from the Marketwatch article which I linked at the top.
Job openings rise in January
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/job-openings-rise-in-january-2016-03-17
But the data is from FRED.
>>67923527
I addressed this above.
They're not all minimum wage first of all. Second of all, why do you retarded morons feel you're entitled to high paying jobs straight out of your mother's basement? Third of all, you're against raising the min wage so why are you bitching it's too low?
Find your city. Apply for jobs.
Here you go.
http://www.indeed.com/l-Nebraska-jobs.html
Nebraska has 2.9% unemployment rate.
Start there.
>>67913304
>6 mil good payed jobs lost
>5,6 mil part time suk my cock and get the job jobs are available
>no one wants them so they just inflate the statistics
Gee, I wonder why
>>67923902
>http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000
>Right here. You can't handle the truth.
16+ doesn't mean they include retirees, you idiot
I gave you the definition, but you can't believe it
You are flat wrong.
The labor force SUBTRACTS people who are incapable of working. You are an idiot.
https://books.google.com/books?id=VM-g9jgbdroC&q=labor+force#v=snippet&q=labor%20force&f=false
> Nothing but good economic news every month since the summer after Obama became President.
> Every other speech Obama makes insists whatever bill he wants passed will create jobs.
> Every other speech is about turning the economy around.
> Look at a few of Reagan's old speeches, after 1982 the subject is mostly asking Congress for a balanced budget amendment of talking about foreign policy.
Judging by their actions, almost sounds like they might be lying to us about the job figures. I mean if the economy is so magnificent, why is the leading Republican candidate against outsourcing, and illegal immigration. If the job market was so perfect, why would anyone care about illegals taking what few working class jobs that haven't been outsourced? For that matter why is Free-Shit Bernie even noticed if things are going so great?
>>67924462
You're fucking stupid if you think the unemployment figures released by the government are a true reflection of participation in the labor force. Also working 3 different jobs just to have your 40hrs isn't very secure.
>>67924919
AHAHAHAAH YOU HAD TO GET THIS FROM AN OBSCURE QUOTE IN A BOOK ON GOOGLE?
DOESNT THAT TELL YOU SOMETHING?
BUDDY I'M GIVING YOU LINKS TO THE DIRECT SOURCE ON THE BLS WEBSITE.
TELL YOU WHAT LET'S GO ON SKYPE RIGHT NOW AND CALL THE FUCKING BLS. HOW ABOUT THAT? ASK THEM DIRECTLY MOTHERFUCKER. OR I'LL DO IT MYSELF AND RECORD AND POST IT HERE. YOU WANNA DO THAT? CAUSE YOU KNOW YOU'RE FUCKING WRONG. THE CLFPR IS EVERYONE 16+.
I SHOWED YOU THE WORKING AGE PARTICIPATION RATE AND IT'S THE SAME AS FUCKING REAGAN'S.
You can't handle it.
>>67917402
>Not in the labor force (Current Population Survey)
Includes persons aged 16 years and older in the civilian noninstitutional population who are neither employed nor unemployed in accordance with the definitions contained in this glossary.
http://www.bls.gov/bls/glossary.htm
I'M DEAD SERIOUS. LET'S SETTLE THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL. LET'S CALL THE BLS AND FIND OUT THE TRUTH. WHAT DO YOU SAY?
>>67925470
/pol/fags what program do you recommend to record the call? I'm going to call them from my skype. I have a business account.
Needs to be something I can easily post here.
>>67925470
>AHAHAHAAH YOU HAD TO GET THIS FROM AN OBSCURE QUOTE IN A BOOK ON GOOGLE?
THAT'S A FUCKING PRENTICE HALL TEXTBOOK YOU FUCKING IDIOT
I MAJORED IN ECONOMICS
THIS IS COMMON SENSE
YOU ARE A WRONG FUCKING IDIOT
GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE
>>67925775
AHAH SEE YOU'RE GIVING UP. YOU KNOW YOU'RE WRONG. THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T WANT TO MAKE THE CALL.
CALL BLS ASK THEM. WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO LOSE?
I'M GOING TO CALL THEM AND EMAIL THEM AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO GET BTFO MOTHERFUCKER.
>>67925775
They prolly have "free college" so all their shits a few decades out of the loop
>>67925884
go call them
if they say it's wrong, that will send SHOCKWAVES THROUGH THE ECONOMIC COMMUNITY
>>67926034
BUDDY USE YOUR TINY BIRD BRAIN FOR A FUCKING SECOND.
I'M QUOTING THE DIRECT SOURCE. I GAVE YOU A SCREENSHOT AND A LINK TO THE BLS GLOSSARY.
>Not in the labor force (Current Population Survey)
Includes persons aged 16 years and older in the civilian noninstitutional population who are neither employed nor unemployed in accordance with the definitions contained in this glossary.
http://www.bls.gov/bls/glossary.htm
>>67925470
You have a tiny fucking obscure quote in a fucking textbook that IS WRONG.
WOULDN'T THE BLS KNOW BETTER THAN YOUR FUCKING TEXTBOOK?
>>67912584
https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/JTU510099JOL (Financial Jobs, 394 thousand)
https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/JTU6200JOL (Obama Care, Health Care, 1.023 Million jobs)
https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/JTU6100JOL (Education Services up to 53 thousands, not a big area)
https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/JTU7000JOL (Leisure and Hospitality, 700 thousand)
https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/JTS4400JOL (Retail Trade, 586 thousand)
Looks like Waiters, Bartenders, Retail, Obama Care, Financial Services.
>>67926228
i'll find you another one
you are wasting my time
it doesn't include fucking retirees
>>67924919
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/record-94031000-americans-not-labor-force-participation-rate-stuck-38-year
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/LNU05000000 (Not in Labor Force)
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/civpart (CIVILIAN PARTICIPATION RATE)
115.6 million = Total Households
2.63 people per Household
319 Million = Total Population (FRED)
245 Million = Total Population over 16 years old (BLS)
147 Million = Total Employed (FRED & BLS)
94 Million = Total Not in Labor Force (FRED)
98 Million = Total Not in Labor Force (BLS over 16)
37% are not Employed and over 16 years old (BLS population)
40% not Employed using BLS over 16 Population minus Total Employed
- 108 Million People are on Welfare of some kind.
- So 33.9% of US Citizens are on Welfare
Anyone ever heard of the idea that the country works in spite of the president and not because of him? Looking at what Obama did to encourage job growth is probably better than looking at actual job growth. More people than Obama are working to make jobs in this country.
>>67912584
>>67924919
Yes, it is like 40 Million US People on Social Security or Retired.
>>67926417
THIS ONE DOES:
>>67921591
The one you retards have been parroting for years now.
>MUH 90 MILLION NOT IN LABOR FORCE
That's everyone 16+
THIS ONE THAT I SHOWED YOU IS WORKING AGE PARTICIPATION RATE:
>>67917402
It's exactly where it was under Reagan.
By the way, have you ever looked at the fucking U4, U5, U6 rates? They account for discouraged workers and underemployment.
They've all plummeted under Obama.
>>67913358
Look at the charts man.
This information isn't fucking secret.
I know your world is collapsing.
Just think about it. Isn't it possible that rwnj website have been duping the dumbest fucking retards on the planet, conservatives and Trumptards.
>>67926921
Record Low Labor Participation Rate Not Due to Retirement or School
http://www.economicpopulist.org/content/record-low-labor-participation-rate-not-due-retirement-or-school-5431
The labor participation rate is all of the people not infirm, in the military or locked up somewhere who are either employed or actively looking for work. When one calculates labor participate rates by age bracket, the aging population is already accounted for for the figure is calculated from the age of a person at that time. The Labor participation rate is the civilian labor force divided by the civilian noninstitutional population and by age, it is the same calculation.
>>67926909
It wasn't the worst recovery.
It's been a decent recovery. Pic related.
Yes it's been the longest recovery because the 2008 Great Bush Crash was the worst crash since the Republican Great Depression.
The worse the recession, the longer the recovery.
It's not rocket science.
Republicans need to stop crashing the economy and then blaming Democrats for taking too long to clean up their mess.
Obama said this perfectly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKv-dXHhtMs
>>67927117
Buddy get 1 thing straight.
THE WORKING AGE PARTIPCATION RATE IS EXACTLY WHERE IT WAS IN REAGAN'S 2ND TERM.
>>67917402
And yes the decline in the 16+ CLFPR is absolutely mostly due to retirement. 10,000 fucking baby boomers are retiring everyday. When they retire, they leave the labor force. Not complicated.
>>67926909
>>67922789
Yes, they continue to abuse worker rights though Transnationals and outsourcing jobs... and part time work.
And H1B and Truck driver VISAs, and Open Borders and blind eye to illegal workers and their employers.
Also property is being bought up by foreigners up to $31 Trillion dollars now.
Chinese just bought Sheraton/Marriott Hotels.
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/USNUM (total Banks)
http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/international/intinv/iip_glance.htm ($31 Trillion foreign in US property ownershipcompared to $25 Trillion in US Foreign ownership of property) (This is very interesting as Big Banks are growing strongly, but the number of total us banks is dramatically decreasing, like someone is gaming the system, Commercial Banks in the U.S. - FRED - St. Louis Fed)
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/ROWFDNQ027S Foreign Investment
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/GPDI Domestic Investment
https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/GPDIA Gross Private Domestic Investment
Money
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/mult (High was 1987, Up to Date, but looks like Crap, .769 is all)
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/M1V (High 2007, M1 seems to increase with Mortgages)
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/M2V (High 1997, M2 seems to show different bubble perhaps)
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/MZMV (MZM seems to show peak in Economy 1981)
Most people underestimate the damage to the economy by the Trade Imbalance (Trade Deficit as money leaks out of local, state, and national economies), but also the flat employment crushes the future of the middle class, and the sales of property and businesses and debt (like mortgage backed securities).
This is giving away out birth right.
After a Revolution you want a Land Rush or Land Reform. In the USA this was Farms. Now wealth & businesses being taken over by larger monopolies, banks, govt.
>>67926628
>40% not Employed using BLS over 16 Population minus Total Employed
Only Trumptarded morons think that millions upon millions of 60,70,80,90 year olds are WORKING AGE. How fucked in the head do you have to be to think that 80 year olds are unemployed?
When baby boomers retire, they LEAVE the labor force dummy.
The WORKING AGE labor force participation rate is exactly where it was in Reagan's 2nd term.
LOOK AT THE CHART AND WEEP BITCH.
>>67917402
Seriously though, what deep is your mental handicap for you to think that 80 year olds are unemployed? They're out of the labor force because they're fucking retired.
This is where Trump gets his 40% from? Christ he is way too retarded to be president.
Donald Trump says the unemployment rate may be 42 percent
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/30/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-unemployment-rate-may-be-42-perc/
PANTS ON FIRE
>>67928063
>The WORKING AGE labor force participation rate is exactly where it was in Reagan's 2nd term.
Our country doesn't invest in education, so there are jobs open that people aren't smart enough to get.
>>67912584
I have a job, a good high paying one. Most people do not. I will vote trump for them even though Hillary would be better for me.
>>67927376
Holy shit youre dumb, look at the time periods
>>67928518
ADMIT YOU WERE WRONG.
HERE YOU. WALL STREET JOURNAL ARTICLE.
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2015/10/21/what-we-know-about-the-92-million-americans-who-arent-in-the-labor-force/
I WON'T CALL YOU A RETARD I PROMISE.
Honestly man just admit it's a retarded fucking talking point. Please do that.
Isn't the truth important?
Look at the picture man. From the WSJ ffs.
>>67928672
are you in IT? If so, Trump would be the best for you. Won't raise your taxes, and won't be inviting indians on H1B wage slave contracts to replace you
>>67927117
I think I agree with you in all my posts.
>>67926233
>>67923523
>>67923139
>>67922973
>>67922789
>>67922789
Last one is strong.
OP is a faggot.
OP's chart for 25-55 years should show like 30% Trend growth (increase) in Workers as the population grows by 200,000 workers every month.
OP is a faggot.
>>67929070
Trump loves H1B. He said it in the debate. He bragged about how he uses it himself.
ANd of course he hires tons of people on H2B at Maralago.
Donald Trump Is an H2B-Visa Hypocrite
http://www.redstate.com/repair_man_jack/2015/09/25/donald-trump-h2b-visa-hypocrite/
>>67929126
Oh I'm going to debunk this
>>67922789
right now.
Thanks for reminding me. You people are retards if you think you need 200k per month to keep up with population growth.
Seriously you're retards.
The US takes in 1 million immigrants per year.
Under 1 million in 2013 actually. Last year available.
60-70% working age.
So let's 700,000 per year.
That's 58,333 per month to keep up with population growth.
Like I said you're retards.
Here you go
>Payroll gains averaging 80,000 a month will be enough to keep the U.S. jobless rate steady over the next couple of years as aging baby boomers retire and population growth slows, according to research by economists at the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago.
Those demographic trends will probably continue, pushing the figure down to about 35,000 jobs a month in the second half of this decade, the report said.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-06-06/chicago-fed-finds-80-000-jobs-enough-to-steady-u-s-unemployment
I'm going to reply to that other guy now.
>>67929126
Apologize for calling me a faggot when the retard lied to you claiming you need 200k per month just to keep up with population growth.
I was right he's wrong.
I gave you the correct information. You should thank me.
>>67926909
CNSNews.com posted a story.
New record for the USA in GDP growth below 2.7% for 10 years... worse than in the Great Depression as far as the data goes back.
http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/terence-p-jeffrey/blame-it-global-cooling-obama-has-lowest-average-1stq-gdp-growth-any
>>67929185
yeah he loves H1B, but he said repeatedly that he wants to reform it, upping the minimum salary for an H1B job offer.
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-position-on-visas
80%+ of H1Bs in IT are cheaper poo in loos, that's why all the Silicon Valley CEO kikes are going crazy over Trump
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/11/06/us/outsourcing-companies-dominate-h1b-visas.html?_r=0
>>67922789
Ok you made so many mistakes here I don't even know where to begin.
>No significate rise in Full and Part Time Jobs since 2007.
This is wrong on a few levels. First of all Obama hasn't been president since 2007. You didn't know that George Bush crashed the economy?
Why does your chart end in January 2014? Can you explain that? It's March 2016 now.
I linked the chart up to March 2016.
Significant job gains under Obama. In fact, America is currently on the longest job streak in American history, over 72 months.
See
>>67922562
>Also population growth requires 200,000 new jobs each month. That is MONTH.
As far as this. This is one of the most retarded things I've seen today. Where do you get your information from? Why are you lying to people?
The US takes in 1 million immigrants per year.
Under 1 million in 2013 actually. Last year available.
60-70% working age.
So let's 700,000 per year.
That's 58,333 per month to keep up with population growth.
Here you go:
>Payroll gains averaging 80,000 a month will be enough to keep the U.S. jobless rate steady over the next couple of years as aging baby boomers retire and population growth slows, according to research by economists at the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago.
Those demographic trends will probably continue, pushing the figure down to about 35,000 jobs a month in the second half of this decade, the report said.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-06-06/chicago-fed-finds-80-000-jobs-enough-to-steady-u-s-unemployment
Admit you lied and that you were just debunked by a leaf.
>>67913304
You're not right about that.
The crisis never ended at least not in Europe.
>>67929779
Is this GDP growth adjusted for population growth?
It's real GDP per capita growth that counts.
If you have higher population growth, you're going to have higher GDP growth.
>>67930057
We're talking about the USA.
Europe is fucked cause you allowed a horde of shitskins to invade your lands and rape your women.
All because some morons thought it would boost GDP growth.
>>67918357
To be fair you've only posted cringy reaction images and all caps for the last few posts
>>67927376
You are a fag.
Job growth should be strong trend line.
Oligarchs have sold out our country and destroy what Labor Rights we had after 150 years of fighting for them.
Globalism is Wealth Extraction. So is Usury and raising Property Taxes on Houses due to Inflation in Housing Prices (Market Bubbles are artifical and prone to collapse like stocks, bonds, or whatever Market)
Usury
Debt Based Money Creation in place of Labor creating value.
Stewardship of the World Reserve Currency is on path to collapse of the US Dollar.
$63 Trillion in Total US Debt can never be repaid.
oh and OP is a Fag or paid shill.
OP should get a real job to get trained in something.
>>67912584
>a fucking leaf
>>67928853
Shadow Stats is better.
WSJ is a warmonger.
WSJ will never tell you that we spend $1 Trillion annually on MIC... while they will post about the terrible state of the Military Preparedness.
WSJ is total shill for War Spending and Defense Contractors.
>>67930357
No that is irrelevant. Europe is screwed because ECB saving banks with 0% loans leading eventually to negative interest rates with banks. Budget deficits don't get compensated at the moment ( we have 3% since it usually gets balanced out in a year with interest but with none happening governments just keep piling up debt).
The shitskins just tax the social wellfare system a lot but massive financial problems would've happened regardless of them coming.
If the crisis gets worse in Spain and Italy Euro coin will be doomed which will trigger a chain into the US. And it will get worse it isn't sustainable for 3-4 more years I would say.
>>67919498
>manufacturing jobs plummet after Clinton approves NAFTA
Your point?
>>67928853
It says they aren't included in the labor force figures
What the hell are you talking about
>So most 16- to 20 year-olds are not in the labor force because they’re in school. Most people over 65 are not in the labor force because they’re retired. This behavior is not particularly mysterious.
>>67916022
There is no excuse for being a NEET.
If you can't find a job then make one.
Off your ass fuckboi!
>>67912584
>convert all my low wage full time employees to 2 part time employees
>College graduation at an all time high
>post lots of job openings, but require 5+ years of experience
>look through 100 resumes, hire Xian Dang with 3.93 GPA an pay him $23/hr after giving him 60-80 hour weeks
Lol Obama sure fixed the economy.
>>67912584
90% of those are part time jobs. It isn't better for the economy if you remove good paying jobs for part time ones. Now someone has to work 2-3 lousy jobs instead of one good job.
The Obama administration is doing whatever it can now to hide the recession we're already in because it would mean Hillary would lose automatically. Don't be fooled by it.
>>67930815
You're only bitching about WSJ because you can't dispute the fact that it's retarded to count 80 year olds as unemployed. They're retired. They're not in the labor force for a reason.
Trump is a retard for thinking 80 year olds are unemployed.
Shadowstats is for retards. The charts are just made up. I've looked at the info. It's a joke.
>>67931019
The Clinton economy created 23 million private sector jobs. That's the best record in Canadian history.
Here is the caption for the picture I attached. Read it and weep.
>U.S. President George H. W. Bush, and Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney, at the initialing of the draft North American Free Trade Agreement in October 1992.
>>67930123
You have to subtract government spending from the GDP.
So what number would you use?
Less than $16 Trillion Real GDP minus $4 Trillion in Government Debt Spending each year?
What about the appalling, inflated Health Care Spending in the USA... or Inflated costs for Education or Housing? How do you reduce the amount spend on these things above the true value level?
If you have Inflated
- Federal Government Spending
- Health Care Spending
- Drugs Spending
- Housing Spending
- Education Spending
- $1 Trillion Annually for the Military
- St Augustine's laws
We just end up losing our wealth and our middle class to become just like London.
In fact we have a Debt-Based, Trade & services Economy with emphasis on Financial Services (You know it) and employing people over seas to increase the profits of the few (you know it).
Some of the Larger Problems are Military Spending, Huge Expanding Federal Debt Spending, Overall Debt, Usury Payments, Trade Imbalance, poor steward ship of our Currency (world reserve currency) and Rentier Behavior.
Where are the stats that show the money flowing to the Accounts of the Wealthy Elites or those with advantages?
Don't they track where the money goes, where the money sits stagnant, who is hoarding the money, which kinds of investments are good and work for the economy and which ones are Mal-investment particularly in the QE, Operation Twist, Tarp, Bailouts, and LIRP Interest Rates?
There is Mal-investment.
You need people like Thomas Pikety and Michael Hudson to correct the stats/data and publish.
You are one of those guys that is a believer and never sees or talks about the corruption.
Moral Hazard abounds today because they believe the people are easily deceived and lead.
USA is selling out it's Property, Wealth, Freedom, Work Rights, Currency, Political System, and Middle Class.
Check pension fund health in UK or USA. How many retirements are gone now. Ready for new taxes.
>>67931100
OMFG are you retarded?
THE TITLE OF THE ARTICLE IS:
What We Know About the 92 Million Americans Who Aren’t in the Labor Force
Yeah you retards thought that 80 year olds were unemployed. They're not.
Trump thinks the unemployment rate is 40%.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/30/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-unemployment-rate-may-be-42-perc/
Why can't you just be a man and admit you were wrong.
>>67931597
>90% of those are part time jobs.
Source?
They're actually 95% full time.
Why are you lying?
>>67924075
>>67926997
lol
texas created these jobs, not obama
>>67929185
what is the total number of:
illegals
h1b
h2b
>>67932559
I'm talking about the jobs currently being created. Notice the drop in August of 2015. This is when the markets tumbled because of China. The recession started at the end of last year. Now all "jobs" being created, which amount to about 250k a month, are part time. I'm not saying that all jobs Obama ever created are part time. I'm saying the ones he's supposedly creating NOW are. And NOW means since the last quarter.
He's doing this to hide the recession we're in because it's election year. It's going to blow up next year because it isn't sustainable. If you paid any attention to the markets you'd know there's a lot of shady shit going on and tons of volatility since the start of the year because people realize that shit's about to hit the fan.
>>67932694
I don't know. I know you guys think I'm a genius (I am), but am I supposed to know everything?
Do your own research retard.
Why did Republicas quadruple the number of H2B's?
GOP Legislators Push Plan That Could Replace Americans, Import 264,000 Foreign Workers
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/05/gop-legislators-push-plan-replace-americans-import-264000-foreign-workers/
Why does Trump hire foreign workers instead of Americans?
Donald Trump Is an H2B-Visa Hypocrite
http://www.redstate.com/repair_man_jack/2015/09/25/donald-trump-h2b-visa-hypocrite/
>>67912584
I think we should have a revolution and I think we should start killing people. You're first. Come around now, don't be shy, I'll shoot you quick. It won't hurt a bit. Just a pin prick, a little shock, a slight tremor in the life force. Your body crumples, your mind rumples, your being puffles and pumbles, bimbles and bilges, bulges and blorches, bilches and boils, boggles and babbles, and we just laugh, we go ha ha ha he he he ha ha ha ho ho ho he he he ha ha ha ho ho ho he he he ya da da
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My job: make death threats against strangers
>>67912584
Why do you make this thread 3 times a day? Obama is shit. He had nothing to do with this at all.
>>67932494
Answer this you stupid fucking worthless leaf.
Why is the participation rate 88.2% for men ages 25 to 54? That's 21.8% NOT WORKING WHO AREN'T RETIRED.
I AM RIGHT. YOU ARE WRONG, YOU FUCKING LEAF
http://www.bls.gov/emp/ep_table_303.htm
>>67912584
Can't wait to get my hands on one of those awesome shitty low paying part time jobs. Great. I can taste the soul crushing disappointment right now.
>>67912584
>openings
And?
It would be better if more were working and hired
What openings are they anyways?
>>67933162
/pol/ isn't republican you mongoloid.
>>67912584
You've got it backwards there, cucko. It's the libtards complaining about "muh no jobs".
>>67917402
>>67920849
>>67932494
You realize 65 is the retirement age, right?
Only one in five are ready to retire too
>Among oldest Americans, 1 in 5 dies broke
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/04/29/among-oldest-americans-1-in-5-dies-broke.html
>>67912584
shut the fuck up you canadian faggot, you're one of those retards that thinks shipping in shitskins=economy.
>>67934479
>Why is the participation rate 88.2% for men ages 25 to 54? That's 21.8% NOT WORKING
We got a fucking genius here.
Brilliant math there bro.
Why do you keep changing your argument? That's not what we originally started arguing about.
Are you just trying to deflect now?
Why won't you admit that you're a fucking retard for thinking that 80 year olds are unemployed?
Will you admit you were wrong when you said that the CLPFR isn't everyone 16+?
Why won't you do that? Why are all right wingers such disgusting, filthy liars who won't admit when they're wrong.
>I AM RIGHT. YOU ARE WRONG, YOU FUCKING LEAF
What did I say that I was wrong about?
You just brought up a whole new argument. It's pathetic. You won't admit you were wrong about the previous one.
Nice math by the way bro.
>Why is the participation rate 88.2% for men ages 25 to 54? That's 21.8% NOT WORKING
Are you actually studying macroeconomics? You're welcome for fucking educating you today.
You got a fucking education and a half you retard.
You thought 92 million people were unemployed you fucking retard.
How stupid do you feel?
>>67934959
No it's the Trumptards.
>>67935042
So you agree with Bernie that we need to strengthen social security?
>>67935299
>Brilliant math there bro.
you got me there (on phone)
still 11.8% is high for working men out of school and not retired
>>67935425
It's broken, the whole thing needs to be gotten rid of.
Canada bro, you wouldn't be seeing so many people backing Sanders and Trump (populists) if the economy was great and people were largely having a good time. The government and the media is lying about how well people are doing and the evidence is in how many people are so desperate that they vote for Sanders and Trump.
>>67935563
Dude look I'm open to an honest and intellectual conversation but can you please at least be sincere and admit that you were wrong the CLFPR and that I was right.
Can you also admit that it's a retarded right wing talking point to claim that MUH 93 million are out of the labor force when most of that is retired old people and kids in high school. They're not unemployed.
Stop trying to deflect for a second and be honest about those things and then I'll be more than happy to address this NEW argument you're making.
Deal?
>>67935705
>67935705
That should help with the elderly being impoverished that you were just complaining about.
When does Trump propose scrapping Social Security? I look forward to him getting BTFO
>>67935861
>Deal?
I'm going to email BLS later and find out
I always understood labor participation didn't include retirees.
Trump included them to get to his 40% figure
This thread is all the evidence needed to prove that the shilling is real.
>>67935796
I'm not denying there is massive income inequality and that far too much money is going to the top 1% and especially the top 0.1%. That's a separate issue.
That is a legitimate concern for Bernie voters and they have real solution to income inequality.
Trumpfags are retards who have bought into a snake oil salesman who is going to dramatically cut taxes for the wealthy and get rid of the estate tax which only affects the top 0.3%.
I also agree that wage growth is lagging but then when you ask Trumptards if we should raise the minimum wage they say no. I'm all for raising the minimum wage.
I also recognize that it's because billion dollar corporations are ripping off their workers. Trumptards don't even want to address that,.
H1B and H2b are a huge scam. Bernie is the only one who's going to do something about it.
Trump uses them both.
Donald Trump Is an H2B-Visa Hypocrite
http://www.redstate.com/repair_man_jack/2015/09/25/donald-trump-h2b-visa-hypocrite/
>>67936224
I'm just stating facts and backing them up whereas Trumptards are so fucking stupid they think that 80 year olds are unemployed.
Donald Trump says the unemployment rate may be 42 percent
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/30/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-unemployment-rate-may-be-42-perc/
It's only 42% if you count millions upon millions of old people as unemployed.
>>67912584
Let us recall for a moment, that most of these jobs
are dead-end and low pay, the kind that are taken up by desperate immigrants - and while they may get by having a household of eight where at least six members work minimum wage, modern western nucleic families - three, four members in general, one member only works - will be almost impossible to cope with the soaring life cost this 'economic boom' will bring about
>>67936098
Buddy now you're just not being dishonest.
You claimed above that the CLFPR excluded a bunch of groups of people. It doesn't. It's simply EVERYONE 16+.
So which one is it now?
Did you not read this article?
What We Know About the 92 Million Americans Who Aren’t in the Labor Force
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2015/10/21/what-we-know-about-the-92-million-americans-who-arent-in-the-labor-force/
>>67929460
you do relize that people are born, right? like, people fuck and give birth to new citizens? like, a country doesn't only get new citizens through immigration?
you need to be banned
>>67933154
this. listen to my this friendly Brazilian.
>>67936594
>Buddy now you're just not being honest.
TYPO
>>67936098
>>67933162
>comes on to make a thread about research
>gets asked a question because he's done so much research
>"IVE DONE MY RESEARCH BRO"
>>67935299
so how many people are retired? cause i know this number, but i bet you don't.
>>67936857
Wtf? I'm supposed to answer every fucking question thrown at me?
You can easily look up the answer to those questions.
I'm still waiting to hear why the Republicans quadrupled the number of H2Bs.
GOP Legislators Push Plan That Could Replace Americans, Import 264,000 Foreign Workers
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/05/gop-legislators-push-plan-replace-americans-import-264000-foreign-workers/
Why does Trump hire foreign workers instead of Americans?
Donald Trump Is an H2B-Visa Hypocrite
http://www.redstate.com/repair_man_jack/2015/09/25/donald-trump-h2b-visa-hypocrite/
>>67936716
okay, i think i remember now... you're a schizo, right? like, you have serious mental problems, right?
>>67936620
look at the flag
>>67936990
Is that an exact concrete number?
Here is the reason for why each age group is not in the labor force.
The bulk of it is old people and kids in high school.
Will you admit right wingers are morons for thinking 92 million are unemployed.
Will you also admit that Donald Trump is a complete moron for thinking the REAL unemployment rate is 40%?
>>67937129
I mistyped dishonest instead of honest.
Typos mean someone is schizo?
>>67936318
He's not going only to cut taxes for the wealthy, but encourage them through various measures to invest back in the US. For instance, corporate inversions. See what this guys says about this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsN0WVLjpcs#t=23m50s (only 2-3 minutes). Trump has a chance of actually doing something about this.
What you fucking Bernie people don't understand is that raising taxes means businesses will leave the US. Your own country, Canada, over the last 15 years dramatically reduced their corporate taxation and now it's a really attractive country for lots of businesses to place their headquarters in, because they don't get taxed as much as in the US.
Lower taxes = more incentives for businesses to operate in that country = more money invested in the economy.
Also, Trump being an hypocrite is irrelevant. He also sells shit made in China. If as a business person you don't compete properly you'll go out of business. The way to change is not to go out of business yourself, but to change the law.
>>67937325
so you're saying that people over the age of retirement still work in the labor force?
>>67937222
>>67936620
You think newborn babies are looking for jobs?
What mental handicap do you suffer from?
>you need to be banned
Really? Why? You're the one who thinks newborn babies are looking for jobs. How fucking retarded are you.
Why would job growth have to keep up with newborn babies?
Why are right wingers the biggest retards on the planet?
>>67937589
are you saying that babies don't increase the population? that they don't grow older and eventually enter the labor force? that only immigrants can?
>>67937547
Yes of course. What's your point?
Almost ALL of the 92 million that aren't in the labor force don't want a job. They are not unemployed. They are either retired, still in high school, in university, doing retraining, disabled, or taking care of family.
Look at the chart please, moron.
Donald Trump says the unemployment rate may be 42 percent
PANTS ON FIRE LIE
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/30/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-unemployment-rate-may-be-42-perc/
>>67937800
Jesus Christ you're a fucking retard bro.
Read the fucking article I fucking linked.
You morons thought that the US needs 200,000 new jobs per month to keep up with population growth.
That's wrong.
Why are you asking retarded questions? Why are you making your stupidity, my problem?
Read the fucking information I've already linked so you can educated yourself.
READ THIS RIGHT HERE:
>Payroll gains averaging 80,000 a month will be enough to keep the U.S. jobless rate steady over the next couple of years as aging baby boomers retire and population growth slows, according to research by economists at the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago.
Those demographic trends will probably continue, pushing the figure down to about 35,000 jobs a month in the second half of this decade, the report said.
Chicago Fed Finds 80,000 Jobs Will Steady U.S. Unemployment
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-06-06/chicago-fed-finds-80-000-jobs-enough-to-steady-u-s-unemployment
Stop being a retard. Try to at least show that you have a brain.
>>67912584
http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/09/news/economy/america-5-6-million-record-job-openings/
>Bad news: The number of job openings could be a reflection of companies not finding the right candidates. Many Americans don't have the skills that those available jobs require. It's called the job skills gap, and it has become a serious problem in the U.S.
I read this article recently.
These are all open jobs, which means companies can't find people to fill them. Instead of training people to fill these jobs, companies resort to complaining to the government. "We can't find people to fill these jobs! its your fault government! its your fault education system! We need more immigrants! I'm not going to train someone to fill this job."
Was this guy a shill? Or a pol psyops to make us hate progressives even more?
>>67937874
what i see is about 60m people that could enter the labor force. (this is the number you get when you exclude 65+ from the 90m) out of 320m people, there's not that many people actually paying their taxes.
>>67938103
how many natural born citizens turn 16 every month/quarter/year?
>you're retarded bro
>fucking moron
>why are you stupid
>fucking retard
If you want anyone to ever take you seriously, you should learn to be nice. You're extremely aggressive and offensive, and I am sure you suffer from schizophrenia.
>this many people have quit their jobs to go on welfare thanks to Obama
>>67938135
Post the real one, faggot.
>>67912584
>part time jobs
ye leave your full time for 2 part time. job growth
>>67938788
Lefties are literally only capable of saying "you're le dumb if you disagree with me" and IRL they'll maybe make a smug laugh as well i.e. Carl
John Stewart, Stephen Colbert, Ugly British Man have basically created this horde of low-info libtards that think this constitutes a legit argument
>>67912946
It would be mid-wage jobs if you raised the minimum wage
>>67912584
Most of those firms aren't serious about their openings. They're advertising those openings to see who or what 'swims' along. You never know when a diamond may float by in a turd pond, in which case they wouldn't want to pass it up. They don't have any intention to actually fill most of those positions. My proof of this is simple...
>"Five years experience, 5 outstanding references, and a masters degree are all required for a job paying $25k a year."
>>67912584
>The unemployment rate is down to 4.9%
when unemployment really is under 5% wages rise
but wages are not rising, they are stagnant.
>>67940824
Exactly. Stagnant or falling wages are a sign of increasing demand in the economy. So far there is no sign of a serious increase in demand.
>>67938788
>>67939407
>how many natural born citizens turn 16 every month/quarter/year?
Nowhere near as many as baby boomers that are retiring.
Why do you keep asking stupid questions?
10,000 baby boomers are retiring every day.
Read the fucking information.
Chicago Fed Finds 80,000 Jobs Will Steady U.S. Unemployment
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-06-06/chicago-fed-finds-80-000-jobs-enough-to-steady-u-s-unemployment
If you only need 80,000 jobs to keep up with population growth, but you're creating over 200,000 jobs every month.
Guess what happens.
THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE GOES DOWN.
GET IT?
>>67940824
Wages are rising but I agree with you we need to raise the minimum wage and also that corporations are ripping off their workers.
>>67912584
Jobs are available after a recession ends. More at 11.
>>67939777
They've been trained and programmed to be against raising the minimum wage.
But then they complain wages aren't high enough.
Can you believe the stupidity?
>>67939110
95% full time Obama job growth.
>>67924075
