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>atheist couples make less children
>atheists are open minded about non-orthodox relationships like cuckolding and open-marriage
>atheists tend to be feminists
>atheists tend to vote left
>European countries with high levels of atheism are the same who will be dominated by Islam in the future

Why natural selection is never on the side of atheists? Mother nature (God) way to improve humans?
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>>68663345

> Atheists
> Open minded

Pick one.
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>>68663406
At least when it come to sex, they are the most "open minded" group of all.
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>>68663655

I concider Atheists to be the opposite of open minded.

Not even defending religion here guys, calm down.

But how big of a cock are you, if you're not allowing any one to have religion of their own?


> Hi I'm a Christian. I believe in God.

> Hi I'm a Atheists. Your God isn't real.

> Why not, Atheist?

> I didn't see him. Therefore he isn't real.
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>>68663406
>Dutch
>Tolerant
>Success breeding jealousy
>Much

Pick one.
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>>68663881

> Moving Goal Posts to make a point

> Pick one

I pick Dutch. Since it's better than being in Australia.
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>>68663803
In a "universal" sense, you are pretty much right.
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>>68663803
Because atheists are the only "religion" it's okay to discriminate against.
Islam literally instructs its followers to kill apostates and liberal cucks still defend that faith over atheism.
Plus, religion delays progress, it's natural that atheists would be resentful towards those they see as holding humanity back.
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I'm an atheist and I strongly believe in traditional values. Homosexuality is also unnatural by definition given the fact that it's not the norm in nature.

I might be one of the few exceptions to this rule, but degeneracy is not caused by atheism. Degeneracy is caused by the willingness of weak minded people to accept the horse shit that's constantly shoved down their throats.

Monkey see monkey do.
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>>68663406
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>>68663345
>>atheists are open minded about non-orthodox relationships like cuckolding and open-marriage

I'm agnostic, and while I'm not interested in these types of relationships myself, I don't really care if other people choose to have them.
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>>68664303

> It's natural that atheists would be resentful towards those they see as holding humanity back

Atheists still celebrate Christmas.

>>68664404

> Debunking opinion with shitty meme

Fuck off Romania.
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>>68663345
>t. foot licker
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Atheism is a communist lie and the root of all degeneracy
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>>68664303
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_Nobel_laureates

>According to 100 Years of Nobel Prize (2005), a review of Nobel prizes awarded between 1901 and 2000, 65.4% of Nobel Prize Laureates, have identified Christianity in its various forms as their religious preference (423 prizes).[5] Overall, Christians have won a total of 78.3% of all the Nobel Prizes in Peace,[6] 72.5% in Chemistry, 65.3% in Physics,[6] 62% in Medicine,[6] 54% in Economics[6] and 49.5% of all Literature awards.[6]

>The three primary divisions of Christianity are Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, and Protestantism. Between 1901 and 2000 it was revealed that among 654 Laureates 31.8% have identified Protestant in its various forms (208 prize),[7] 20.3% were Christians (no information about their denominations; 133 prize),[7] 11.6% have identified as Catholic[7] and 1.6% have identified as Eastern Orthodox.[7] Christians make up over 33.2% of the worlds population [8][9][10][11] and have earned 65.4% of Nobel prizes.[5]
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>>68663803
>I believe in God.

>Through which sensory medium did you witness Him?

>I just know


Uhhhh. I don't agee for the following sciency reasons,
>In linguistics, evidentiality is, broadly, the indication of the nature of evidence for a given statement; that is, whether evidence exists for the statement and/or what kind of evidence exists:
>Witness vs. nonwitness
>Firsthand vs. secondhand vs. thirdhand
>Sensory
>Visual vs. nonvisual (i.e. auditory, olfactory, etc.)
>Inferential
>Reportative
>Hearsay
>Quotative
>Assumed

I will only, ONLY, listen to you preach about your God if you do it in Qiang, Washo, Pirahã or a related Muran language with clear evidential categories. Telling me about God in English is no different than telling me about Groth or Smerfno. They don't mean anything out of context, they don't even imply that they DO anything, not even necessarily exist! They're just noises.

http://wals.info/feature/77A Here are the languages you should be studying if you want to be more... tolerant. Tell me where god fits in to a part of the physical world. Tell me where he stops being an imaginary color/shape/smell and starts being... well, a being.
Did I move the goalposts far enough for you?
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>>68664957

I'm not defending religion. Stop trying to argue with me over religion.
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>>68664566
dont you have some teeth to clean,colgate?
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The logical conclusion of atheism is nihlism.

Its hilarious to see atheists try to take the moral highground.

If there is no God; there is no value to human life, since we are of no consequence in a universe without meaning.

To speak of morals when life has no value is absurd.
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>>68664303
>religion delays progress

If that was true, Sweden would be the scientific leader of the planet (since they have one of the most secular societies of history). You can't talk about social "progress" if you can't even make babies with your girlfriend, you need to sustain a reasonable growing civilization in the first place.
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>>68664957

> Did I move the goalposts far enough for you?

I can't see them anymore.
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>Whites, High IQ, people and High income people have lower birthrates than spics, low IQ people and low income people
>This makes them inferior

Kiss Feet faggot
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>>68664566
What's your point? Christmas for atheists is about family and free shit.
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>>68665042

> Dont you have some teeth to clean, colgate?
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>>68665067
>>Inferential

Sounds like the way to a meaningful life is a book of horseshit written by backwards Semites 2500 years ago, then.
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>>68665144

Atheists saying religion is to be removed, while still celebrating a religious holiday, are retarded.
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>>68664890
Okay, please present in-depth analysis of each winner's beliefs and whether they actually followed their religious texts pls.
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>>68664675
>tfw the Pope kisses women's feet.
>some celibate old man gets more foot action than you do
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>>68665074
By your definition of progress, African countries should be among the leaders in the world since they mate so much, along with India and China.
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>>68665315
It's not celebrating a holiday, it's joining one's family in celebrating it, at least for me.
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>>68665123
Butmad that your genes will be drowned by latinos and blacks? Go vote Donald Trump, he will make a silly wall that will be destroyed once your own "high IQ people" elect another white democrat.
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>>68665722

> At least for me

Well there you go. You're incorrect by default.

> Atheist hanging on to religious holiday because it makes him feel good

> 'But God doesn't exist though. Neither does Jesus'.
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>>68665846

Why did I laugh at this
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>>68663345
>atheist

>want to have as many kids as I have the time and resources to raise properly (three sounds nice)
>only interested in a traditional relationship with a traditional wife
>definitely not a feminist
>center-right
>fucking hate Islam

What am I?
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>>68663345
>European countries with high levels of atheism are the same who will be dominated by Islam in the future

>What is the Czech Republic
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>>68665601
The funny thing is: They will.

Your country will be China in the next 100 years.
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if you unironically believe in a fucking sky-fairy then you're a fucking retard

ill get the fedora pic out of the way
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>>68663406
this.

>muh hyperrationalism
>ban all dreams and fantasy
>there is no afterlife, s-stop believing in that
>what do you mean you're on the verge of existential crisis because you can't stomach death? you should be totally okay with only 80-somewhat pathetic years on earth.
>first there was nothing and from that everything came to be lol
>I can't grasp the concept of metaphysics but I'm not mentall ill or autistic, I swear!
>what do you mean more atheists are usually more likely to be autists than normal people?
>boy, I sure enjoy the gifts atheism bears, like...uh..uh...uhmm....
>who needs spiritual guidance in life anyways
>there is only the materialist plane and nothing more!
>*tips fedora*

atheists are the worst.
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>>68665894
because its in your genes to show off your shiny clean teeth at any oportunity
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>>68665067
>To speak of morals when life has no value is absurd.

exactly. I mean, how do atheists even get up every morning? they are all shallow as fuck.
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>>68663345
Atheists share next to nothing in common with each other besides their disbelief and sometimes their superiority over theists.

There are people who have convinced themselves they are atheist but hop right on the SJW bandwagon instead.

Believe me, they are cucks, but atheists? No, they just replaced their religion with another one.

Take any group that is raised without a core set of principles and you have yourself an easy mark, it's why even as an atheist I'm going to raise my kids with christian values.

The whole point of leaving religion behind wasn't to ignore all its values like the SJW atheists would have you believe. It's so I can read religious texts, take what I find useful, and throw the rest away without being a hypocrite who gets to pick and choose what is and isn't "the word of God".
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It seems as if a religion (or something like it) is necessary to keep people from acting like total degenerates. Nowadays progressivism seems to be the new thing, liberals are more passionate about shit like feminism than anything having to do with God.

Still, the fact that atheism is shit for human civilization, doesn't mean God exists. Just means that humanity works best when they're promised a cozy afterlife if they follow the rules.
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>>68665033
You are defending the idea that atheism is somehow a more closed category than theism. Humans are naturally predisposed to repeat what others say and only rationalise it later. To let them have "their own beliefs" is to leave them stranded in a world of nursery rhymes where they can equate every educational opportunity with an opposing "well maybe you're wrong". Sure, it's fine and good when they're in school questioning a teacher, but what about when someone denies them sex, or hurts their feelings? The only sensible approach is to teach scientific methodology, and give the facts. In the case of skygod religion, there are none. You can believe what you want until you are treating your children with homoeopathy medication, or cutting pieces of skin away. These ideas don't come out of nowhere, they come from rote learning of non-facts. Take theistic belief away and the next-to-highest powers will be questioned - "Why cure with prayer? Why restrict our meat intake on this specific friday? Does that ACTUALLY work for the government or the king?"

once skygod the invisible is gone, the people are free to question authority figures that are able to directly respond, and often those people are just a network of pedophiles without any real knowledge or care about your own life's improvement. Seeing that as the real face of "god" ought to give kids a much better understanding of the way the world really works than some fiction about luxury aged care apartments floating in the clouds

>>68665096
^_^
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>>68666771
>Atheists share next to nothing in common with each other besides their disbelief

pretty sure only the most autistic personality types flock towards atheism. the most common type is some close-minded STEM degree fedora who masturbates over the altar of science and "muh empirical evidence" and refuses to think past that.

it's rarely the liberal arts, philosophy or medicine or even law career people.

funnily enough, when shit is about to hit the fan or political debates get a little heated, posters like you show up and act like they share no views, are completely apolitical and that atheism has no history (well, it shouldn't anyway but still). it's kinda hilarious.
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>>68666771
>Take any group that is raised without a core set of principles and you have yourself an easy mark, it's why even as an atheist I'm going to raise my kids with christian values.

You can't sustain Christian culture without the figure of Christ as God and Creator of the universe. You can say that you can do it with your family (and I admire that as a Christian myself), but I can't see your children and the children of your children doing the same. Because the soil of this "culture" you will be teaching is sandy and merely based on social conveniences.
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>>68667886
Familialism is not specific to christianity. I hope you never have kids.
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>>68663803

> Hi I'm a Christian. I decided that god exists and everyone who doesn't believe me I will call an atheist.

> Hi I'm a Unicorn. I decided that unicorn exists and everyone who doesn't believe me I will call a corneist

> Hi I'm a bus. I decided that bus exists and everyone who doesn't believe me I will call a buseist

What do you have to say about that buseists, you intolerant pieces of shit, honkhu honkbar!
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>>68668357
Ok, Fedora. Go have more than 2 children, when you get the 3rd, you will be considering suicide or abortion, like good materialistic pieces of shit you're.
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>>68663345
This /pol/ is christian meem is getting out of hand
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>>68664303
>Because atheists are the only "religion" it's okay to discriminate against.
Triggered
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>>68668408
If you start picking up little kids and giving them rides. Expect a crusade, heretic.
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>>68663345
Atheism is the enabler of all sorts of weird stuff I don't want in my life but then the Laws are for the wicked and not for the Just. If they really want to live in a lawless and wicked society. Its exactly what they'll get.
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>>68668408
>decided
God decided that some of us should know he exists. We don't just believe, we know.
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>>68663345
>Why natural selection is never on the side of atheists? Mother nature (God) way to improve humans?
Because we're built to be religious.

>>68663406
>>68663803
Kek, pretty much. It's rare to find open-minded atheists. Well, except for sex.

>>68666050
>>68667649
This has been my experience, as well.
God, I don't miss being an atheist at all. What a dark time in my life.

Even going from a purely Machiavellian outlook, religion is better for people and society.
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>>68663345
>am a lifelong atheist since being introduced to the concept of ethereal superbeings
>married a church-going Mormon girl at 20 years old
>turned 31 years old last week and have maintained a faithful, monogamous relationship with no signs of slowing all this time
>our children are both considered "gifted"
>my wife has abandoned her faith for agnosticism
>literally none of this bogeyman strawman bullshit "funny hat" association shit ever happened in our lives at all
>so I can't seem to understand what being an atheist or a Christfag has to do with any of it
wew story, lad
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>>68670454
>>68670120
>>68669997
>>68669669
>>68669522
>>68669309
>>68669309
>>68669309
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>>68668825
>not posting the best bus

FAGGOT
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>>68670166
>This has been my experience, as well.
>God, I don't miss being an atheist at all. What a dark time in my life.

Worst part of my life tbqh. When you truthfully believe in God, life is good even when its hard, your spirit have a place and meaning in the vast chaotic universe. Its really good to get back home, a place where your soul really belongs.
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>>68668408

> Implying Christians called non believers atheists
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>>68671112
Totally this. I've been through ups and downs in terms of what life has brought my way since, but I've been happier since.

I've met new people, made new friends, I'm happier with my life, I have a stronger bond with the community and so much more. I can see why anti-religious people hate it: it lets people be happy and makes it difficult for them to fuck shit up.
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>>68671112
>>68671602

I don't understand the illusion of having to choose between the two. Being totally religious, or being totally anti religious.
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>>68672113
Then be religious but moderately lukewarm.
Life will still be far better.
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most people on this board should seriously consider celibacy

we are too damaged to be worth marrying but can contribute more to society by teaching and studying as monks or priests or any other celibate lifestyle.

I don't think the average 4channer would benefit society by marrying and reproducing, sorry to say.
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>Mormons
>Christian

Pick one, Francis
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>>68672113
You can always be a coward instead.
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>>68664756
actually no, the root of all degeneracy is technology and industrialization.


that is what seduced the masses into secularism in the first place.

there's a reason the Amish are the only ones saving the white race in the US.
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>>68672358

Nice. A third option.

> Extreme religion
> Extreme anti religion
> Coward
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>>68670577
high intelligence can be caused by demonic possession.

Swallow the real redpill. High IQ is meaningless and can actually be a bad thing. it's the fools God uses to shame the wise.
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>>68663345
This is true: no successful widely atheistic society has ever existed.

You might find this interesting, OP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODZ-RUufHgI
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>>68672479
Believing that the truth resides in the milde therm of two OPPOSITE options is the extremism of cowardice.
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>>68670577
>church-going Mormon
Also related, "a straight-talking politician" and "innocent criminal".

Protip: the Mormon so-called "church" is a den of thieves and heresiarchs.
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>>68673075
well there's Singapore, which is arguably successful but it's still dying out due to being majority professionals with low birthrates.

imo, too much intelligence and eduation is a bad thing. an ideal eugenic society where everyone is a genius is impossible, because a "dumb" yet faithful underclass forms foundation of society. You can't have a fully "intellectual" society, it's impossible.

It's really better to not even require literacy among the masses, as was the case for hundreds of years.
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>>68672615
>Swallow the real redpill. <insert retarded claim here>
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>>68673574
look up the origin of the word "genius"

hint: it comes from Genie/djinni aka a demon

it was widely held that geniuses were possessed .
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>>68673443
>if he won't buy into my stupid rhetoric about atheists, maybe he'll buy into my stupid rhetoric about Mormons
The fact that I married a "heretic" should make you feel even more full of shit.
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>>68664303
progress, even Technological progress is largely cancer or at least has been since the mid 1800s.


If not for the industrial revolution most of us would be living happy lives with a loyal wife and our own farm.
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>>68673676
>Guys, look, I discovered that this disease is actually caused by a microscopic organism, which brings into question why the Church is telling us it's a spiritual curse.
Of course they're going to respond to people who call them out on bullshit with more bullshit.
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>>68674100
>>implying germ theory isn't quite possibly a lie
>>implying it isn't a spiritual curse

go read up on a man named Royal Rife.
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>>68663345
Atheist also have an absurdly higher non-divorce rate among married atheists than just about everyone else..Hows that sanctity of marriage workin out for ya?
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Can I be an atheist and still believe in Santa?
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The screen you're looking at now is the modern realization of John Dee the sorcerer's black mirror he used to scry demons with.
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>>68663803
So atheists should just treat grown adults like a little child introducing you to their imaginary friend? What?
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>>68674174
>watch closely as I completely reform my beliefs and everything we've ever said in light of this discovery and then claim we were right all along
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>>68665315
A "religious" Holiday that was usurped from the pagans in order to make THEM conform? Hmmm...That stupid history running around just repeating itself.
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>>68674471
>>68674471
>>plato

even being a heathen he realized the Allegory of the Cave was a thing. That is exactly what I'm getting at.
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>>68673537
>imo, too much intelligence and eduation is a bad thing.

Its just a form of dumbness in the end of the day. People can be "intelligent" on things that doesn't matter at all. In that sense, a illiterate peasant is way more blessed with intelligence than a Cultural Critic with high IQ.
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>>68674587
This will get attacked by the catholics ITT but I believe Santa and modern Christmas was always a pagan invention of Satan.

google: doctrine of the nicolaitans

basically the whole veneer of 'christmas' originated with a pedophilic cult of old bearded perverts who liked to exchange gifts and have orgies
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>>68664303
Religion delays regress
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>>68674696
I even think that I don't deserve literacy and neither do most people in the world today.

I wish I could forget how to read, I'd be better off for it.
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>>68673676

How does athiests come from god0-believers??

>>>68673574
>look up the origin of the word "genius"

I only have one reference book, the bible. Its not in the bible, therefore it doesn't exist.

>it was widely held that geniuses were possessed .

It was also widely held that so many people were possessed they needed to be tied to a stake and burned to death to check for da djinny djinn djinn.
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>>68674595
>Allegory of the Cave
Inconclusive. It's not an argument in favor of ethereal superbeings any more than fairies in the garden making the roses bloom.

A deity might indeed exist. I'm still not concerned with whether he'll throw me in a bonfire for all eternity.
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>>68674279
You can be anything you want, darling. :^)
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>>68674408
We should.

I do it all the time, it's great. They get really offended when it occurs to them that even though I make complete sense and I can straight up drop a fucking sermon on their asses out of the blue, I still don't take any of it seriously.

They feel patronized as fuck when they go to say a prayer and notice you crossing your arms and saying Amen.

You can literally see the contempt in their eyes knowing that you don't give a fuck about any of their shit but you just play along with them.
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>>68673075
Very good, thank you for this.
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>>68663345
Honestly, watching your wife getting fucked by another man is a very good hard on.
It's unique.
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>>68676040
Du bist ein schwanzlutscher.
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>>68675783
People get nervous when they face manipulative wannabe psychopaths.
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>>68675896
this is an unpopular opinion for /pol/ but I don't support Eugenics one bit. I think modern racialism and eugenics is bullshit that started with Darwin and other masonic "Sciences." Eugenics on the white race would produce a tiny population of "enlightened" people who think they're Gods just because of genetics and forgot the value of hard work that only a large underclass of "inferior" whites can keep alive.

(however keeping countries with borders and homogenous populations is definitely a good thing)
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>>68676163
Swinger parties, i am talking about those.
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>>68676217
>manipulative
There's nothing manipulative about it though.
I'm trying to give them the "respect" they so adamantly demand instead of tipping my fedora at the dinner table.
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>>68676434
Does anyone really have like having their meal spoiled because I started giggling at them for unironically pretending that they need to make some ritualistic procedure to a being they literally believe can read their fucking mind?

No. You don't. Now shut up and enjoy your God-given meal.
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>>68672358
>>68673117
Exactly how is it cowardice, religitard?
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>>68663345

>2016

>still believing in 2000 year old desert wandering Semite tales

>believing in an invisible sky daddy
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>>68677502
He made anime real ausdrone
What is there more to believe in
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>>68676434
Now I can admit that it's probably a bit passive aggressive that I go through the motions too, but usually that's just so Aunt Kathy, whom I haven't seen in 5 years, doesn't confront me on why I didn't participate in the prayer and I end up starting a huge retard fight between all the various denominations present.

That has happened before and it's more irritating than listening to my own euphoria.
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>>68677051
There is no possible way that truth resides in the milde of two opposite propositions. Only people who have no passion for what is right and wrong fall for that kind of illusion. Most of the time, this is a product of cowardice, but it can also be a product of an inflated ego (just look how prudent & sober-minded I'm!).
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>>68665315
>
>Atheists saying religion is to be removed, while still celebrating a religious holiday, are retarded.

Christmas was another holiday stolen from the Pagans.

I found the retard.
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>>68625805
>tend
>tend
>tend
>why is natural selection on the side of.
Natural selection, so your an atheist?
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>>68678062
And you can't tell me that you wouldn't hide your power level if it turned out your sister brought her nigger fiancee to Thanksgiving, so fuck right off with this "if you don't genuinely believe in my imaginary friend and just go along with it so we don't have huge family conflicts over something I take VERY seriously, you're an inconsiderate asshole."
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>>68678105
We take your heretic stuff and make it GREAT. Just like Jesus did turning water into wine, curing the blind, and turning prostitutes into saints.

Get mad pagan shit.
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>>68678545
>tend
>tend
>tend

As you can see, I'm talking about a group of people. Not single individuals.

>Natural selection, so your an atheist?
I'm not an american protestant.
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>>68664303
>religion delays progress
How can you not love this fucking meme.
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>>68679221
>>68679221
>>68679221
Bacon was a demon worshipping mason revolutionary. Read his "New Atlantis" and imo copernicanism is false.

gotta be careful with the "church is pro science" stuff.
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>>68679516
The Holy Church had to mediate between progress and maintaining stable societies. Some scientific revolution would have been too revolutionary for society to cope with. Yeah, now we deal with a kind of amoral kind of moral relativistic society in western world that's on self destruction mode. Nice progress.
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Pagan religions, if local then even better, are the the way to go
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KISS FEET FAGGOT
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>>68680173
>this is the extent of kike shitposting
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>>68680021
no I agree, I think mass literacy was a mistake.

most of us would have been happier without even having to read. Not to mention electricity is the root of most modern degeneracy.
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ATHEISM IS A WASTE.
JUST A BIG FAT MISTAKE.
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>>68680478
>believes completely wacky shit
>disregards it
Christianity, everyone.
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Christians are literally the most cucked religion on earth, you can't really criticize anyone.

Go suck some muslim toes, you faggot.
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>>68680478
>mass literacy was a mistake
No the mistake is in having the bible being in more than one language.
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>>68680671
Most Christians wouldn't even believe some of the stuff I've come to realize is true.

You never really see them questioning the value of basic technologies like electricity, yet really the root of all this cultural destruction was technological.

could you even imagine how cultural marxism would have gotten this far if the TV was physically never invented?
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>>68680766
>atheist hue rape baby
>having a say
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>>68680783
Turns out nobody would give a crap about any of the wacky shit contained therein if they never did.
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>>68678845
Keep worshipping those idols. Skydaddy warned you against that.
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>>68680889
Actually, that was standard procedure during the middle ages.
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>>68680889
>Eh. I'm not learning Latin just so I can listen to this guy babble on about some shit they allegedly translated from Arabic.
>Take your Jewish goatherder penis mutilation cult shit back to the desert.
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>>68680902
>triggered
lol
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>>68680478
>I want to live in the year 1
Yeah fuck you and your reactionary horseshit. I believe in science, objective facts and the will to make use of them. If that makes me a fedora so be it.
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>>68681225
>>NASA
>>anything other than lies with occult themes hidden throughout, and a front for government black operations to take our tax money

enjoy worshipping a huge dick, that's what that thing is.
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>>68681208
You sure are easily triggered, but I can't say that I'm sorry.
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>>68681417
>not wanting to go to space
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btw, you're an atheist because you were brainwashed by sci-fi from a young age. and Sci-fi is just repackaged babylonian mystery religions
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>>68681570
>>Man has the right to steal his way into heaven himself

Space doesn't real like you think it does.
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We didn't evolve to divine the truth of our meaningless, we evolved to reproduce. Atheists are right, but they are broken.
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>>68680766
Fuck off monkey
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>>68681681
But heaven is above space and time you dolt.
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>>68680478
Human struggle can't be avoided, son.

>>68680783
Yeah, right. This would be like Judaism. Nobody even knows how to spell words in the most constitutional book of your religion. Bad idea that allows followers to make weirdest cults about pronunciation.
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>>68665917
You are me. Except I want max 2 Children
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>>68676040
Typical cucked German
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>>68663345
This is true.

The catholic in my country make 2 to 8 babies, when the atheist make 0 to 2, we will soon take over.
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>>68681901
It's called convenience. I would rather have the whole thing be in Latin, I mean you can't go wrong with Latin.
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>>68681931
Yeah let's continue the German tradition of standard growth
>>68682155
>pic related
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I'm an atheist ask me anything. Will entertain all trolls too.
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>>68681593
I'm an atheist because when I was 5 years old the notion that there was a magic ghost who was watching me take a shit in case I put my finger in my butt or something sounded patently absurd.

I think you'd have to have some kind of mental disorder for it not to.
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>>68682155

>The catholic in my country make 2 to 8 babies, when the atheist make 0 to 2, we will soon take over.

The catholics you speak about are 25 000 in France.

TOPKEK.
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>>68682401
Why is your waifu shit?
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>>68682437
What's really bizarre to me is that so many people use the privacy of sitting on the shitter as an opportunity to reflect on what their imaginary friend thinks of them.

Blows me away.
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>>68681417
>muh dikk
You're really not holding your side up you know.
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>>68682401
How to fuck hardcore christian girls as an atheist? A girl friend is sleeping over next week. Help
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>>68683226
You don't.
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>>68683367
Why not? I want some pussy
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>>68683226
I doubt it's going to happen like that.

You should probably just spend some time picking at each other's brains and showing her interesting things you have and like.

She's not really that interested in your fedora, and if she perceives you as good natured she'll most likely let it go. If not then you don't want her trying to pressure you into converting anyway because you'll just find yourself pretending acceptance.

Don't be like most people.
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>>68683665
No you don't.
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>>68663345
Except that's not natural selection at all, since nature is playing no part in it. It's more like sociocultural selection.
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>>68683046
Hmmm, I suppose I don't have one.

>>68683226
Don't bring up the fucking topic of religion. Get her tipsy, make sure you're the best looking man around, and every 15 minutes of preparation is worth an hour of effort. Clean up, smell good, Also, try to be just a touch obnoxious and dangerous without being annoying. Good luck and defile that little flower.
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>>68682748
25000 ?
Do you really live in France ?

The catholic practictioners are estimate to be 3,2 million and the catholic as a whole are 41,5 million.
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>>68681555
>no u
kek
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>>68683821
>he doesn't have a waifu
What a fag.
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>>68663345
K
I
S
S O L E S
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>>68663345
right-wing christian atheist here

i figure that god is either asleep, dead, or has simply abandoned us. i was raised as a christian, and while i have wholly christian morals, i'm not really a believer
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>>68663803
>Hi I'm a Christian. I believe in God.

>Why?

>I read a book
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>>68683679
What you'll find on /pol/ is that a lot of these people aren't genuine believers but they've gone and rationalized succumbing to peer pressure because they're severely intimidated by a feeling of "guilt by association" and they generally go along with it for the sense of community.

Nobody wants to explain to Grandpa that they've "officially come out of the closet as an atheist" because Grandpa will never take them seriously again.

Peer pressure is their most powerful weapon, and this is why they spam fedoras and use shame tactics instead of telling you what's so great about their cult.
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>>68683679
>>68683821
Thx for the tips guys. It's funny how she's hiding from her parents to sleepover at my place though. I thought that she wants the D
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>>68684163
I'm in it for the cute girls and the fact I can have a fall back for missionary work to be honest.
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>>68684163
Not only this, but who *doesn't* want to shout down from the pedestal of widely accepted moral supremacy?
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>>68684095
>right-wing christian atheist here

Take this fedora-tipping faggotry elsewhere. There is no such thing as a Christian Atheist.
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>>68684388
Not you?
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>>68683859

>The catholic practictioners are estimate to be 3,2 million and the catholic as a whole are 41,5 million.

The traditionalists are a minority in the pratictioners.

Cultural catholics>pratictioners catholics>Traditionalists catholics

The cultural ones are in some huge way cucked.
The pratictioners are even more cucked since they are following Vatican 2 bullshitness.
The traditionalists are not more than 25000.

There's no debate, sorry.
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>>68684894
>Christians cannot into the humility they speak so highly of.
I don't genuinely believe and there's not a chance it's going to happen until I get tossed in the eternal bonfire.

And I won't be sorry that I didn't believe. I'll be sorry that God has such high expectations of me.

Go figure.
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>>68682220
Bible wasn't written in Latin. Not even if you only consider New Testament only.
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>>68685443
Bible wasn't written in German either. Latin is the next step.
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>>68663345
I don't remember what an atheist publicly kissed muslim feet.
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>>68685665
No, they just let in Muslims and support rape.
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>>68685999
>liberal association strawman meme
Most atheists hate fucktarded religious people.
Why in the fuck would they ever invite Muslims into their secular countries if not to set them on attack mode against other religious retards for lulz?

Are you worried that they'll establish a theocracy or something?
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>>68686341
Oh... I get it.

You're worried that people will be exposed to the reality that other people have wacky religious shit they're trying to sell you too and it might make yours seem wacky too.
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>>68686341
>Most atheists hate fucktarded religious people.
So why is it that they seem so accepting of "refugees"
>Why in the fuck would they ever invite Muslims into their secular countries
Then why is it happening in Germany, and France, and half of fucking protestant Europe that goes full retard and then drops their faith with God for that tiny once of "fuck God" and all that.
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>>68685545
Weren't you bitching about it translated?
>fuck off
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>>68685072

You're true this isn't about opinion, this is only about facts, the facts are that the catholic do MORE CHILDREN than the atheist, with our natility we will take over.

Regular practicioners : 3.2 million
Occasional practitioners : 10 milion
Non practioners : 27 milion
http://www.atlantico.fr/decryptage/france-catholique-aujourd-hui-pratiquants-plus-citadins-qu-autrefois-jean-sevillia-2424302.html

The regular (and perhaps the occasional) practioners do a lot more of babies than the atheist, this a fact.
http://ripostelaique.com/L-integrisme-catholique-ou-la-de.html
http://www.la-croix.com/Actualite/France/Pourquoi-en-France-la-natalite-resiste-a-la-crise-2015-03-06-1288316
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>>68686663
because they know that your children are more likely to ignore religious retardation if they're exposed to all different kinds of it.
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> atheist
> vote left
> feminists
> cucks
> ever dominated by islam

You are literally shitposting.

Posting this from one of the most religion-free countries in the world, where majority are redpilled as fuck, feminists are a laughing stock and Islam is treated like AIDS.
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>>68663803
You re thinking of "militant" atheists and theists.

I am an atheist, and my best friend is a christian. Not by birth. He goes to church, tries to practice what Jesus preached (because no one is perfect). He never tried to "convert" me, nor I him.
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>>68686688
No one reads Aramaic, and Latin is the Lingua Franca for scholars.
>>68686872
So it's okay for Islam to be evil you faggot?
>>68686968
>no brushing
You're slipping.
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>>68687114
>So it's okay for Islam to be evil you faggot?
These kind of militant libtarded atheists think anything which threatens your pitiful worldview and self-proclamations of moral supremacy sound much better when you have to shout over everyone else's
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>>68686797

>atlantico
>ripostelaique
>la croix

lol
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>>68687293
So you support the militant liberal atheists?
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>>68665067

> I am a good person because the mean skydady will reward me, or throw me in a etarnal lake of fire if i dont behave.

there is something inherently selfish about this line of reasoning.
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atheists usally either cuckolds or neckberds but there is that 1 based percentage that's lit
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>>68687518
No. I was explaining their position.
You might be doing this intentionally, but this association rhetoric is quite the same as if an atheist characterizes all of you as YoungEarthers.

I'm not so desperate to convince others not to take you seriously that I want to be surrounded by a bunch of dindus, but on the bright side it's funny watching you guys fight over what your imaginary friends think of each other.
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>>68688027
But you still support them because you're an atheist.
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>>68663345
>MUH birth rates
Insignificant, really really downplays the amount of atheists vs religious people, birth rates are dropping across the board anyway
>muh cuckery
Not particularly, no. Confirmation bias maybe? Can you show me some form of consensus?
>muh atheists are feminists
No, feminists are atheists. Not the same thing. Unfortunately we don't get to hide behind the no true Scotsman fallacy because anyone who rejects theism is atheist. If you want feminist atheists, check atheism+. Otherwise not really.
>tend to vote left
........ Okay?
>muh migrant crisis
Several different factors go into this, which have more to do with feminism than atheism.
3/10 jolly bad show at least you tried
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>>68687602

Spoken like a true autist. Let me guess, your only contact with people claiming they're atheists are on 4chan, right?
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>>68688213
No.
I clarified my position pretty thoroughly.
>Having all these Muslims over here really sucks, but at least my children will get a chance to see the full effect of the plague upon civilization known as the Judaism family for themselves, and will be less likely to get sucked into their 3-way hate orgy.
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>>68688594
So again, you support them because your children can be brainwashed into this liberal mindset.
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>>68663406
le dubs
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>>68688706
No. I don't support them.
Fuck Muslims.
I'd much rather tolerate Christians than both of you, but if I have to anyway then kek.
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>>68684104
Reading books is how you get knowledge, duh
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>>68688856
But you sit here and support the people who want to bring them in because their mindset is with yours.
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>>68689166
>But you sit here and support the people who want to bring them in
Have you ever watched two nigger women fight?
Just because they happen to do it as you're walking by and you think it's a hilariously pitiful display doesn't mean you love having niggers around.

How many times are you going to strawman me before I tell you to fuck off, or were you trying to get me to apologize to your penis mutilation cult for not giving a fuck about the future of it?
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I am all for installing a stricter moral system and all, but do we really have to do it via a fairytale and lots of ridiculous rites?
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>>68689608
Who's going to take le benevolent government man seriously unless he claims to be backed by a magic ethereal being who can rip apart the sky and kill everyone if they don't get their shit together?
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>>68663345
I'm an Athiest and I make the John Birch Society look like Femen.
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>>68689559
I haven't, because I don't drag myself into those predicaments you dumbass. Why would you support people that say we need people that aren't my culture into land that isn't there. Atheism is a cult, a cult that has no head, and with it, a cult that has many people that scream 100s of different things and can't do anything productive.
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>>68690015
>Why would you support people
Again... I don't.
I want Muslims fucking gone.
Do you always resort to knocking over strawmen of your opponents in every single argument you ever get into or are you just not aware that you're doing it?
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>>68690015
>I don't drag myself into those predicament
How do you avoid walking down the street?
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>>68682401
Do you poo in the loo?
Who are you voting for? Everyone seems to have lost their freaking mind.
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>>68690359
Then why do you actively kick yourself and go on to proclaim that you're an Atheist? Why can't you be quiet on that one portion and say that you want Muslims to be gone, no inclusion on the "oh and I'm an Atheists too"
>>68690533
I don't live in shitholes anon.
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>>68682401
Nice chart, I am stealing it and re-posting it on Facebook. __________
God is not real and actual perfection as perceived in the mind can never exist in this reality.

Everything we admire in this reality are only a fraction of what our mind has polished into
unobtainable supreme beauty.

Every time you say "Only human" or "Life is not fair", you only emphasize how much your Gods do not exist. Science hates Atheists more than atheists hate those with faith in the unbelievable . Ironically enough, Atheists still lovingly embrace those who are incapable of expressing love.
_________________________

Zombie-Tag version of Hide-and-seek
is better than hide-and-seek freeze-tag.
Also,
it kept stupid kids from sitting in the middle of the street.
Then again, we had to set ground rules so that terrorists would not be using larger water guns filled with boiling piss. After hours of debate, a black kid would show up and disarm everyone before the game starts and agree to referee so that no one is ever armed.
As a result, the game would always end with everyone becoming brain-dead zombies before sun-down.
Thanks Obama, you infected us all.
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>>68690796
>I don't live in shitholes
>I can't into analogies

>no inclusion to the atheist part
The only difference here is that he's being attacked for being an atheist who, in your opinion, like Muslims. Are you trying to be retarded?
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>>68666050

>muh hyperrationalism

whats so hyper about it? no reason to believe it, so you dont believe it

>ban all dreams and fantasy

who ever said that?

>there is no afterlife, s-stop believing in that

no reason to believe it, so you dont believe it

>what do you mean you're on the verge of existential crisis because you can't stomach death? you should be totally okay with only 80-somewhat pathetic years on earth.

projectind sure is fun isnt it. life isnt fair i guees youll find that out when you become an adult

>first there was nothing and from that everything came to be lol

if you can say that then everyone can say magic wizard in the sky, you cant demand nuance on one side only

>I can't grasp the concept of metaphysics but I'm not mentall ill or autistic, I swear!

its a branch of philosophy. so what?

>what do you mean more atheists are usually more likely to be autists than normal people?

autists usualy are atheists, not the other way around. fun fact, retards usually arent pilots, i guess youre retarded if youre not a pilot then right? is that how this works?

>boy, I sure enjoy the gifts atheism bears, like...uh..uh...uhmm....

im sorry i inuslted your placebo

>who needs spiritual guidance in life anyways

oh please expand on that, what spiritual guidance have you recieved, and from who?

>there is only the materialist plane and nothing more!

no reason to believe it, so you dont believe it

>*tips fedora*

*prays to a kike on a stick*
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>>68690796
>Then why do you actively kick yourself and go on to proclaim that you're an Atheist? Why can't you be quiet on that one portion and say that you want Muslims to be gone, no inclusion on the "oh and I'm an Atheists too"
Why in the hell should I? So your world of 5 or 6 different stereotypical categories of people remains simple enough for your pitiful Jeebus-worshiping brain process?
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>>68691052
Because he threw the first punch, and that others in his cult support the bringing of people who aren't from Europe into Europe
>>68691340
Because you're no better than the liberal scum fuck that claims that letting migrants do horrible things to there children is a good thing.
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>>68691694
>Because you're no better than the liberal scum fuck that claims that letting migrants do horrible things to there children is a good thing.
Christianity is hardly a step above Islam and I still have to tolerate your stupid asses here. It's your problem that you worship a Jew and still can't seem to dissociate race from religion.
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>>68679221
To be fair, the church shit on Galileo a bunch.
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>>68691694
>letting migrants do horrible things to there children is a good thing.

why did this meme in particular caught on? are you saying that every migrant is a pedophile?
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>>68692055
It's a stupid meme image anyway.

The church supports only those scientific pursuits which might possibly be interpreted in some way to affirm their teachings, and shits on everything else.
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>>68692004
>I still have to tolerate your stupid asses here.
On /pol/? Or in the west? Because in the west, this has been a Christian nation.
>>68692118
If the migrants don't do anything about it, they're no better than the rapist.
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>>68692259
>Christian nation
I got a better one. Jesus was black.
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>>68692416
>we wuz kangs
Are you a nigger too?
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>>68691694
>Because he threw the first punch. That's a load of shit and is completely irrelevant to the point you're failing to make.
>And others in his cult
For the last fucking time, get over yourself. All you have to do to be an atheist is not believe in a God or gods. That's it. That's all. Do you understand what this means? Chad thundercock could be an atheist. Flat earthers could be atheist. Stormfags could be atheist. Anyone, any group, any thing you like or hate could be fucking atheist by simply not believing in a God or gods. I don't have to agree with anything any other fucking atheist says just because I'm atheist.
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>>68692674
>we wuz freedom
Christianity hates secular values.
America was founded on them.
Any narrative that runs contradictory to this easily verifiable information is fraudulent.
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>>68692259
>If the migrants don't do anything about it, they're no better than the rapist.

what have you done about priest pedophiles?
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>>68692706
> I don't have to agree with anything any other fucking atheist says just because I'm atheist.
You don't, but I see you supporting them, because of the shit I see. The vocal minority is screaming we need horrible people into Europe.
>>68692858
>America was founded on them.
You mean christian ideals that were secularize.
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>>68693222
Have them removed and thrown in jail?
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>>68693248
>But I see you supporting them
By being atheist? Pull your head out of your ass. Can't you fucking read? I don't have to agree with someone on anything just because they're atheist.
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>>68693485
>By being atheist?
Yeah, pretty much.
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>>68693248
>"I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."
Benjamin Franklin sought the recognition of a purely American religion vaguely reminiscient of Christianity that would have been grossly heretical.

While there were many Christians present at the time, there were also many non-Christians and the need for a secular government which recognizes no particular religious establishment over another was made quite explicit, right along with the one about guns.

Get it together man.
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>>68693721
>All squares are rectangles
>Therefore all rectangles are squares
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>>68694371
If he didn't have everyone claiming to be atheist in a single file labeled "liberal shit" in his brain he wouldn't be able to keep up with the complexity of reality.

Give him a break. It's not his fault he has a developmental disorder.
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>>68693397
yeah and that doesnt happen very often, and im allso pretty sure you havent done shit personally even if you condem it. stop expecting more from others than you do yourself dipshit
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When the alternative is shitty Arab religions, thinking god doesn't exist is not so far fetched.

People who need religion to make sure they dont become degenerate are the sadest people alive.
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>>68694706
Me and God have an understanding.

The kind of people who find themselves existentially threatened by an ethereal superbeing of astronomical heft and unlimited power have been caught in a psychological trap set up by the wisest of the ancients because they are often the kind of people who should.

Have you ever had them ask you, "well if God doesn't exist then why shouldn't everyone just rape, murder, and steal because there are no consequences?"

Don't pull them out of that hole. They're down there for a reason.
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>>68664565
This. Just do what ever the fuck as long as it doesn't hurt me or others.
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>>68663345
Remember lads, Heaven is a hierarchy, not a democracy. There is no myth of equality in heaven. God at the top, and the lines of angels descend to the bottom. God is the benevolent dictator, willing to remove the filth from the world. Even in a great flooding of the entire earth. He will do it again when he separates the chaff from the wheat. What every /pol/ack wants will be achieved by god. To have the righteous, good and courageous for the lord set aside. To have a kingdom of heaven free from the degenerates and scum of the earth. His power will spurn you through these trying times ahead. He will renew your spirit and fortify your resilience. We have terrible things ahead of us, but through god we overcome. God bless.
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>>68667886
>this "culture" you will be teaching is sandy and merely based on social conveniences
But there are a bunch of values in the bible that have been last due to social convenience. Take slavery as a prime example. Does that make your biblical values also sandy because you lost them to social pressure?
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>>68687552
>>68688113

Consider the claim moral realists are making. They generally claim there are invisible properties in the world not detectable by our usual tools of science, properties of an entirely different sort than the usual “is” facts of science.
These are mysterious “ought” facts, and there is great disagreement about what they are or how we know them.
Now that is a strong claim.
An extraordinary claim, we might say. And extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, right?

So what is the atheist’s extraordinary evidence for this claim? Usually, it’s something like this:
“I experience a world of moral facts. I feel very strongly that rape is objectively wrong, and charity is objectively right.”
“Almost everybody believes in moral facts. It’s just obvious. Until you can prove there aren’t any, I’m justified in believing what people have always believed: that some things are really right or wrong.”

Do those arguments look familiar? They should.

Atheists are skeptical of these arguments when given for the existence of God, but they are credulous and gullible toward these arguments when you replace the word ‘God’ with another mysterious thing called ‘moral facts.’
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>>68695920
Moral realists
You mean relativists?
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>>68695920
Joke's on you.

Morality, like everything about your interpretation of everything else in the universe, is entirely dependent upon a frame of reference. Situations appear different when you see them from a different perspective.

This is entirely consistent with physical reality, but it's often rejected because of the questions it raises about the notion of morality itself.

If there is any such thing as absolute morality, it escapes our perception just as equally as which direction is absolutely "up" in the universe.

Calling it "Jewish Marxist Bullshit" isn't going to make it any different.
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>>68696362
Just saying what an Max Stirner Said
He was a atheist but he pissed off other atheist by questioning them

Max Stirner was an anarchist egoist believing that following certain perceived virtues was only "spooks" and we ought to do them ultimately to serve ourselves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egotism
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>>68696859
The correct answer to the question was "no". Once again, not all atheists are moral realists. In fact, I didn't know what the hell it was till you said it. Isn't atheism diverse?
Stop this meme.
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>>68696607
To drop the name of Karl Popper or (more fashionably) Thomas Kuhn:
There is no absolute truth. Your scientific truths are merely hypotheses that
have so far failed to be falsified, destined to be superseded. At worst, after the
next scientific revolution, today's 'truths' will seem quaint and absurd, if not
actually false. The best you scientists can hope for is a series of
approximations which progressively reduce errors but never eliminate them.
The Popperian heckle partly stems from the accidental fact that
philosophers of science are traditionally obsessed with one piece of
scientific history: the comparison between Newton's and Einstein's
theories of gravitation. It is true that Newton's inverse square law has
turned out to be an approximation, a special case of Einstein's more
general formula. If this is the only piece of scientific history you know,
you might indeed conclude that all apparent truths are mere approximations,
fated to be superseded. There is even a quite interesting sense
in which all our sensory perceptions - the 'real' things that we 'see with
our own eyes' - may be regarded as unfalsified 'hypotheses' about the
world, vulnerable to change. This provides a good way to think about
illusions such as the Necker Cube. The flat pattern of ink on paper is compatible with two alternative
'hypotheses' of solidity. So we see a solid cube which, after a few seconds,
'flips' to a different cube, then flips back to the first cube, and so on.
Perhaps sense data only ever confirm or reject mental 'hypotheses'
about what is out there.
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>>68697310
Elaborate
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