Say No to EU Tour - Peterborough
> Nigel Farage speaking at 7.50pm GMT
Let's get the hell out of this union of cucks.
> !!!!! WATCH THE LIVE STREAM HERE !!!!!
http://livestream.com/believeinbritain/events/5002714
> Let's make June 23rd United Kingdom's Independence Day.
>>67678525
>DEBATE
Dude, GTFO. They just said it is not a debate, it is just an "OUT" shill speak clusterfuck. No debate whatsoever.
>>67678627
suck my phallic gercuck.
We are leaving your shitty cabal of muslim worshippers.
Brit/pol/ come and get cosy
bump for Britain
>>67678809
>We are leaving your shitty cabal of muslim worshippers.
I so hope you do. We don't want you, we fucking hope you leave and when you are out we can finally create our own EU and rape you repeatedly.
> Farage on in 2 mins!
2 mins
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>>67679412
Looks like we're going to have to bomb Germany again...
>that music.
HYPE
Y
P
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>>67679888
took the words out of my mouth
FARAGE ENTERS THE BUILDING
>FINAL COUNTDOWN
> farage on now
Convince me to vote No.
My job would be alot easier if we remained
so what does the vote that's going on actually mean?
>>67680343
>money is worth more than your freedom
Evola's Third Age
>>67680343
>As long as I'm alright, fuck everyone else.
This is why this country is great no more. Cucks like you.
>>67680343
You'll be lucky to have a job in a few years if we remain.
Why is reddit here anyway? This is /pl we don't like unions of cuckolded muslim worshipping mass immigration loving, culture destroying cabals here...
>>67678525
Damn, Nigel's a pretty damn good speaker
I notice he's playing off the audience. And talking about trade deals
Is he borrowing Trump tactics?
>>67679412
>Create our own EU
Headed by your arab rape masters?
Good luck krautscum.
>>67680463
Whether Britain remains part of the European Union and so whether Britain continues to exist.
>>67680343
also i am an importer/exporter.
I have to do less paperwork to send a container to Mexico than I do to Spain.
>It isn't governments who create business
>It isn't trade deals who create business
>It's business.
>>67680679
Nige has been based for years, it's only now that the tide is shifting and people are paying attention to what he has to say
>>67680610
>>67680654
thanks for convincing me. Christ I ask a genuine question and get meme replies
>>67680679
Oh please, Nigel has been speaking like this way before Trump was speaking to the public. Farage has been doing this since 1999
>>67680822
meme replies? So you are trying to say that the entire leadership council of the EU is not trying to import as many f these "refugees" as possible?
Also, staying in the union means we are liable for others fuckups. Spain is on the way down, we are not staying on a sinking ship.
>>67679412
OY VEY THEY CANT LEAVE THINK OF THE SHEKELS
>>67680822
It's a serious answer.
It depends on whether or not you care about your political representation, the sovereignty of the country, the performance of other economic sectors and the continued existence of the UK.
The fact is that it will not be any worse for you if we left the EU and it could potentially be slightly better, slightly less for the average person. Depending on your sector, it might improve things more than that. We need to know where you work and how you work.
However it's not just about whether you're better off or not. It's about what political system you want to live in, about who you want to govern you, about whether you care about being represented democratically, about whether you can remove those above you democratically and about who you think you are and what society you live in.
>>67680343
if you don't vote "no" i'm going to personally come there and fucking shit on your bed, you fucking piece of shit, fagot.
>>67679412
>rape you repeatedly.
Haven't you tried that for millenia?
Haven't succeeded so far
> COMMONWEALTH LIKES US
MY SIDES
CAN'T BARRAGE THE FARAGE!
HERE WE GO: IT'S FLAG TIME!
Britain is not leaving deal with it
>>67681158
maybe he was just referring to Anglo Commonwealths.
>>67681466
maybe he's just delusional, listen to the guy
>>67680343
what are you, an MEP?
>>67681466
Is the average Indian even aware they are in the commonwealth? What are their feelings towards the matter?
Corbyn BTFO
>>67681404
>>67681466
Commonwealth Realms most likely.
India certainly doesn't like us.
>>67680343
independence and the principle of making our own laws and not what some dickheads in brussels say that arent even from here.
control of borders being a large reason.
whats your job ?
>>67681686
Corbyn's a closet Brexit backer actually like Tony Benn. There's a reason he's been so damn quiet during this debate.
How can one Brit be so based?
>>67681089
>>67680968
Maybe Im just being a lazy twat refusing to be bothered to adapt.
Why does Boris keep fucking up with shit like saying we should be like Canada? Is he a plant?
Look at all those old white people who can vote, disgusting.
We need to let 16+ vote and stop anyone over 45 should be denied the right to vote.
>>67681849
>Apathy
You deserve nothing
PETERBOROUGH BTFO
2.3 million come in
1 million from the EU
1.3 million from outside the EU
Not sure what he means?
>>67681849
Which sector do you work in?
post a youtube stream or gtfo
Can you spot somebody under 65?
>>67682090
I know they aren't big on education over there Mehmet, but in the civilised world 1.3 is less than 2.3
>>67679412
Calm down mohamad.
>>67682272
keking at the guy bringing his date along.
>>67681971
probably
>>67681747
>>67682101
company in construction. Theres just quite a few headaches that Id need to get round. We buy alot of materials from a company with a head office in belgium, would they just move their head office to the UK? We would have zero input on BS EN regs (I know we have little input as it is). Would we just develop our own regs seperate from Europe?
I agree that we should leave to dictate our own tax, our company will be forced to tax 20% on renewable technology rather than 5% because europe think its unfair. Kind of lose business to some people that way
>>67681706
put your money on it
3 to 1 on Betfair
no one in this thread has the guts
I'm betting on Britain to stay
£1,000 wins me £400
Free money
No way Britain is leaving.
Hahah enjoy your seditious and violent pakis hiding under the cloak of European "human" rights
>>67681677
>Is the average Indian even aware they are in the commonwealth?
Yup. We don't care. Queen doesn't rule us, nor she is our monarch like she is for canada or Aus.
>>67681636
So you're voting to stay?
>>67681738
We don't hate UK, we're really indifferent. It's the cucks who live there who hate UK. Like Indians, pakis, etc who have immigrated to UK.
And I hate those fucking cunts equally.
>guy - hurr durr UK is so bad, people are racist, India best :DDDDD
> me - so why don't you leave the country and come back?
>guy - uh... hehe. oh hey look it's UK vs India cricket match "yay India"
Fucking backstabbing faggots, if you're a citizen of a country then don't fucking talk down about it to someone else.
>>67682090
2 points, it's easier for EU people to come in compared to others, i'd rather a highly qualified aussie come in, rather that than choosing some crappy french doctor that is only chosen due to the easier route available...
Secondly our 'official' numbers that are said to come in as a net increase are about 1 million, however our national insurance numbers (issued at birth, allow you to work etc) had almost an 1.8 million increase instead (clearly there are unknown's in the country not reported, not counting ones not on the system, germany alone should understand this point...
>>67682637
based loo
>>67682564
We would most likely have our own regulations and chances are it would actually be easier to import goods in as it actually requires more paperwork to shift materials around the EU then it is to export them outside the EU.
>>67682629
t. Mahmoud Murphy
SHIT
HES BRINGING IT
COLOGNE & PARIS BLAMED ON REFUGEES
NIGE DROPPING THE REDPILLS
>>67682637
Very true. The whole American idea of Ethnic-Nationality identity has been horrific.
so what are the odds that there will actually be a Brexit?
>>67683112
Current poll is OUT
Telegraph reported that OUT is HIGH ENERGY compared to low test IN
Utterly depends on what happens in the next 99 days, If Turkey gets to join the EU we're gone
>>67683112
It will be close to call. Right now I think it's about 50-50. Remember that the campaigns haven't officially started yet.
We're leaving mate. Meaning no more of you pikey drunk filth are coming over. Enjoy St Paddy's day ya smelly bastard.
DO YOU BELIEVE IN BRITAIN?!
What is the "IN" campaign doing? I want to watch their events and laugh at them. FFS will /britpol/ link me to it? We should discuss them too.
>>67683311
I COULDN'T HEAR YOU
>>67683311
>http://livestream.com/believeinbritain/events/5002714
y...y..yes
>>67683369
They're inviting Obama over to tell us to stay in.
>>67683311
Yes.
>>67683311
WELL BE GREAT AGAIN
>>67683112
3 to 1
Not happening
Most voters are female and leaving the EU = perception of risk
>>67680679
>Is he borrowing Trump tactics?
Fucking retard.
>>67683412
Well, that's it. That's the end of the No campaign. UKIP on suicide watch. Pack your bags lads, it's time go back to building the European Caliphate
>>67683665
>Muh 4chan psychology degree means I can make sweeping statements about how women will vote
>>67683412
>They're inviting Obama over to tell us to stay in.
hahaha haha
The same guy who returned the bust of Churchill back?
Or the same guy who said "UK is free rider, and should pay up.
the same guy who said UK fucked up Libya?
O god, this is going to be great. Please spread the awareness everywhere about what he thinks about UK.
http://www.businessinsider.in/Barack-Obama-says-Britain-is-a-free-rider-and-blames-David-Cameron-for-screwing-up-Libya/articleshow/51358590.cms
>>67683369
That's just it mate, there isn't really a big "in" campaign at the moment as far as I know. As this guy >>67683412 mentioned they keep bringing up that Obama wants us in, but nobody gives a toss about what that coon has to say. Hell, i don't even think the yanks give a shit about him.
>>67683782
Fuck off to kitchen.
>>67683311
I hope you Make Britan Great Again.
>Danish maastricht treaty
Please Nigel, don't remind me.
>>67683679
Surely this will push people on the edge over. I don't need fucking Obama telling me how I should vote, it would piss me the fuck off. Smug little nigger telling me what to do. Fuck off.
>>67683966
Britain*
I've heard his points 100 times but i can still listen
>>67683412
Do Brits care about Obama? If the IN campaign can get young liberals to go out and vote, OUT will lose without a doubt. And young liberals worship Obama because he's black.
>>67684039
Obama is our master. We are just the naughty free-rider who fucked up Libya.
>>67684179
By and large, no. The left loves and hates him for being black (yay) but being American (boo).
>>67684179
Liberal Brits all shill for Obama and Hillary because they don't really care about US politics and like the idea of a black or woman president
>>67684252
Funnily enough I bet people believe him.
>>67683840
The same guy that called the Falklands the 'Maldives'
>>67684383
>The same guy that called the Falklands the 'Maldives'
American education at it's best.
>>67684383
hahaha seriously? He really does fucking hate us.
>>67684522
His father was part of the Mau-Mau revolt so he's got a bee in his bonnet about Britain.
>>67684522
When Farage called him one of the most anti-British Presidents in history did you really think he was memeing?
>>67684383
He gave Gordon Brown a box of DVDs that don't even work on British DVD players because they were PAL format.
And he gave the Queen an Ipod loaded with American Music, even though she had an Ipod already
>>67684682
No I didn't, but I didn't think he was such a little bitch.
>>67684383
>>67683840
He's trying to heal US-UK "friendship".
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/03/14/its-your-money-state-dept-spending-90000-to-promote-understanding-with-britain.html
Britain is one of the largest economies in the EU
If you guys leave, won't that mean the total destruction of the EU? All that will be left is Germany, who's currently using all their money to pay for Achmed.
Do you really think they're just gonna let you leave so easily?
>>67684720
Just to put this into context, Obama was given a fountain pen decorated with wood from the Chesapeake in the same exchange.
>>67684720
He stood Brown up a few times during his visits. Papers had bags of laughs mocking him for it.
I just fucking wish Trump had the brains to win democratic voters but he doesn't and Hillary another 'Malvinas' user is gonna win.
>>67684795
>$90,000 dollars.
Wew lad, put down the wallet. You don't want to get too crazy there.
>>67683665
Pretty much all the latest polls are against you, the leave camp is starting to pull ahead.
A couple of months ago, I would've believed you, but we're just two months away and the polls are shifting in favour of brexit. I don't doubt that it's going to be close, but a remain lead at this point in the game is pretty important. This is without even mentioning turnout, which will also work in favour of brexit.
The remain campaign looks tired and uninspiring right now, and I don't see them gaining any traction over the next two months, but we'll see. Overall I'm pretty convinced of a leave vote right now, despite being skeptical until recently.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12193963/EU-referendum-Exclusive-Telegraph-poll-says-Leave-campaign-most-likely-to-win-in-June.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-brexit-supporters-more-likely-to-vote-poll-finds-a6931766.html
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-poll-idUKKCN0WH0VV
http://uk.businessinsider.com/poll-brexit-takes-seven-point-lead-2016-3
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-brexit-campaign-takes-nine-point-lead-just-months-from-expected-poll-a6854751.html
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/652733/EU-referendum-New-poll-UK-Brexit-100-days-to-go-David-Cameron-Project-Fear
http://www.icmunlimited.com/media-centre/polls
http://www.cityam.com/236769/eu-referendum-new-poll-shows-more-people-likely-to-vote-leave-as-andy-burnham-says-he-would-bet-on-brexit
>>67684804
The EU is dying, Brexit will be like pulling the plug on the life support
>>67679412
been there done that
Lets be real here. Britain is going to sign up to TTIP in or out. Our government has been pushing for it MORE than most EU countries.
>>67685154
>Pro EU Cameron who wants Turkey to join the EU is pushing for TTIP.
What a shock.
QUITE RIGHT
QUITE RIGHT
>>67685154
And tweed chap just blew you out there, old boy.
>Wedding Invitation
Wedding Invitation
>Wedding Invitation
Wedding Invitation
>>67684804
exactly we get abused and we can't go round europe claiming dole they can here
>>67685222
Porky is such a cuck.
Let's elect Corbyn, at least he knows he's a cuck
>>67685154
better vote for Corbyn then!
>farage gets a wedding invitation
Based desu
>>67684957
Ok, so Britain just left the EU....now what?
Are you going to start deporting migrants or something? What does an independent Britain look like?
>>67685381
Nigel's going to a wedding. How lovely.
farage was sold on 'free bar'
>>67685505
This.
>>67684795
It's probably 90,000 because that's all the department could scrape together in a desperate bid to heal a rift caused by Obama, one that could be fixed for free by him brushing that chip off his shoulder.
>>67685505
More money to spend on shit
Less retarded regulations
More autonomy
No migrant quotas
>>67685505
means less migrants. why would you want to remain knowing that?
>>67685505
http://www.eureferendum.com/documents/flexcit.pdf
Chances are a good chunk of our immigrant population would leave, especially if we get a centre-right party in that would properly crack down on benefits and illegal immigration as they move to where they can get the best deal.
>>67685505
we can control our borders again and make our own rules. were not going to be deporting people that came here legally. but we will be able to shut the door to anyone we like, and choose who we want to come in, as well as deporting terrorists and illegals which we cant currently do in the EU
>>67685558
Wouldn't you be?
>>67685712
>They will move to where they get the best deal
So basically, Germany gets shit on some more
ETERNAL ANGLO
>>67685505
We're going to Make Britain Great Again.
Starting with retaking our colonies.
>>67684720
how dumb can a president be?
If we left the EU, who is gonna clean my car for a fiver now the polish have been kicked out?
>>67685825
Not our fault they tried to go Reich Time again.
>>67685361
Unfortunately he does not represent the overwhelmingly pro-TTIP tories.
>>67685475
God no. In any case, my hope is that Corbyn stops being useless and kicks up a storm over TTIP to make people aware of it and upon doing so make it crash and burn.
I won't hold my breath though.
>>67685910
You'll have to clean it yourself or pay someone a little more to get it clean.
It builds character, so chop chop.
>>67685910
This guy
>>67685505
It really depends on the government, I have absolute faith that the conservatives will try to keep freedom of movement, and end up paying for the privilege too. I'm not sure but I think in the time frame before exit we have another general election but the main body of the agreements will be made by this government, and it will suck. But pic related.
>>67685930
This is another side effect of Brexit that I am looking forward to; there will be a Tory civil war following Brexit where we will see the party split into Social Democratic centrists/centre-leftisits and more patriotic centrist-rightists.
HE NAMED THE ARYAN
>Do you want to Britain to leave the EU?
-Yes
-No
>Do you believe European immigration from Poland, Romania and Bulgaria is a detriment to our economy?
-Yes
-No
>Do you believe European immigration from Poland, Romania and Bulgaria is the reason for relatively high unemployment?
-Yes
-No
>Do you believe European immigrants from Poland, Romania and Bulgaria are of lower quality than native English workers without jobs?
-Yes
-No
>Do you believe European immigration from Poland, Romania and Bulgaria is one of the most important reasons for the 'NHS crisis'?
-Yes
-No
Is it wise for Nigel to imply that Welshmen fuck sheep? Sounds like a good way to get them to vote to stay?
Or is that just expected banter in Britain? If a US politician implied that southerners all fuck their family members it wouldn't be good for their argument.
>>67686055
>Conservacucks
>Sticking to their promises
>>67686008
Christ, is that real? Does that not strike you as cruel and unusual?
>Do you want to Britain to leave the EU?
-Yes
>Do you believe European immigration from Poland, Romania and Bulgaria is a detriment to our economy?
No
>Do you believe European immigration from Poland, Romania and Bulgaria is the reason for relatively high unemployment?
No
>Do you believe European immigrants from Poland, Romania and Bulgaria are of lower quality than native English workers without jobs?
-No
>Do you believe European immigration from Poland, Romania and Bulgaria is one of the most important reasons for the 'NHS crisis'?
-No
>>67680343
Ever heard of a collapsing Ponzi scheme?
>>67686250
The Welsh can handle a decent amount of banter
Just look at them
>>67686134
Yes.
Yes, in the context that while they produce a small boost, they deflate wages and increase demand on welfare, govt expenditure for indigenous people put on the dole.
Partially
Depends on the sector. By and large, yes.
It's a serious contribution, but is on a similar level to non-EU immigration.
>>67686134
>Do you want to Britain to leave the EU?
Yes
>Do you believe European immigration from Poland, Romania and Bulgaria is a detriment to our economy?
No
>Do you believe European immigration from Poland, Romania and Bulgaria is the reason for relatively high unemployment?
Maybe
>Do you believe European immigrants from Poland, Romania and Bulgaria are of lower quality than native English workers without jobs?
I'm not sure
>Do you believe European immigration from Poland, Romania and Bulgaria is one of the most important reasons for the 'NHS crisis'?
Can you repeat the question
>>67686291
i dunno, he probably got a shit load of fuckpig chavette pussy for it.
>>67686250
I'm a Welshman. It's joking banter. Anyway, we're the most anti-EU part of the UK.
>>67686250
Just banter
The Welsh are the most Eurosceptic country in the Kingdom, based as fuck
>>67686291
Yes. Why is the taxpayer/ratepayer being charged to give this mug publicity?
>>67686339
They're all rather.....chubby aren't they?
>>67684795
>$9000
lel.
is he trying to fix the relationship or insult britain and ruin it more.
Guys!! I'm talking to americans, they're the most vocal group of people opposing the Brexit. Like WTF!!
I know everyone should have an opinion, but i talked to an american, and they were like " British people want to be on welfare, and migrants are actually helping the economy."
>don't talk about britain as if you know them, I lived there, I'm married to a brit.
I pretty much rekt them, but now all i get is "see GDP data hurr durr."
Guys give me some good sources and links for leaving EU.
SAY NO TO THE EU ARMY.
I WILL NOT DIE FOR THE GOLDEN SPHINCTER.
>>67686537
What about that beanpole in the centre?
FARAGE IS BRINGING THE HEAT TO NICK "LIAR" CLEGG.
>>67686134
>>Do you want to Britain to leave the EU?
-Yes
>>Do you believe European immigration from Poland, Romania and Bulgaria is a detriment to our economy?
-Not in small numbers, skilled migrants are fine
>>Do you believe European immigration from Poland, Romania and Bulgaria is the reason for relatively high unemployment?
-Yes, but not exclusively
>>Do you believe European immigrants from Poland, Romania and Bulgaria are of lower quality than native English workers without jobs?
-Yes, but not entirely. Remember, these migrants were often unemployed in their own countries, this means they are typically less skilled than most people in their native countries.
>>Do you believe European immigration from Poland, Romania and Bulgaria is one of the most important reasons for the 'NHS crisis'?
-It's a key reason, but again, its not the only problem.
>>67686291
I live in Middlesbrough (moved here for uni.)
No it's not cruel, if you met any of the locals here you'd know.
Who is this guy on the right, he's quite erudite
>>67686588
Just mirror it as Britain gaining Independence.
>>67686588
http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/02/america-would-never-join-anything-like-the-eu-yet-they-urge-us-to-stay/
http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/03/obamas-wrong-americans-should-back-brexit-and-so-should-you/
>>67686322
Why did you even bother replying?
How does your post facilitate discourse.
Fucking autistic.
Voting no, in proxy through a friend who normally doesn't vote on anything.
Make my fatherland great again!
>>67686738
And America would never, ever ever sign up for a NAFTA Mexico-USA-Canada federation.
>>67686291
of course it is, most probably terrorized his local community though
God fucking dammit, I love Brits.
I don't know why, I just fucking love you guys. The accent. The demeanor. The history.
I just wish you guys could actually elect a right wing government
>>67686993
Same. It would be nice for a change.
>>67686993
I wish we could too.
>>67686993
OY VEY CAREFUL THERE YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THAT HISTORY CAUSE I SAID SO
>>67686993
Once Brexit has happened, we will.
And so will you, friend.
Trump in the White House.
Farage in Number 10.
A better world awaits us.
>>67686954
Yeah, wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him, I guess that means we should treat him inhumanely then?
If the police aren't treating him like a human being, I suppose he's not?
>>67686993
>The accent
Bloody yanks
>>67678525
>>67686903
Alright calm down lad
>>67687173
admit it. We sound sexy af
>>67687173
>Bloody yanks
Oh yeah..
Say it again
THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
FINAL
COUNT DOWWNNNNN
>Listening to Farage speaking
>IT'S THE FINAL COUNT DOWN
IT'S THE FINAL COUNT DOWN
IT'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
ONE HUNDRED DAYS
ONE HUNDRED DAYS TO SAVE BRITAIN
THE FINAL COUNTDOWN!
>>67687150
Why would we elect a right wing government? We don't want any right wing things. Which party is it that is for small decentralized government, less taxation and more liberty? I'll wait.
>>67687459
That's considered right wing these days.
>>67687459
Also, that would be UKIP, btw.
>>67686993
>Yank
>On /pol/
>Not insulting Brits to divide the Anglosphere on behalf of the Jews
wew lad
Anyone got a link to that video that played for Farage's intro before the final countdown started playing earlier?
>>67686134
Yes
Yes
Yes
No
Yes
>>67687459
You realise Conservatives are considered right wing right?!
>>67686993
>the accent
which one?
>>67687162
depends what he done? most probably humiliated him for dumb shit. what about all the paedos from the bbc do you see their faces on buses saying 'beware' fucking rolf harris was banging disabled children
>>67687459
Carswell has already talked about UKIP becoming something like that if Brexit happens. I think it was a daily politics interview, its on youtube somewhere.
>>67686134
hey, not a brit, but still going to reply.
>Do you want to Britain to leave the EU?
-Yes
>Do you believe European immigration from Poland, Romania and Bulgaria is a detriment to our economy?
-Yes
>Do you believe European immigration from Poland, Romania and Bulgaria is the reason for relatively high unemployment?
-Yes
>Do you believe European immigrants from Poland, Romania and Bulgaria are of lower quality than native English workers without jobs?
Look honestly, not really sure, i've heard about shit british workers, and good workers. So not answering this one.
>Do you believe European immigration from Poland, Romania and Bulgaria is one of the most important reasons for the 'NHS crisis'?
-Yes
>>67687570
Only Krautposters do that
>muh eternal Anglo
>>67687683
also chavs can bounce back like real men, think he's arsed about having asbo? back to grafting, drinking and smoking my son
>>67687642
>"David Cameron and George Osbourne come out with the same sort of things I would have said back when I was a Trot." - Peter Hitchens
>>67687794
Has anyone actually ever heard of this bastard before he turned up on American television? I've never heard or seen him before in my life before I caught an episode of the Daily Show.
>>67687497
You know what I mean.
>>67687534
>UKIP
>relevant after brexit
When we leave the EU and wages are still low, and unemployment is still high, and the NHS is still shit, UKIP will be out of the picture.
>>67687642
>considered
I know, it's barmy.
>>67687759
Carswell would certainly be the right man to lead a party like that. He could really switch UKIP's image to something more serious once we leave, and he sticks to his libertarian principles fiercely.
>>67687918
That's Peter Hitchens' opinion. Speak to the average Labour voter and you'd think we were having Conservative associations about to drive into immigrant ghettoes with flame-throwers any moment.
WHY?!
Why can't the US have politicians like Nigel.
GAH
>>67687933
He was on about 2 episodes of Mock the Week then disappeared for a while before showing up in America
>>67687964
Like I've said above, UKIP will mostly likely fold into the new patriotic, centire-right wing edge of the split Conservative party. Currently, in terms of parties and what they proposed, like say, at the last election in their manifestos, UKIP are the forerunners in promoting liberty and small government.
>>67686738
Yea I already did that.
>Immigrants help the economy "you're an Indian you should know"
I'm like what the fuck cunt! I'm here helping MY country, no matter how bad it looks right now. I'm not going out and leeching on others money.
>>67686769
Thank you friend. Now with this knowledge, I shall enlighten others.
>>67688033
>UKIP
>Libertarian
>>67687769
pretty based indian desu seem like a cool guy
>>67687769
Pahjeet my son, why do you think your opinion carries weight? Could it be that you share Brexit sentiment because the entire campaign is based on memes and not nuanced understanding and fact?
>>67688200
Based Pajeet, give us a call if you want us to sort out the Pakis for you
>>67688323
Nuanced understanding? You mean like the 'nuanced understanding' of trying to trick people into thinking the EU has been reformed when we haven't even got a binding agreement that gives up our veto and otherwise lets things remain somewhat as they are, until the next EU treaty?
>>67688180
Don't you think people will feel uncomfortable looking at anything UKIP related when we have left the EU and nothing on the ground has actually changed?
>>67686134
Yes
Absolutely
Yes, but even if not I want them to fuck off- actually the Poles are alrite but the Romanians and Bulgarians need to go
I don't care, they're not Brits so they shouldn't be here- whether they're good workers is irrelevant- and no I don't think they're "better" than Brits. The "lazy, sloth jeremy kyle Brit" is a meme forced by the establishment to justify the high immigration
I believe immigration and health tourism from other countries definitely puts a strain on the NHS. I've seen it at my local A and E and GP where 80% of the patients are not British.
>>67688672
This is the fundamental problem with all politics. The problem I'm alluding to is that people actually do trust Farage. He worked in the city, he's never said ONE SINGLE WORD about the bailout, he's been talking about the economy for years, he blames Europe for everything and PEOPLE REALLY TRUST HIM. It's absurd.
>>67688270
Listen to Carswell and Farage talking about economic and social issues. They're libertarians.
>>67688323
I have an Indian friend sitting next to me right now. He doesn't know much about the EU but he thinks that it would be lame for a country that used to rule India to cease being an independent nation and become part of an European superstate. The US used to be your colony too so I can understand his sentiment.
>>67688784
UKIP aren't promising a utopia or a land of milk and honey if we leave the EU. They just want to restore national sovereignty and depart from the EU project before it becomes impossible to do so. UKIP generally represents a centre-right, pro-liberty, conservative viewpoint that is still has supporters today.
>>67688970
Then why don't they ever talk about how Westminster has taken away more of our liberty than the EU?
You have more liberty as an EU citizen, simple as. Some countries will let you have firearms, some countries will even let you have free speech, some countries won't check your 100 year criminal record for a minimum wage job. Britain's government is complete shit and only a conman wouldn't have brought that up in any political career that lasted more than 5 minutes.
>>67689109
Do we let prisoners vote?
No we don't, so are we sovereign or not?
>>67679412
Surprise surprise the arabian cumbucket comes on, defending Germany for attempting to destroy Europe for the 3rd time in 100 years.
>>67688970
This. Farage supports small government, has openly challenged the ban on handguns (which makes sense. If I can have a Vepr 12 with 20 round drum magazines or a Ruger 10/22 with a 110 round drum magazine, or hell, a long barreled 1911 with a 15 round magazine, or a short barrelled muzzle loading revolver, what danger is there in a .22lr target pistol that isn't present in the other stuff?) as well as called for reduced duties, end to hate speech legislation, freedom of speech and the press and less restrictions on trade and business.
>>67689304
This would be the same EU that is planning to make criticising the EU an offence? Notice how almost all of the totalitarian legislation of the last 20 years has been passed by pro-EU politicians.
ttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1325398/Euro-court-outlaws-criticism-of-EU.html
>>67689522
No, we're not. Many other EU countries don't let prisoners vote either because this is a challenge brought about privately using EU law, not an EU edict.
>>67688945
>implying tha's not exactly what the tories did
They blamed Labour for the shitty economy after the crash and got into power.
>You have more liberty as an EU citizen, simple as
How is it "liberty" if you can't elect your own politicians. Is Westminster perfect? No, but the point is they'll be ACCOUNTABLE to the British electorate- something the Brussels bureaucrats never will be. Britain has no influence in the EU- point me to one examples where Britain has objected to something or wanted to change it and hasn't been overruled by the other 28 countries. Camerons "deal" proved how little Britain influences Brussels.
>>67689826
Oops meant to quote >>67689304 too
>>67689647
Hypothetical question: Would a truly reformed EU be good?
>>67689826
This. Add in the fact that Brexit will almost certainly divide the Tories into the Social Democratic Blairites and the David Davis faction and we will see a transformation in British politics where a proper pro-liberty party stands a chance of election.
>>67688282
kek, thanks lad.
>>67688443
oh yes. we can remove kebab together.
>>67688323
>why do you think your opinion carries weight?
because faggots like you don't understand what you're getting into.
You're no better than pic related>>67688282
>Could it be that you share Brexit sentiment because the entire campaign is based on memes and not nuanced understanding and fact?
UK ruled us for several years. If anything I know second hand how it is to be ruled by another country, where rules are being made without asking you.
the UK joined an economical union, and that's what it should have been. now they're increasingly meddling into UK affairs. Why would someone in their right mind want to give up their sovereignty?
>inb4 no one said we're giving up our sovereignty.
Sure thing mate.
The UK first came as peaceful traders, and then they started to meddle into our affairs, and before we knew the whole country was under their control. How dumb can you be to not see what EU is doing? I hold no grudge towards the UK but for fucks sake when I see dumb faggots like you, it boils my blood. At least we fought.
If you're a true Brit you'd vote to exit. If you want to stay you're probably a migrant who wants to leech on the facilities that UK provides.
It surprises me that your own techniques (or a version of it) is being used on you, and you're still blind to it.
Britain WILL exit.
>Some 18th-rate "country" discussing its jungle politics
Please don't do this on the American Donald Trump discussion board
>>67689973
It depends. If it honestly was truly reformed and either was better than being independent or was not at risk of damaging national sovereignty, then yes, it would be better.
As it currently stands, the question is whether you want Britain to be dissolved and become part of the current EU leadership's plans for a Federal USE. Reform is impossible at the moment. In fact, Britain would have a better chance of affecting reform by LEAVING then by staying in.
>>67689304
>Then why don't they ever talk about how Westminster has taken away more of our liberty than the EU?
Because it hasn't, you ignorant fucking cuckold.
>>67690164
Essentially this. Pro-EU politicians have undermined essential English and British liberties. Blair, Brown and Mandelson, the three responsible for how Britain currently is today, were all rampant Europhiles who wanted to bring this country closer to the EU. Cameron and Clegg shared their vision.
>>67689826
There are no good options here. On one hand you have the government that makes any self defense tool illegal, tracks all your phone and internet use, makes metalworking equipment illegal, flys helicopters over your house to look for plants, arrests you for posting on twitter, hands over vast sums of public money whenever the banks say they had an accident, prohibits the building of new homes to keep the ownership class happy, and on the other hand you have the EU. Can you at least understand why I'm not enthusiastic about our prospects if we're just left to our own devices. Honestly, we're just not that nice of a country.
>>67678525
holy shit a new national holidaty!
british independence day xD
firworks booze and a bbq would be cool
>>67690469
Except all of those proposals were pushed forward by people following the EU message and who wanted us to join the EU.
Internationalist, pro-EU politicians who remove old English freedoms and refuse to respect them are responsible for everything you just said.
>>67688110
You did, and you just dismissed him for being a manlet.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/nigel-farage/11467063/Nigel-Farage-the-American-Rand-Paul-is-my-soulmate-from-the-Tea-Party.html
>>67690149
I don't see how you've reasoned that. Also, USE would be fucking awesome. What's with all the loyalty to Britain's government?
>>67686008
This is how you deserve to be treated if you don't tow the line in this country. Do you think his little asbo conviction was ever brought before a jury? No, a magistrate settled it. Our history is fucking brutal in this country, from divine right of kings to world war 1, the common man has been fucked again and again and again. The USA set a new gold standard for civilization in 1776, and although it's a long shot, if we could somehow emulate that with a USE (obviously after DRASTIC EU reforms) that would be absolutely fucking fantastic.
Will brit/pol/ have a big gay get together to celebrate Brexit?
>>67690656
I don't believe Europe is central to leftism. I think it's its own separate cancer, and speaking practically most of the opposition we can have to it in this country will come from the Polish.
What is British culture right now if we're honest? It's dancing on ice, come dine with me and X factor. We are fat useless cunts who will believe anything. We need proper people from eastern bloc countries to shake things up. I know who I sound like, but it's actually fucking true. Say it aint so.
>>67686250
it's banter, besides, how could anybody in their right mind be offended by being called a sheep shagger, it's so obviously not true it's not even offensive
and if it were true then you deserve to be offended
>>67678525
BUMP!
AWOOOM8
>>67690874
1. I'm loyal to British government because for hundreds of years it was very good at protecting rights and freedoms, was a system that developed organically and works very well to this day; the problems arise when you abandon key parts of it (as people have in order to force their agendas through). I'm also loyal to it because we can choose to remove it if we want. We can vote out a government. We can vote in a republican party if we wanted to abolish the Monarchy, and then we could vote in a monarchist party if we wanted to re-establish it. We cannot do that in the EU where we are only 8% of the EU parliament which cannot even restrict what the Commission does. This 8% by the way, will shrink even lower by 2020.
2. The US Gold Standard is OUR Standard. It's just the rights of an average Englishman iat the time put down on paper and assured by a constitution. Instead of giving up our systems and going over to Continentialist style policies, we should look to the past for our rights and freedoms while keeping those not covered in the past (the very few that are). In addition, you say time and time again that if Europe can be reformed. It CANNOT be reformed as it currently is and Britain's continual membership in it will not bring about the reform you seek.
>>67686339
kek that picture
>make a load of signs with slogans
>pose for the pic by raising your hands in front of the words
>>67691163
>We need proper people from eastern bloc countries
>>67690164
Yeah and this is what the current head of the European commission said about Germany: “For me, the new Germany exists only in order to ensure the existence of the State of Israel and the Jewish people.”- Martin Schulz
These are the kind of traitorous kikes that run the EU and dictate its policy.
>>67690469
Well then move somewhere else if you don't like it here. I think the thing though is that we'll always be able to change our politicians and government with regular elections. You have to think beyond the current Tories. Are you really gonna say to your grandkids in 50 years "oh, I threw away our liberty and democracy because I was scared of the meany tories and cameron"- imo that's very very short sighted. We can always change our government but if we stay in the EU we'll never get out- that's it. More eastern euro countries will join- Turkey eventually- and the UK will disappear into a wasteland on the edge of the united states of Europe.
>>67680824
Trump has been doing it way before 99 boyo
>>67691401
>it was very good at protecting rights and freedoms
Not those of the people we colonized though
>>67691163
I will say it ain't so. What we have are institutions that are driven towards globalism and integration with Europe, who refuse to teach British history, who refuse to promote British institutions and standards. Why would a Slovakian or a Pole care about Britain? Because he's white? Plenty of people are white and I wouldn't call them my countryman just because they're white. You're seeing things far too bluntly.
Things have atrophied, yes, but that's due to deliberate mismanagement to promote European identity and discourage British identity.
>>67691575
fuck off he has... all he cared about before this was his business, which is fair enough. Just saying he has zero effect on Farage at all.
>>67691840
trump was saying similar shit in the 80s on tv mate...he was on opera saying the states is acting gay and shits going down the swany
>>67691601
No one alive today had anything to do with colonialism so don't see how it's relevant. The world was vastly different back then.
>>67691601
Actually to be brutally honest, they were in many cases; end of slavery forced, end of barbaric practices like burning women at funerals, etc. At the very least we were not as harsh to them as the original rulers were.
Now I'm not saying the Empire was perfect or wonderful. But that's also beside the point as I'm talking about people actually in Britain.
>Inb4 some random atrocity
Far worse was taking place on the continent or elsewhere. We never had the Terror in Britain. We never had the September Massacres. The worst we had was Peterloo which was brought about by drunk militia who were punished for their actions.
>>67691601
FUCK YOUR WHITE GUILT!
>>67691163
What fairyland are you living in where slavs are some superior people to Brits? This is pure kikery nonsense. If they're so great why are their countries worse and they all have to move here?
>>67691840
No. He's been saying the same shut since the 80's.
But you're right, nigel probably wasn't swayed by him.
Also you fucks better vote no
>>67692127
Another example.
Britain may have had the death penalty and transportation, but in France, 130,000 people were killed for not supporting the new government.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_the_Vend%C3%A9e
Point to where in the last 300 years of British history there is an equivalent. The closest thing we have to it is the Highland Clearances which don't even come close and were done largely by local landlords with the support of Scottish troops.
