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I find it very strange that when Barack Obama was elected, it
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I find it very strange that when Barack Obama was elected, it was very clear that he was a liberal. However, today in 2015 you have many liberals who denounce him and say that he isn’t actually a liberal. They bring up drone strikes and the operation to find and kill Osama Bin Laden. That is really their entire argument, however what I think is truly enlightening is the fact that they say he is entirely, decidedly NOT liberal as a whole.

To me, it certainly seems like it’s a bit of an excuse, right? I mean, when you take into account that not a single liberal policy has actually improved anything in this country for anyone, when you take into account that literally every single liberal idea that Obama has put to the test has either flopped or been significantly detrimental in some way, you start to see that it’s not that he isn’t a liberal, it’s just that liberal policies don’t work. So, rather than admit that and change their opinions, they simply twist it and say that he is decidedly not liberal, and that if we could only elect someone who is even MORE of a far-left extremist like Bernie Sanders, surely all would be right with the country. As if going even further down this rabbit hole is the only possible solution to Barack Obama’s blatant “conservative” ways. Isn’t that just incredible? That these people actually believe that since Obama’s policies have failed, it must be that Obama is secretly a conservative, that he is a “wolf in sheep’s clothing”(-Oliver Stone) who has been operating entirely backwards to ensure that liberal policies fail.
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It all seems so backwards, from the outside looking in. There is this crabs in a bucket mentality going on in this group of progressive agenda advancers and “social justice warriors”. Barack Obama is why 20-30% of your income is taken away from you. Barack Obama and his liberal policies are why almost every local business that has tried to open up in the past 7 years has been swiftly closed down in this disastrous economy. Barack Obama is the first black president yet the black community is in worse shape now than they have been since the 70’s/80’s. Barack Obama is reason the Keystone Pipeline hasn’t been able to sufficiently provide six figure jobs to hard working American citizens. Barack Obama is why we have record welfare percentages, record unemployment, and record government assistance that saps hard working American’s of their own financial gains (That 20-30% income tax). Barack Obama willingly let the NSA spy on innocent American citizens. Barack Obama raised our debt by more than any other president in history, and more than the combined presidencies of EVERY president from George Washington to Bill Clinton. Barack Obama is why 11 million Americans are getting disability payments from the government while the majority of those 11 million are not disabled enough to be incapable of working.
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You can say what you’d like, but the vast majority of the above facts and statistics are strictly due to far-left quasi-Socialist liberal policies. To say that increasing hand outs doesn’t decrease productivity is to say that fact is not fact. To say that increasing taxes by such a vast amount doesn’t negatively impact the lives of almost every American citizen is to intentionally remain ignorant upon learning the truth.

Indoctrination is a powerful thing.

So to say that Barack Obama isn’t a liberal is to say that Bernie Sanders isn’t a socialist, it is to say that Bill Clinton wasn’t a womanizer, it is to say that Hillary Clinton didn’t give the order to let 4 Americans die in Benghazi.
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I understand being a liberal in 2006. I get it, it hadn’t been put to the test and you were tired of George Bush. I understand that. What I don’t understand is believing that Obama’s leftist policies failed because they WEREN’T LEFTIST ENOUGH!? This is how far we have fallen. When something is put to the test, you need to judge it in an unbiased fashion. Socialism in America has been put to the test, we tested the waters, and it was severely detrimental to the day to day lives of tens of millions of American citizens. To now say that we need to dive further into that poisoned well because Obama “isn’t a liberal” is to intentionally remain ignorant, indoctrinated, and manipulated in the face of blatant facts and pure enlightenment.

You love to tell me not to be a science denier, but you deny science every time you state that America should go further down this rabbit hole. Even worse, actually, because questioning climate change is questioning theory, while questioning the ill-effects of Socialism is questioning proven fact.
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We live in a world where the left are more likely to side with the illegal immigrants than the legal ones, more likely to sympathize with an illegal’s issues than a national-born citizen of the United States of America. We live in a world where the left are more likely to sympathize with a violent criminal than the innocent victim. We live in a world where the left are more likely to believe in delusional dreams than historical facts. We live in a world where the left are more likely to side with an easy woman who got knocked up by a stranger than the innocent life inside her womb. We live in a world where the left are more likely to believe a criminal than a police officer. We live in a world where the left will sympathize with terrorists before they sympathize with our own military. We live in a world where insanity has become their truth and their logic. We show them fact, they attempt to dispute it.
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Fact is fact. Fact is not good or bad, fact is not black or white. It’s just fact. It can not be avoided, yet they try. It can not be explained away, yet they try. It can not be loop-holed, yet they try. They are in favor of Planned Parenthood being funded by the government, yet disregard the fact that it was founded solely on the idea that putting free abortions in low-income neighborhoods would be able to keep the black population down. They are in favor of illegal immigration, yet disregard the fact that illegal immigrants are taken advantage of by greedy farmers who use their cheap, sub-minimum wage labor instead of mechanizing like farms all over the world have. They are in favor of letting ISIS run rampant in the middle east, yet disregard the fact that ISIS slaughters entire schools full of children, crucifies gays, and decapitates any non-Muslim they find. They are in favor of banning guns, yet disregard the fact that every 14 year old white suburban freshman in high school can get any amount of illegal drug he or she wants, proving that regardless of legality, criminals will find a way, so just take guns away from every law-abiding citizen and only let the criminals have them. They are in favor of late-term abortion, abortions where the child could easily live outside of the womb, could easily live a long and healthy life, could easily be adopted. Yet, they’re in favor of killing them off.
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Only read the first post and yeah liberal and conservative are always constantly changing. Hell what was considered moderate 20 years ago would be consider wayyy right wing conservative now.
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We must become the change we wish to see, so I do my best to impose upon my fellow man as little as possible in every day life. I don’t litter, because when you litter, that trash will stay there until someone else is burdened with the task of cleaning up after you. I don’t play my music loud, because not everyone likes my music. I’m not loud in public, whether it be in conversation, laughter, or anger. I don’t cause scenes, I don’t stress others out. I don’t speed, I use my turn signal every time I change lanes or make a turn. I don’t smoke, for many reasons, but also because the smoke is a nuisance imposed upon others. I am clean, because when you go to the store reeking of body odor you are imposing your stench upon others. That is the change I commit myself to, so I offer this to anyone who is a criminal sympathizer, a terrorist sympathizer, an illegal sympathizer, or a loose-woman sympathizer; Become the change you wish to see. If you believe our military to be evil and terrorists to simply be fighting for their freedom against our awful oppressive ways, go to Syria and get your head chopped off! If you believe our police officers are evil and racist, go spend the day with hardened criminals and see what happens to you! If you believe late-term abortion should be legal, then you believe life doesn’t matter, and you should… Maybe… Abort yourself? That’s the change you want to see, right? Take a stand for what you believe in! OR, since you believe it’s a woman’s right to kill her child, go advocate for any parent’s right to kill their children of any age, simply because they don’t want to be burdened by them anymore. If you believe that abortion is fair, then surely that is too, right? But no, that would be pure blasphemy. But… It’s exactly what you want. There is no difference between a woman terminating her pregnancy and a woman strangling her 6 year old. It’s -literally- the same exact thing.
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I don’t know what the solution to these problems are. When delusion is so rampant and facts are blatantly disregarded, what more can you do? You do your best to educate, but they refuse to be educated. You do your best to enlighten, yet they refuse to be enlightened. You do your best to sympathize with the way they see things, but no matter what, they won’t sympathize with the way you see those things. When someone is so steadfastly rooted in their ideologies that they libel and slander you with any number of -ists or -phobics in the face of any and all opposition, there really isn’t much you can do. Racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, islamaphobic, it just goes on and on. You state something based around historical evidence, logic, and common sense, they’ll call you a racist for acknowledging it. It has happened for so long that it is now the common practice, the common answer, and is commonly accepted as a strong argument.
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I hope you didn't spend too much time on this post OP
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Just trying to enlighten the masses of indoctrinated louts.
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