>be me
>18
>get first job working fast food
>work hard for 2 weeks, paycheck comes
>really excited to buy my own things, feel proud of myself, get the fruits of my labor, all that jazz
>"fuck yeah!"
>$244
>wat
>$65.55 taken for taxes
...
So right now I feel really cheated, and very angry... Is this a common feeling in the work world? I mean $65.55 is not alot of money, but God damn...
And then I think of WHO the money went to.
So why do I have to pay my money to people who don't make money? Why can't they get a job like me? I literally just walked into Whataburger and asked for a job, and they just gave it to me on the spot. What in the fuck?
Taxes go to a lot of things besides social programs, although those social programs are the largest expenditure. But they also go to the military, government employees, and infrastructure.
>>67716567
>I literally just walked into Whataburger and asked for a job, and they just gave it to me on the spot.
Congratulations. You have attained the American Dream.
>>67716721
>Military
Oh fuck.
Yeah you mean the military we aren't using? I'm sitting here watching a video of ISIS burning bibles and hearing Fox talk about how they beheaded some people today... What the fuck? Why should I pay for a military that isn't even being used?
>Government employees
Well I guess that's fine... Except that most government run businesses are fucking horrible. I had to stand in line at the DMV for fucking ever to get my permits.
>Infrastructure
The roads in my town suck...
So is all my money just going basically down the drain?
>>67716567
Open a savings account like a big boy...jesus...
>>67716567
If you don't want to pay income taxes, go to Texas. In Arizona you can opt out too, but unless you're like me and don't pay taxes, then you have to pay more at tax season or whatever.
>>67716567
Youre paying for social security you will never recieve.
Literally a piramid scheme
>>67716927
How will that help? I'm not sure how to into finances at the moment since I only just started working.
>>67716828
I mean this is just fucking bullshit. I'm pretty sure if I were on welfare right now I'd be making more money than I would be if I were working. Everyone I know in my family has said the system is fucking stupid and shitty and /pol/ has talked alot about being fucked over by it but holy fucking shit I never thought it'd be this fucking horrible.
>>67716923
Are you retarded? The military's existence is what keeps us safe, even when they aren't being used.
And protip, you'll get a lot of that money back in your federal and state tax return at the end of the fiscal year. If you're super low-income and you're living alone, you also qualify for programs like food stamps and whatnot.
>>67716567
I pay more in taxes than your entire salary. How do you think I feel?
[spoiler]Good, because I have paved roads, police, and a functioning government.[/spoiler]
>>67716923
>So is all my money just going basically down the drain?
If it's government ran yeah pretty much
>>67716567
Are you in college? Trade school? Community college?
>>67717106
>The military's presence keeps us safe
Well I can't argue with that, I apologize for my short sightedness.
Also
>Food stamps
No thanks.
>>67717230
>I pay more in taxes than your entire salary. How do you think I feel?
Well shit. So if I get a better paying job that means I'll just fucking lose even MORE money? What fucking bogus ass shit is this? This is making my head spin with internal contradictions. Land of opportunity my fucking ass.
>>67717336
I'm going to be going to trade school once I save up some money(which will take a while apparently)for welding so soon hopefully.
Youre money goes sttaight to those failed new gen jets
Timmy should have blown up an IRS building.
>>67716567
You'll file a tax return next year. Since you probably won't make that much this year you will get all the taxed money back.
I wanna fuck 18 year old OP.
>>67717230
>a functioning government.
Well that's certainly up for debate
>>67717519
>So if I get a better paying job that means I'll just fucking lose even MORE money?
Do you know literally nothing about the world? What kind of retard are you?
>>67717519
>Well shit. So if I get a better paying job that means I'll just fucking lose even MORE money?
>TFW boss told me I got a raise
>TFW I realized it bumped me into a higher tax bracket
Because you're making so little money as this is your first job, you will get most of it back in your taxes.
but yeah it does suck. However, you're a long way from the next tax bracket so getting a better job eventually would be a good idea. Hone some skills.
>>67716567
relax, low wage scum.
You'll actually get more than your withholding back next spring when you file your taxes because of the Earned Income Tax Credit.
>>67716567
>And then I think of WHO the money went to.
>>67717897
Well considering I'm only 18, I probably don't know much about the world. Perhaps you can educate me on where I'm wrong or what exactly it is that I'm saying that is so stupid?
>>67718000
Working on my progarmming skills and learning some physics. Still not sure if trade school is where I wanna go. Ah well. Everyone finds a way.
>>67716567
Here's a tip to screw the IRS out of stealing your hard earned shekels:
1. Go to your state website and create an LLC. Generally speaking, it's only a hundred or so.
2. Go to Fiverr or Upwork and offer some work. All you need to do is land a few clients to make it look like you have a business (and not a hobby). Set up website/etc.
3. At end of year you can write off a FUCKTON of shit, such as partial rent (for your home office), electricity, internet, gas, food etc et al.
You're fucking those traitors in our government who exist solely to fuck the general populace.
>>67718231
>Perhaps you can educate me on where I'm wrong or what exactly it is that I'm saying that is so stupid?
Because most people know that you pay more tax as your income rises, like...
ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?
>>67718478
and if you're too stupid to follow along....performing steps 1-3 will make it so that you get LESS money stolen from you every year by the anti-American domestic terrorists in the IRS.
>>67717230
statist
>>67718231
Some goes into taxes and the rest goes into your social security and your 401k.
>>67716567
2nd. Income tax is he greatest scam in the country today. Not only do these faggots take a significant percentage of your money but they have a complete listing of everything you've done and can throw you in prison if it's off. Fuck those pieces of shit.
>>67718124
EITC is only really for families with children, if you don't have children you get like 200 bucks.
>>67718627
So fight fire with fire: >>67718478
>>67716567
should have claimed 3 or 4 allowanceswhen you signed all your shit when yougot hired. you goofed. youcould be getting 10 dollars taken out right now lol maybe less.
of course if youclaim more you don't get as much back when you file your taxes. still,. rather have that moneynow. I always claim 3
>>67716567
ITT: Little timmy finds out freedom isn't free, you have to pay a hefty fuckin' fee and if you don't pay your $ .05 who will?
18 and life, you got it, 18 and life, you know
Your job is time and it's 18 and life to go
You just became 60% of a man. Now just get cheated on by a woman you've been good to for a year+
>>67717519
>no thanks
Spotted the retard! You're paying for them anyway, no sense in not using them, dumbass.
Lucky you op. With a paycheck like that you're in the lowest possible tax bracket. I consistently lose $500 or more to taxes every 2 weeks.
>>67716567
>Why can't they get a job like me? I literally just walked into Whataburger and asked for a job, and they just gave it to me on the spot.
Jesus Christ, what state do you live in? Pennsylvania is a fucking nightmare if you want to get an entry-level job.
>walk into 20 businesses
>"Apply online"
>"Apply online"
>"Apply online"
>every last one
>actually apply online
>only McDonalds calls back
>fail the interview (wouldn't be surprised if it was because I'm white, literally every employee in that McDonalds is black)
>jobless
>>67716567
God, this fucking bullshit again
I've posted it before and I'll post it again
What would happen if taxes didn't exist? Tax money put us on the moon, after all. If taxes were optional and you were allowed to pay whatever you wanted to go towards whatever you wanted, then nothing would get done. People would just fill out the form and think "Yeah, I'd like to pay some of my optional taxes to NASA, but then again, I'd have to pay, so fuck it" or "Yeah, I'd like to maintain the roads, but fuck it" and keep 100% of their income which then would go towards what?
Infrastructure would fall to shit, so it would be mighty difficult to take 100% of that income and make the trip to Wal Mart with roads becoming unusable when it rains.
Why do you think people engage in crime? Crime doesn't pay? Bullshit, it pays very well which is why people do it. I've never seen one coke dealer who gives his product away for free because he thinks of selling coke as a "labor of love". People are shit and won't do ANYTHING for the greater good unless they're FORCED to.
You're young, unskilled, and worthless. Without that job, you'd be homeless. But thanks to what will inevitably happen to you with an attitude like your's, you'll be subsidized by the government to which you paid that GIGANTIC amount of money for two weeks of literal shit-tier work.
Fast food is the easiest fucking thing in the world once you realize no one cares about you or how hard you work. Working hard to impress anyone only pisses everyone else off.
>2 weeks
>$300
did you work 3x a week?
80% of tax dollars go to entitlements AKA welfare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bavou_SEj1E
i always fantasized about so many people calling off work to the point where productivity is halted and demands were made to cut off welfare to brown people. a man can only dream. itd never happen because the next iphone purchase is so much more important than freedom
With federal tax, state tax, and railroad retirement tax I have almost 40% of my paycheck taken away from me and I'm only in the 25% bracket.
>>67716923
You're such a simpleton that it actually hurts
>>67717106
You sir win dumb fuck of the night award. Either you are a brainwashed retarded boot licker or you are getting paid to shit post at rapid speed. The military is a bunch of retarded white trash and niggers who can't think for themselves and realize they are killing for no real reason. They can't even protect our borders yet we go to foreign countries to fight wars for israel, and take over the heroin and oil from the country not to mention gold and minerals.
You are a fucking moron. Documents released under FOIA requests prove nearly every major war was started over false flag ops and so was 9/11. It's easier to stay asleep or be too stupid to be able to come to the proper conclusion. I wish I could go back.
>>67717230
>a functioning government
>>67719548
>Tax money put us on the moon, after all.
I didn't get to go
In the UK we have a thing where you don't have to pay tax on the first £10,000 or so a year
>>67719548
MUH ROADS
>>67716567
WELCOME TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
real life will do this to you
>>67718478
have you done this and does it really work?
>>67719773
sure thing bud, believe the tv and newspapers because after all they can not lie to us. You are a fucking moron. The issue is the government, the irs is a fraudulent organization that shouldn't be in existence. The amendment was never properly ratified and it's a directly unapportioned tax. The tax goes to pay the interest which we pay when our money is loaned to us via the privately owned federal reserve.
You are drinking the kool aid dumb fuck.
>>67719548
Not sure if bait but I'll bite
>Tax money put us on the moon
Yeah and that was it. After the collapse of the Soviet Union there was no reason to keep the dick measuring contest going.
Now private companies like Spacex are the future of space travel. Yeah, Spacex is somewhat subsidized by the government, but that's just because NASA has become a huge pile of garbage that can't get shit done. The space shuttles were the end of NASA, they haven't accomplished jackshit after that.
As Milton Friedman said, if you were to put the government in charge of the Sahara desert, you would have shortages of sand after a few years. I'm not saying people shouldn't pay taxes at all, but the system through which they go through is extremely inefficient. That's because the government's main job is spending and not producing anything of worth (not that they could anyway).
>>67716567
you'll get all your money back come tax season next year.
>>67716567
got to hab money for dem programs, jamiqua and tyrone can't pay for their babbies so the working man has to.
>>67720335
tyrone here is flustered! your neet days are numbered. panic! panic while you can! because soon you will feel nothing but hunger and pain!
>>67716567
Get used to it faggot
itt: millennial gets a taste of self sacrifice----he doesn't like it-----big surprise
>working
>>67718649
Having kids makes it much higher, but still it's a backdoor welfare payment to poorfags anyway.
>For tax year 2013, the maximum EITC benefit for a single person or couple filing without qualifying children is $487. The maximum EITC with one qualifying child is $3,250, with two children, it is $5,372, and with three or more qualifying children, it is $6,044.
The point is that OP makes $300-66, so that's 22% taken out. 1/3 of that is Social Security. He won't see that in the refund. His withholding rate is probably set at 15% because that's a nice safe number for companies to use to ensure that their workers will be owed a refund by the end of the year (theoretically at least they don't know what he makes elsewhere). At $7200/yr gross pay he's going to end up paying a total of about $100 in income tax or $2 per paycheck.
So if you look at each paycheck adding back what will come back he's really making $300-$22-2= $276.
>>67716567
Welcome my son
>>67719466
Same thing here yank its fucked
>Be in NSW
>given up walking into places since all they get are jobseek (dole) people coming in and just turn everyone away by default
>Go online
>Never hear back
>rinse and repeat
>>67721379
>At $7200/yr gross pay he's going to end up paying a total of about $100 in income tax or $2 per paycheck.
Oops. $4 per pay check. Forgot pay wasn't weekly.
So $274 each pay check.
>>67716567
I'm almost 50 years old. My daughter is 18 and works in an ice cream shop. She brings home delicious milk shakes. She gets above minimum wage. £7 per hour. She also works as a hairdresser.
I've done loads of jobs. I got paid £2.20 per hour when I was at uni during the holidays. It's nothing. It was before minimum wage laws I couldn't feed myself nor pay the rent. I earn good money now.
Pic is the legal minimum.
>>67716567
that feel when I work for a charity and dont have to pay a ton of taxes.
>>67720273
1. It works
2. It's 100% legal
Why haven't you created an LLC, started a small business on the side and at the end of the year saved yourself from getting fucked in the ass by the anti-America domestic terrorists in the IRS?
You will probably wind up making a few thousand more a year by setting up an LLC.
Just be sure that you can cover your ass and it legitimately looks like a "business" instead of a "hobby". There is a litmus test you can find on the internet for that and you can manipulate as you see fit.
sic semper evello mortem tyrannis
>>67721647
>almost 50
The fuck
>>67716567
Welcome to the world of people who work. The government takes your money and wastes most of it on stupid shit.
>>67716567
Welcome to the republican party
>>67716567
7.25$ wage Cuck
I'm sorry bro.
>>67721808
Yeah. We're here. You forget we've been here since it was only on college campuses and UseNet was 4chan.
>>67717519
Tbh senpai I heard Somalia doesn't have a high income tax
>>67716567
>You're taking THIS MUCH out of my salary!? Those fucking government jews!
This is the story of how OP turned into a right-winger.
>>67720546
>Yeah and that was it.
>One example, baseless generalizations follow
/pol/, I quit.
Here, new tax payer. You need to see this.
<---- This is where your money goes, assuming you actually pay federal taxes and don't get most of it back in a refund check next month.
People need to see this shit. The vast majority of tax money from people who are "successful" (above $50K/yr) goes to the federal budget. This is how your DC government blows that money that could otherwise be in your bank account. Notice how much of it is social programs for people who are not working.
60% of all federal dollars are now spent on social programs to support non-workers.
Perhaps Mitt Romney actually had a point?
>>67718231
Kid, if you turned 18 without knowing that and you're in 4chinz asking for education, society really fucked up in raising you.
>>67716567
You don't even want to know what I pay in taxes. I like to think my specific dollars are used to kill people with our drones though.
Work for an NGO. Pay $50 tax on $2000 paycheque per fortnight. Thanks Christian country!
In Germany you can earn up to 450 cuckbucks tax-free as a "mini job", the glorious invention that allows a new proletariat of forever-poors and helps destroying liveable jobs for the benefit of undercutting the whole of Europe with an unbeatably cheap german workforce
Sounds about right.
>majored in petroleum engineering
>got on with shell
>single
>no kids
>make $90k year
>government takes 25k
some tom-fuckery in that....
>>67720874
Definitely not a nigger. I'd bet you're one of those people who never personally saw niggers noggin in their life, you just hate niggers. There are thousands of people in the area I live now and you are all fucking retarded. Although their racism isn't unfounded it's still pathetic.
Keep drinking the kool aid faggot.
I paid $15,000 in taxes last year.
>>67719466
>>67721527
GO TO COLLEGE LMAO
KEY WORD LMAO
>>67721808
What? My age is not important. I only mentioned it because OP stated his age. But the only thing I notice is that my knees are fucked. I can't kneel to pick things up nor run.
I can still fight. Do you want some, fucker?
I pay $27k in taxes (on $67k salary)
send help and AR-15s
>>67716567
Feel the Bern!
>work hard for 2 weeks, paycheck comes
>$244
This isn't right. Even if you were taxed $0 and got $310 for 2 weeks of work, it wouldn't be right.
You can't live off that, it's basically slave labor. Guess who has to pay for people who make this tiny amount of money? Tax payers pick up the slack and dish out welfare and food stamps and stuff to them, while the corporations themselves save money by not paying them wages you can live off of.
>>67716567
>So why do I have to pay my money to people who don't make money? Why can't they get a job like me?
You don't understand the government or the economy if you think your taxes just went to freeloaders on welfare
HINT: It's going to worse
>>67716567
>>wat
>>$65.55 taken for taxes
Yeah, Dude. Feel the Bern...
>>67721271
>taxes
>self sacrifice
>>67716567
>Be me
>Be 15
>First job pays 5 dollars per hour
>First paycheck after taxes is 340 dollars
What the fuck are you doing wrong?
>>67723531
Render unto Caesar
>>67723944
My knees are fucked too and I'm only 22. Just fuck my shit up when I get older.
Complaining is one thing, doing something about it is another.
As long as universal suffrage exists, every group in society is going to have their little gimmedats and they are going to vote for it over and over and over again.
>>67716567
all those high taxes start to mean something when you enter the workforce
berniefags say it's not enough
they want it all
>>67716567
>I mean $65.55 is not alot of money
$1573.20 a year
ikr i mean what could anyone buy with $1573.20
>>67716567
BASED TEXAS OP. MAKE ME A PATTYMELT BITCH
>>67716990
You know you still pay federal income tax every paycheck in Texas right?
t. Texan wage slave
>>67724601
roads
>>67716567
>literal autism
You don't make enough money either way, kid. You'll see the vast majority of that come tax season next year, and likely extra.
>>67716567
Nigger I make 2776 every two weeks and bring home like $1300
>>67724748
But anon where we're going in this degenerate world we don't need roads
>>67721739
thanks bro. A true patriot
>>67722925
American education really is a laughing-stock. It all started before the 20th century when they starting paying women to be grade school teachers because administrators could pay them less for being nothing more than glorified nannies that taught straight from the book.
We've really got to overhaul education before it's too late and we're too stupid to even know how to even discuss the problem, much less solve it.
>>67716567
You'll get it back friends. I've been in your position.
>>67716923
If people use their brains they start to realize how hard they are getting fucked.
Did you know government takes in 55k per household in taxes every year.
Do you really feel like you are getting that back? Even a quarter?
>>67716567
You do realize most of that money is going to yourself right? To pay for your future Social Security checks and the Medicaid you qualify for (since you're making so little money).
Food stamps and other forms of welfare are a tiny, tiny percent of the government budget.
>>67725043
It's easy to solve.
Women child bare and stay at home, the husband goes to work.
It's literally that simple
>>67719466
don't listen to
>>67723794
Learn a trade. You can live great and don't have to sit through Liberal U. You wont have to pay back a student loan at retarded interest rates and should society collapse like the autists here have insisted for years you'll have way more job prospects than a programmer or a business executive.
>>67725121
>you're paying for your own Social Security and Medicaid
>>67725121
Social security is the largest scam in history. Kill your self
>>67716567
You and 10 other citizens work to pay government leeches( aka gov employees).
Welcome to the grind, anon.
Learn to budget and no impulse buying.
>>67725212
muh soggy knee though.
See, a lot of these issues that do have simple solutions are complicated simply because some people don't like those solutions.
>>67716567
that is a normal feeling at first but you get used to it. do you live in a big city or small town.
>>67716567
You'll get most or all of that back when you file your taxes, since you don't make enough. If you *really* need that extra money now, as opposed to during tax season, you can fill out the paperwork with your employer to not take any witholding from your pay (since you know that come tax time you're not going to owe the government any federal tax). But, if you're not in dire need of that extra bit of money right now, it's probably best just to leave things as they are and enjoy your tax season bonus deposited into your bank account, etc.
>>67723969
That's a mental amount of tax.
Get a good accountant. I'm self employed and earn a lot of money. My accountant makes sure I obey the law but he saves me a fortune.
I'm just a plumber. I fix toilets and install showers, but it pays well. I pay my accountant to make all my business legal and save me some coin. Wife is a nurse, so her taxes are taken directly from her pay.
I'm 23 and I have no idea how taxes work. I've been working for about 4 months now, and there's always a like 200 bucks taken out of my paycheck every two weeks, is that all I have to do for taxes or is there something else? I've heard people talk about tax returns and things in like February or April or something.
>>67725668
See: >>67725544
>>67725830
So it will be deposited automatically?
>>67716567
>Be me 18
>Get first job doing graphical design for my step-dad paying $15.75 hourly
>Make roughly 500 every 2 weeks
>Meanwhile my biological dad is buying me a 2016 Camaro 2SS, as long as I pay half the payment
>I can
>Mfw OP is a butt mad cock mongler who got a shitty minimum wage job and can't manage it, while I ride around in my all American 6th generation Camaro SS
It's not hard to make money as long as you aren't a faggot who chooses a shitty minimum wage job.
>>67725560
deducted from that is another $240 annually for state sponsored media (not even kidding look up "GEZ", basically german telly license)
I don't have a car but if I had I'd get scroogled because a gallon of gas is around $5 here (and that's with the super low oil prices, because 80% of the price is fixed "gas tax" that will never drop)
>>67716567
Welcome to adulthood
>>67725953
You can either get a physical check or specify a bank account number for the money to be automatically deposited in.
>>67726134
you should do a google search of all unions in your area and apply for jobs with them. My bro makes 47 bucks an hour doing guard rail for free ways. minimum wage is 8.15 in my state so that's quite a bit.
>>67716567
how can it possibly be legal to earn only 500 bucks a month in USA?
>>67726397
I call bullshit. The minimum wage is what, $7? that would be $1170 considering 40 hours a week
>>67726538
most fast food workers don't get 40 hours a week bruhz
>>67726538
He's probably working nowhere near 40, especially as an 18 year old presumably student, and on his first couple weeks. 20-30 is about what that check is.
>>67724429
I had to go to a funeral on Sunday. A dear friend.
My wife has gone. My dad has gone. I keep losing people. It tells me that life goes on and we all must shuffle off this mortal coil. I still have my mum and daughter.
I don't fear death. I just don't want it to be painful nor long. If I get squashed by a bus or whatever, then at least I can go knowing that I've had a good life.
Why deny what is inevitable?
>>67725953
You'll fill out your taxes at tax time, probably using the 1040EZ form (mostly for single people who don't need to "itemize" deductions, and for couples without kids). The EZ form is like 1 or 2 pages, very simple, and somewhere in there will be where you tell them the bank account info where to send your refund, etc. Even more likely is that you'll fill out this form online for free through one of the major tax service companies which partner with the federal government and offer that as a free service for filers with uncomplicated taxes, etc.
>>67716567
>not knowing about taxes
>>67725239
that was exactly my point, you autismo.
>>67726712
>>67726656
so then he's not working "2 weeks", but what, actually 5 days?
>>67726369
I probably should, but I got a good thing going here for now. It's for my step-dad so my hours are really flexible and I need that for college in a few months.
you shouldve used your white privilege to become a millionaire... like the rest of us
>>67724429
I fucked my knees up after running stairs with my 50 lb vmax weight vest. Basically you wore out your meniscus. Take glucosamine with msm before running and afterward. It works.
>>67717106
>The military's existence is what keeps us safe
This is what goys actual believe...
>>67726954
what're you going to the kollugez for
>>67727356
kek
>>67722711
80% of taxes are wasted on interest, frivolous military spending, and public programs
>daily reminder that the income tax is disproportionately on the middle class
could be worse
>>67717106
Yeah man, those 900 bases propped up around the world really are defending this country so god damn much.
Fucking idiot.
>>67726134
>buying expensive toys when you're 18
not gonna make it
>18
>Graduated early so I get to be a NEET until August
>Then I have to go to college
>tfw saved Birthday/Christmas money for games
I think I'm gonna get Black Desert tomorrow. I've been playing a lot of heavily modded Skyrim but my save is getting pretty unstable.
>>67725239
What would be the best way to get into trades? Wouldn't mind trying out something like welding but who the fuck would take an unskilled and inexperienced worker as an apprentice? Or is there a way to actually get in without spending tons of money on schooling
>>67716567
>Be me
>18 years old
>Has two jobs plus Highschool
>Gets paid every week for two weeks worth of work.
Get on my level OP
>>67716567
you can offset income difference with food stamps.
>>67716567
Vote to the right when possible, vote for small government, vote for austerity. This will take a long time to work but for the sake of the West it is necessary.
>>67719984
He isn't wrong.
>>67727381
Dunno yet. I'm thinking law. Maybe engineering. Most likely law.
>>67716923
>So is all my money just going basically down the drain?
Both my parents work in government and you wouldn't believe how much money is used for literally nothing.
>>67728247
Nah my boy. Did you miss the part where my dad is paying half? It's our dragstrip car. So he's paying half, and im paying half. It's about $300 for each of us.
>>67716567
Those taxes pay for society. For civilization. The society that provides you the safety and luxury that you're using to spout dumbass opinions on the internet.
>>67716923
>So is all my money just going basically down the drain?
The majority of taxes go to service interest and pay government worker salaries (Talking about 90+%).
There's very little money left over for things that will actually help the public. You ask why our infrastructure is failing? Because the government literally doesn't have the money to repair garbage roads. They have to pay bloated government salaries, benefits and pensions and hardly have anything left over.
>>67729270
They don't have the money because the GOP refuses to raise taxes.
>>67719984
It's the exact same as "wtf why do we have all these nuclear warheads if we never use them." It doesn't matter what they're doing, or whether they're doing useless shit. It's the existence that matters. If we slashed our military budget, the world would destabalize.
>>67729080
Yes, it's proportionally more dimwit. Cars are not investments, they will depreciate to half the cost within years, all that money wasted. That's why I'm calling you an idiot because you have no planning skills.
>>67716567
i got 1700 usd in two weeks working at minimum wage. and get to claim all my tax back
>>67721527
LITERALLY
>>67729356
How about we just fire most government workers and reduce the pay for the remaining?
>>67726896
depending on the mcjob you can get as little as like 15 hours a week (or less if you actually want to not work a lot), getting paid every two weeks
>>67726720
Wow, sorry man. I hope one day I have that long view. Story time.
> Be me, 18 or 20 or something.
> Working at Radio Shack (I'm 45 so this was ages ago)
> New middle age woman gets hired.
> Smells funny (diabetic sweet or something), skin kind of falling off everywhere, constant shell shocked look.
> I'm a friendly spaz so she warms up to me.
> Tells me her story.
> She was married, had a kid, happy.
> Kid dies.
> She and hubby go to Florida to get away from sadtimes.exe
> Husband drowns in ocean.
> All alone now.
> I'm no longer a happy spaz around her.
> She thinks I'm so special though.
WTF man.
>>67729080
>half the payment
>$300
that covers the low ass down payment but what about the other $41,000?
>>67729207
>Those taxes pay for society. For civilization.
or for violent dindus
pick one
>>67716567
You'll get most of it back next april.
>mfw i don't care about taxes or the hours i work
>mfw they take away 30% from my paycheck
how cucked am i boys
>>67716567
Don't worry you'll get more mad once you realize you work 30 to 4o hours a week only to get money you can only get about 2 hours of acually satisfaction from, so yo spend over 20 hours working hard with little to no fun to get about 1 to 3 hours of fun.
>>67729885
Either that or raise revenue. But as far as I know neither are being done.
>>67729985
>diabetic sweet
what the fuck is this shit
>>67716567
>what is slavery
we all work for the system, but at least real slaves are taken care, of, we have to slave away and take care of ourselves, so we can slave away
>>67730480
I think "sweat" was spelled incorrectly
>>67717926
>load/unload pinestraw
>drive from house to house delivering straw
>cut/flare/thread/sweat pipe for dumbasses
>forced to help professional plumbers/electricians on how to do their jobs
>drive forklift all the time (did i mention it doesn't even have functioning tires and unbalanced forks?)
>sharpen blades
>locksmith
>licensed to fill propane
>2 years later, still barely above minimal
>boss promises me a raise
>20 cent raise
>am now $7.90
>$7.90 for all this shit
>people with no skills get paid $12/hr at walmart, mcdonalds or chickfila
I want to murder my boss. He is such a filthy fucking jew.
>>67730480
I take it you've only been around people in a harmonious biological state. When the body fucks up, it can produce a wide array of odors as stuff is eliminated via the skin.
For thousands of years humans have been able to detect sick humans via smell, just to survive.
You know how you can detect the scent of a rotting animal from very fricking far away? It's like that.
>>67723794
>GO TO COLLEGE
Yeah, because racking up an $80,000 debt for a useless piece of paper is a great idea. Still won't get you a job, trust me. My wife has a bachelor of science in electrical engineering, counts for shit, all that matters is prior work experience, which of course you won't get because you don't already have any.
It's a catch-22. Took my wife well over a year to land a gig, but once she did, she was being head-hunted by virtually every other company in the field. Of course she only got the gig because she has an impressive resume of prior experience.
They all just want to hire their competitors' employees, NO ONE is interested in hiring you if you're unemployed and don't have experience, because they can pay an immigrant less instead.
>hurr durr learn a trade
Can't even get into that. I'm 30, still get told I'm too old to be anyone's apprentice.
Shit's fucked.
>>67729651
>>67730059
You sluts.
We already have the car. The first payment is in a week. My half is $317my dad's half is $318. We already have it all sorted out.
Everything is already in order. You guys are just jealous.
>>67730967
Sounds like you are running his business for him. I would tell him to Fuck off
>>67724429
>injured back at age 19
Let's suffer together.
>>67730617
nope, sweet like sugar, not sweat like perspiration. Stop making me think about it.
>>67716567
>$244
>-$65.55 in taxes
How the fuck are you paying 27% in taxes from your fast food job? That doesn't even make any fucking sense. I'm gonna have to call bullshit OP.
>>67716567
Enjoy the shitty job, it makes you appreciate the good ones better and makes you more driven to succeed because you won't want to go back to a shitty job.
Everyone should have to work a crap food service or retail job at least once in their lives.
>>67731150
A degree is a *minimum* to get your foot in the door though. Thank the state licensing system. Take a bunch of mostly useless class to get your piece of paper because everyone else did, so now it's a minimum requirement. Also what is this idea with making every bachelors degree 4 years? For a lot of degrees they fill in 1-2 years with useless classes so they can waste your time by meeting the unit requirement.
>>67731269
I don't like it when other people make me rethink my decisions either, just telling you some facts so you can prepare yourself.
>>67731270
I practically am. I can't do some things my manager can do, like order parts we need to buy or paint mixing. But shit, those look super easy to do.
I also forgot to mention, I haven't seen my boss in 7 months. So he never sees what I do and just takes my manager's word. The manager who is a 85 year old that can't remember jack shit. There's no excuse for this bullshit.
>>67731269
But why are you buying an expensive car when you are 18 and not rich?
>>67731491
Fucking dumbass! 35%! WTF do you think we have been bitching about?
>>67731491
Federal and State taxes add up
>>67731780
Because I can make my half of the payment. And still have enough money for whatever else. I'm going to college from home, and have college expenses payed for since my grandfather was rich. I make around 1k a month, and if $315 goes towards the car, and $500 a month goes into savings, then I don't really think that's so bad for an 18 year old.
>>67716567
>be 17
>get job at jewel
>get taxed like you
> also get union dues removed from my paychecks even though I'm not allowed to receive any benefits from union
> work with literal retards and circus show freaks
> realize I'm paying for these shits union benes
>quit in less than 2 months
>>67717926
>not knowing how tax brackets work
Say you make $38k a year. This first $9,275 is taxed at 10%, the next $28,375 is taxed at 15%, then the last $349 is taxed at 25%.
>>67731654
I am prepared. Besides if anything goes wrong, my father will bail me out. He's a millionaire. This whole thing is supposed to teach me about how car payments work. Plus I'll have a cool car.
I'm not gonna question his methods. Even though he could've just outright bought the car, and had me pay him back over time. But whatever.
What shitty state do you live in?
>>67732195
Jewel Smokeless?
>>67716567
Welcome to the Republican party. Population: tax payers (about 50%).
And it's only getting worse and worse. As we continue to hand people welfare just for existing many of them pop out as many children as possible on your dine. While you and other tax payers are responsible and can only have a few kids max. Welcome to democracy. The lazy 50.0001% can control and vote themselves money until the entire system collapses.
>>67732326
Probably bait. Either way, I wish my dad was rich.
>>67729885
>>67730469
>tfw i have a government job
hey fuck you guys
>>67729207
Yeah, I bet the American people feel real happy knowing their American government spent trillions to invade the Middle East for their protection. I wager they feel real safe now.
>>67732392
grocery store
>>67719466
>>only McDonalds calls back
>>fail the interview
How? Literally how is this possible?
>>67728516
I guess it depends on what you consider tons of money but community colleges should have welding courses.
>>67732251
Is that all you guys have to deal with? God damn I'd love to be in the states right now (but then again, no trump - no deal). Escaping 50%++ taxes would be great!
>>67716567
>Get hired for a job yesterday
>Learned that its on a 1099
>Start reading all this shit about a 1099, everyone says to avoid it
>job hours description is illegal under 1099 rules
>Would have to pay my taxes and make sure that I track EVERYTHING
I'm fucking nervous as fuck now.
Should I take the job or not? I could use some cash in my pocket but I don't think that its worth the trouble if I am at risk of getting arrested or something. The job isn't even in my field of study so I don't know if I would stay for a month or less.
>>67716567
I know this feel mi amigo.
This is why we need Trump.
>>67716567
Nigger you're working 20 hours a week for minimum wage.
>>67731844
I think you've just been making up bullshit, because the tax rate isn't 35% for burger flippers you retard.
>>67732043
They add up to 27%? What fucking state is that? Norway?
>>67732485
Not bait. My dad has a real boner for teaching me money things like this through real experience.
Ahh, to be young again. It only gets worse from here on out. Good luck and if you want some fun lookup social security tax caps
>>67716567
Cry me a river. I paid over $25k in taxes last year.
>>67716567
Wait until the end of the year when you have to pay several hundred to over a thousand dollars in taxes for your income level.
On top of the taxes taken out of your check, after gas, depreciation, cell phone, internet, rent, medical, and soap/shampoo, and other household wares that are routinely replaced including laundry and what not, you end up approximately.....poor and in debt.
Welcome to the land of opportunity, I wonder why so many are criminals.
>>67731270
>>67730967
I hate to bitch but I'm never able to nowadays. Plus I got a few minutes to burn. Here's some photos of this piece of shit forklift.
>>67732993
Effing bullshit. Where do you live and how much do you make?
>>67733299
"Some" as in two photos.
>>67716923
The dude is right though, the military should be expected to make back at least some money for taxpayers - taking moar land and oil, confiscating foreign factories, ships, cargo etc. We should all be getting an oil check every year like Alaska, fuck.
>>67732195
The only reason I'm staying at my job is because it gives me job experience and it makes my parents proud. That and I have no idea what to do if I don't have it.
>>67716828
>You have attained the American Dream.
Kek
>>67732711
What are you doing?
>>67733214
Why are you and OP just making up bullshit?
The fed tax rate for a burger flipper is the lowest income bracket aka 10%.
>>67730967
I got a warehouse job for you out in the Bay Area paying $14/h with full bennies and other good shit. I would hire a qualified /pol/ack in a heart beat
>>67733346
Well, you see, I live in California. I didn't even make much. No where near six figure salary range.
>>67716567
>>67733299
>>67733375
Those piece of junk makes the ones from my warehouse look fucking new.
You poor bastard.
>>67733683
>>67716923
Military Industrial Complex defense contractor here. The DOD buys a bunch of shit it does not need and the soldiers do not want but congress mandates the spice must flow. On top of that the government employees in charge of procurement have their heads so far up their ass you have to give 8 presentations in the same concept before they get a clue. A project that should take 8 months gets stretched out over 3 years.
So yeah thanks for your tax money, I'm going to deduct my mortgage interest and buy an electric car with that sweet $7500 tax credit. Then I'm going to order a green chile double at your drive through cuz it's really tasty.
>>67733676
I would, but I'm going to college for a teaching degree. It's something I always wanted to do. I got enough savings to help me out, too. I know /pol/ doesn't like the whole college idea, but oh well. Thank you for the offer, though. Also we're ~1,400 miles away.
>>67733760
That's what everyone says.
Oh, I also forgot. He makes us make up our holidays, which is super weird. I.E: I'm off July 4th, but I have to make it up on the day I'm regularly off, which is Tuesday (we're closed sundays). Is that legal at all?
>>67729885
because firing most government workers would be devastating to our economy.
jesus cucking christ can you think for about 2 seconds before you speak, or at least take an economics class?
>>67716567
Most of that shit goes to Social Security. If you're angry, go kill your grandparents. Then go pay your state back taxes for that free public education, while you're at it you can pay the federal government for keeping your water and air clean. Don't forget to tip the police for being alive cause you know you weren't murdered.
>>67733962
Shit.
How the Hell do you land a sweet gig like that?
>be me
>earned $12k last year
>get several tax credits for 401k and IRA contributions
>$900 refund
>fuck yeah
>have catastrophic insurance
>no health insurance though
>hmmm.gif
>use cash instead
>much cheaper than using insurance
>$350 fine on my federal tax return for not having health insurance
>would cost me more in paycheck deductions for insurance than to pay fine
>regressive fucking tax
>mfw
>>67716923
Dude you figured it out
>>67734058
>statists are this cucked
Also, Social Security is a literal ponzi scheme and our generation is FUCKED if we don't abolish it.
>>67733683
>I live in Cali
>I paid 25k in tax
>but I make no where near 6 figures
Bullshit. Your numbers don't add up son.
Here are the FED tax rates:
0 to $9,225 - 10%
$9,226 to $37,450 - $922.50 plus 15% of the amount over $9,225
$37,451 to $90,750 - $5,156.25 plus 25% of the amount over $37,450
$90,751 to $189,300 - $18,481.25 plus 28% of the amount over $90,750
$189,301 to $411,500 - $46,075.25 plus 33% of the amount over $189,300
$411,501 to $413,200 - $119,401.25 plus 35% of the amount over $411,500
$413,201 or more - $119,996.25 plus 39.6% of the amount over $413,200
Here are the Cali state taxes:
1% on the first $7,850 of taxable income.
2% on taxable income between $7,851 and $18,610.
4% on taxable income between $18,611 and $29,372.
6% on taxable income between $29,373 and $40,773.
8% on taxable income between $40,774 and $51,530.
9.3% on taxable income between $51,531 and $263,222.
10.3% on taxable income between $263,223 and 315,866.
11.3% on taxable income between $315,867 and $526,443.
12.3% on taxable income of $526,444 and above.
>>67733993
Warehouse?
No. I had to make up hours for Christmas that I wanted to use to go skiing with a friend.
It fucking sucks but the world doesn't stop for the holidays, ya dig?
>>67734146
Engineering my green chile double nigga
>>67734287
No, just a hardware store downtown.
>No. I had to make up hours for Christmas that I wanted to use to go skiing with a friend.
Ah, I thought I was alone on this. None of my friends or family members can relate to it. It's the first time they've ever heard of it. Oh, well.
Income tax was the most retarded thing to have ever been invented. The government is taking pay from my work. They didn't do anything but they feel entitled that money. They can go fuck themselves.
I understand they need money but they can just get from tarrifs, sales taxes and property taxes. They really don't need all this money.
>>67733993
>I would, but I'm going to college for a teaching degree.
Thanks for doing your part to Make America Great Again!
>>67716567
are you bitch nigger complaining about $65 taxes?
wow
i pay that almost per day
Once you make REAL money you pay REAL taxes
I probably paid a high 5 figure maybe even 6 in taxes over the course of my life.
It all went to gibsmedats and rapefugees nowadays.
>>67734211
More like i appreciate the services my taxes provide me and my community instead of being a selfish asshole who can't get their head out of their ass long enough to think.
Yes, SS is a ponzi scheme and its gonna have to be reformed. You politically active enough to do something about it instead of whining?
>>67717081
>I'm pretty sure if I were on welfare right now I'd be making more money than I would be if I were working.
this is the problem
>>67734525
Is that sarcasm? I'm too sleepy to tell. Either way, you're welcome.
>>67734476
Kill yourself faggot.
>>67733549
I barely know myself.
It supposed to be some ecommerce job like listing stuff on ebay. I've been looking for an IT job so I don't know how long I would even stay at this company.
>>67734527
>rapefugees
Loving this album right now. It may be of use to you Germanbro.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg2DcasF2Y4
>>67722453
and i hear north koreas roads are out of this world
>>67734736
Research it dipshit.
Fucking know what you're doing before you start doing it.
>>67734746
>>67722453
Neither does Hong Kong or Singapore
>>67734685
No, I'm being sincere. The best employees are always looking for better opportunity. Got several gays taking classes at night now and have told me they plan to move on when they get their degrees and of course they are the best employees. What are you studying?
>>67734860
People like OP make me laugh. Whine about 66 dollars then demand we vote for Bernie so those of who aren't burger flippers can lose tens of thousands.
Self righteous hypocrites.
>>67734841
I don't even know the company name there is nothing to research.
>>67734626
>i appreciate the services my taxes provide me and my community instead of being a selfish asshole
Haha, can you be any more cucked than literally enjoying handing your money away to nigger welfare?
>>67734923
Sign language. My parents are originally deaf and it was my first language I ever learned. So I'm putting that skill to use.
>>67716923
>Military it's such a waste of money... we are not at war right now!
>>67735038
To be fair it's his first job. He'll learn.
>>67717106
>The military's existence is what keeps us safe
get a load of this goy
GET A COMPOUND INTEREST SAVINGS ACCOUNT, TUCK AWAY $25 EVERY CHECK
DO THIS FOR YEARS THEN SIT ON INTEREST BUILD ON INTEREST
>>67734841
>>67735079
There isn't even a phone number to call.
I will be passing by there tomorrow but I don't think that I want to do this.
