Take a look at this chart.
Now, here is what it means. Since 2009, the US central bank has been creating dollars out of thin air to prop up the banking system ("printing money" but not really, they pop into digital existence, but it's the same thing).
That money is trapped inside the FED system, but it leaks out to the member banks in the form of interest paid against it to the banks directly, and in the form of capital gains on bonds cycled through the banks in open market operations (sales of government bonds to banks).
Those lifelines created a psychological feeling of safety. That feeling has lasted for 7 years - long enough to create the sense that everything will keep going up forever.
When that happens, investors in stocks start to borrow to buy more shares. That's called "margin." So if I have $100,000 in cash, and a margin account, I can buy or sell up to $150,000 worth, and depending on my history and brokerage rules, maybe even $200,000 or more.
So I buy $200,000 of shares with $100,000 in cash and $100,000 in margin. Everything is fine. Even if it goes down to $100,001, everything is still fine.
But what if the value of the shares drops to $99,999?
There are two phone calls in the world that are as bad as a margin call - the one where the governor refuses to commute your death penalty, and the one saying you lost the divorce.
That's what the chart shows - margin debt against real stock gains. Looks familiar, right?
This is a FED-induced bubble and China popped it. But, so what if I get my margin call, and I can't pony up the extra dollar?
The brokerage seizes my shares and force-sells them without me.
That's how this down leg can get out of control. When the margin calls start coming in, the selling gets forced and it's not about the economy or the companies anymore. That's what happened in 2000 and 2008, in the stock market.
It might be happening now.
There are a bunch of companies in the S&P 500 that have zero exposure to China. So those stocks should not be following the broad market right? They should be doing better, because ex-China (excluded).
So why are KR, THC, and PNRA following everything else down? Because the selling is forced, or irrational, or both.
When those companies, and others like them who do zero business in China start to separate and out-perform the broad market, that will be the signal that the smart money is getting back in.
zzzzzzzzzzz
not happening, go away
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU RAISE RATES
NEGATIVE INTEREST RATES 2016
>>61085217
Your seashell based economy is probably safe but this thread is for discussion of the civilized world
>>61084335
Bump its over
>>61085321
what the matter burger? have some poo poo in your pants?
cunt
>>61085375
literally where
>>61085375
t. Alberto Barbosa
How low is oil expected to go?
>>61085375
uh....huh.
>>61085375
shut up portugal.
>>61085589
Probably around 27-28 dollars. Shits bad, very bad. Dollar is backed by oil, oil loses value, so does the dollar, and when the dollar loses value, shit goes into turmoil.
>>61085481
it's already very good that you can tell where mexico and canada are, more isnt expected from you
>>61085375
Your shitposting sucks nigger
>>61085709
>>61085589
Willing to bet £20 that it'll go down to $15 per barrel.
:^)
First for student loan bubble.
>>61085771
>Dow 30 -421.03 -2.57%
HAHAHAHA
>>61085728
Your trying to be australia/canada.
Go fuck a bull or whatever Portuguese people do
>>61085771
is this your petrol sniffing break?
>>61085869
ishallah brother
>>61085800
Can I get an option on that?
Will the S&P stay down today? I'm invested in uvxy and it goes up when the S&P goes down.
Cmon /pol/ I have like 300 invested in it
>>61085987
It's 4:10 in the morning dickhead
>>61085800
>▶
Hmm, yeah i'd be willing
>>61086028
With my minimal experience I'd say it's very likely.
>>61085817
never
the only escape is death, and then your cosigner is fucked
>>61085375
>>61086028
source
>>61086052
didnt know you also did it till late hours, on a binge eh cunt?
>>61085987
>tfw I live in Northern Ireland
>tfw 98 percent white
>tfw fag marriage banned
>tfw you're a cuck
>tfw only 4000 muslims in a population of 1.7 million
>>61086028
>2016
>investing in the scam market
>>61084335
>printing money" but not really, they pop into digital existence, but it's the same thing
For fuck's sake.
>pirate jewish-produced flick
MUH INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY, GOYIM
>jews pirate currency
*sounds of kosher crickets chirping*
>>61086188
>IM WHITE I SWEAR I LIVE IN RURAL AREA 100% ARYAN LOOK MY FLAG I ALSO HATE FAGS LOL
stay muhammad shitskin
if rates go negative will it be bad? It sounds like something that would help the economy but could it stump the happening?
>>61086328
The Portuguese monkey trying to de rail thread
>>61086127
What do you base that on?
>>61086171
I wish I knew. Liscence plate says California so something there...
>>61086211
Shut the fuck up if you don't know what you're talking about.
>>61086335
it means banks charge you for putting your money in them
>>61086335
The lower it is the worse it will get that's all you need to know
>>61086328
>Northern Ireland
Keep crying
>>61086328
Tone it down m8 there are like 99 other threads you can shitpost in let me be comfy in this one Alberto
What I don't understand is why would they allow the market and economy to downtick?
>all the illiterate retards in this thread
lLmao
>>61086595
Everyone has to start somewhere, anon.
>>61086534
BANKRUN
A
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K
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U
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NOW
O
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>>61084335
OP, in light of the shit replies, I wanted to let you know that I read your post and comprehended the information you presented. I learned something new, thanks.
>>61086566
what do you mean downtick you fucking chink?
everybody wants to get the fuck out before only the bag is left
>>61086506
>Shut the fuck up if you don't know what you're talking about.
Well I saved 10k dollars by selling because of /pol/ memes, so I think I did alright despite not knowing what I'm talking about.
>>61086566
So the fed will print free money again. Intrest rates are killing the market, anon.
>basicly jews
Did the social structures collapse yet?
Are there tonks on the streets?
Somebody answer me I dont intend to get off my ass for the next couple of hours
>>61086595
they're watching Fox Business Network from the debate last night and just see the "Market Alert" report.
>>61086774
Well if did know what you were talking about, you would see that with UVXY I'm investing in the volatility of the market, and not the market proper.
I understand that the market is shady and unreliable, so its a great opportunity for me to make a tight sum.
>>61085990
You can have my word, give me your paypal details and I'll give you mine.
But I know oil will drop even lower and faster than ur mums knickers when she's ready for a ploughing!
:^)
>>61086121
You know it's going to happen, all the while we are bailing out Scotland's oil industry, I have no idea how much longer we can keep up with it, the North Sea oil industry is operating and has been operating at a loss for quite a while now.
>mfw SNP retards still say their oil contributes the most to the UK
LOL!!!!! Fucking retards need stabbing for such stupidity.
>>61086779
Thanks for the wallpaper.
>>61084335
THREAD THEME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx06XNfDvk0
>>61084965
You're looking at the economic network as if one chain link is enough to separate. They may not do business with China, but maybe they do business with companies who do.
>>61087094
oh I get it, after rereading your post
GOOD JOB :^)
>>61086171
some liberal hippy cunt. they're a dime a dozen here in montreal. go nuts
BELLOW 15900 HOLY SHIT.
>>61086674
thanks
>>61086171
Some social justice cunt with a leg beard and a bush the size of prairie grass.
>>61084335
Oil getting destroyed, down over 5% for yet another time this year
Brent at $29.33!
http://www.investing.com/commodities/real-time-futures
Oil in freefall the past 10 mintues
JUST
U
S
T
> Dow 30
>-482.77 -2.95%
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
Nasdaq on suicide watch!
>>61087497
This is making me feel worse and worse about being an unemployed engineer graduate. Nobody fucking wants me and after this all ends I'll never be able to start my career.
I feel fucked.
We -3.00 now
>>61084335
cam someone give me the tl:dr version?
>>61087662
How old are you?
>>61087672
tl;dr we are collapsing as we speak
>>61087619
>mfw this keeps happening every week
>mfw we go into worst depression in U.S. history
sheit
BREAKING: SP500 bellow August low
OIL broke 30$
>>61086028
I'd guess yes, considering this looks like the start of another correction. Nobody on /pol/ is over the age of consent, though, so take everything with a grain of salt.
>>61087732
We were .21 of a point from (500) on the DOW btw lads
What a time to be alive
>>61087732
should i order 300k of gold from apmex right now?
i bought $UVXY when it was at 31
>>61087662
you'll be in nuclear hell fire before any of that begins.
CNBC Money is freaking the fuck out. Have a giant Breaking News stock dump sign up on the air. Market is crashing, absolutely dumping in a near downfall.
WTF is going on? This looks terrible. There is this horrible sounding fear in their voices. Like this urgency to get off the air as fast as possible and go to their portfolio.
Crude just blew down below 30 a barrel? Where will it stop at?
Guys I am really scared.
WTF?
ayyy lmao
>>61087174
That does not invalidate the hypothesis. Which worked in August by the way.
If Kroger can't get Chinese flashlights and $4 skillets for its hardware aisle, that has rounding-error level effects for its business.
Panera can get China-made chinaware anywhere. There is no shortage of plates and soup bowls.
Consolidated Edison gives exactly zero fucks about China, as does Tenet Healthcare. The only reason for these stocks to be trading with the market is dis-organized selling.
>>61087754
r-ron paul has a solution, r-right?
>>61084335
Just wait until 3PM guys, that's when hedge funds have to sell to balance their ledgers. It might even go lower!
Or rally because hedge funds can start buying. I haven't looked the buy/sell numbers but I doubt anyone is buying now
>>61086028
>300
300 what? thousand?
>>61087662
Lets go over to mideast and build doomsday cannons or rocket batteries
>>61087619
shhhh it will all be over soon
>>61087801
>it's not happening
>>61087861
300 rare pepes, he's going to bottom out
>>61087672
Stocks will over-shoot to the downside due to forced selling.
DAE yelling timber?
>>61087849
we must take the pain which is the medicine,
and we didn't do that in 08'
the solution is'>pic related
>mfw SNP said oil would NEVER drop below $120 per barrel
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I am dying here, someone please if you find my sides, return them to Buckingham Palace.
Cheers!
>>61084335
Brent is about to hit $28.xx
http://www.investing.com/commodities/brent-oil
ITS HAPPENING
>>61087923
fuck i hope we dont have hyper pepe inflation
please don't print any rare pepes
>>61085375
Stay mad
>>61087953
>muh gold standard
No it isn't the solution, the solution is war, another world war and it's inevitable now.
:^) Rev up those bug out bags, rev up those autism buxx you gon get conscripted bitch.
we -500 dow30 now
>>61087991
GO LOWER LOWER LOWER LOWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YES YES YES!
>>61084335
-500
YES
>>61087861
Dollars nigga. I basically just started investing.
>>61087796
It seems like its gonna keep doing down. Maybe keep holding uvxy or double down.
>>61087764
What if the Jew intervenes?
>>61084335
Ok I'll bite. What does China have to do with this perceived "margin call cycle"
Am noob plaz halp
We've had worse single days before. What makes this worse? How bad will it get?
>three percent in a day is a crash
this again huh
>>61087853
Out of the noodle bowl, into the deep fryer.
>>61088074
ITS IN FREEFALL
$28.86
After other crashes there was a measure of optimism. I don't see that here. Where is the recovery going to come from?
>>61087801
The three guys in the pic are trying to contact the conducter.
Dubs means we drop 600
>>61084335
It's simple:
>Wall street runs Washington
>Jews run wall street
>Federal Reserve runs free money
>Jews run Federal Reserve
>Banks run margin debt
>Jews run Banks
Therefore, Wall street knows that buying stock futures on margin is a sure thing, since Washington will launder every single economic statistic to support the bullish position and the Fed will print money for the 1% to buy stocks with.
>>61088092
Global economy is like a watch. China is rusty gear that is seizing and rusting other gears.
>>61085375
Fuck off Italy
I'm gonna go burn a brush pile while it starts raining what should I chant or throw in fire to invoke happening?
Doesn't Iran oil embargo end this weekend?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/13/the-lifting-of-iranian-sanctions-what-happens-next
That means oil will go even lower.
U mad oilfags? Yeh u mad!
>>61088084
if you had invest 300k at 31
you would've been a millionaire nigga
>>61088172
We are the recovery. Baby boomers and old Jews will lose money but the young will simply have a new bottom to climb up out of.
>>61085800
I'll raise you a tenner it goes down to $10 per barrel before this is over
>>61085375
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
>>61084335
This is big fucking news
>Wal-Mart pulls plug on smallest store format, shuts 269 stores
>Wal-Mart Stores Inc said on Friday that it was pulling the plug on its smallest store format, Walmart Express, and closing 269 locations globally, including 154 in the United States, in a restructuring that will affect 16,000 workers.
>Wal-Mart, the world's largest retailer, said the move would reduce diluted earnings per share by 20 cents to 22 cents, with nearly all of that to be booked in the fourth quarter ending this month. In November, the company forecast a full-year profit of $4.50 to $4.65 per share.
>Shares of Wal-Mart, which said the store closures represented less than 1 percent of its global square footage and revenue, fell 2.4 percent to $61.57.
Woke up to FOX talking about this. I heard 200 closed and 139 in the US. But 269 closing and 150+ in the US with 10,000 employees is fucking huge, especially as it's Walmart
This comes months after this report
>Walmart: Wage hikes are killing our profits
https://archive.is/uU6yK
They increased wages to $9/hour just this year and outlook is down until 2017. Wages are supposed to go up to $10/hour in February
>>61087710
Hell at 26, you still have lots of time. I'm too old and my best years were shit on by this economy. You're coming of age right on time for the correction. Whereas I couldn't find a job, homes were too expensive, women were feminist bitches, you're coming of age where you will own the world. All of this shit is being corrected in the next few years and you will be better for it. Just keep your head up high. Work for free as an intern (i know it sucks), pay your dues, you will be ok. Work harder than your peers, there's always someone willing to do what you wont do. Keep pushing and pushing, to do nothing leaves you open to the fate of your environment. You choose your fate. Don't get too comfy right now, I know times are hard.
>>61088150
oil is off 6.44% on the day and falling bruv
>>61088170
It's gon go lower baby!
GON GO LOWER LOWER LOWER!!!!
>>61088283
>>61088283
>>61088224
So their margin is like 10x the cash they have or something? I thought the size of their stock market is bloated and too many goldjew snacks interns invested into it
>>61088172
That is because this is the real crash,
a currency crisis that is literally going to destroy the dollar
this one will definitely be worse than the great depression after they kicked the can down the road
"Anyone claiming that America's economy is in decline is peddling fiction"
Damn, who said that?
>>61088283
yep Iran gonna pump 500 million barrels into the game starting next week
IMPORATANT IMFORMATION FOR THE STOCK MARKET KNOW NOW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdhNkv4ryuM
>>61088490
This is already fucking over the Canadian dollar isn't it?
>>61088362
What if I agree with you?
>>61084965
Implying China is the only problem
Europe is gonna get fucked too for several reasons.
The resurrection of border controls alone will wreck profit margins for a lot of countries and that's just one of the many financial and political risk factors at play over there
>>61084965
This whole analysis is based on China's drop causing the US drop, which you believe because that's what they say on cable TV.
The US economy is fundamentally weak - it would have sold off eventually anyway.
Jewish physics
>>61088565
Do you think the powers that be will actually allow them to do that by postponing the end of the embargo or what?
Turbulent times ahead baby!
>>61088092
Directly, nothing. China was the trigger for the initial down leg when on Jan4th the central government relaxed selling restrictions there and Shanghai dropped like a rock. US investors, who understand that many stocks are exposed heavily to China took the signal that Chinese confidence was going to crash, and they started selling US stocks indiscriminately.
Where it gets out of control is with margin debt. Think of it as a measure of weakness, or fragility. A heavy ceramic coffee cup (low margin) can survive a fall from table height. A thin wine glass (high margin) will break if you tip it over /on/ the table.
Whats the thread theme now?
Is it legitimately happening?
>>61088613
>This is already fucking over the Canadian dollar isn't it?
I have no idea, but when the fed starts to print out pepes to save the economy,
the value of rare pepes is going to get crushed
>>61088100
Those single days rebound though
Since December 16th, it's fallen nearly 2,000 points, about 10%
Iran is going to flood markets with their oil any day now, China isn't reporting any news, so who knows what is with them; US retail spending fell to 0.1%, oil keeps falling, oil companies keep closing, etc
>>61088669
"Its the EU"
"Its china"
"Its oil"
Tens of thousands of super computers making instantaneous trades.
No more human element, just super computers making massive trades in 1/100th of a second.
It is all over, it is all over...
This is the outcome of super computers making massive trades in fractions of fractions of seconds.
WTF did you think was going to happen, the element of human traders competing with super computers packed with millions of trading algorithms would last?
This is the final chess move. The average Joe on his day trader cell phone software has just been put into check mate.
Sell all you can right now. Get out right now. buy guns, ammo and try and survive after the super computers have crashed the entire shit show.
What the fuck happened to their posts?
>>61088463
Yes that's accurate. China is overvalued and had a lot of value based of growth. But they're not growing as projected, likely fudged their records a bit, and are slowing manufacturing.
>>61088703
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hZXxrzsQOA
>>61088092
If desired, all China had to do was cause instability in the market place greater than the US government could control. In China, a great part of there markets are under direct government control. China has propped up their markets just as the Fed has propped up our banks etc. When China started changing it's market control rules, it might be the straw that broke both camels backs.
>> just my 2 cents.
>>61088728
Canadian dollar is pegged to the value of oil iirc.
Just like Russian rouble...
Poor Canada and Russia ;_; literally lel.
>>61086479
hey guys go easy on Portugal. They were relevant once
>>61088281
"Go to Yellen, wait."
"Go to Yellen, wait."
"Go to Yellen, wait."
"Go to Yellen, wait."
How many of you lived through the 2008 Crash and Great Recession?
I really dunno how I'd handle that again. I had plans to join a job training program later in the year. I dunno. But I learned a lot from those years. I'm a lot more frugal. But if it's worse than 2008, I just dunno.
>>61088703
Whistle Low
Nothing will happen. They don't want Trump to win.
>>61088613
>This is already fucking over the Canadian dollar isn't it?
It was $0.70 CAD to $1 USD
It fell to $0.69 yesterday
Reports saying $0.59 soon
>>61088281
"listen to third eagle's tune"
>>61088705
Nah. It ain't happening until the Fat Man sings.
Here's a good HAPPENING theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj-CGyG7N8E
It's finally fucking happening.
>>61084335
I have no stocks and am 100% liquid
what do I care?
>>61088702
There's a lot of bribery there right? Do chinks factor that or do they just can't even stock market? Maybe their is too much fake credit in the Shanghai index
VIX +22.38% 17:28:36
It's over.
>>61088613
Then you're a smart man. I have feeling this year might bring the "black spring" or summer, depending how much they can delay the inevitable. Oil will hit $10 within the month, it will all come tumbling down.
A visiting tourist drives through a really small town, stops at a small motel, and lays a $100 bill on the desk saying he wants to inspect the rooms upstairs to pick one for the night.
As soon as he walks upstairs, the motel owner grabs the $100 bill and runs next door and gives the $100 to the butcher to pay his debt.
Now that the butcher has been paid he takes the $100 and runs down the street to pay the $100 to the rancher who supplies his meat.
The rancher takes the $100 and heads off to pay his head cowhand who he owes $100 to.
The cowhand owes his sister money and so takes the $100 and runs to pay his debt to his sister who is staying at the motel.
His sister takes the money and rushes to the motel and pays the motel owner who she owned $100 to.
The motel owner then places the $100 back on the counter so the tourist will not suspect anything.
At that moment the tourist comes down the stairs, states that the rooms are not satisfactory, picks up the $100 bill and leaves.
The motel owner got $100 from the sister, the butcher got $100 from the motel owner, the rancher got $100 from the butcher, the cowhand got $100 from the rancher, and the sister of the cowhand got $100 from the cowhand. $500 was collected and paid out and everyone was paid and is happy.
No one produced anything. No one earned anything. However, the whole town is now out of debt and looks to the future with a lot more optimism.
This debt is different, the money isn't real, it cannot be solved.
>>61088613
It sure is.1CND = .69 USD
At one point it was on par or even superior to the American dollar. You should see the price of food here now. It's a disgrace.
>>61088283
Yis fucking Saudis will suffer
>>61088962
I want it all to end.
>>61088962
I really wouldn't mind that being the last thing I see before I die. It's so beautiful and bright.
>>61088947
It'll drop even lower if the Iran embargo shit goes ahead.
>>61088650
I was not attempting a global macro analysis, just an explanation for the down leg that started on Jan 4th, and will continue, at a minimum, until margin debt in the US returns to 100%, or less.
Yes, Yerp is fucked in more ways than the rape caves. But US equities can take a lot of bad news under the right internal conditions. These aint them, so bad news will be bad for a while.
Could be 1650-1500. Could go to 748.
>>61087662
I graduated with a degree in philosophy and German in 2008. Now I'm an attorney. Careers are long. Don't be a bitch.
>>61088833
They should have diversified and not relied on oil, especially with Muslims holding majority of oil
>>61088787
>/on/
its ON BABY!
>>61088417
Not the anon you were talking to, but thanks for the pep talk senpai.
It's easy to get discouraged and say "fuck it", and it feels as though the world is against us, but the value of hardwork and a positive attitude can't be more valuable in a generation that honestly feels lost.
>>61088669
I watch three screens, and none of them have cable tv playing.
>>61088793
Ok I get it now. They're slowing because of a stuttering global market. Had to dust off the old macro econ 101 book.
So much for chinks owning the world by 2020?
>>61088854
Was going to college and graduated in 2009
No fucking jobs
Market swung +50 in last ten minutes.
>>61089058
At this point it's going to be economical to grow a lot of that produce in greenhouses.
It will reduce the price and keep capital in Canada.
A low dollar isn't always a bad thing when it comes to employment and rhe velocity of money.
We extremely scared now
>>61089204
We've been telling the Scots this for years but they won't fucking listen..
Oil is easy and fast cash which is all people are concerned about, a quick buck. No foresight, no planning, no contingency when things go tits up.
>>61089097
They can afford to suffer though, it's why they're doing this, they have so much fucking oil they could saturate the markets for a couple of years and still have enough cash to pay male prostitutes millions of Riyals.
>>61089040
Good story there and an important lesson taken from it.
You're smart.
>>61089239
can you share your setup or just describe it
>>61089040
Cute story, I like it
>>61089142
Your explanation of the current U.S. equities downleg is correct.
Yes, the smart money got into cash a while ago and is now sitting, patiently waiting to see how this shakes out and what firms and sectors come through this undervalued. At the moment I would say get into defense. There are wars coming.
On January 22nd restrictions on selling by certain large institutions and mutual funds will be lifted in China. We'll see some shit
The VIX keeps climbing.
>>61089256
It's unclear. They still have a billion people and manufacture more than anyone else, but now is an opportunity for others to outpace them.
Maybe if the US elects Trump and gets out shit together...
HOLY FUCK VIX +22%
>>61088999
If you don't shut these guys down, the stuffing in that mattress might be worth a whole lot less, pal.
>>61088999
Based trips say not at all. USD has the best bull case out there at the moment.
>>61089005
It's corrupt as hell, yes. Too many un-informed retail investors with too much margin being targeted by these guys >>61088783 who can front run them all the way down.
>>61084335
The market is just constricting like it's done before buy low sell high niggars
>>61084335
zero hedge is down.. It's happening.. We are all going to die.
>>61089475
How do you think this will effect Generation Z?
>>61089355
Did you watch China last night?
Did the same, then crashed, then gained, then crashed even more
>>61088817
>just my two cents tho
But that makes sense tho. Its no secret that the US and China have been in a trade war for the past decade.
Why would the fed raise interest now tho? Isn't it like the perfect storm?
Should I hold UXVY, double down, or reinvest in a different, more liquid, volatility security?
It's climbing, we've found the bottom
BUY BUY BUY!!!
>>61085375
> all those replies
>>61089597
It's going to keep dropping, so don't buy now.
And it's unlikely it will go up any time soon.
>>61089555
VIX 24.26% my bad
holy shit
>>61089609
More NEETs
>VIX +5.95 +24.84%
im not an adult pol are we fucked no im not an underaged ban either just an idiot
>>61089773
>>61089818
The end is nigh
So what do I spend my extra cash on?
Gold? Silver? Bullets? Food?
What are the chances of extreme inflation here ?
>>61089818
pretty much the entire world is red right now, id say we would have to wait till monday to confirm for sure, i know canada is fucked, thats for sure
>>61089773
it gain ~25% on Wednesday closing.
GUYS I GOT A HAPPENING FOR MY BIRTHDAY!!!!!
>>61089422
I would never post a pic on 4chan of anything related to the actual me.
I have professional-level access to the ES, the CL, and the USD/YEN cross, and the Shanghai. They tell me pretty much everything I need to know, with occasional glances at the cum tick.
I only trade the ES and only intraday. My (slow-speed, human-commit) algo has six moving parts. I will never get rich, I just make a living.
>>61089773
>tfw I knew I should buy VIX but too poor to buy stocks
>>61089630
Think of it as a big game of poker.
DOLLAR COOLLAPSE
TRUMP ELECTED PRESIDENT
JEWS MOVING TO AUSTRALIA DOING BUSINESS WITH CHINA
TRUMP-PUTIN PACT SIGNED
ISIS DESSIMATED
RUSH LIMBBAG SAYS TRUMP WEAK ON CHINA
SOUTH CHINA SEA SURPRISE ATTACK BY TRUMP
CHINA RETALIATES
WW3
HAPPENING
>>61089483
Kek
>but Muh taco bell trading jobs for robots
>>61090284
>DOLLAR COOLLAPSE
it's
>getting stronger
i'd buy yen if i had money
We'll start seeing a rise in silver and gold now btw.
>>61090284
nah its more like china and russia invade us when our dollar collapses.
>>61084335
Who cars about the stock market, Obama is being interviewed by Youtube stars!?!
What a joke. The last time he did it last year. That video barely broke 1 million views and that's after all the advertising it got. Other stupid shit on her channel has more views.
>>61090284
I never understand how the dollar collapse part happens, tho.
>-450 points
good god what is happening?
#Venezuela's President #Maduro declares 60-day state of economic emergency
The first domino to fall because of the low oil price.
It's beautiful if you take a step back and see how it all weaves together, it really is like chess.
Next is Russia, Saudi Arabia, Iran.. etc.. all the oil dependant states are going to have two choices, fall to revolutions or anarchy, or fight.
This is a long term plan put into motion years ago when the US decided to take full control. A desperate attempt to retain power. The west will not be allowed to fall, the east will not be allowed to rise, there will be war. And everyone is going to think in the future that the west were attacked first, that we were the good guys. Amazing. Watching an event in history like this unfold, really amazing to watch.
I'm terrified about what the future holds, maybe because i already see what it is. I wish i didn't.
>>61090028
You can't buy vix
>>61089928
Bullets because what happens when the money fo dem programs begins to dry or isn't worth shit?
>>61090371
Why the fuck would you buy yen nagger
>>61088368
faggot nigger
OIL HASN'T BEEN THIS CHEAP IN OVER 12 YEARS
HOLY SHIT
>>61089590
They should have known it was all over when this happened. Only the suckers are in it now. John Henry has been defeated by the machine.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-is-the-last-photo-well-ever-run-of-the-nyse-trading-floor-2014-10-01
>>61090485
in 2008 the exchange rate went from 120 to 80. and you get mad leverage with forex you could get rich
>>61090444
Margin calls will show up in the MOC balance. 4pm NY time.
>>61090461
You don't want the West to fall though. It's for our, and the Jews, benefit.
>>61090633
This is true, i don't, but something needs to change. We will pay in blood for this plan, we won't reap the benefits either, it'll just go on as usual afterwards, a little less hope for change each time.
>Margin call
>>61090461
Nigeria will be the first to go to guns. They could de-stabilize west Africa. More kebabs to remove.
>>61090633
Yeah you do.
>nihilism ftw
>>61088854
Lel 2008 was nothing
It's coming back
>>61090507
if you incorporate inflation, gas hasn't been this cheap since 1965
>>61090461
Balance of payments crises in oil producing nations when??
Venezuela is small potatoes but Russia, Brazil, Mexico are not
ONE OIL RIG DOWN
>>61090879
The bigger they are, they harder they will fall. remember that.
>>61090870
This.
Not looking good for an oil based currency.
>tfw got my first gun yesterday and loaded up on ammo.
Almost -500, then it fell
>>61090603
But the dollar is getting stronger and yen is more exposed to China
The yen is gonna keep falling so they can try to get more share of the export markets, while the dollar is gonna keep going up as the Fed raises rates
>>61086595
OFF WITH YOUR HEAD RABBITPOSTER
>>61090830
America will always be good, economically speaking. May not be #1, but we'll be in the top ten.
The European countries, especially the smaller ones, are the ones who should be scared. They can turn South American tier very rapidly. Then society will break down and you'll have rich Asians and Arabs buying beautiful white girls for cheap.
How embarrassing would it be for European people to immigrate to non-white countries for job opportunities en mass?
>>61091039
yen's already moved against the dollar, and the dollar other currencies. in times of crisis people move currency to safe havens and that's been japan and america
>>61090991
KSA won't have a balance of payments crisis problem for at least a year
ON THE WAY TO 500
>>61091029
>>61090870
Sold off a family member's stock in a oil trust or whatever
It's had just been falling all of 2015, I'm sure it still is
>>61091038
it already hit 520 or so earlier
>>61090870
Bundy's on the case
Snow's value is increasing exponentially
>>61091174
Swiss franc nigger
>>61090991
I wonder if Saudi Arabia will collapse before Iran and Russia
I mean at least Russia sells vodka and natural gas to Europe
>>61090855
These up legs are shorts covering. You can see it in the breadth.
>>61091170
>you'll have rich Asians and Arabs buying beautiful white girls for cheap.
Their money won't be worth anything either though
Germany will be fucked, especially with all their invaders
OK, you made me scared. I have about 40k euros invested in German stock.
The companies are: BASF, Deutsche Telekom and VW. Those are all my savings. Should I sell all of them now or what?
>>61091583
>VW
JUST
>>61091170
So they'll emmigrate to the USA then?
>mfw a single fucking dollar is worth 18.30 pesos
>1 year ago a dollar was worth 13 pesos
JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP
>>61091397
They'll attack Iran before they do. But i wouldn't be surprised either if there was a coup before that. There has been some unrest, and if anyone opens their eyes they'll see that KSA lowering oil prices on purpose is suicidal. The deficit they have already is fucking bananas.
>>61091583
Switch out Volkswagen to Siemens or something. Any german company that makes appliances is also good.
>>61091657
CRAWLING THROUGH MY WAAAALL
THESE MEEEXICAAAND ARENT LEAVING!
>>61091623
POLLUTE
>>61091765
K E K
E
K
>>61091397
saudi arabia is flooding the market just to fuck with people
they will be fine
>>61091583
If you are under 40, get ready to buy more. This can only go so long before central banks intervene. China will likely go first this time. They will devalue the yuan on a shock-overnight basis, then a massive short squeeze will bring things back into a range trade that will see volatility decrease gradually, then suddenly over a few weeks time.
Depending on events, March and April should see another melt-up, wall-of-worry rally back to something like S&P500 = 2050.
Don't sell anything in the red right now. You are an investor, not a trader. If all these preppers tales about the end of currency in general happen, no one is going to care about stocks anyway.
Buy the China devaluation and hope none of the major governments have to shoot protesters in the public square.
>>61085375
this is terrible shitposting you should be embarrassed
