http://icelandmag.visir.is/article/00-icelanders-25-years-or-younger-believe-god-created-world-new-poll-reveals
Do any of you seriously believe that Christianity has any future left (outside of Africa)? The chances of your grandkids (or kids outside of the USA) being christian is statistically negligent.
Maybe we should find something else to use to unify us against the fundie muslims and SJW infecting the world?
>Feel free to tip fedoras
>>61060981
Great
Christianity is an imported religion from the Middle-East and doesn't belong to Europe. The same apply for the other Judaic sect called Islam.
Because of Christianity, Europe knew 1,000 years of dark ages.
>>61061089
>>61060981
nice to see a mass outbreak of common sense
>>61060981
There is a difference between being religiously Christian and culturally Christian
White people will always be culturally Christian
Also there is a difference between believing in God and believing God created the Earth
>>61060981
here in america Christianity is still going strong, 40% of americans are creationists
>>61061113
Epic meme, friend.
>>61060981
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F_INMLk_lE I'd be skeptical about God aswell
>>61061089
absolutely my fedorra tipping friend its because of christinianity and not at all cause by the invasion of barbaric tribes since the 400's
it's fucking iceland
who cares
it's a viking colony
>>61060981
only money, common market and common orgies
all religion is source of all evil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlNw5ZuDYsk
need more amazing atheist, they are doing great job!
>>61061263
>White people will always be culturally Christian
lel
only a true omega "male" would disregard the ancestral beliefs of his people and instead replace it with jewish heresy.
absolutely disgraceful
>>61061089
>Because of Christianity, Europe knew 1,000 years of dark ages.
Yeah, totally has nothing to do with mini-Ice Ages destroying crops, or the plagues, or various geo-political events... it's Christianity.
Secular humanism is an outgrowth of Christian culture and values, and is the main nourishing catalyst for the development of scientific culture
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy5OajO7nrc
>>61060981
Paganism will and is having a resurge in popularity.
The human animal desires understanding, science doesnt provide those answers yet and in all probability never will, the nature of the universe is that we can't understand it by purposeful or accidental design.
So people will turn to religion slowly. Before it was athiesm you'd quietly ponder in hushed circles, now it'll be reverting to religion is seen in that light.
>>61061263
This
Church provides structure and tradition for people who otherwise lack it. It also makes you part of a network of people.
>>61061089
It might be of middle eastern origins, but Europeans turned it into a religion with European values, stories and holidays.
>>61061648
Lets just have the European values, stories and holidays without the part where we worship another peoples god.
>>61061089
The center of Rome was in Italy therefore it is European
What about all the pollies bro? They are Christians and we have a shit ton of the scum
Christianity is responsible for:
- repulsive choral music
- repulsive architecture
- repulsive paintings
- broken logic, superstitions
- slavery
- fall of the West
- lack of mass education
And it is all Jewish know-how.
No wonder it has literary ruined the world.
In Iceland maybe, but Christianity will always be of significant importance in america.
besides...
>Iceland
https://youtu.be/5F_INMLk_lE
>>61061200
And an irreversibly imploding demographics. Nice knowing you.
But they do believe in elves.
>In one 1998 survey, 54.4 percent of Icelanders said they believed in the existence of elves. That poll is fairly consistent with other findings and with qualitative fieldwork, according to an academic paper published in 2000 titled “The Elves’ Point of View" by Valdimar Hafstein, who now is a folkloristics professor at the University of Iceland. “If this was just one crazy lady talking about invisible friends, it's really easy to laugh about that,” Jónsdóttir said. “But to have people through hundreds of years talking about the same things, it’s beyond one or two crazy ladies. It is part of the nation.”
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/10/why-so-many-icelanders-still-believe-in-invisible-elves/280783/
>>61061593
Cultural adherence to religion doesn't make one iota to fertility and social cohesion. Might as well be a nihilist.
>>61060981
>statistically negligent
keks
>>61060981
So they worship socialism/man instead of god, nothing to see here.
>>61061883
Religion doesn't play a role in natality.
>>61060981
Considering this coincides with the apparent collapse of the western world?
Correlation is not causation, but suspecting you need something other than Christianity to save the west is a leap.
Look harder.
Good. High quality White people have no business believing in superstition. Religion is for the weak minded and is the definition of blue pill.
>>61061803
Upvoted
>>61061263
>Also there is a difference between believing in God and believing God created the Earth
No there isn't you fucking moron.
>>61062058
This
only good economy
if people are rich then they want to have children
if they work hard and have many quality things suddenly they feel life has a meaning and want to give those nice things to children
subhumans do not reproduce, like slavshits
>>61060981
CAN YOU HEAR THE CALL FOR THE WASTED AND WOUNDED
>>61062182
>only good economy
It's quite the opposite. Poorfags have more kids.
Here's Rosling's take on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezVk1ahRF78
>>61061803
>repulsive
Congrats on having shit taste.
>>61062182
>subhumans do not reproduce
literally the entire continent of Africa is doubling in population
some people have more important things to do than to do than to create more fucking people. people are a dime a dozen there are billions of any given race.
>>61062174
Well I believe there is a God but he had no real impact on the creation of the Earth outside the creation of the Universe, so what do you say to that, you fucking moron?
>>61062058
Yes it does; it's no wonder that most irreligious nations have the least amount of children. That's why atheism is dysgenic and a deviancy.
>>61061794
Those on the right are Christian. Those on the left are either non-practicing or atheists. Most just need to pretend to be Christian because of herd mentality in religous voters.
>>61062323
see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezVk1ahRF78
>>61062318
you're an idiot who believes a magic guy created all the objects in the universe
atheists will never have a common goal and never come together as a community. Atheism is only there to divide humanity. Atheism is pure cancer.
Atheism is simply a side-effect of degeneracy. When times are good, it begins to spread because people care only about the present with no heed to the past (where they may look for inspiration) or the future (where they may attempt greatness for their descendants).
Times in the West have been too good for too long. A good war will bring theism back to Europe.
Round trips to iceland are like 200usd right now.
Anyone been before? is it nice there?
>>61061380
I miss being blue pilled, smoking weed watching weebls, colbert and Leibowitz D':
>>61062298
>>61062301
>>61062306
> 2016
> facts have meaning
So bring a good economy to Africa and ruin it!
Then flood it with white immigrants!
>>61061200
Meanwhile they believe in even greater bullshit such as racial equality?
Wasn't it Iceland that wanted to import 40.000 Syrian refugees to their country with 200.000 population? I hope they do it now and these Syrians end up cutting their throat and raping their daughters.
>>61061113
>Christianity is statistically declining at an amazingly fast pace
>You post memes that always belonged in toxic cesspools that people circlejerk each other in so you can get back at a post you don't like
Not even an atheist, but you have to get serious, anon.
>>61062381
And what do you believe?
Ultimately it doesn't matter because belief or disbelief in a God is a thought exercise that we have no definite answer to and accomplishes nothing
My belief in a God has absolutely zero bearing on my life, It is literally irrelevant, can you say the same about your disbelief? Judging by how assblasted you are about what I believe, I'd say no.
>>61062385
proofs?
>>61062402
proofs?
a whole lot of insulting from christniggers but not a lot of sense. suppose going on the offensive with nonstop hat pictures and accusations is the only thing left you can do
>>61062359
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cflCyyEA2I
>>61062381
>he believes our entire universe was created out of nothing
>he calls anyone an idiot
>>61062318
You're a deist, and you seem like an actual rational person. I don't know you, but you're probably a great guy.
I try to sympathize with all points of view on this.
>>61062718
>he believes our entire universe was created out of nothing
he ahhh didn't say that exactly and anyone who'd describe the situation before the big bang 'nothing' is a certifiable retard
>>61061937
not to religion,
to tradition.
Fine by me. I was not raised Christian (despite being European), but I'm not a fedora tipper either. I kept an open mind.
But after going to a mass at a big beautiful old cathedral I was very disappointed. Aesthetically, I love the architecture of the church, and the music, and the way the voices echo through the cathedral. I like the ritual of it all as well.
But the hymns, fucking hell. They are the most cucked shit ever. Basically just lyric after lyric of grovelling before the Jewish sand god like good little goyim. Please Yahweh, have your way with me, I'm your good little goy!
I think I understand now how the West became so cucked. When Europeans were crusading and otherwise kicking ass, all the religious stuff was in Latin, which the common European couldn't even understand. But when they started doing mass in the common languages, and translating the bible, and Europeans became conscious of these cucked hymns they were reading, the big kike in the sky stole their balls.
>>61062385
>>61062182
>if people are rich then they want to have children
This is the exact opposite of what happens.
>>61062540
>tfw i triggered a christupid as an atheist with epic fedora maymay
>>61060981
This is a biased question from an atheist rag. Many Christians don't believe that God created the world, but believe he's created the environment that allowed the world to be created.
>>61062787
>he ahhh didn't say that exactly
that's pretty much what all atheists believe unless they're agnostic.
>and anyone who'd describe the situation before the big bang 'nothing' is a certifiable retard
So what was happening before the big bang and what caused it?
>>61062718
>filling some gap of knowledge with god for your own ignorance
>millions of years of evolution yet somehow we are gods greatest creation
>billlions and billions of star systems yet we believe we are above all
>>61060981
Thats a fukn beautiful church
>>61060981
Is it because they believe it was created from the remains of Ymir?
>>61062420
http://www.weebls-stuff.com/other-toons/video/the-lord-2.html
oldfag detected
how about that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxrSTQnYI6Y
>>61062909
>filling some gap of knowledge with god for your own ignorance
God is the logical conclusion to existence
>millions of years of evolution yet somehow we are gods greatest creation
This is an argument how? What does the length of our evolution have to do with God's love for humanity?
>billlions and billions of star systems yet we believe we are above all
hurr durr the universe is gigantic so we don't matter: your argument
>>61062903
>that's pretty much what all atheists believe unless they're agnostic.
you're a fucking idiot
>So what was happening before the big bang and what caused it?
to the laypersons understanding the necessary components needed to cause the 'big bang' (more accurately described as a 'slow expansion' the term big bang was coined by christniggers trying to discredit it)
>>61060981
>http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/more-than-11000-icelanders-offer-to-house-syrian-refugees-to-help-european-crisis-10480505.html
>More than 11,000 Icelanders offer to house Syrian refugees to help European crisis
Nation full of retards literally.
>>61062804
Doesn't matter.
>>61060981
>Nearly perfect society with a capable government that helps its citizen, good welfare, a decent and self-centered economy, no external threats, little to zero racial tensions and a beautiful island with significant natural resources (large, plentiful fishing and potential mining zones in the North Sea, and a ton of geothermal energy) and a large friendly trade partner that doesn't really have any control over them (European Union, and for that matter all major countries in it)
>Youth is completely atheist
They made their own country perfect without any help from the magic daddy in the sky, why would they revere him now ?
>>61060981
their IQ level
>>61062630
Did you just compare Rosling to Sam Hyde? What are you trying to say?
> tons of Jewish books on G*d
> Torah, Sefer Yetzirah, Zohar, Talmud
How come Jews could be wrong?
What if all of them were just ancient trolling?
> look muh hidden holy book
> dictated by G*d
> nao obey
And if no G*d then who is the 'chosen one'?
>>61063020
>you're a fucking idiot
And you're really mad right now lol
>to the laypersons understanding the necessary components needed to cause the 'big bang' (more accurately described as a 'slow expansion' the term big bang was coined by christniggers trying to discredit it)
All these buzzwords and you didn't even *try* to answer my question. sardonicism doesn't really suit you m8
>posting tumblrtale
wew lad
>>61063022
>Implying those 11,000 won't convert after 3 months of hanging with Mr Mohammed
>>61063025
wrong
>>61063022
>>61063122
>Muh strawman
A petition isn't even close to government action, also I haven't heard back about it in four months
Nothing to do with the OP article though
>>61062841
Wait, what? That makes no sense. The guy you originally replied to was an atheist. Then you bedora'd him. Why would you do that? You "dead kike on a stick" guys are weird, let me tell you. Explain yourself, I am interested as to why you attacked that other guy, he was your ally.
>>61063152
It's their mythology. Greeks had theirs, Jews had theirs, and then it mutated and blew out of proportion. Every culture has it's myths and legends.
>>61063127
He's implying TEDTalks are basically entertainment and shouldn't be taken seriously.
>>61063160
>And you're really mad right now lol
>U MAD
>buzzwords
which ones? also your question literally got answered. it's understood to not be 'nothing'
Though I do want to see more athiests/agnostics, I'd feel that well just get more and more degenerate as time goes on
>>61063196
Just like all Republicans are allies?
Also welcome to /pol/
>>61063256
if religion was effective at preventing 'degeneration' the middle east would be a paradise
inb4 islam and christianity aren't the same thing practiced by different people
The world was created when a giant thawed out of the eternal ice and drank the milk of the great cow Audhumla; later Odin and Thor slew him and cast his body about to make the plane of middle earth.
>>61063198
Have you ever read the talmud?
It's pretty overt how much they hate christians.
Unlike the bible, there's entire passages discussing how you do business with a jew versus a goy, or how you greet them, or how you treat them
Christianity is cucked it says treat everyone well and when he fucks with you turn the over cheek
I'm certain Christianity was a brilliant idea to pacify the pagans. Convert and you can keep your holidays goys, but be sure to follow the rules! And Odin is dead now, it's time for G-d to be your God
>>61063198
well, what are <our> myths?
like fucking none
>>61063290
Fuck you. That is a stupid comparison, faggot. That guy was just as much of a 'dead kike on a stick' guy as the guy he replied to was. The 'dead kike on a stick' guys are a very specific breed of atheist. This doesn't make sense, am I in the twilight zone? What year is this?
>OP
>>61063247
>U MAD
but you are
>also your question literally got answered
you didn't even write a complete sentence in all your frustration. you just got mad that the BB is not named how you wanted it to be named. how does that answer my question?
>it's understood to not be 'nothing'
So what is it?
>>61060981
The survey makes a false equivalent between Big Bang and God, Science and Religion. Of course young people who haven't reflected on anything are going to go with Science, because it's all around them shaping their very existence.
That being said, it's perfectly possible to believe in God and Science at the same time. Even if they have conflicting information they belong to different spheres of our lives. Science has a hard time giving us purpose or meaning + it cannot even explain what caused the Big Bang, only what happened after. Religion, however, is just as useless if you use it as a practical handbook on everything. Like building a boat or a rocket from passages of the Old Testament or to charter the history of the planet. If you use a religious text like that you are a retard, and no better than the muslims.
>>61063196
>being literally autistic AND christard
>>61063256
actually, catholics are the degenerates. actual atheists are more straight-edge than fire&brimstone baptists. ask any slut/coke head what their beliefs are, and they'll say catholic because it's the default open religion where they can get 10 stds and destroy what little family structure they have and then 'repent'
>>61063391
he looks a bit muslim-y especially with that beard
i wont be surprised if he replaced jihadi john
>>61063356
>the current year
Also, it's a fair comparison since you assume all atheists are on the same side on /pol/ threads you fucking cancer
>>61062203
WOOOOOOO HOHOOOOOOOO
>>61063391
>Just reading that profile
Holy shit, literally every tweet of his is solid meme gold. That must be a joke account.
>>61063490
He does look a little greasy
>>61063503
Hopefully so
>>61063419
>Of course young people who haven't reflected on anything are going to go with Science
Science is literally as far as "something you go for by default because you're ignoring" as it gets
You'd be surprised at how often science gets thrown out of the window because the populace can't understand its finer workings and it doesn't serve the narrative. Even progressives are doing it
>>61063354
http://www.polishtoledo.com/pagan/
>>61063503
>That must be a joke account.
No, its not.....
>>61061089
>Because of Christianity, Europe knew 1,000 years of dark ages.
Your fedora tipping is so hard you are about to take off
>>61063419
but what is science?
by which experiment can you check the Big Bang theory? How do you know the universe was the same say 10^6 years ago? You need to make an assumption literary pulled out of your ass ('cos I feel it is so).
Now what does it resemble?
>>61060981
National Socialism is the religion of the blood.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zvGjIaW6-M
>>61060981
Stupid shit like claiming the world is 6,000 years old is one of thre reasons why christianity is a joke. Religions just basically need to be a manual for a healthy life and society, with a bit of spirituality thrown in.
>>61063687
t. mahmud al-mohammed
>>61063356
>>61063488
This is ridiculous. I'm going to bed. Atheists are horrible, they cannot into logic and they fight with each other while wreaking havoc and causing mayhem in online communities. You guys are horrible. And no, we don't worship a Jewish God you FAGGOTS.
>>61063180
>Nothing to do with the OP article though
>Nation full of confirmed idiots.
>Who is not believing in god.
Not related to OP
KEK. Mustafa pls.
Goodbye kike.
>>61063779
Oh wow. I meant to quote this faggot >>61063491 but I quoted myself instead. Damn atheists, you always ruin everything.
>>61063585
>http://www.polishtoledo.com/pagan/
all is dead now
t. page on Polish myths in English...
Ancient (or not that ancient) are not known for inventing anything useful or worth mentioning.
> muh Arian ancestry
lol
>>61063633
You can check Big Bang features from a telescope, speed of light is a strange thing, that enables you to see older parts of the Universe, since the light has been travelling to Earth for billions of years. That is, at least, my impression. I am not a scientist, rather a religious person, who hates the false equivalent between Science and Religion. The media, especially in Iceland apparently, are really pushing the fundamentalist vs science and nothing in between angle. (The debate is far more nuanced in Denmark)
>>61061113
[spoiler]HE POSTED IT AGAIN[/spoiler]
is calling someone a fedora tipper the new stormfags damage control? P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C
>>61060981
Good
>>61061089
>>61063763
Tell me why I'm wrong, cleetus? Europeans need a strong and functioning religion to defeat Islam, not some cuck tier religion
>>61060981
>statistically negligent
>negligent
Negligent denotes someone who doesn't care about something he was supposed to. The word you are looking for is negligible.
Jesus was a Jew, Jesus is God, you worship a Jew. Good goy.
>>61063354
Remember the fairy tales about dragons, mice eating Popiel and the pagan gods lore? Those are the myths. They were changed into fairy tales in time.
Of course it's all dead, just like in Greece Olympian God lore isn't exactly doing well beyond "yeah there was such a thing".
>>61063938
like the bleeding heart liberals aren't scavenging on bits of the dead corpse of christianity when they prattle ceaselessly about empathy and welcoming refugees. those would be much more ridiculous weren't they resonating with a christian message so old they stopped being regarded as christian.
>>61063854
In Poland liberal media and (I guess) paid shills destroy catholic religion.
They make fake videos with religious people intended to enrage the population to turn it against the Church (and religion, presumably)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gv2mTwK2XU
>>61063938
Let's create a cult of Hitler, how about that?
>>61060981
Took us too long tbqhbfam
>>61063938
Religion is not gonna change anything. Moslems are poor, therefore they behave like animals. (Ex)Christians are rich, therefore they behave like degenerates. If a religion emerged in the west it would be just as degenerate as the west itself. If you forced a conservative religion upon the west it would never fly (with the majority of the people from the currently present generations etc etc) because the socio-economic reality is incompatible with it.
Basically you're too rich to be able to fend off the shitskins.
what has Christianity brought to Europe in 2000 years?
what has post ww2 secularization brought to Europe in 70 years?
I'm sure a wonderful future awaits atheist Europe
>>61063178
What a counterargument! LOL!
>>61063815
One thing I never understood about Christianity is that Jews are supposed to be God's chosen people, right? It's right there in the bible. Jesus himself was a Jew.
Does this mean that all Jews are going to heaven? But according to the the Jews, heaven doesn't exist. So why are the Jews God's chosen people if they don't believe in Jesus or heaven? Alternatively, if heaven and Jesus doesn't exist, why don't all Christians convert to Judaism?
>>61061089
The Dark Ages meme needs to die already.
>>61064153
a faggot that killed himself? Yeah, no, we tried that already.
>>61064153
Seeing how all forms of IE paganism, Manichaeism, Zoroastrianism and Vedic Brahmanism are either dead or being 'resurrected' by clueless nerds to continue living a fate worse than death, the only Aryan-founded world religion still in existence is Buddhism. Just saying.
>>61064238
Secularization started in the late 1700s. What happened after WW2 was denazification and frowning at racism, all fueled by the competing religion of Bolshevism, and that's what fucked up the white man's world.
>>61064238
>what has Christianity brought to Europe in 2000 years?
A ban on usury that made the 99% reliant on the monarch/bankers?
A pacified population who behave themselves but have no ability to get ahead?
What innovation could a commoner have had to increase his net worth in 1300? All they had was the kindness of the crown to give them more land to protect for the crown.
Only since post ww2 has any person been able to bootstrap himself out of his social caste - and even then, 99% of the time he doesn't.
>atheism: belief in absence of god or gods
>not necessarily a belief in anything else like for example bigbang
>christfags spend all day shitposting about scientific theories that don't necessarily have anything to do with athiesm
ITS EITHER BIG BANG OR MY BEARDED SKY FAIRY - christfag before bursting into tears before bursting into tears because people disagreed with him
>>61064295
Meme? Compare the advancements in technology, art and science of ancient greek/roman era with those in Medieval period.
>>61063938
>Europeans need a strong and functioning religion to defeat Islam
Right, so we should turn to
>some reconstruction of dead pagan religions (that even at their height weren't even "strong" enough to even hold up to "cuck" Christianity)
>retarded new age esoteric shit
>atheist fedora tipping, as practiced by the liberal secular humanists that are allowing this shit to happen in the first place
>converting to Hinduism and becoming a street shitter
>just bowing down to the Jews as their cattle and letting them rule over us even harsher than the Muslims
Clearly you must be advocating for something more "strong and functioning" than the religion comprising a majority both in Europe and the world with two thousand years of unbroken apostolic legitimacy from Jesus Christ himself, and that was followed by virtually all Europeans at the apex of their civilizational power.
>>61064297
>he actually believes he killed himself
He escaped to South America.
>>61060981
OP here, haven't really read any replies, but you fags sure love talking about religion ae
Anyway I'll let you know that Pantheism is the correct religion, everything else is wrong.
And imbuing cultural christian traits that promote the survival and advancement of the white race and western civilization while throwing away the bullshite and recognizing that no one will ever know for sure is probably the best way to proceed.
>>61064391
>LEL CHRISTFAGS
>YOUR WRONG
>YOUR WRONG
>YOOOOUR WROOOONG
>Well how the fuck do you think it happened?
>I DUNNO!
>BUT YOUR WROOOONG!
>>61061263
>White people will always be culturally Christian
They always were, even before the Jew on a stick forced himself on them.
Christianity usurps human decency and claims credit for it, one of the most loathsome things about it.
>>61064416
Just fucking stop.
>>61064222
This.
There are some advantages in staying poor tbhfam
>>61060981
>Icelanders 25 years or younger
so, about 200 people, total
>>61060981
Based Iceland.
>>61064489
explain how your theory is more valid than the creation myth of every other religion ever?
that's what i understand least, the only single tihng you need to do to know religion is shit is to see just how many of them there are, meaning the statistical likelihood of yours being the correct one next to nothing
>>61064428
still a faggot's move.
>>61064360
>Secularization started in the late 1700s
only for the elites, mass seculariztion started after ww2
>>61064373
yeah bla bla christianity was such a cancer that western civilization lasted till ww2, then secularization started to happen
anyway now atheism has won, congratulations, again, I see the glorious future awaiting the west
well, apart for Italy, we are the last non-secular country in Europe.. and it feels good
>>61064489
>make unverified claims that get constantly disproved
>get told you're wrong
>attempt to argue that because the truth is unknown, claims to the truth, even with no evidence, can't be wrong
Sorry fuckstick. Just because we don't know what's right doesn't mean we don't know what's wrong.
>>61064425
No matter how much you might want to be a Christian, you can't look anyone in the eye and say "I sincerely believe the world was created 6000 years ago"
Christianity is doomed. I believe in god, but I don't believe in all the nonsense that the bible spews.
>>61061113
He's right though. You worship an Arab.
>>61064295
>The Dark Ages meme needs to die already.
But they _are_ dark, in the original sense of not having left enough documentation to see exactly what kind of shit went down back then.
Also: incipient Christian theocracy, superstitions of all sorts, Somalian-level warlordism and casual violence even in peacetime, innumerable incursions by raiders from sea and steppe, threat of an Islamic takeover, the vast majority of people living under prehistoric conditions because Rome fell and left no standards => pretty dark times if you ask me.
>>61061883
>And an irreversibly imploding demographics. Nice knowing you.
>>61064528
>>61064561
nice non-argument m8.
>>61061089
>>61064644
>yeah bla bla
oh look a dumb wog faggot ignoring facts
>>61061089
I'm an atheist, but I know that Christianity preserved a lot of knowledge, and created more than it destroyed.
The "dark ages" weren't so dark, weren't for a 1000 years, didn't happen across the continent at once, and weren't caused by Christianity .
Yes after Rome fell there was chaos ongst the destabilized Europe. There were also periods of plague war and raids dotted about Europe.
However if you look at the metallurgical , engineering, warfare, architectural and scientific advancements from the fall of Rome to the Italian Rennaisance it was a slow but steady progression.
>INB4 that flawed at fuck debunked graph of human inventions dropping for a millenium
>>61064708
Zen Catholicism is the only way.
>>61064763
Now exclude the (shitskin) immigration.
>>61060981
>mfw radical Atheists will eliminate all religionfags
>>61060981
When we talk about god we talk about people being tested its all over the bible from adam and eve and the apple ,to jesus meeting with satan.
Its 2016 and if you think you are not being tested you are as dumb as shit, in the old days god had his gods now he uses science
>>61064769
Nice rebuttal of an actual historian. I eventually got bored of arm chair Athiest spewing bullshit "muh dark ages" nonsense when every creditable historian would roll their eyes at the notion, and book trying to push said myth has been ripped to pieces.
Go cuck yourself some more to stimulate that straw man your typing.
>>61064708
>Christianity is doomed.
People have been saying that literally since Jesus was nailed to the cross. All sorts of kings and god-emperors at the head of the most powerful nations in the world have said that they would see the end of Christianity. If they were wrong, why should I believe you now?
>>61060981
>93.9% of Icelanders younger than 25 believed the world was created in the big bang, 6.1% either had no opinion or thought it had come into existence through some other means and 0.0% believed it had been created by God.
>At the same time 40.5% of people who were 25 years or younger said they were atheists, and only 42% said they were Christian.
>people fall for this bait
>>61064644
>yeah bla bla christianity was such a cancer that western civilization lasted till ww2, then secularization started to happen
well, this is one reading. another reading is that christianity as a parasitic ideology managed to cling on to the european civilisation until we have found a cure. now we are facing new challenges, and the problem is that christian principles no longer seen as christian are merrily fucking around in our heads with a disgust for christian practice back then, which was the opposite of christian principles, basically violent racism. european culture would not have survived if it wasn't violently racist, in clear contradiction to christianity's ideas. if so many people wouldn't think having empathy and mercy upon the poor was a valid proposition and not just a baseless christian meme, and the same many people would not be horrified what people back then did to other people, mostly in the name of christianity even while disregarding its basic tenets, we'd have no muslims in the heart of europe now.
>>61064786
your "facts" are bullshits because if christianity was such a suicidal cancer, our civilization would never have survived to 2000 years of it. but we are still here and united under the christian banner, we repelled the muslims in Vienna, France, Spain, Lepanto and colonized half the world.
mass secularization in society begun to spread after WW2, and that's when we started to have problem
you think that atheism is redpilled when it's jewish mass medias that promote secularization, irreligiousity and an ethic antithetical to christian one
Good luck for the future, you wanted atheism? you got it
christianity was never strong here to begin with but it is a pretty loaded question because it doesn't actually say '0% of icelandic retards are religious'. It just refers to how the world was created
>>61065006
never strong has a christfag cross in his flag
>>61065001
>your "facts" are bullshits because if christianity was such a suicidal cancer, our civilization would never have survived to 2000 years of it.
says who? here's an alternative: the european spirit was so strong it survived despite christianity sucking its blood for 2000 years.
>>61062718
>out of nothing
But that's wrong you fucking idiot
ITT christians desperately trying to make arguments for the return of a christian theocracy. ISIS by any other name would smell just as foul.
>>61065128
>>61063015
>God is the logical conclusion to existence
>It's true because I SAID it's logical, without actually telling how is it logical
>>61064708
>Christianity is doomed. I believe in god, but I don't believe in all the nonsense that the bible spews.
Then you have no basis to believe in God. The Bible is the only piece of information in favor of the hypothesis, and it is flawed.
>>61065195
I've only just now noticed that he uses a dead squirrel to apply the paint.
>>61064982
>this is one reading. another reading
a reading we can all agree upon is that we live in a post-christian western world, 70 years passed, it's useless to argue now, let's wait another 50 years to see where this will have led us
>european culture would not have survived if it wasn't violently racist
Italy never been violently racist, not even under fascism, how can you be racist when half of your population looks like niggers or arabs? we always looked at culture not race
I go to prepare lunch, we dine at 12 here in my small religious bigoted backwards kike village on the Alps
>>61061492
Yeah, that, or I believe, as we've already beginning to see, that intelligent young (white) people turn to spirituality to satisfy their "soul's needs". But I think most young people despise an organized church and follow lutheranism out to its literal extreme: the only thing that matters is their personal relationship with "god"/the earth/whatever and how that affects them (in regards of personal happiness and so on). Remember, people don't give a shit about each other. Never have and never will.
>>61065006
It's weird how the Faroese are so Christian. Why is that?
>>61060981
Good, to hell with religion.
>>61065402
you have something on your flag, finni
>>61065431
And you'll soon have something on yours too.
>>61065483
Please not another million.
>>61065360
the faroese are fucking weird but jesus christ are they cool. Those guys always take care of us and try to help us if we're fucked but even though we never do the same for them.
Ås for the christianity, it's my bet everything bad in the western world can be traced back to the internet. We all know the melting pot theory but I want to blame everything on social media.
We are always surrounded by all these fucking people we barely know, it's so easy to get connected with people nowadays you never have to fall out with any of your friends, you're always surrounded by their stupid facebook posts. In my opinion, this creates some sort of artificial Behavioral Sink due to overpopulation from always feeling surrounded by all these people. And that's why I think tumblr exists
>>61063015
>I can't comprehend my own existence and am afraid of death.
>Therefore the logical conclusion is that a celestial omnipotent being in the sky created the universe, a being to which I have a personal connection and who will allow me to ascend to everlasting life in the sky once I die.
In what way is that logical? Honestly, why are you so adamant that you have to have an answer to how life/the universe was created, why not just accept there's some things we don't know? At least science can admit it doesn't have all the answers - it doesn't claim infallibility; in fact it asserts the opposite, which is far more logical then believing all the answers in the universe were given to you by magic men in the Middle East thousands of years ago..
>>61065360
>>61065431
The first Finnish state flag looked like this before they made a copy of the Swedish flag.
The question was:
>How do you think the universe came to be?
and the answers were:
>The universe came to be in the Big Bang
>God created the universe
>Don't know
>Other
>>61064927
nice shitposting mr "actual Historian"
>>61065671
There's something about northern european thinking.
There's no way an American would write or think this post, nor a shitskin Italian.
I don't know if it's genetic or cultural but you guys think fucking weirdly esoterically. I'm not saying you think wrong, I'd say you're generally right, but you think in weird out of the box ways.
I like it. Get your shit together and close your borders for everyone but me.
>>61065723
what do the little white flowers represent?
also the flag is probably the coat of arms of some king, right?
>>61065483
TOLD
ABSOLUTELY TOLD
>>61065764
Gaia rose up from Chaos and gave birth to the mountains, seas and so on.
>>61065784
but nobody listens to me when I tell them arabs are scum :'^(
If you don't raise a child to be religious, he or she's not going to be religious. Simple as that. And we're long past the age of imposing our beliefs on our children.
Except for Islam.
>>61065723
Pretty sweet flag, just looks a little too much like a sickle and hammer
>>61060981
Werent' they building the first Norse temple in 1000 years?
Hows that going?
>>61065886
Can't you just point to Norway and Denmark and show them how we are trying to protect ourself from them?
>>61065899
You have something against sickle and hammer, faggot?
>>61065935
Theyd just get the no true arabman argument that they are just minorities and muh babies and muh women
>>61065935
I try sometimes but people really want to please the merchant
>>61065834
The Irish are supposed to be on our side. How far have we fallen?
>>61065764
Anyone who thinks a poll this poorly designed given to children could yeild good data is an autist. The anwers are contradictory based on different denominations of Christianity, most Christians believe in the Big Bang theory and it was literally proposed by a catholic priest.
>>61065822
>The purpose of the nine roses remains unknown, but are now mostly considered to be decorative only. They have sometimes been claimed to represent the nine historical provinces of Finland, but this hypothesis has not found support among prominent scholars.[1] The number of towns in the nominal "Grand Duchy of Finland and Karelia" in 1580 were also nine,[2] but no known historical research provides support for a link between the number of roses and the number of towns in Finland in 1580.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Finland
>also the flag is probably the coat of arms of some king, right?
Yeah, Gustav Vasa.
>>61064473
alfred rosenburg already tried that
>>61065978
Yes, I'm American and it goes against my values. The cold war is over Vlad :^)
>>61065978
Lepiej wódki polej, Wania.
>>61065978
Calm down, Russianbro, if you're too agitated someone might send you to the Gulag.
>>61066045
Hell no, we're just in the interbellum.
>>61065765
>he thinks Gothic buttresses and pointed arches aren't objectively superior, both from an aesthetic and engineering standpoint, than "muh roman revivalism"
shit let's, like, put blocks of marble on some PILLARS and sheeit
>>61061089
true, Before the Xfags invaded Rome we had toilet and sewer system, after Xfags we pooped behind curtains like poo in loo indians.
The Greek/roman religion as so much superior.
>>61061803
>repulsive choral music
>repulsive architecture
>repulsive paintings
shit tier opinion, pic related.
>broken logic, superstitions
[citation needed]
>slavery
slavery has been going on well over -4000BC (before christ)
>fall of the West
No, you're an idiot.
>lack of mass education
nigga please, Christianity started mass education, the monks were the first teachers that taught outside a select group (scribes in ancient Greece and Egypt only taught other scribes)
>>61066022
>latin inscription
>finland part of christianhood
>gustav would have never been king if it wasn't for christianity
I'm an Atheist and I dont say you do, but reminder to not shit over your history and culture.
>>61066156
I think the argument here is that most of these innovations came after the dark ages, and many of them, like the dome for example, were just a reinvention of classic techniques.
>>61066216
Lol, but he did shit on the known Christianity of the time by changing to Protestantism and grabbing the wealth of the Catholics in Sweden.
>>61066156
Those marble pillars happened 1000 years before the gothic shit. Thats the point.
>>61060981
wait a minute that church
WASTED AND WOUUUUUUUNDEEEEEEEED
He warned you
>>61066353
Doesn't matter.
>>61060981
No, but they do believe in fairies, trolls, and elves.
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/10/why-so-many-icelanders-still-believe-in-invisible-elves/280783/
>>61066648
Folk religion is stupid, but kinda cozy, reminds me of Scandinavia in old times. In rural Jutland you too can find people who believe in trolls and elves. Mostly old people though.
>>61061803
>repulsive music
Woah woah woah man, let's not have shit taste. At least say Christian Rock
>>61060981
>This thread
>/pol/
>i trust in some fantasy god
>i-i'm red pilled!
>>61060981
Is there anyone here who is unironically atheist?
I mean i can understand the political position of atheism as a way to counter organized relgiones, but come on seriously, the whole of science points to a deity, a mechanism, an unifying law that ties everything together.
A One True God ™ that controls and determine all the movements in the cosmos
Science is a theological endeavor run lose, we are so far removed from reality by abstractions of thought that we can't see it, but literally, there is nothing cold about colliding atoms to see what is inside, its a search for god in a very real and organic way, we are forcefully tearing apart the fabric of reality with the hopes of finding anything on the other side, its some kind of mega-penetration, more real than the real.
>>61061803
>>61067210
>Believing in the fantasy universe when literally something came from nothing no matter how you look at it, God or no God
>Our entire existence came for no fucking reason
>A causeless effect
Nothing fucking makes sense.
The only way this shit works is if there's a giant fucking string of causes that goes on forever so the effects happen.
>>61067442
>implying such a thing as 'nothing' exists
>>61066465
>le goalpost shift
The argument was the the "christian dark ages" were worse, not better.
Daily reminder that atheism is becoming less and less relevant globally with each passing year.
>>61067584
Exactly anon. Now you see it.
>>61067634
i kind of feel raped by reality, there is no escaping it, is there?
>>61067442
> Implying this is what science says
http://news.yahoo.com/two-most-dangerous-numbers-universe-194557366.html
>>61060981
>0.0%
>>61067584
of course there is a "nothing" an unfurnished room isn't just going to furnish itself
even going by your assumption. there was still a "first cause" in the dawn of time that started all this from inertness
>>61060981
>Iceland
Wonder if it has some correlation to all the antidepressants people in that country consume.
>>61064744
>my historical knowledge consists of movies and videogames
>>61067843
not if there are more rooms!
Physics right now point out there is something we don't know about influencing the whole structure and existence of the universe.
Either it's God or it's influences from other universes, i.e. the existence of the multiverse.
again see:
http://news.yahoo.com/two-most-dangerous-numbers-universe-194557366.html
>>61060981
I believe that it has a future wherever the human race has a future. Given that Iceland, like other secularist countries, is breeding below sustainability, what they believe really doesn't matter. Their rejection of God is the dying gasp of a race intent on extinction. Do you take suicide notes seriously too?
>>61067843
that is assuming 3d + time is not just an emergent quality of the universe
and even then, the unfurnished room is a furnished room in potency, not a nothing
and even then it needs four walls, a roof and a floor to be a room, theres a configuration implicit in the very 'nothing' where the universe 'pops from'
An ever existing 'god' kind of thingy, on the other hand, the ultimate existing fire which is "always presently existing", is the only way in which all facts come together
>>61067999
There can't be more rooms or then we would be taking about the house, this is not a natural science question, it has more to do with maths, the definition of universe under which we work is "all there is". "All there is" being able to expand as we notice that what we thought was all is not really all but a part of the True All.
>>61067604
>liberals and atheists being outbred
only reason why atheism isnt a majority in the western world
>>61060981
This makes me sad.
Oh well, people have their own opinions on religion and I can't force them to agree with me.
>>61067999
that doesn't really say anything about Creation though. even the Higgs field collapsing supports non-existence
>>61064744
Not really. The problem with the "Dark Ages" hypothesis is that it is unscientific and also needlessly vague. Petrarch came up with the meme in the 1400s and he intended it to span from the fall of Western Rome to his time.
Are you insinuating that the Carolingian Empire was dark? Unchronicled? A time of ignorance and regression? No, of course you don't, because that would be fucking retarded. And so you do not actually believe in the Dark Ages.
>>61061346
It's fucking Swedenstan
Who cares
It's an Arab colony
>>61060981
>oh no, people are getting too smart to believe in the Desert Trilogy!
>oh the hue-man-ee-tee!
>>61068182
And the only reason there aren't more people living with Ebola is that they all seem to die.
good for them.
the next 0 will be their birth rate as the country descends into mindless indulgence.
atheism today. islam tomorrow.
>>61064744
That is not true at all.
>>61067230
dude meth lmao
>>61060981
>0.0%
>0
>0
>0.0
>>61068288
good goy
Christianity is not jewish, Christianity is White.
>le desert
>>61067210
yes.. good goy..
>>61068288
>desert trilogy
I like that because it really is a trilogy
>>61068472
forgot picture
>0
Do all of you guys honestly think that a western Nordic country having a new, extremely prevalent demographic change in belief in something is good, as long as it's atheism?
Do you think this is the one thing they don't want, that happens to go up with the decline of the west? Do you not realize America and the west were better when they were Christian? Do you not realize atheism is Marxism?
>>61068137
read the article and learn physics.
http://news.yahoo.com/two-most-dangerous-numbers-universe-194557366.html
Science has mapped physics of the super large and of the super small and tried to combine them in what is called the theory of Everything.
However upon trying to balance all forces and matter in the Universe in a single equation remarkable facts have come up on the structure of the universe.
Not only is there something lacking in our equations, the chances of our universe actually existing like it does right now is extremely unlikely. We can only explain this through the influence of forces exterior to our universe, i.e. forces from other universes acting on our universe which means there must exist a multiverse (as predicted by super string theory) or it's actual scientific evidence of the finger of God.
