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>>67622778
so close
>>67622692
Bernie is not a communist of the Bolshevik variation. He's not even a socialist you fool. He's quite tolerable (or at least has to be to even have a conceivable chance of winning) of capitalism. He's more of a social democrat. It seems as though the idiotic political American landscape has shifted so right that anybody even slightly left is now deemed a communist. And now the right holds on to the word communist as their reserved tribal black word like the "left" holds on to the word racist.
P.s. You're not really being called an idiot with conviction. It's just normal behavior here and one doesn't know you.
>>67623672
No matter how you spin it, you're still gonna have to build that wall Paco.
>>67622692
U
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>>67623672
Finally, someone who gets it.
>>67623868
There is no spin and the wall is not being discussed.
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>>67622692
Yeah rip
Between Bernie and Jeb, who would win in a cuck contest?
>>67622692
>>67624410
RARE FLAG
>>67622692
Eat shit, bernie.
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RIP in peace comrade.
>>67624410
When did Texas secede from the US?
>>67624600
rare newfag
>>67624600
Here's your (New)
>>67624492
Bernie, Jeb at least attacked Trump even though it was very low energy attacks. Bernie literally gave Clinton a pass on her emails.
>>67622778
If Bernie drops, does Hillary become the candidate? Or do they have to do the rest of primaries and convention?
>>67623672
Seeing as this is 4chan, I wouldn't expect you autists to understand hyperboles.
>>67627711
One doesn't have autism. It's a little silly to even have to say that as your use of autist is more than likely to be a hyperbole. That's just a redundant characteristic and it's used to try to make things clear. Often comedy and other forms of entertainment are marinated so thoroughly that people become confused.
Back to the point, it really could be that you're overestimating people. It seems a reality that a sizable portion of people really believe Obama to be a socialist for ex. You don't think anybody considers Bernie to be a socialist. That point was even brought up in a public interview which is telling. Many these days really can't distinguish these matters.
>>67623672
Just because he know he could never win as a communist doesn't mean all his beliefs (egalitarianism, 0 economic education) scream communism.
You should stop swallowing people's proposals and self-given tags and start looking at their messages and reading between the lines of what those beliefs could ultimately lead them to.
Most people vote for what candidates propose, it's 100% guaranteed to end up in disappointment.
>>67629117
That's actually right. If circumstances allowed for it, he really could lean towards communism. But that doesn't seem to relevant. Mostly what one bases or should base their political election on are the word of the candidates and their previous political decisions (if any) which through this criteria would not set up Bernie as a communist.
What or whose proposals and self-given are being swallowed. Those of Sanders? If yes, that could only partially be correct as Sanders calls himself a socialist and one differs. You could clarify your second line as one doesn't want to misrepresent what you meant.
Your third line also seems very wise. There are always special interests influencing politicians.
>>67629795
I just believe politicians have no idea about how to rule a country, they just know how to get to the position of ruling a country.
Therefore, their proposals are usually irrelevant, their intentions are what is relevant. If a candidate starts spewing that he's going to boost taxes for the rich, because he wants to take care of American families, what I will not discard for the whole message is the ultimate target: He wants to "help" American families.
Now, if that's his objective, and with power in his hands, he may begin trying to raise taxes for the rich, but my experience already tells me that is counter productive, the thing with politicians is that at that point depend on their completely retarded voters, which will ask them to go further once they see their moderate ways don't work, and they do go further: Price controls, meddling with private entities, expropriations...Then, after this candidate is burnt out because socialism never works, they will look for another collectivist inexperienced politician to put their faith into, rinse and repeat.
Bernie's messages are the same we've been hearing all over the world from people who seemed moderate at first, and it always ends in pseudo communism.
>>67630560
Politicians seem to know how to rule a country and they've always done it, but it's always been for themselves and for the those on top in the private sector.
Every politician will claim to do good and right for the country and its inhabitants. This is always the supposed target and promise, so if an individual cares enough, the only thing he could go on would be the politician's proposals. Politicians are usually not at all like the average inhabitant. They tend to be wealthy and privileged; they live off the benefits of the people they pretend to represent. An otherwise altruistic person now bearing the shoes of a politician or CEO, will become an exploiter of the workers. 'Tis is what the nature of the political and business hierarchical mechanism in place.
State socialism, if that's what you're referring to, does work... for the few government elites oppressing and leeching off the mass.
