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So is it actually true that women only make 70% of what men earn
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So is it actually true that women only make 70% of what men earn for the same work?
Because this sounds so ludicrous and illegal to me that if a man and woman had the exact same job, the female employee would openly receives only 70% of the male colleague paycheck. That can't actually be the truth.

Or do feminists mean when they say this that women on average earn only 70% of what men make on average? Because that is obviously fair and logical. Most women prefer to do jobs like kindergartener or primary school teacher, while it's primarily males who work on offshore oil rigs. Obviously the more dangerous job deserves a higher pay.

So what exactly is it?
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Yes, fuck, Jesus, women as a whole make less then men as a whole. Everyone knows this. The part that continues to fly over your head is that less women are in STEM fields... Women aren't allowed to join STEM you say? NO! They're actively encouraged to join, but somehow there are less women then men. Maybe... and bare with me... maybe they CHOSE not to join. Maybe women are flocking to gender studies and other useless degrees instead of getting into technology and engineering. Women are the reason the wage-gap exists, not the patriarchy. The point is, the fact that the gap exists does not mean something needs to be done about it. That's a non-sequitur and you know it. Feminism is about empowering women to choose. You're witnessing the result of their choice. Lets say we DO decide to fix this issue. Why not start at the ground up? Let's ensure there are as many women in sewage jobs as men, lets make sure there are as many women in mining jobs as men, lets ensure there are as many women driving big-rig trucks as men... then when the foundation is laid we will get more women into CEO positions.
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>>67112788
Do we really need this thread again?

This is bait, right?
Just to be short: comparing for example investment banking with some social worker shit, men take more risks and men work longer.

There is no wage gap, that would even be against the laws in Germany.
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>>67112788
Equal pay for equal work has been the law in the USA since 1965. The gender pay gap is bullshit. The statistics showing women only making ~70% as much as men doesn't take into account each individual profession. It's just an across the board average.
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>>67112788
The second, mostly. On average women earn less as less of them work and they don't work as many high paying jobs.
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>>67112788
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjWBXbGVyQU
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>>67112788
if it was the truth then companies would only hire women.

people get payed what they are worth. and women are not as competent, and also care more about families than work. their work is valued at 70% of a mans work. on average.
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>>67112788
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDj_bN0L8XM
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>>67112788
The hole 70 cents on the dollar comes from one research being which was done around the turn of the century. It compared the average wage of women who worked full time to the average wage of men doing the same. It did not factor in job occupation, but still claims the outcome would be the same, which it obviously ridiculous.
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>>67112788
It's a complete lie you retard. They take a woman's job like office receptionist (which entails doing nothing. with absolutely zero risk) And compare it to a man's job like diesel machanic on an ocean-going cruise ship (which is highly dangerous and highly difficult) and scream that they don't make the same pay.

Have you ever seen a female auto-mechanic? (no, you haven't)
Have you ever seen a female trash man? (no you have not)

Because women can't , and don't, do hard work, then they want the same pay for the easy "jobs" they do have.
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>>67112788
>Or do feminists mean when they say this that women on average earn only 70% of what men make on average?

this part
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>>67113461
>the article is real
Absolute madman
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>>67112788

This has to be fucking bait, if you use the internet there's no way you don't know that it's a myth.

A lie, told over and over again.

it's been debunked thousands of fucking times, they take all the women, and all the men, then compare the income, they don't factor in shit.

they don't factor in hours, overtime, risk, difficulty, requirements, positions, seniority, maternity leave, location, and we see trudeau and Obama spouting that shit off, still, they're fucking retards.

As soon as they take into account anything other than gender, the wage gap vanishes, and it shouldn't because women don't deserve as much as men in the first place, especially to a woman catering society where they don't go poor, have their food and drinks bought for them if not on the house, have their rent paid, it's just fucking endless.

Fuck feminists, if you want to know why feminists think there is sexism towards women and discrimination, that's because feminists are all fat, ugly, and stupid, so they're treated like men, and they think they're getting a raw deal.

Men get the fuckin raw deal, lose some weight and start manipulating horny men enslaved to their sex drive.

Just like how women are enslaved to their emotions and insanity
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>>67112788
>the exact same job
Which job? Using "the same job" as some sort of vague statistical generalisation is totally meaningless unless you can be definite about which job you're talking about. The proponents of the wage gap myth will never be able to provide that qualification.
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>>67112788
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDj_bN0L8XM
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