Are highways, public libraries, social security, etc. "democratic socialist" contributions to society? This sounds like pure bullshit, but this is one of Bernbots' primary arguments for socialism.
There are socialist programs implemented because a total of either system would be fucking retarded.
Want to go down the street? Better pay the WallMartTM-road fee!
There has to be a balance otherwise the over exploitation of either side would be dumb
>>66875880
Highways are vital national infrastructure and any form of government with any economic policy should aim to maintain this.
Social security, "welfare", is secondary to this.
Public libraries don't cost nearly as much as they are made out to be. A single failed government program will cover library operating costs for years. Welfare is what is murdering western governments and economies.
>>66876267
>This
Welfare is, in theory, good. You don´t have to worry too much about your future. I.e.
>Loose Job b/c economey goes down / Boss makes stupid decisions
>Loose everything and live from thrash if you´re unlucky
>Or have a minimum to atleast live and a better chance to get back into worklife.
Thing is the people exploiting that system.
If you got too many people who are happy to just sit on there asses all day and browse the net.... you´re fucked.
I´m really interested in how it plays out with Finlands new universal Government pay.
I think that this could very well be a vastly better system as the incentive to work is always there, no stupid shit like here were you actually LOOSE money, sometimes, if you working.
I mean why should people work for 1000€/Month if they get the same from welfare?
Why spend 40h/weeks for literally nothing?
In Finland you´d get the payment from your work plus the Gubment universal payment.
So you´d get ~1800€ for working a 1000€ job, that´s quite the difference.
The only thing that works at this time in Germany is the Healthcare system, which is IMHO good.
Yes you can get insurance in the US too, before that Obamacare mess, and I don´t know how the costs of this compared to the average loan worksout but it would be only logical that the more people pay into it, the less it costs for everybody.
The thing is that poor breeds criminals, the less poor people you have the less crime you get... though this all depends heavily on the mindset of the people.
So what works for one country doesnt necessarily work for another, same with gun laws, drug laws etc.etc.
And now with so many mudskins flooding yuroop were fucked either way, so it really doesnt matter... maybe a few years or less to go.
>>66875880
Those are all purely socialist programs. Other socialist programs include fire departments, hoover dam, sewage and drinking water systems
>>66876267
>Highways are vital national infrastructure and any form of government with any economic policy should aim to maintain this.
It's socialist... The good conservative way to do it is to let private companies build highways and take tolls. if it is needed then let the market do it.
Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are also "socialist"
>>66875880
>state builds something = socialism
I fucking hate /pol/
>>66877340
The problem with welfare is niggers.
Whites have too much pride in themselves to just sit around and laze about. They will refuse welfare and shame themselves for being on government money.
Niggers have no conceptualization of this feeling.
>The only thing that works at this time in Germany is the Healthcare system, which is IMHO good.
Say again? In a few months time you will need a private clinic or you're fucked. Your healthcare system simply cannot cope with the load of the niggers that arrived last year.
>The thing is that poor breeds criminals, the less poor people you have the less crime you get
Socioeconomic bullshit, being poor is not an excuse for criminality. Poor whites are still more behaved than rich niggers.
>maybe a few years or less to go.
Soon Rope Day will be upon us.
>>66877553
No. Highways are absolutely vital national infrastructure. There is a certain limit to "leaving it to the market to decide".
>>66877635
>whites have too much pride and refuse welfare
You do know that in America the most recipients of welfare and food stamps are white , right ?
Of course there are way more whites than blacks, but what you are saying is utterly retarded.
>muh niggers
Did a nigger fuck your gf or something?
>>66877843
>You do know that in America the most recipients of welfare and food stamps are white , right ?
>Of course there are way more whites than blacks, but what you are saying is utterly retarded.
you explained why you were wrong all by your self
>>66877843
>what is per capita and how do I calculate it
Mind paying debts first?
>>66877843
>Too big of a dirty mongrel to even understand basic statistics.
But then again cant get mad at you because you are clearly in too much denbt to recieve any meaningful education.
>>66875880
The bottom right is precisely what is happening today.
>>66877340
>If you got too many people who are happy to just sit on there asses all day and browse the net.... you´re fucked.
if this is true for young healthy individuals, then your welfare system. Welfare should only be used to help working people in a downtime, and for those who can't work, to have enough not to starve and be homeless.
>The thing is that poor breeds criminals, the less poor people you have the less crime you get... though this all depends heavily on the mindset of the people.
This is what welfare is for. So that poor individuals don't have to become criminals and dsrupt the working individuals.
>>66878162
Greece is the same country which had a national debt of 30 bn €, needed 30 bn € to bailout, then needed 60 bn € to bailout again, and finally another 120 bn € to bailout a third time. I know it was a goldman sachs jew money drain, but jesus christ come on.
>>66877579
It's american politics
>>66877635
>Say again? In a few months time you will need a private clinic or you're fucked. Your healthcare system simply cannot cope with the load of the niggers that arrived last year.
It can, and it will. Healthcare systems don't get destroyed overnight
>>66877340
>loose
Lose is a fucking four letter god damn word. How the fuck do you literal retards misspell this shit? Loose is your asshole lose is your life.
> community based taxation paying for community utilized product is not socialist
Kek
>>66877941
>>66878095
>>66878162
Completely missed the point
>>66878362
EU had to bail Greek banks, else Austrian/German/french/Spanish banks would be fucked
>>66878362
Its also the same country thats going to elect the exact same people who quadrupled the debt in the next election after already doing it twice before.
Greeks might just be the most people on this planet.
>>66878633
This is actually common amoung all western democracies. It happens in my country. And yours. And America. And Britain, Frnace Germany...
>>66875880
Everything you just listed is a form of a socialist benefit to society.
The only one worth bitching about is social security
>>66878422
>Let's add 1.2 million people in 1 year
>expect another 2 million the next year
>total of 3.5ish million
>that is a net increase of 4% of the population
>these sandniggers are riddled with diseases
...kek
No healthcare system can withstand a surge of that size, Germany and Austria have both been trapped in austerity measures regarding their hospitals and a noticeable lack of doctors.
>>66878574
>what is a percentage of a volume
Bailing the Greek banks doesn't suddenly lead to exponential growth of debt.
>>66878633
The Greeks have a history of taking a system and driving it into the ground. They've gone through basically all functional governmental systems imaginable.
