>Russia violates a sovereign nation's airspace
>said nation shoots down the intruder
>Russia saying they dindu nuffing
>/pol/ crying just like the mothers of dindus
>/pol/ crying because a country actually had the balls to punch Putin instead of taking it in the ass
I'm just glad /pol/ is finally exposed as being filled with pussies and hypocrites
>>56600000
dem digits, can't argue with that
It's been proven they weren't in kebab airspace, you meme shitlord.
>>56600000
Turks are scum though.
>>56600081
give proofs
fuck turkey.
it's a rogue nation that sponsors terrorism. it doesn't deserve to have its air space respected.
>>56600081
Post your irrefutable proof then
>>56600000
this
retards on this board don't understand how actual politics works
>>56600000
prove they were in turkish airspace you shitheaded frogposter.
>>56600000
whoa
you just broke /pol/
you're now in command
what do?
>>56600081
Not trying to b8 anyone, I'm just not well informed in these kind of issues.
If the plane crossed Turkey's airspace after being warned, and the plane is then intercepted within Syria's airspace, is that not a breach of international law by Turkey?
I guess what I'm asking is if a country is allowed to chase planes outside their own airspace.
>>56600000
>plane flys for 10s in turkey in a wide arc turn
>better shoot it down
>russia going to start bombing turkey and NATO will revoke their membership and Russia will take their place
>>56600348
do you actually think a 3rd world shithole like Turkey would attack a superpower for no reason?
>>56600000
When your a national super power, little things like turkey's airspace don't matter.
>>56600141
>>56600233
>>56600396
Here you go faggots. That Turkish radio operator must have been an auctioneer to rattle off 10 warnings.
>>56600522
>>56600458
>Russia
>superpower
Russia is clucked by the west atm
>>56600000
What a waste of quints.
also
>siding with kebabs over Russia
What the fuck is wrong with you?
>>56600539
the post assumes they only warned them while they were in Turkish air space and not when they were approaching it.
stop being retarded, they obviously warned them prior to entering it
>>56600400
Since Russia has such a good track record with shoot downs. At least it was a military plane ffs.
See: KAL 007.
VIDed as civilian, navi lights on, lit it up anyways.
>>56600522
>Hurrrr multiple radio operators couldn't have sent warnings
I'm not saying either side is right or wrong but the plane flew into Turkish airspace without prior permission, and most likely received multiple warnings
>>56600679
>KAL 007
>1983
>2015
Wonder if there have been an tech advancements and changes inside of Russia
>>56600824
basically no
>>56600212
>murrica
>accuses others of supporting terrorism
>like they didn't invent and arm EVERY MUSLIM TERROR ORGANIZATION EVER
>>56600000
FUCK OFF ANGLO SCUM
Erdogan vs. Putin
Nothing of value was lost
>>56600000
quints dont lie
>>56600655
Prior to entering a little over mile and a half sliver of Turkey? 10-15 seconds to shoot down a fighter jet? There was no reason to shoot it down since it posed no threat to Turkey.
>>56600212
>that sponsors terrorism
The ironing in this post
>>56600000
I will voice this politely out of respect for quads:
Shooting someone inside your borders is a defensive act.
Crossing another country's borders to kill someone who just violated yours but left again is an offensive act.
NATO doesn't apply for offensive acts.
Countries can have border guards. If they see someone crossing and leaving again, they cannot go into the other country to arrest or kill that person.
>>56601003
>There was no reason to shoot it down since it posed no threat to Turkey
Then why did they shoot it down
>>56600443
>implying Turkey, like all mudshit countries, aren't myopic as all fuck
Mudslimes cannot into foresight, all they know is allah hu ackbar and suicide bombing.
BASED CHECKEM
>>56601003
>There was no reason to shoot it down since it posed no threat to Turkey.
If you don't uphold your sovereignty then what's the point?
>>56601182
They were fighting their allies, the fucking cancer that is anything native to syria
>>56600000
These quints don't lie.
Putin's adolescent fanbase can go fuck themselves.
>>56601129
It's quints, not quads
>>56600443
Turkey had a reason. They were butthurt because Russia was hitting 'ethnic turks' in Syria.
>>56601003
>There was no reason to shoot it down since it posed no threat to Turkey.
This is kek reasoning and you know very well you wouldn't apply it to your own country.
Russia has done this shit to
>Portugal:
http://uk. reuters .com/article/2014/10/31/uk-nato-portugal-russia-idUKKBN0IK1TD20141031
>UK:
http://news. sky .com/story/1550997/raf-intercepts-russian-jets-near-uk-airspace
>Sweden:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3091516/Sweden-scrambles-fighter-jets-intercept-two-Russian-bombers-entering-airspace-provocative-Scandinavian-nation-call-obvious-signal-outside-world.html
And they also entered our airspace much like they did in Turkey. If they did this shit to the United States your country would freak. Don't be a hypocrite. They had it coming.
>>56601182
They are emboldened by NATO support.
>>56601236
Why doesn't every Baltic NATO country shoot down Russian planes when they violate their airspace. The fact is that there were Turkmen brigades on the Syria side of the border who told those Turks in that little sliver that there was a Russian jet coming through. Then those same Turkmen in Syria shot and killed the pilots as they parachuted down. Savages.
If any faggot from /pol/ was POTUS the American public would be absolutely fucked considering how much they kiss his ass.
Not that I want WWIII or trust muzzie fucking shits but give it a fucking rest /pol/.
>>56601182
Turkey has been pushing for a no-fly zone in northern Syria. They are probably testing out the russian reaction and when none comes they will have proven to rest of NATO that imposing a no-fly zone is a low risk endevour.
Mark my words thats what they'll suggest at the NATO meeting that starts in 45 minutes.
However most of NATO is pretty tired of Turkey by now, all they do is give NATO bad press and silently give aid to various terrorist and opposition groups in syria. Like we all know ISIS oil is shipped through turkey.
>>56601416
Then why don't you beg NATO to shoot a patriot missile at a Russian jet? It's a needless escalation by the Turks who are very informed as to what Russia is doing.
>>56600000
All I see are "WWIII is happening" posts though.
>>56601447
>Why doesn't every Baltic NATO country shoot down Russian planes when they violate their airspace
they should because Russia won't do shit as we're seeing here.
No wars have been started over a plane being shotdown.
>>56600000
Just.... Cant argue whit this
>>56601182
Russia has been buzzing around fighting not-ISIS for weeks now, and the Turks had told them they weren't having any more of that shit.
Russian pilots clearly buy into that RUSSIA STRONK memery and figured "fuck your airspace" and apparently didn't realize their shit-generation aircraft aren't radar invisible, and that Putin's stupid dick waggling doesn't grant them magic invulnerability to surface-to-air missiles.
>>56600679
And see Iran Air Flight 655 you retarded neocon faggot.
>>56600926
easy there Gunther, put down the beer and go back to sleep
>>56600081
DEY
DIN
DU
NUFFIN
Agreed. Turkey is based. The neocon kiddies here will continue to suck Putin's dick though.
>>56601615
I think you mean that the US has been buzzing around for a year not fighting ISIS. Russia has done more to ISIS in a month than we've done since this whole shitstorm started.
>>56601447
>Why doesn't every Baltic NATO country shoot down Russian planes when they violate their airspace.
Because we have no proper air defense. The NATO fighters do intercept them and there would be public support to shoot them down. We're just scared because we're too small. But the right thing to do would be to shoot them down much like you would shoot an intruder in your house, except a nation is a house for millions of people and it's much more serious. Doing what Russians do is rejecting another country's sovereignty and that deserves an appropriate reaction.
>>56601715
Do you honestly believe this?
>>56600679
Don't forget MH17.
one of the pilots died
http://www.startribune.com/report-turkey-shoots-down-warplane-over-airspace-intrusion/353130521/
Also
>all these Russian planes going down
Not so fun on the receiving end.
>>56600000
glorious quints tell us the secrets to slav removal
>>56601529
They still flew in over Turkish airspace and they had a right to shoot it down, needlessly or not then i dont think Russia will make that mistake again.
>>56601751
Also Russia is a nuclear powerhouse run by alcoholic thugs.
So a certain amount of caution is called for.
Turks have balls to be sure.
>>56600000
Truth be told I don't care if they did violate it.
Turkish government supports ISIS, and Al Nusra front. They arm the """"""""moderate"""""""" Syrian rebels.
I hope they get nuked to fucking shit and expelled from NATO.
>>56601776
Why wouldn't I? ISIS is a bunch of Nike wearing hajis who have AK47s and Toyota pickup trucks. We've let them pump out oil and let them drive it off to sell it to who knows who just until very recently. We haven't done anything productive in Syria.
>Turkey literally broke the Geneva Convention
Woah mama.
>>56600000
I have a lot of problems with your post, but i can't argue with those quints
>>56601690
Neocons hate Russia you dumb libshit.
>>56601925
Fuck off, your people are vile and your country is a joke. I hope you'll be out of NATO soon enough.
>>56601964
Every major power, including the Russians, is arming some crazy ass Mudslime army atm.
>>56600000
The Russian plane appears to fly over a tiny sliver of Turkey. However the map is misleading, as Turkey unilaterally extended its border 5 miles into Syria for a "security buffer", which this map shows as the border. But the real internationally recognized border is 5 miles to the north. This is why Turkey insists Russia violated its airspace while Russia insists their plane was in Syria. Regardless of which side of the map line the Russian plane was on, it was clearly on a path that was not a threat to Turkey at all. And Turkey is supposedly on the side against the terrorists! This makes Turkey's shooting down of the aircraft an over-reaction and a dangerous escalation intended to send a message that Russia should stay well clear of Northern Syria where the US backed ISIS has retreated.
Read more: WHAT REALLY HAPPENED | The History The US Government HOPES You Never Learn! http://whatreallyhappened.com/#ixzz3sQHFQvOC
>>56601873
and now the rebels are firing on Russian helicopters
this might be a habbening after all
>>56600000
stop arming terrorists
>>56602061
And Turks are one of the worst offenders when it comes to extremist mudshits. They are disgusting Islamists.
So I truly hope they get glassed and if I was POTUS I would assist Russia in doing so and make sure they get kicked out of NATO.
>>56602053
>I hope you'll be out of NATO soon enough.
>Retards thinking that a country would be thrown out of NATO for attacking a Russian aircraft violating airspace during war.
You really ought to google NATO.
>>56600000
QUINTS OF TRUTH
>>56600000
id argue against you, but i dont have quints
>>56600000
Waste of digits.
1 8 S E C O N D S
8
S
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C
O
N
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>>56600000
nice numbers achmed
>>56601683
DEY WUZ JUST TAKIN A SHORTCUT
>>56601490
Why would they push for a no-fly zone in nothern Syria?
They have fighter jets over nothern syria themselves.
>>56600000
The jet was shot down a km away from the border.
>>56602183
It's a good thing you are only jockeying to be the shift manager of your Taco Bell then.
Turkey created a buffer zone inside Syria they so can give Isis safe passage, if someone bombs the militants they are attacking "Turkish" territory.
Reports that a militia group shot the parachuting pilots dead.
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/669161765817700352
>>56602272
But he was warned five times, anon! There is no excuse!
http://strawpoll.me/6089578
RUSSIA or NATO
>>56602302
Trump soon libshit.
>>56600000
Quints speak the truth!
>>56602263
A no-fly zone doesn't mean YOU can't fly there.
>>56600000
>we warned them 10 times goys!
they were in your airspace for 60 seconds you fucking faggots. i cant wait until you get nuked
>>56600000
Take my vote, sir.
>>56601447
Because the west likes passive-aggression. It helps holding their hypocritical mask in one piece.
>all the retarded libtards itt defending an islamist government
fully support putin
>>56600000
This is the worst fucking get of all time. Is this what it feels like to be c.ucked?
>>56602263
Sorry I perhaps frazed it wrong. Its a "safe-zone" they want. Just so they can keep inserting support for the terrorists and their own proxy groups don't loose, as they are appearing to be doing now.
Btw anyone know if the Russians have kept the bombings up after the downing of this jet?
>>56601927
I agree. Their whole foreign policy is based on being a dangerous drunk thug with an axe who you run away from at all costs and I'm glad someone finally called them out for it. Turks protected their airspace and there's nothing wrong with it.
From our experience, if they had let Russia get away with that 20 second breach, there would have been 5 more in the future. Next time, they won't fuck around. It's ironic the savage mudslimes under a dictatorship still beat Russia at democracy.
>>56602302
This tьh
>>56600824
Doesn't matter when you're bombing goat herders
>>56602356
There is no reason to vote NATO if this is the reason for WWIII.
>>56600000
Because we told turkey to shoot them down....
>>56602488
I have to imagine that the Russians have been fucking around in that area for some time fighting non-ISIS troops to provoke this kind of reaction from the Turks, who aren't known to be loose cannons with their surface-to-air weaponry.
>>56602100
the old adage rings true. Never trust a Turk.
>>56601564
>>56601564
Plenty of wars have been started over boats sinking, wouldn't be the biggest leap to start a war over a plane
>>56602100
Yeah, there's that fact and the fact that the intercepting Turkish jets were already on an intercept route well before the Russians crossed their "border"
This obviously shows intent to shoot them down, especially after the Turks crossed into syria with their own interceptors to shoot down the Russians.
Even more interesting is that No Fly Zones always have a soft border of sorts. There's usually a few km of wiggle room because. Honestly, you can't see that kind of shit from the air. Flying at 1km/h makes it hard to tell where the fuck an arbitrary border drawn in the sand is unless clearly marked. And since Turkey unofficially expanded said border...
>>56601363
This. There is literally no reason to have affection for Russia unless you've never been exposed to actual Russia
Putin is clever. Turkey is a shithole and shouldn't be in NATO. He knows that we will hesitate to come to Turkey's aid.
>>56602356
You'll be on whatever side your country is on
>>56602642
This was not the first warning as well, seeing as turks shot down russian drones fucking around in their airspace as well.
Russia knew fully fucking well what it was trying to do, and got what it deserved.
>>56602717
Not really, they have been excuses for starting a war, given as a Casus Belli, but the true reason for starting the war are often much greater.
Austria-hungary didn't really do it over Franz-Ferdinand, they had tried to start a war with Serbia long before that, the murder was just a good excuse.
>>56600824
Just enough to shoot down mh17 last year it seems
>>56600000
Quints say it all. Thank you greatest ally.
>>56602768
I'm not seeing where Turkey needs aid against Russia at this point.
Do they need us to handle Putin's angry letter?
>>56602738
I'd much rather support Russian than Islamist shitskins any day, libshit.
>>56600655
They were warned at 10k. Fighters were scrambled at 5k. The distance between the 5 k and Syria on the other side is 8k max. This gives the Turks 45 seconds to scramble, lock and fire if they wanted to get it in their airspace, assuming the F-16 were sitting hot on the runway. The missiles were almost certainly fired from Syrian airspace, where the Turks shouldn't legally have been in the first pace.
>>56602876
Fuck off Turk you go to hell and you die!
>>56602488
Come on, there is no excuse for this. They were in and out of Turkish airspace for less than half a fucking minute. The Turks were issuing warnings for 5 fucking minutes before they ended two lives (because, you see, gunning down the airplane just wasn't enough). Russia posed no threat. They were arrogant, yes, but what they did was for practical reasons. If you care to disregard your autism for a second, you'll see that this is a clear case of the Turks overreacting. There needn't be two deaths.
>>56602898
This, fuck turkey, great unwashed human filth
>all the fucking liberals ITT saying "putin is le ebil nazi guys!"
>>56600000
stop arming terrorists
Russia dindu nuffin, they wuz good boyz.
>>56602897
If Turkey requests NATO help...IF they request it, we're supposed to help. Of course, they're fucking retarded and we don't want to. And Putin knows this.
>>56602859
You play too many Paradox games kid.
>>56600000
If they breached Turkish airspace and ignored warnings, they got what they deserved. The Turks have made it clear in the last couple of years that they won't abide that kind of thing.
>>56603016
They arm theirs, we arm ours.
Proxy wars are nothing new.
>>56600607
>What the fuck is wrong with you
It's called cυckism, also there's correlation between people who think turkey dindunuffins and people who think it's normal for "moderate" terrorists to eat hearts.
>>56602940
exactly
>>56600000
Turkey is, at best, acting as a fence for oil that ISIS pulls out of the ground. Fuck Turkish airspace. I don't give a fuck if Turkish airspace was violated or not. Turkey needs to be bombed right alongside with Saudi Arabia.
>>56602940
This is what happens in any part of the world where you fly over the sovereign airspace of a nation in a shooting war.
The Russians have shot down a lot of planes for less of an infraction in situations that weren't a hot war.
In fact, this would be a pretty typical reaction from Russia in the exact same circumstances, which you would admit if you weren't a Putin cock-worshipper.
>but guuuuuys Putin is an evil nazi guys!
>>56602470
This doesn't make any sense at all. How would shooting down a russian fighter jet in turkish airspace (which is the narrative the turks are tring to push) make a "safe-zone" in nothern syria?
>>56602725
Fighters take off and systems activate far before a potential enemy enters your airspace. When Russian fighters provoke us, the NATO jets intercept and escort them until they go away. Mind you this happens when they're in the neutral airspace, which is close to our border, not our actual airspace. Same has happened to many other European nations.
Even these incidents are treated very seriously. They have breached our airspace with cargo planes for a few minutes about a dozen times or so near Vaindloo island. It amazes me that the Russian propaganda is so strong some people are actually willing to neglect or downplay the concept of national sovereignty. If you justify breaching another country's airspace you are truly a hypocritical retard who deserves to live a miserable life in a shitty third-world dictatorship.
Airspaces are violated all the time, especially by Turkey, and the civilized response is to escort them since there's obviously no genuine threat, not sparking a global crisis because of some bullshit.
>>56602940
> half a minute
try less than 10 seconds, if on slow speed.
"I calculate that each “incursion” over Turkish territory would have lasted about 10 seconds, assuming the plane was flying slowly at 600mph. That Turkey shot down the plane for this is madness, and absolutely indefensible."
>>56603067
They'd have to invoke article 5, it's only been done once before.
>>56602488
>Turks protected their airspace and there's nothing wrong with it.
Shooting someone inside your airspace is a defensive act.
Going out of your airspace to shoot someone who has violated it and left again is an offensive act.
If this happend with border guards, say someone went from Estonia into Russia and Russian border guards crossed over into Estonia to kill them, you would have considered it an act of war.
>>56603079
And you failed basic history and international relations kid.
>>56600000
>comparing a Russian plane spending literally 16 seconds in Turkish airspace
>to an entire life of crime and violence committed by a dindu
Makes sence bruh...
>>56602388
18 seconds actually
>>56603243
cause russians were apparently bombing villages with turkish citizens
>>56603097
>If they breached Turkish airspace and ignored warnings, they got what they deserved.
It's not "if". They did. But they did so for practical reasons. Also, you have to consider that the Turks can't be trusted with border control seeing how they have financial dealings with ISIS and the depth of their relation not being fully known. Seriously, fuck the Turks, even if this was just another Putin mindgame.
>>56603305
I'm trying to be generous here.
>>56603180
He's a thuggish President-for-life of a shitty nuclear armed oil-dystopia who sends militias, assassins and illegal arms into neighboring countries to get his way.
He's not the magical Prince of your mythical White Paradise, you goddamn manchild.
>>56603067
Only if they have been attacked, which is going to be a hard sell.
>>56603097
Internet and media have already painted Turkey a bad guy here and all the murky shit Turkey is doing with IS is not going to help ether.
I hope there will be some repercussions towards the Turkey.
>>56603097
plane went down in syria. turkey has something coming. probably a long range bombardment that the west wont talk about and the turks will be to ashamed to admit
I think putin is a fascist, and last thing we need are fascists bothering our beloved turkish allies
>>56600000
Wait I thought they were over Syria when the T*rks shot them down.
>>56603385
>They did. But they did so for practical reasons
And they got shot down. For practical reasons.
>>56600000
>>56603174
Turkey isn't in a shooting war.....
And planes shot down over russia, even the times they've shot down civilian airliners have been alot longer than what? 15 seconds. And where preceded with warning shots.
>>56603273
No they aren't. Your country was shitting its pants when Russian jets flew in the neutral airspace near your border. You would probably betray your homeland for internet Putin memes. Pathetic kek.
Honestly putin is a fun meme, but i want to see turks roasted alive in front of my eyes, i hate the goddamn turks almost worse than i hate jews
>>56603382
I don't really understand that logic
>You bombed A
>We need a safe-zone in B
>>56603414
And yet Obongo arms all the "moderate" mudslime rebels who turn out to be islamists.
Fuck off retarded libshit. Pot shouldn't be calling the kettle black.
>>56603581
Oh well, it's ok to shoot down civilian passenger planes if you give WARNING SHOTS.
nm then.
>>56603527
Someone should add Democracy to that.
>>56603265
>Mind you this happens when they're in the neutral airspace, which is close to our border
Irrelevant - neutral airspace exists only over the sea. There is no neutral airspace between two countries. The border in the air follows the ground with no neutrality.
>If you justify breaching another country's airspace you are truly a hypocritical retard who deserves to live a miserable life in a shitty third-world dictatorship.
You seem like a death cult member. The real issue here is that Turkey crossed over into another country to kill someone who had previously violated their airspace.
>>56603243
Because Russia will downplay it and we probably won't see more reactions from them.
Which would demonstrate that a safe-zone is doable and russia wont do anything about it. (except complain)
>>56603174
If you really think so, then I pity you. If a US aircraft was cruising past Portugal illegally, you can bet your obese ass that we would do fucking nothing. Law is fucking nothing when you're up against brute force.
>>56603526
>And they got shot down. For practical reasons.
Stop being factitious and be frank for a moment: they gunned down the plane and killed the pilots after the fact. While in fucking Syria.
I don't get it, doesn't /pol/ want to kill all the muslims? Why wouldn't /pol/ want Russia to bomb the shit out of them?
>>56603467
>a long range bombardment
Putin isn't retarded.
>>56600000
It was a disgusting act.
First of all
>Russia was in Syrian airspace
>Turkey shot the guys parachuting out of the plane.
>American sponsored "rebels" shot down the Russian helicopter coming to their aid.
This is an act of war.
And just showcases that the US and NATO are supporting ISIS.
Keep living in the land of the slave, ameridumb.
>>56600000
>russian jet fighters shot down by dirty turks while bombing ISIS
Fucking disgusting turkish pigs. May Putin annihilate this fucking shitty excuse for a terrorist nation. May he drink the blood of every man, woman and child.
>>56603599
You know that you're attempting to justify that Turkey goes into another country's airspace to murder two people because they previously went into theirs.
Maybe you're just a psycho.
>>56600539
they began warnign the plane at 15km from the border, per international protocol.
>>56603343
You're right on this, however it wouldn't be surprising if the plane was shot down over the Turkish airspace by the escort or maybe the rockets were fired over Turkish airspace and caught up with them in Syria. We don't know that yet, I think. And 4chan isn't having that discussion anyway. A lot of people seem to think "it's okay if it's 10 seconds".
>>56600000
Russia sacrified those planes by ordering the pilots to fly like retards so that it could get a good reason to start a war. Russia loves to sacrifice/shoot their own units and blame the other side for it.
>>56603079
I know about the WWI part im talking abolut you autistically using the term "Casus Belli" in real conversation.
>>56603626
They didn't "turn out" to be islamists, they defected, because they were cowards, and also all kebab are shit. Lesson learned, don't trust the muzzies to fight against jihad
>>56603724
That doesn't really make any sense mate
>Look they didn't start WW3 because we shot down a plane in turkish airspace (which is what the turks are saying)
>They totally won't mind if we enforce a "safe-zone" (wtf is that) in Syria
>>56603835
they did that to you senpai, didn't they?
>>56603626
I'm not claiming Obama as some righteous hero-king, the way you do while swallowing Putin's thug-jizz.
America, Russia and China all arm pretty much anyone with a credit card. Or did you think Iran cobbled together all those weapons themselves?
Seriously, you should pack up and move to White Russia Paradise. Don't mind that they have 10 times the muslim population as the USA with half the total population.
>>56603754
>Russia was in Syrian airspace
>Turkey shot the guys parachuting out of the plane.
Neither of these are true retard.
>mfw keks are angry because their siberian dicks melted
>topkek.jpg
pic related its my turkish keks
>>56600279
>retards on this board don't understand how actual politics works
I guess according to you amerifats, it works that the US can do whatever the fuck it wants and if anyone says anything different, they need to be murked out of existence.
>>56603659
I didn't claim it was ok to shot down civilian airliners, just that you have a ladder of escalation in these instances, which kebab of course will ignore.
>>56600458
>national super power
A super power in your own nation?
https://youtu.be/-Cdkf3Xx3nw
>Dead pilot, shot while parachuting
>>56600458
tell it to vietnamese superfarmers
>>56603904
Just because that's where you learned it doesn't mean everyone else did too.
>>56603932
yes
>>56600400
What would you want to happen if Russia flew it plans in your territory after giving them a warning and them not responding? In that situation you either shoot down the plan or just take it up the ass. If Turkey didn't shoot down that plane Putin would just fly planes over Turkish air space all the time and you'll start seeing 'Russian minority rebels' taking away vital Turkish ports.
>>56603950
This guy's got a point, most Western countries funded the Mujahideen in the Russian-Afghan war, and they later developed into Al-Qaeda
>>56603797
Honestly I would rather encourage that than put up with Russia's demonstrations any longer. The circling that is seen on the radar is also good proof they were asking for it.
>>56602053
>second largest contributor to nato
>would get kicked for returning russki agression
pls
>>56604026
Yep, riddled with bullet holes.
Shitty video proves it.
>>56602898
I'd much rather see both burn. Russia is the exact same shit.
>>56600000
Or we maybe support Putin instead of kebab like you
>>56602388
Is violating an airspace a fucking joke?
Doesn't matter, 10 seconds or minutes, you don't violate it you fucking retard
>>56604308
Well, Sweden will certainly tip the scales in a Nato-Russia conflict, to be sure.
>>56604345
Russia has certainly never treated it as a joke in the past.
>>56604140
you anon are my new hero.
>all these assravaged Ruskeeaboos
Fuck off back to leddit, cvcks. At least over there you can jerk yourself silly about how "kurds are bro-tier" and dumb shit like that.
Good on Turkey for enforcing their airspace.
>>56604372
Sweden will declare neutrality and try it's hardest to look like a hard target, Meanwhile arming the NATO side.
Like any other conflict
>>56603950
All it boils down to is this:
I'd much rather support Russians than Islamist pooskins any fucking day.
>>56604345
Russia do this all the time. It's a tactic used to scope a nations jet scrambling defenses. It's not like Russia just did the first air space violation in the past 100 years.
America used to do it a lot back in the 70s.
Nobody usually shoots because they don't want to start a fucking war over a tactic that all modern armed forces undertake.
>>56604152
What do you contribute besides millions of dollars to Daesh? You haven't been relevant since the beginning of the warsaw pact.
>>56603908
>all kebab is shit
Exactly why I hope Russia nukes the fuck out of t*rkroaches
>EITHER LEAV OR WE SHOOT U!!!
That's such a binary thinking, for Christ's sake. What a banal way to start the WW3.
>>56604538
And what does your support amount to, realistically?
>>56600000
>implying 2.5 miles means jack shit when you're flying 300 miles per hour
>implying a pilot would be flying in and out Turkish airspace 10 times in 5 minutes
>implying Turkey isn't manipulating NATO to drag the US into WWIII so we'll take out Assad for them
>>56604345
I don't expect someone who doesn't understand the basics of proper human waste disposal to phantom what the appropriate response should be to such an event, honestly. But then again, someone who literally shits up his own country would hardly understand the value of a human life, however slav it is.
>>56604630
Uncommon
>>56604152
Supporting ISIS should have been enough to kick Turkey out of NATO killing someone who is activly fighting ISIS is just an extra reason to kick Turkey out.
>>56604665
Nothing. All I can do is vote for Trump and buy more guns so I can fight back against the shitskins Obongo and libshits want to import.
>>56604498
Thanks senpai
>>56604588
>Russia do this all the time. It's a tactic used to scope a nations jet scrambling defenses. It's not like Russia just did the first air space violation in the past 100 years.
And occasionally someone shoots something down.
And nobody starts a war over it, just like this time.
>Implying Turkey didn't change their border to make it look like the plane entered it. Seriously go look up the Turkish border and then look at their map. The crossed area was a 'security buffer' they put in place without any authority.
>>56603987
kind of, yes
>>56604630
>What a banal way to start the WW3.
They started ww1 by shotting a dude
>>56604345
Turkey violates greek airspace all the time
also obligatory poo in loo
>>56601622
Just because the US did it too, doesn't make it any less reprehensible.
However, it could be argued that the Russians were the only ones to visually identify and confirm their target as a civilian airliner.
Dipshit gung-ho captain just shot a dot on a screen.
>>56602100
Dubs is right
>>56604508
Should Greece start shooting down Turkish fighters violating its airspace too? Turkey is probably the worst offender of the air.
>>56600000
Russians violate our airspace all the time. All superpowers do that shit. If we shot down their shit and got invaded, you faggots would be all over us going "lel stupid uppity Finland was asking for it, this shit happens all the time anyway"
All these people saying "it posed no threat, Turkey didn't need to shoot it down!" don't realize that if today Turkey would have allowed them to get away with this, tomorrow Russia would send more planes further into Turkey
>>56604665
And the fact that you support an Islamist government which willfilly funds ISIS and extremist Syrian rebels makes you a fucking retard.
Turkey is fucking scum and should be kicked out of NATO.
So a Russian jet was blasted by an American jet I assume. Awesome. Good job Turkey, fuck Russia.
>>56603815
OK. 1m and 30s to decide this plane is a danger for national security and should be eliminated. On top of this, 15s between launch of the missiles and explosion. Everything else –attack on Syrian ground (airspace).
Turkey explained that they were warning plane for 5 minutes. Russian pilots decided to go along the border and then just hop over it. but turkish military radar readings do not support this theory as well.
PS All calculations are given for slowest speed while the top speed will be 5 times of this.
It wasn't even in Turkish airspace, Turkey expanded what they call their border with 8km as a "security buffer" unilaterally in 2012.
>>56604681
We're trying to take out assad anyway.
Russia wont do shit against Turkey.
They flew through Turkish airspace twice.
They were flying a holding pattern, and after the first pass the Turks told them not to enter Turkish airspace again. When they did, they were shot down.
I don't know what to believe and who's right: my country or shitskins. But I surely know who's gonna be fucked hard.
>>56600000
Well Turkey is in NATO, NATO is against ISIS, Russia is against ISIS, so de facto NATO and Russia are allies in this regions, so air space should be open.
But turkey is a traitor that helps ISIS, bombs kurds that are fighting ISIS, shoots down plane that are bombing ISIS. Turkey is traitor to NATO
>>56605111
Cry about it.
>>56604943
yes we should, we've been calling it for years now
>>56605297
Go get em russbro
>>56605317
>Russia is against ISIS,
Russia is pro-Al Assad. And that is all.
>>56605297
Fuck them hard, Dimitri.
>>56604709
>poortogal can't even read name
>>56604831
This, If Ukraine didn't start world war, how can this?
>>56604869
How bad is the relationship between Turkey and Russia as compared to Russia and Greece?
>>56605102
But they didn't just "hop over" it.
Turkey expanded its borders unofficially and their new borders aren't officially recognized by anyone else but Turkey and maybe a handful of others.
According to Russian maps given to the pilots, viewed by their HQ and probably generally in Syria itself, they're still seeing the actual international border which is still farther to the north.
Russia is in the right here. Even if NATO does somehow sanction the new unofficial borders after the fact, there's still the issue that Turkish jets crossed over said border into Syria to shoot them down, violating their own rules of defense.
>>56600000
>posting a frog
back to reddit
tfw eternal anglo
>>56605297
Remove Kebab hard, Dimitri.
>>56605297
>I don't know what to believe and who's right
i'll give you a clue.. Turks gonna turk. I hope you ruin them.
>>56605263
You're kind of forgetting the part where they actually left Turkish airspace and the Turks went after them above Syrian territory.
You can have border guards, sure.
Your border guards cannot see someone cross and leave and then follow that person to kill them in the neighboring country.
>>56605438
So de facto anti-ISIS and yoy're slowly turning into pro-Assad burger, your country have accepted that he stays in power a bit after the turmoil
>>56602388
>i cant wait until you get nuked
>japan
nippon kekzai
>>56600124
Agreed
Turkey is like a mouth full of shit
>>56600000
>believing a turk to ruin a get
How /pol/ has fallen
>>56605596
>Remove Kebab hard, Dimitri.
Russia contains more Kebab than the USA and half of Europe combined. it's one of the biggest Muslim populations on the planet.
>>56605427
>>56605447
>>56605596
>>56605634
But guys, russian people do not want any war. I swear! We just want peace all over the world and weed legalization. And shrooms.
Peace out and erry day! :)
>>56600000
Oh shut up you cückie monster
>>56605654
That portion of Turkey is like 2 miles wide.
They could have easily been shot down in Turkey and crashed in Syria.
russia is an irrelevant country trying to appear relevant
>>56600926
At least our country is still predominantly white.
Actually you know what we don't even need to post that, only:
Merkel.
>Russia fighting one of the most organization in the worlds right now
>Putting planes and pilots' lives on the line to stop this evil
>Randomly stumble across Turk territory, no threat posed
>Turks trying to look badass shoot down their plane, 2 men who could be at home with their families were fighting terrorists and face this end
Very edge, turkfags
>>56605297
FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
>>56605989
Worst part is, pilots ejected and turkmeni brigade executed them on the ground. Like they could have handed the pilots back... There was no need for an execution.
>>56605468
>Russia and Greece?
Turkey and Greece
>>56605840
>show me a random map
>Russia contains more Kebab than the USA and half of Europe combined. it's one of the biggest Muslim populations on the planet.
Biggest than Muslim Countries? yeah right
Stop Watching Fox News Americunt
>>56605989
>Fighting ISIS
kek
>Russian fighters "randomly stumbling"
double-kek
>Shooting at Russian fighters to "look badass"
So many keks.
Thanks Brazil.
>>56600000
>Turkey shoots down Russian aircraft.
>Plane and pilot crash in Syria.
Nope
>>56601982
There have been multiple, MULTIPLE SEAL/SWCC operations against Isis ever since they privately formed their sand parade.
>>56602100
Turkey is butthurt, 'cause they have had importing cheap oil from ISIS for a long time. Also, ISIS are fighting Kurds =>Turkey has a deep conflict with them and ISIS are basically helping fighting them. Now Russia is bombing the fuck out of terrorists and that is non profitable to Turkey. I don't think that destroying that plane is a big concern. Everybody are exaggerating things at this point.
Ohhhh I can't wait for turks to get fucked, my flag speaks for itself.
>>56606279
Hey Ivan, will you bomb those sandniggers?
You'll bomb those sandniggers right?
Thanks..
>>56603983
>eat shit jamal
>>56606126
1 in 7 Russians are Muslim. That map shows the high death rate in white Russia as opposed to the low death rate in Muslim Russia. The birthrate map is even worse.
Russia has 8 times the Muslims as the USA with half the total population.
