>people actually believe what is written in this
Well it is true.
So you are telling me thausands of years ago, when everyone was iliterate and people were generally very cruel, mean to each other and uncaring some common people could write a book full of wisdom and very untraditional for it's time morale rules and laws?
>>56583908
>2015
>Not believing in Christ
Christianity is the religion of Europe
>>56583946
Were you there?
It's literally the word of God.
>>56584266
Were you there when the Earth was created?
No?
Must not be real.
>>56584266
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwc4vjlQxJo
>>56584282
That's the Quran, not the Bible. Get it right.
>>56584194
The bible as you know it was rewritten countless times and it's not as old as you think it is.
>>56583946
>>56584282
There is no good evidence that this is the case, even ignoring supernatural claims.
>>56583908
>shit posting about the bible on a Christian board
Wow, you really have a lot going on in your life. But yeah, suppose you're right, the documented life of God in human form, backed up by thousands of accounts of miraculous deeds which lead to the driving force of European expansion and domination of the world is surely much less believable than the Atheism fairy causing nothing to explode into everything and then magically form sentient life for no reason.
Go back to Reddit.
>>56584321
were you there when they taught us carbon dating in chemistry class? or is that not part of burger education
dumb motherfucker
>>56584321
There is still proof of the earth retard.
>>56584321
I was actually, its a simulation
>>56583908
>People actually believe what is written in this in 2015 when evolution is a fact
>>56584421
they taught us burger dating
>>56584424
>God coming to earth, performing miracles including both raising the fucking dead and then raising himself from the dead does not count as proof
>some fedora tier shit nihilism about nothing exploding into everything for no reason even though scientists can't agree on the cause or what happened before it without inventing Stargate SG1 level plot devices for it to be possible without a loving God behind it is fine though
Atheists just cannot into Logic.
>>56584406
>getting this triggered
Did someone invade your safe space?
>>56584369
This is true
We have four or five authors for the Pentateuch
Two or three Isaiahs
Plagiarism in both OT (Zechariah, Jeremiah) and NT (Jude, 2nd Peter)
The bulk of the OT is post-Exilic, hell Daniel is ~165BC.
Gospels are not written by eyewitnesses, and date to many years after the death of Jesus
Most of them overinterpret and decontextualize OT prophecies to apply to Jesus
Half of the epistles attributed to Paul were not by him, and some may have been intentional forgeries
>>56584656
>God coming to earth, performing miracles including both raising the fucking dead and then raising himself from the dead
The standard by which you accept this evidence is so low you would have to accept the Koran, Vedas, and countless other ancient scriptures as fact as well.
>>56584194
It was written during the Roman Empire, during which time the Stoics lived. It was written after the works of Manichaeism, Mithraism, Zoroastrianism, Buddhism, and Hinduism, which all stress compassion to a greater extent. That's how social contracts work.
OP, I learned a long time ago that you can't reason with the religious. It's a very peculiar delusion, but one that helps them function and does little harm to society at large. Think trannies; they are about as harmful and just about as mentally ill. You can only show them the hard facts and hope that they get it. Trust me, they won't, nine times out of ten, but that one person you sucessfully helped to educate? Worth it.
>>56584636
Oh my god you killed me kek
>>56584424
So the Earth itself proves it's own existence.
Yet the Bible was just a story made up for no reason?
Or there was a reason? If so, what do you think the reason was?
>>56584421
I was, and beyond. Carbon based dating is complete shit as it's half life is only 5,700~ years, which means we can't accurately date anything beyond that measure of time.
We use radiometric dating, which oddly enough, points to an Earth with a much younger age.
>>56584453
Even harder to believe than Genesis.
A simulation by who or what?
>>56584553
Evolution isn't even close to a fact you loser.
We have never witnessed any living organism "evolve" into something completely different. As in a different species than before.
>>56584922
So couple of stoics just decided to make up a religion.
Bunch of stoics just decided to write a story from point of view of Apostacles who hanged out with Jesus?
Who really wrote the damn Bible?
>>56585110
http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/geotime/age.htm
>it's half life is only 5,700~ years, which means we can't accurately date anything beyond that measure of time.
No, it means we can't date anything that's older than about 60,000 years. C14's half-life of 5730 years means *half* of it has decayed, not all of it.
>>56585110
>Carbon based dating is complete shit as it's half life is only 5,700~ years, which means we can't accurately date anything beyond that measure of time.
No you can go to multiples of that. After 10 half lives you are at 1 part in 1000. And beyond carbon there are other radioactive elements you can use with different half lives.
Your stupid and ignorant comment is the kind of thing that makes people thing that the religious are fools.
>>56585155
http://news.rice.edu/2015/10/29/caught-in-the-act-new-wasp-species-emerging-2/
>>56584656
There is absolutely no empirical evidence that Jesus Christ ever existed or performed miracles.
>>56584406
>Christian board
first of all it's a contrarian board full of edge-lords who now claim to be Christian because of le fedora meme
>>56585506
>an actual mythicist
go away you're making the sane atheists look bad
>>56585518
>people on /pol/ are only pretending to be Chrsitians because it's 'cool'
>says the atheist on a Chrisitan board
Kek. You're pretty committed to this delusion. Perhaps /lgbt/ is more your style.
>>56584406
>>Christian board
>>full of hate speach and tranny porn
Yeah....
>>56585425
>>56585489
Yes, that's true my post was misleading.
It does not disregard the fact that it is complete shit, and that we use radio metric dating and that it shows Earth has a much younger age than previously thought.
The ratio of 14C atoms to 12C atoms decreases by a factor of 2 every 5730 years. After 20 half-lives or 114,700 years (assuming hypothetically that earth history goes back that far), the 14C/12C ratio is decreased by a factor of 220, or about 1,000,000. After 1.5 million years, the ratio is diminished by a factor of 21500000/5730, or about 1079. This means that if one started with an amount of pure 14C equal to the mass of the entire observable universe, after 1.5 million years there should not be a single atom of 14C remaining! Routinely finding 14C/12C ratios on the order of 0.1-0.5% of the modern value—a hundred times or more above the AMS detection threshold—in samples supposedly tens to hundreds of millions of years old is therefore a huge anomaly for the uniformitarian framework.
>>56585833
We don't use C14 dating to measure the age of the earth, fagtron. We use several other radioactive isotopes of other elements, all of which converge with almost no margin of error (read the USGS link).
The 'excess' C14 you're talking about is known:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon-14#In_fossil_fuels
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/c14.html
>>56585789
>people on /pol/ are only pretending to be Chrsitians because it's 'cool'
No they are not showing their atheism because being atheist here is UNcool.
Showing your atheism here results in you being spammed with "enlightened" fedorapics. (As if that is ANY argument whatsoever)
>>56584321
We can literally see stars and planets being born everywhere in space but nooooo, God must have made our tiny planet just himself because he loves us so much. So fucking weird logic which only works if magic is real.
Somehow people have a really hard time to let go of religion, much like how teenagers don't want to accept that girls do in fact shit and not fart potpourri and flowers. It's immature and close minded.
>inb4 fedorapics or how I'm ugly or stupid or any other ad hominem argument which will hold no water whatsoever
Believe if you want to believe, just don't spam lies about the earth being 6000 years old because le magic man
>>56585789
Don't know where you discern that I'm an atheist but I also rarely see anyone embracing Christianity. I don't know what's your perception of Christian values but personally I would be cautious to call a board full of racists and fascist who fantasize about killing others "Christian".
>>56584253
> literally living on an island that was a designated prison
> still talking about europe
Go and play with some spiders
>>56583908
most of the not spooky things in these books have been confirmed by historians and archeologists.
shouldn't you be out in the open and prevent being cücked by emus?
>>56586421
Considering you don't appear to know what I am saying I will move on to something else.
Evolution.
Consider a very simple putative organism composed of only 200 integrated and functioning parts, and the problem of deriving that organism by this type of process. The system presumably must have started with only one part and then gradually built itself up over many generations into its 200-part organization. The developing organism, at each successive stage, must itself be integrated and functioning in its environment in order to survive until the next stage. Each successive stage, of course, becomes statistically less likely than the preceding one, since it is far easier for a complex system to break down than to build itself up. A four-component integrated system can more easily "mutate" (that is, somehow suddenly change) into a three-component system (or even a four-component non-functioning system) than into a five-component integrated system. If, at any step in the chain, the system mutates "downward," then it is either destroyed altogether or else moves backward, in an evolutionary sense.
Therefore, the successful production of a 200-component functioning organism requires, at least, 200 successive, successful such "mutations," each of which is highly unlikely. Even evolutionists recognize that true mutations are very rare, and beneficial mutations are extremely rare—not more than one out of a thousand mutations are beneficial, at the very most.
>>56586421
part 1
>>56583908
Good post australia.
I think religion was EXTREMELY important for the development of humankind but now really is the time to call it quits.
>mfw i realized that people think there is an actual god
I always assumed the bible is just about some basic, abstract rules for society.
>>56586326
>>56586421
But let us give the evolutionist the benefit of every consideration. Assume that, at each mutational step, there is equally as much chance for it to be good as bad. Thus, the probability for the success of each mutation is assumed to be one out of two, or one-half. Elementary statistical theory shows that the probability of 200 successive mutations being successful is then (½)200, or one chance out of 1060. The number 1060, if written out, would be "one" followed by sixty "zeros." In other words, the chance that a 200-component organism could be formed by mutation and natural selection is less than one chance out of a trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion! Lest anyone think that a 200-part system is unreasonably complex, it should be noted that even a one-celled plant or animal may have millions of molecular "parts."
>>56586716
There is.
You think the Universe just appeared from nothing?
Doesn't happen.
>>56583908
>people try to discredit this so they can continue to be sinful degenerate fucks
*tips fedora*
>>56586695
>>56586792
old ICR bullshit
Frankly I hate using most of the talk.origins stuff because it's so old, but this argument is just as old so whatever:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/abioprob/abioprob.html
>>56585110
>Or there was a reason? If so, what do you think the reason was?
On May 28, 585 BC, there was a battle between the Medes and the Lydians at the halys river. In the middle of the fighting, the sky turned black. It was a lunar eclipse. Both sides of the battle agreed it was an omen from god and decided to end the fighting.
Why did they come up with this explanation?
To the people of the time, it surely would have seemed to be a miracle. Modern understanding of eclipses has advanced so far that all eclipses, including that one, are accurately predictable. If you have no idea what an eclipse is, how on else do you possibly explain how the sky turned black mid day?
In away, the countless religions from around the world are like science. Really bad science based on outdated evidence. Ways to explain to the people of their times the unexplainable.
>There are people posting on /pol/ right now who aren't agnostic
You're all degenerates.
>>56585155
fucking christfags, can you even into evolutionary timescale
oh right you can't, you think 2000 years ago is ancient
>>56586474
Very much this. Half the posts on this board are calling for the genocide of someone.
>>56586511
>muh orange carrots
>>56587139
The math still stands.
Regardless of age, numbers are numbers.
>>56587186
Which some of the explanations turned out to be absolutely correct and speak about things which couldn't possible be known.
Sure.
>>56587300
It's never been observed you loser.
Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
>>56586695
>since it is far easier for a complex system to break down than to build itself up
Actually, a complex systems has more parts which all each can mutate so its actually more likely for a complex system to evolve without it breaking.
A complex organism can have really big ears or nose and can still survive while a simple organism can't survive a mutation in its core parts because for example a mutation in the heart will cause instant death m a positive mutation however causes a prolonged lifespan and thus more chance at offspringm the system reinforces itself.
Combine this with the earth being bazillionyears old and you can see how simple celled organisms get complex with the years.
This is also found for example in the layers of the rocky mountain. Each layer has the same species (fossilized off course) and the further down you go the simpler these species get. You can also see how these are forefathers as they share features.
And NONE of these different species are found throughout the layers. Each layer has its own species which would mean that at each point in time a different evolution of that specie was alive. This goes against the idea that all the animals already existed at the same time and some were killed by a flood or whatever.
Basically, if all the species existed at the same time we would've found them all in every layer, not different stages (of evolution) as we currently find.
I dunno man I find this evidence pretty compelling in favor of evolution but again: believe what you want. If it makes you happier and a better person who am I to judge right?
>>56587413
A truly stupid picture.
>WW3
>people are still unironically atheshits
Why are your upvots so important for you redditors that you refuse to listen to basic facts
>>56587569
>numbers are numbers
Please don't rely on tautologies if you're not going to read the things I am linking you to.
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/pda/thread.php?topic_id=13826
>>56587777
Quads don't lie
still funny though, a great example of pic related
>>56586969
I believe we don't know what caused the appearance of the universe. Or maybe it just somehow always existed.
We just don't know yet and that's ok. Just because you have an answer doesn't make it right. It's ok to not know things
>>56587799
I don't think you have read the instructions either, do you eat seafood, are you wearing more than one type of fabric now, do you talk to girls on their period?
>>56587889
>It's ok to not know things
A lesson for the ages. Religion victimizes us because of our innate curiosity, ironically enough. It promises us answers and yet prevents us from actually finding them.
>>56587938
This has been explained so oft I refuse to believe that even atheshits are stupid enough to not understand this.
>>56587803
>>numbers are numbers
Unfortunately they are.
>>56587889
It can't have always existed/ We know the Universe will experience "heat death".
Most people use the big bang to explain the Universe, most people consider it to be right.
The big bang was a model created to explain the Universe without God, that is it. A priest even made it up.
>>56585155
what about fucking bacteria & cie? it's the most easy way to see the process
>>56587569
>the chicken or the egg
A lot of the difficulty people have with evolution comes from preconceived ideas about discrete, fixed categories (the 'kinds' of Genesis are a good example). Every animal that exists is transitional, every fossil is a transitional fossil. The rate and 'direction' of change may be completely opaque to us but it's there. Just difficult for us to understand without a great deal of education. People love concreteness and separateness, it helps to organise the world (which is a confusing enough place as it is), but everything is in fact a continuum.
>>56588260
What came first the chicken or the egg?
>>56588184
You can't compare macroevolution to a T-Rex turning into a chicken.
Especially considering all dinosaurs were wiped out. Yet somehow we have a chicken. Which is closest related to a T-rex, which went extinct long before we ever had a chicken....
Makes perfect sense.
>>56587413
Agnostic will get butthurt about this pic but never giving counter-arguments to it
because agnostics are atheist in denial only because of the fear of the fedora meme
But how did three days pass if god created the sun on the fourth day?
>>56588184
>>56588526
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>>56588177
Your copypasta source is misusing and misunderstanding 'numbers'.
>>56588441
Are you retarded or trolling? Chickens are birds, which are descended from raptors, small feathered dinosaurs. Cladistics is a thing you know.
You don't understand the issue of categories, which are human constructs. There are problems of definition here - what is an 'egg' and what is a 'chicken' - these questions would become unanswerable in the traditional way if one were able to see every generation from primitive fish to amphibian to reptile to archosaur to bird.
Our minds gravitate towards necessary and sufficient categories, especially in taxonomy, but these constructs are limited when it comes to accurately encompassing biological similarities and differences.
>>56588441
>evolution acn't be witnessed
>yes it can
>y-y-you can't compare, T-rex turned into chicken !
it's just pretty obvious don't don't even know the most basic elements and you are not even here to argue, just here to contradict everything people can respond.
>>56588177
Yeah the big bang theory is full of holes and the only evidence I know of is the fact that it seems to be expanding today (so reverse time and it all must come together at 1 point?)
But I claim I don't know if its a good theory, were still looking for the answers and I'm sure theologists will instantly say the Bible foretold us things the moments we discover new things about space. I'm sure if we discover alien lifeforms/organisms some holy priests will say the Bible said something about God protecting and hiding a few animals.
I doubt religion will ever fade away and that's cool imo, it doesn't harm me in the slightest and I think that without religion you can still be a perfect and loving person unlike >>56586976 seems to think.
>>56588636
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.
>>56583908
>people actually believe what is written in this
>>56588858
Look into cosmic background radiation, that gives us information about the age of the universe and the big bang
>>56588724
No, unfortunately it's not.
Which came first the chicken or the egg?
Answer the question.
>>56588807
No, it can't. There are completely different things.
>>56588858
It's not full of holes, it's used by most of the entire scientific community to explain the universe.
I dunno, I've read the Bible and seen the church and christians seem like they've really got their shit together compared to the bleeding heart atheists that make up the liberal party.
>>56589211
And then there is this guy.
>>56589080
>can't prove evolution
>and bacteria are not an argument
ok then
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vestigiality
>>56589026
Thanks for the tip man
>>56589080
Well I know. Big bang theory seems to explain a lot except to the point of where the explosion all came from. It's kind of similar to how a dwarfplanet collapses into itself and explodes because there is too much mass in one tiny place so that's the only explanation I could give to why such an explosion would have happened.
I realize I don't know enough so I'm going to read into it now. That's for sparking my interest guys!
>>56589289
>wikipedia
Go back to reddit kid.
>>56589429
It was God.
>>56583908
Lately I'm starting to question whether or not people who claim to take the epic tales within it as literal truth or if they have some high-level metaphorical way of understanding the symbolic representations within that I was just never introduced to until adulthood. Because I'm starting to interpret those things into it myself and when I do that, they make more sense.
But then I'm like, "nah. They really are that ridiculous, and seriously hope that when they die their soul will go into Disneyland."
>>56589080
You clearly have no understanding of the problem of abiogenesis, cell mechanisms, evolution, natural selection, etc outside of your copypasted sources. These are ancient arguments that were picked apart decades ago. Your chicken/egg question is meaningless to an evolutionary biologist. It only makes sense to the kind of person who believes in fixed 'kinds' in the first place, which is an artifact of human cognition.
>>56589544
wikipedia or not you'll find the same shit averywhere about the Vestigiality, do you own research
Oh no you don't even care anyway you are just here to bait
>>56589551
That's God trying to talk to you.
All you have to do is listen.
>>56589551
Most of them are. The Golden Age of liberal Christianity that most resembles the "high-level metaphorical way of understanding symbolic representations" thrived into the 1920s. Probably the best example is the Abingdon Bible Commentary, which has plenty of useful information about errors and contradictions in the OT and NT yet was written by believing Christians.
This breed of Christianity was thoroughly dead by the 1980s.
>>56587777
>le agnostic atheist maymay
>>56589633
All he's missing is smug frog and umaru images
>>56589616
No, they haven't been. Evolution is trash and there is no good scientific evidence to even show natural selection was the only guiding process of evolution.
It shows simple organisms to complex organisms, and there is no evidence of transition.
Hitchens faces the mathematical improbability of evolution in many of his debates.
Which came first the chicken or the egg?
>>56589551
The notion that some select parts of the Bible aren't meant to be interpreted literally while other parts are supposed to be taken seriously and Strictly adhered to seems like kind of a cop out, doesn't it? Somebody living inside of a whale is just as probable as the existence of angels.
>>56589864
>evolution is trash
I have a great deal of respect for converging lines of evidence. This is worse than denying the Holocaust desu senpai.
>no good scientific evidence to even show natural selection was the only guiding process of evolution.
Nobody is claiming that this is necessarily the case. Do you understand onus probandi?
>>56583908
op actually believes he can prove anything but his mind actually exists
>>56589864
>there is no evidence of transition.
Why do snakes still have "legs" in their skeleton? And whales as well??
Maybe they both are transsitionspecies living RIGHT NOW
>implying there's an end to evolution
>implying everything today isn't a transsitionspecies as we will discover in another fee thousand of years
>>56589762
The kinds of things I'm getting from it sound like the kind of things you could have gotten killed for saying outright.
>It's all right there. These people don't understand what's up. They desperately need your guidance and wisdom.
But I don't think the inherent deception is a positive influence. I'll stick with my Tower of Babel.
>>56590108
Let's see all of this supposed evidence.
kek
If it was any good, evolution wouldn't be a theory anymore. Yet it remains unproven to a greater degree.
Why can you not answer the question?
It's because it puts an end to your irrational thinking.
Chicken or the egg.
Which came first?
>>56590310
>If it was any good, evolution wouldn't be a theory anymore.
I got trolled hard, 9/10
>>56590108
Top kek. I laugh at all of your tiny minds that just cannot understand what is going on around them and so they magically make up words so they can lie to themselves about understanding something, well done faggot, you have achieved litterally nothing.
>>56586511
btw /pol/ is a christian board, atheist claims here are just baits
>>56590434
In this moment, are you enlightened by your euphoria?
>>56589838
How's that a meme? I seriously don't get the whole "Religious = Fedora, Atheist = Fedora". Y'all sound like edgy contrarians.
>>56584734
>Gospels are not written by eyewitnesses, and date to many years after the death of Jesus
Earliest records of the book of matthew and John occur in 50AD. About 20 years after christ died. Given most of the 12 apostles were quite young its pretty easy to say they wrote them in their late 40s or 50s.
Heck, even if its people who heard the apostles, its literally a game of telephone between 2 people, you can't be stupid enough to fuck that up.
>>56590310
Either a lizard chicken which for the very first time got the ability to grow a foetus outside its uturus. The eggshell got harder and harder until it started killing the chickens whondidnt shitnout the egg. So only egg shitting lizardchickens could survive pregnancy.
So choose between evolving lizardchickens or god. Neither are proven to this day
>>56590367
No empirical evidence to support dumbwin's theory of shitvolution.
Answer the question.
Chicken or the egg?
>>56590201
SO DRAGONS USED TO EXIST?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?
AND WHALES THAT COULD WALK ON LAND???!!!
ven if it could be shown that snakes at one time had legs, this actually fits within the creationist model. The loss of features like legs is a type of degeneration, which is the opposite of molecules-to-man evolution (which requires new genetic information for advancement).
Researchers acknowledged that this snake crawled like the snakes of today. They have not proposed how it used its legs (their guess may be revealed in the Nature article).
Because some evolutionists may continue to claim that snakes “came out of the sea,” the land vs. sea controversy in the evolutionist community may still not be settled. Some evolutionists might argue for “convergence” (i.e., arguing that the legs on this snake are not due to a common inheritance with lizards—but, then, what are they transitions from?). Evolutionists may never agree on whether this new find is truly transitional.
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>>56590071
Well here's what I've stumbled upon which is making me wonder about that shit.
The Tower of Babel I just mentioned: Liken it to our collection of knowledge and technology. We're always shooting "higher", attempting to "transcend the boundaries of nature" and "reach into the heavens". The Bible would have us believe that "God" (the universe itself) will collapse it all and in the panic, people will scatter. I don't know what this is necessarily supposed to represent, but it does make you wonder if some ancient civilization or type of being or something put it in there as a kind of "warning" about not trying to escape Earth in a Pepsi can built by the lowest bidder, just because we can.
>multiple religions exist over the world
>delusional faggots remain adamant in that not only is religion true, but theirs is the truest
Literally Orwellian levels of cognitive dissonance here, and yet these people have to audacity to say they're 'redpilled' here on /pol/.
>>56590627
Where did this lizard chicken come from?
>>56583908
>christkeks defending this pretenious piece of shit written by jews.
>christkeks thinking they're still relevant.
>christkeks not giving a valid argument.
>christkeks not presenting valid evidence.
never change christkeks, never change.
>>56590640
>American Education: The Post
lmao
>>56590594
>50AD
John is from fucking 90AD
Matthew is guaranteed written after Mark, so 65AD at the earliest, probably 70-85AD
>>56590744
since when did they put the worldfilter for C.u.c.k.s?
>>56590845
sick ID, is that a secret board?
>>56590071
And furthermore, it's presented in such a way that even if you *do* interpret it literally, the result is kinda the same. You'll be stuck inside that low-level bubble, but you'll be heading in the intended direction.
>>56590640
The Egg came first, it was birthed among a lot of slightly different eggs and the slightly different bird born out of it was the first chicken
This can explain better for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a8pI65emDE
>>56590640
>SO DRAGONS USED TO EXIST?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?
>AND WHALES THAT COULD WALK ON LAND???!!!
Le ridiculing me?
It's possible, the dragons not so much although we have legends much as the Bible proving it sonmaybe dragons are real.
Meanwhile you have a nonfunctional tailbone. It used to function right? Or did God just put all these nonfunctional (rudimentary) bones there just to troll us all?
Keep denying your tailbone. Keep denying everything it makes me laugh.
I'm truly enlightened today. Feels kinda nice. Pls provide me with pics of other handsome welldressed males who also have reached the next level of intelligence such as me.
But yeah, explain your tailbone to me
>>56590766
>Italy
No one even thinks about you.
If there was any empirical evidence evolution would not remain a theory.
>>56590953
Tone down the trolling, you're making it too obvious bro
>>56590712
Fishlizard? Who knows exactly, that's what we're figuring out here.
It's ok not to know yet
>>56590640
>AND WHALES THAT COULD WALK ON LAND???!!!
Your mum is evidence they still exist.
>>56587799
>2015 having science and empirical answers
>You still believe bullshit written by people who didn't know where the sun went at night or what stars were or about bacteria or diseases or beyond basic mathematics
>>56590953
>empirical evidence
Do you even know what that means, senpai? Poor trolling attemp
>>56591104
>muh ambulocetus
>>56590903
So a bunch of chimps were fucking and magically one time a Human as we are came out?
And eventually another came out which just so happened to be the opposite sex and now we are all here?
Your video is complete shit and only furthers my point. You shit lord.
>>56591222
>>56590640
>The loss of features like legs is a type of degeneration, which is the opposite of molecules-to-man evolution
Bro, removing unwanted features and thus optimizing the organism is evolution. Not every animal you see today is a forefather of us. We all got branched out a long time ago.
Which is another thing. Creationists seem to dislike us humans being animals even though clearly we are animals, only we are just a bit smarter and seem to be more conscious than other animals. (Some primates and dolphins are conscious too tho, just provide them with mirror)
>>56591222
>Thousands of years
>Magically
So Jesus magically came back from the realm of the dead?
>>56590987
Still no evidence presented.
>>56591147
Yes, it means something we can test to get the same result over and over. It is certainty.
We still have never even observed evolutionary change. EVER.
And we never will, because it is shit.
>>56590924
>>56591038
>it's possible the dragons and land whales could have existed
>You're crazy and stupid for believing in a book!
>muh science muh evolution
>BUT there could have been DRAGONS
>YOU'RE STILL AN IDIOT FOR BELIEVING IN A BOOK
Piss off kids.
>>56591369
>losing your legs which has been shown to be the best way of movement other than flight for land animals is an advantage
gtfo of here and you guys are saying I'm trolling?
>>56591448
Exactly. It takes the same amount of faith to believe some chimp like beasts popped out two humans as it does that Jesus performed miracles and that God is real.
Evolution is literally a miracle and only shows that God is real.
>>56591572
>>56591801
I can understand being religious. But ACTUALLY being a creationist is proof of severe brain damage. A grown man literally believing that someone sprinkled fairy dust and created man, then he ripped a rib from the man and created the woman = stupider than a 5 year old. Taking the Bible literally = being the closest to brain dead as possible.
>>56591572
>We still have never even observed evolutionary change. EVER.
But we did, during the 2nd industrial revolution the common white/brown moth evolved to a grey/black color pattern to hide better from the predators due to the coal powered steam clouds which darkened the bark of the white trees
>And we never will, because it is shit.
KEK
>>56591801
I'm starting to believe you're not trolling or baiting, you're simply legit retarded.
>>56591885
Still no evidence.
Your lame b8 pictures are going to be admitted as your acceptance of defeat.
I hope you learned something today.
You crazy science denier.
>>56591572
>We still have never even observed evolutionary change. EVER.
You're still denying the fact that cultures of microbes can grow and evolve depending on which breeding ground you out them. Only 1 kind will first survive the breeding ground and later be the only typebalive and flourish.
Denying contradictory evidence instead of addressing it doesn't help your case.
>>56591572
>arguing like a 12 year old
>calling me kid
If you're going to attack me instead of me arguments then you're not progressing our discussion but are only trolling.
So explain your tailbone without attacking pls. Also address my above answer about the microbes.
>>56590701
That's really interesting. I'd say that you don't necessarily need to believe that the bible is a divine scripture in order to find meaning in it.
>>56591969
>>56591902
Hahahaha this makes me laugh so hard.
All you guys are saying is oh le b8 man or le troll man.
I'm actually showing you examples of how evolution is a miracle, adaptation is not evolution.
Evolution is a species turning into something better through natural selection. Changing greatly due to GROWTH, getting more complex. Due to RANDOM mutation.
The odds of it happening are practically zero.
>Americans can't see this
Being an atheist doesn't necessarily mean that one believes in any kind of a big bang.
Being a christfag GUARANTEES you believe in a some sort of magical space zombie with superpowers.
>>56591993
That's not contradictory.
You're comparing apples to oranges.
Saying a single cell organism evolved into what we are now and comparing that whole process to macroevolution in bacteria makes you look retarded.
I already explained the mathematical improbability of evolution.
>>56592116
Go back to reddit.
>>56592183
>Adaptation is not evolution
You're so fucking stupid, but then again you're american.
>>56591887
>I am so retarded I can't derive esoteric symbolism from the old testament
>I am so retarded I literally think its a coincidence how the greatest societies were christian
>I am really soooo retarded I believe in causation only past my nose
>>56592183
You believe God sprinkled magic dust and created man, then he ripped out a rib an made the woman? Really? That does not sound like just a story for you? You accept that as reality?
Do you believe that the stork brought you to your parents? Do you believe in the Easter bunny? Do you believe in Santa Claus?
How many stories do you take as absolute truth?
>>56592253
>believing we evolved from apes
Not even crazy alien dude believe that garbage.
>>56591993
>cultures of microbes
>human body
>>56592183
>adaptation is not evolution.
Wat
I guess I know what the problem is. You don't accept small changes to be proof of evolution (you call it adaptation instead).
Instead you want a HUGE CHANGE, like a chicken into a human or whatever. Only such an example would classify as evolution to you no?
Well those examples never exist, won't exist ever. Congrats.
(Psst adaptation is evolution btw)
>>56592424
Then where have we evolved from? Spiders?
Stop being stupid.
>>56592392
It's not.
That's why we have TWO different words, it's to explain two different things.
Gosh Italy you are fucking dumb.
>>56592416
I believe the Bible. I wouldn't even say that though. I know the Bible is true.
>>56592424
Explain your tailbone again
>>56592502
Just an example of a small change. Many small changes make a big change eventually
>>56589080
>Which came first the chicken or the egg?
Ok, I'm stumped, which one came first?
>>56592415
How is anything you replied an acceptable answer to my comment?
Stop doing drugs.
>>56592569
Adaptation is not one species evolving from another.
It's not evolution. They are completely different.
>>56592602
We didn't evolve at all.
Christianity was never about
being true. It was about solidarity.
Europe would not have been the same if not for the solidarity Christianity gave to the European states. What better image than that of your king, the living embodiment of god who could have brought you to paradise being murdered by your enemies to rile up your men to defend your world.
To fight and to sacrifice your life like your King and Saviour, your God before you.
This is Christianity. This saved Europe. This made Europe strong. This is what defended Europe and gave Europeans the safety to develop all the great things the European mind could imagine.
Christianity is my religion. Not because I believe it is true. Because the image of a white man who will never compromise or give in to his enemy by denouncing himself as the true God and Savior of the world even in the face of death is an image I choose over all else. Because I believe I and all my fellow white men who follow that same image can and will vanquish our enemies and anyone who wishes to destroy us.
Christianity made Europe one country. Not defined by boarders but by the colour of your skin, your gentic quality and by the nature of your personality and your religion.
White solidarity under the banner of our dead king. He died for us. He died so we would not share his fate.
The question Christianity asked Europe was this: "Are you willing to allow those who seek to destroy you to do so without a fight while you fight eachother? Or will you unite under that banner once more for the sake of all that is good and holy?"
The dead white man. The living God on earth. The savior of all mankind. The sacrificial lamb.
Can you see what Christianity is really about yet?
>>56592307
this
>>56592647
Adaptation doesn't change your genes you dumb shithead. Moths color pattern is determined by genes, just like your hair color. They evolved to survive. It's survival of the fittest, not survival of the luckiest. And no, it's not a "random" mutation but instead a very specific mutation which allows a specific species to adapt (through evolution) and therefore survive. Now go back to your hamburgers,
>>56592791
First a monkey adapts and loses hair
Then it adapts and loses tail
Then it walks upright
Then it grows brain
Etc
Many adaptations all lead to evolution is that fine to you then?
(I still argue EVERY adaptation is evolution but you want to discuss words. Ugh)
It was never about heaven. It was never really about what happens when you die. That was just a way to convince the ignorant uneducated masses.
It was always about unity. It was about amassing a great army of united white men to protect ourselves.
Heaven was never meant to be a place you go when you die. Heaven is the world ruled by the white man. The white man is the god on earth, that's why he stands out from all other men. Other men are savage oppressors. The white man is benevolent and all who live under him benefit because the white man loves the weak.
The Islamic arab loves the strong and dominates the weak. In a white man dominated society all people succeed because the strong carry the weak.
White man became so much stronger than all others in his unity that he fooled himself into believing the enemies who wish to see him destroyed are weak and must be carried like the weak in his own society.
This belief has become his undoing. He allowed Christianity to be subverted and destroyed by cultural marxist jews. White men allowed them to destroy their solidarity which was formed under Christianity. Now whites have no solidarity.
Remember why Joseph and Mary were travelling to Bethlehem?
It was the Census of Quirinius. That was the census of the Roman provinces of Syria and Judaea. This isn't relevant because Jesus was necessarily a real living man. This is relevant because Jesus is the representation of white men as god. He was born in the furthest reaching province of the Roman empire for a reason. This was the extent of the white mans power and these were white european colonies.
These colonies were lost to the muslim hoards.
Jesus was born there to remind us of our power not because he was born there. Jesus Christ, a white roman man, born in the furthest reaches of the empire. Born in the middle east.
>>56592759
The bird came first.
>>56592680
Darwin himself pointed out a flaw in the vestigial organ argument. He wondered how once an organ is rendered useless, it can continue to be further reduced in size until the merest vestige is left. In chapter 14 of Origin of Species he declared, “It is scarcely possible that disuse can go on producing any further effect after the organ has once been rendered functionless. Some additional explanation is here requisite which I cannot give.” Why, indeed, would useless organs continue to exist for millions of years after they ceased to have any selective advantage?
Coming from your butt buddy dumbwin himself.
>>56592791
We didn't evolve?
We are here, and we came from somewhere. You can't simply just exist. So please explain the exact process how we got from nothing to humans.
Where have humans evolved from, if not from apes? I mean, it's obvious we evolved from apes, because of the similarities. But you seem to suggest we have not, so please, enlighten me.
>>56592916
No, they are random mutations due to natural selection.
Those are Darwin's own words you shit lord.
>>56593027
>brain came last
topkek
The jews are the first to subvert Christianity, Jewish scholars altered the story to make Jesus a jew. They stole our savior to subvert our forces. Then in modern times they unleashed marxism and Christianity has been bashed and destroyed by atheists for decades while eastern religion has been celebrated by the new age.
Even the pope himself, the highest Christian authority is nothing but a marxist puppet.
The Christian lesson is to fight to the death to defend what is right for your dead king.
The dead white man.
That's why we're Christian.
>>56593186
God created us.
No, it's not obvious we evolved from apes.
There is nothing to support it either.
>>56593254
Darwin's own words are 150 years old and several flaws were pointed out and fixed. Daily reminder that new generations lack wisdom teeth already.
>>56593126
>The bird came first.
Did God have to say "Let there be chickens" or did he just think it?
>>56593126
So an intelligent designer would put organs that have no usefulness?
Would an intelligent designer create eyes for humans, that are filled with liquid, thus making them very bad for seeing in air, but great for seeing in water? Last time I checked, humans live on land, not in water.
>>56593458
>So an intelligent designer would put organs that have no usefulness?
God is much smarter than you so maybe these organs have some divine purpose that is beyond your understanding?
>>56593345
So? I'm asking you how we exist? How were we created. I don't care who created us.
We look exactly like apes, but just have larger brains. Can't get any more obvious. Stop living in denial.
>>56593345
but who created god?
>>56592834
Nah, kektianity was poison then and is poison now it was never a "white" religion like you think it was. Witness the current pope bringing in shitskins by the fuckload for example. Fuck even back then kektianity in europe caused all sorts of problems with internecine warfare.
The 30 years war being the perfect example of this, and it also did very little to stop endless european infighting from the fall of the roman empire up until the two world wars.
Honestly I'd happily take some sort of euro polytheism over this garbage any day of the week, were I religiously inclined.
>>56593345
"God" as in which God?
The same arguments can be used for all Gods bro
>>56593458
The problem with declaring any organ to be without function is discriminating between truly functionless organs and those that have functions that are simply unknown. Indeed, over the years nearly all of the organs once thought to be useless have been found to be functional. When we have no evidence for the function of an organ, it is well to bear in mind that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
There are no useless organs in the human body today. Evolutionists used to believe there were over 100.
Circular reasoning.
>>56593372
Genesis 1:23
>>56593369
>flaws
>fixed
>empirical fact
>theory
>flaws
>changed
Not even crazy alien dude thinks we evolved from apes
most people don't.
If it's not aliens it's God. Some people consider them one in the same.
If you think a single cell organism could evolve into a human that's fine. So long as you know the odds are not much higher than zero.
>>56593566
So if God is much smarter than humans, and humans can make automated machinery that builds stuff, then why can't God create automatic machinery that build the Universe and everything in it, without having to actually "dirty" his hands?
>>56593338
These days you see every version of Jesus. Jesus the Jew, Jesus the Arab, Jesus the nigger.
This is all part of the plan to destroy the white man's solidarity.
The Jewish marxist corruption of Christianity taught white men to love his enemies more than his own people.
But still there was Christians left in solidarity so the Jews unleashed athiesm on the Christian world as strong as they could. Constantly mocking Christ as weak. The meaning of the resurection was lost. The story of christ was filled with unbelievable nonsense to destroy the message.
That message is this. Christ, the dead white king, savior of the world, god on earth lives on in you the white man.
This is the true message of Christianity. White solidarity. The will to fight.
>>56592416
>made man from dust
That means we are physical like the World
>breathed life into man
>breath in Hebrew also is the same word for spirit
That means we are also spiritual like Angels
>Eve was Adam's rib
The idea is that it makes them equal, if the bone was from the head, she'd be superior to Adam, if from the foot then she'd be inferior.
Also I like to think it also works to explain, in a prehistoric legendscience way, why human penises are always flaccid since we lack the penile bone other animals have. And also at the same time giving more importance to mankind having sex.
>>56593126
Well, maybe it didn't have any advantage but it also didn't have any disadvantage so it didn't need to go away completely.
>>56593254
You missed my point. I just typed some random order there.
Can't you see how:
>a blind creature
>adapts (evolves) a slight dimple in its head and can feel the heat of the sun hit him slightly different
>adapts so this area gets extra sensitive to these lightrays
>adapts further so now special cells (cones) are atuned to these lightrays
>adapts more special lightrays cells (rods) in this dimple
> adapts a membrane so the light gets focused onto these rods and cones
>adapts even further and further
>till eventually: YOUVE GOT AN EYE!!
Every adaptation to the environment is evolution m8. YOU in the other hand just think evolution is: blind fish without eye --> fish with eye. While in fact the process of evolution is very much how I described it above; very small adaptations go further and further and keep improving until we get these awesome complex organisms.
I couldn't explained this better so I hope this reaches you. This is how the eye came to be, be glad
>>56584656
Nice bait fám
>>56583908
they dont though, if they actually believed it they would stop sinning
a christian is no different than a baby murdering atheist in terms of salvation
>>56593618
Read the Bible. That will answer your questions.
We don't look exactly like apes. Not even close. You can't ever compare our brains either.
>>56593639
Infinite regression. It cannot happen with beings. There must be a first being that didn't need a cause. It's like borrowing a book. You can't borrow the gift of existence unless something eternal possesses it.
>>56593754
The God of The Holy Bible.
>>56593780
What kind of stupid question is this?
God created the Universe, and all that is in it.
God created what we use to make the machines.
God created us so machines could be built in the first place.
God doesn't need help with making the Universe.
>>56593938
>The God of The Holy Bible
Why specifically that God of the Holy Bible?
And if you answer "it says so in the bible" so help me god i will strangle a baby
>>56593837
>well, maybe
My mission with you is done.
God is real.
All you have to do is listen.
>>56593938
You should get you eyes checked then, because we do look like apes. And you know that.
So if actually knowing that we look like apes, and evolved from apes, and that evolution is true, but actively trying do deny it, does that make you a blasphemous person, because you deny how God created everything. Remember, through science we discover how the world was created and how the universe works. Denying that, is denying how God created the Universe, which is pretty blasphemous.
>>56594107
Because of Jesus Christ.
>>56594238
i'm done, thank you for your time
>>56593745
Notice the 30 years war occured right after the first reformation of the church in the 16th century.
You're believing in the lies that were added in the 16th and 18th century by the Jewish subversion.
Christ was the white god of Rome.
I already said the current pope is a marxist puppet. He's not a real pope and we will most likely never see one again.
The fall of Rome was caused by constant Muslim invasion. The Pagan polytheistic religions are the true religion of earth. But that is irrelevant. Christ was the god created by white men to unify all white men against the muslim invaders and to reclaim stolen white territories in the middle east. But the white men lost in the crusades and our history was lost.
All the history through the dark ages and before were created in recent history mostly by jews who wish to control us and lead us as cattle for their own agendas.
>>56594223
No, we do not look like apes.
I am much better looking than an ape.
Evolution isn't true you shit lord. It's NEVER been observed. What about that do you not understand?
>>56593775
>Would an intelligent designer create eyes for humans, that are filled with liquid, thus making them very bad for seeing in air, but great for seeing in water? Last time I checked, humans live on land, not in water.
You forgot to explain that.
>>56594294
If you have other questions I will answer.
>>56594164
>denying the entire world around you
Read the rest of my post, its solid >>56593837
Every little change will eventually lead to another species. Just as how the eye has evolved so have wings and fingers and nails and tails and fur and talons and everything you see in nature.
Unfortunately you deny having read my post. You know you don't have an answer to it so you just deny it. A shame really
>>56594238
>Because of Jesus Christ.
Then how do you explain this:
>There is no god but God. Muhammad is the messenger of God.
>>56594347
Do you not realize Darwin was baffled by the eye?
here is this
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/11113278/Does-the-human-eye-prove-that-God-exists.html
darwin's own words
“could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree.”
>>56594507
Islam is garbage.
>>56594377
Not even Darwin believed the eye could come from natural selection.
>>56594602
>Islam is garbage.
Islam is the true and final religion, pal. Read your Quran.
>>56594337
So you are denying God's work? You are saying you are superior to God's work, by saying that God's work is "ugly", and that you can't possibly be completely related to another one of God's work.
You too blasphemous to be a Christian. Probably some sand nigger trying to defame Christianity.
DEUS VULT DEUS VULT
>>56583908
Oh look, an atheist.
It is quite possible that somebody like you, without any notable success or discovery on your back could be smarter than all those geniuses history has given us and that also happened to be believers, surely those persons never comfronted themselves with the doubts you've had, and surely, being dumber than you, it is possible that they never solved those issues that you presented yourself with. In fact the father of modern genetics could very well be a retard, he died a believer in the days of modern science and fedoras.
>>56594667
Evolution didn't happen.
God created man to rule over the animals.
So no, you are just grasping at straws and being annoying.
>>56594602
>Not even Darwin believed the eye could come from natural selection.
My explanation is one of the many available explanations as to how the eye came to be. Anything that helped the organism detect its own location was favorable and thus provided more offspring
There's more explanations out there, Darwin didn't know everything and neither do I
>>56594661
No, it's not.
It's the Beast and Jesus will come again.
>>56594507
Muhammad is the arab savior. He was created by arab men to convince arab men to conquer.
Christ is the European savior. He was created by European men to convince European men to defend.
Moses is the Jewish savior. He was invented by Jewish men to convince jews to subvert their enemies.
>>56594845
One of the best examples of design within the human body is the eye. Even Charles Darwin struggled with the problem of how to explain how such a complex organ as the eye could have “evolved” through naturalistic processes. In The Origin of Species he wrote:
To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest sense (1859, p. 170, emp. added).
God is real.
God is the answer.
>>56594532
Bro, I don't give a shit about what Darwin said. I asked you to explain the eye for me, and why would an intelligent designer make an eye that is best suited for water, when we are clearly land creatures?
I mean, that surely proves that the eye was created in water creatures, that are todays ancestors to all creatures that have eyes.
But I await your explanation.
And also, why would an intelligent creator put lungs in creatures that live in water (wales, dolphins).
>>56594864
To be fair though, what >>56594507 said is true and it's in the Quran if you want to look it up.
>>56594881
>Christ is the European savior. He was created by European men to convince European men to defend.
No, he was a prophet.
>>56594864
No, he has already served God.
>>56594927
Maybe this is more digesrable for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrKZBh8BL_U
Very similar to my explanation as you will see
Or dont watch and stay ignorant (highly likely you will choose this option)
but hey, most of all stay a good person as will all atheists as well
>>56594072
>>56594532
>What kind of stupid question is this?
>God created the Universe, and all that is in it.
>God created what we use to make the machines.
>God created us so machines could be built in the first place.
>God doesn't need help with making the Universe.
Again, I'm NOT asking you WHO created the universe. I'm asking you HOW the universe was created. Please provide the exact mechanism by which the universe was created.
In case you haven't realised yet, I do believe in God, but I am appalled by creationists who make a mockery of God's work by saying it was all "magic".
>>56595006
>why do whales and dolphins have lungs
Because that's how they absorb oxygen into their bloodstream.
After that, everything else you have said is immediately thrown into the trash.
I wouldn't say the eye is best suited for water either.
And no one can explain the eye you loser. It's practically perfect. Our brain probably being the only thing that is more complex.
Which oddly enough we use to expalin everything else, yet we don't even fully understand it.
God is real.
Also if you don't care what he thought why do you believe in evolution?
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>>56595338
God created the Universe.
God was the mechanism.
I never said anything about magic.
>>56595338
>Please provide the exact mechanism by which the universe was created.
See pic
Christians 1 -Atheists 0
>>56594822
You can't just say evolution didn't happen. You have to come up with the alternative.
So far you didn't come up with any alternative.
>>56584342
>That image
>There are more radicals than moderates
>The moderate Islam is still just a massive bomb waiting to be detonated
>mfw someone made this to illustrate that there's a difference between Muslims and "terrorists" but failed horrible.
>>56595470
Relax bro, no need to get angry. It's clear we both can't convince each other.
I just believe that through millions and millions of cellular changes we've become the human were today, see the cats we see today and birds dogs kangaroos etc etc.
Every bit is near 100% explained and has no evidence against it, only some gaps.
Meanwhile your theory has thousands of gaps explained by "god" and a ton of evidence to the contrary (example: why dinosaurbones? How did 1 man build a wooden ship that could house ALL the animals without sinking? Etc etc)
But again, you refute all this just by saying "muh god" or "muh bible". You can see why were not convinced right?
Also, stay calm and collected
>>56595554
Ok, let's take things slow, because I think you can;t process questions very well.
Ok, God created the Universe.
But HOW was the Universe created? Are the words WHO and HOW too difficult for you to discern the difference? I know they look similar, but they are not.
So again, HOW was the Universe created?
>>56595599
Yes I did.
It was God.
>>56595929
and Muhammad is his messenger.
>>56595929
>>56596088
you kids are adorable
but I think the muslim wins, Hitler Dubs >> prime numbers every time
>>56595896
No, it's not. Evolution has more holes in it and it's never been observed.
You asked me why whales had lungs.
They aren't gaps. What gaps? Tell me all about these gaps. God created dinosaurs too you know.
Noah was led by God.
All things are possible through God.
Revelation 1:8
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
>>56596088
>>56596227
Not as embarrassing as you.
Darwin will have a word with you himself I am sure.
Islam is the religion of Satan, the Beast will be slain.
Christ will come again.
>>56583908
Nawww.
Nobody even reads the thing in Australia. Everyone is just an ignorant casual Christian who has their own personal take on things.
>they don't pray
>they don't go to church outside of weddings and baptisms
>they've never read the bible
>they don't know any saints
>sometimes they can't quite remember if jesus was born or died on easter
But they totes believe in god, LOL I didn't evolve from a monkey!
>>56595470
>No one can explain the eye
Except any person who took a biology class on the subject of the eye.
>It's practically perfect.
Not even close. First of all, it has a liquid interior, which makes it the worst in seeing in air, because of the difference in refractive indexes between air and water. But makes it very good in water, since there is no refractive index.
The retina can become detached because of the pressure inside the eye. We can't see colour in the dark, and can only see a small fraction of the light spectrum.
>Because that's how they absorb oxygen into their bloodstream.
So God made a mistake and put lungs in dolphins and wales, instead of putting gills? Dude, you have to stop the blasphemy, because it's getting really dangerous for you.
Putting lungs instead of gills, would be the stupidest thing ever, and you believe that God himself made that choice. Which is why is blasphemy.
People who accept evolution, Christians or not, don't have to deal with these questions. But people like you, live in an imaginary world, created by words in the Bible that are meant only for spiritual guidance, and not meant for history or science.
What you don't understand is that God being real, does not contradict evolution, or the big bang, or any other scientific observation.
Document yourself on theistic evolution.
>>56596948
>We can't see colour in the dark, and can only see a small fraction of the light spectrum.
yet we are supposed to believe evolutionists when they say apes and us share a common ancestor?
do you know anything about monkey eyes?
>>56596948
They are mammals you loser.
They need lungs because they don't have gills.
Are you retarded?
>>56597097
Finally some reinforcements.
I can finally go to bed.
>>56596394
>Christ will come again.
If he coulda, he woulda. Islam is THE final religion.
>>56595929
Ok, let's take things slow, because I think you can;t process questions very well.
Ok, God created the Universe.
But HOW was the Universe created? Are the words WHO and HOW too difficult for you to discern the difference? I know they look similar, but they are not.
So again, HOW was the Universe created?
>>56583908
God is REAL.
>>56583908
>atheist
I'll pray for you.
>>56596948
No.
You are blasphemous for saying God could make a mistake.
And yes it does. It says we evolved from an ape and the Bible clearly tells us we were created in God's image.
Stop being such a heretic.
>>56597164
So wait? Why did God make them mammals, and give them lungs, and put them in the water? That is NOT what God would do.
The sooner you realise that, the sooner you will be forgiven by God for your mockery of his creation. Creationism is a sin.
>>56597278
GOD IS THE WHAT AND THE HOW
Revelation 1:8
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
You are the one having trouble understanding.
>>56597282
God is real.
>>56597416
Make that two.
>>56597267
Shut up Ahmed.
>>56587569
>Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
The egg. Not the chiken's egg, but the egg as a reproduction device. Dinosaurs were using eggs long before chickens existed.
This "paradox" is only puzzling to retards who think god created animals out of thin air without understanding how evolution and the development of life works.
>>56597594
You are saying God isn't perfect.
YOU are the heretic.
YOU are the blasphemer.
Read the Bible.
>>56597642
>Revelation 1:8
not the Qu'ran
>>>/trash/
>>56597416
I'll think for you :^)
>>56597682
Which is that it doesn't work.
The Chicken came first.
>>56597642
HOW did God create the universe? Please explain, because you keep telling me that God created the Universe. But HOW did he do it?
Leviticus was a closeted fag wasn't he?
>>56597731
That is directly involved in praying.
>>56597777
God can do anything.
What kind of stupid questions are you even asking.
>>56597775
>The Chicken came first.
No, I already told you the egg came first, millions of years ahead of the chicken actually.
>>56597594
>why would God do this
>I know what God thinks and wants
>thus you must interpret those passages this way
Pretending to be able to understand God's plan is more blasphemous than taking His word for truth. "Because it's in the Bible" is a valid argument for Christians (which you claim to be).
>>56597872
>God can do anything.
Could he create a rock so large even he would be impressed by its size?
>>56597961
Not the egg we are talking about.
And not even close to millions of years.
>>56597872
>Thinking
>Praying
lol
>>56597872
>What kind of stupid questions are you even asking.
He can't even creates plants before the sun.
>>56597682
>>56597594
If God used evolution to 'create' life, why was God there? Where is the miracle? You're trying to use science to capture God's essence, and that's impossible. It's okay to not understand God's way and just accept the Bible for what it says.
>>56597704
God created the Universe. So scientists look at the universe and discovered HOW God created the Universe. You don't want to accept the discoveries. Which means you are not accepting God's work.
It's your word against God's Universe. And you are denying God's Universe and the way to was created. Can't get more blasphemous than that.
All religions on Earth have accepted theistic evolution, but you don't want too. I'm not even surprised, because there are still people who believe the Earth is flat. You are all blasphemers, and have left your religion behind
>>56598019
The only thing that impresses God is the haste of a person to so quickly dismiss God's existence.
>>56583908
/pol/ one board under God
>>56583908
why not,
it's a cookbook, examine it like a mythological storybook combined with an encoded scientific journal, when you start looking at the chemical makeup of everything in this book you will literally flip your shit
>>56598133
So becoming an atheist is the only way to impress God?
>>56598019
Yes but to show how mighty he is he would create an even bigger rock.
>>56597777
Because in the beginning he created the heavens and the earth.No person was around to witness it but the more we explore the human body,earth and even space where we were not meant to go. It only raises more human questions.
>>56598097
Yes.
The Bible tells us we were created in God's image.
This has NOTHING to due with HOW God created the Universe.
You are the definition of a backwards thinking heretic.
>>56598024
>Not the egg we are talking about.
The paradox never stated "the chicken's egg", just the egg.
The egg is the way chickens evolved and thus appeared, however the lines are blurred as to where the first chicken begins, but before that the eggs were no different than the ones current chickens use.
>>56584253
but Christ is a type of Dionysus
I like Dionysus better, more believable and he isn't trying to get onto Mithras coattails as much
>>56598350
You don't need to be an atheist to dismiss God.
