Terrorists are not Muslim. Terrorists are extremists. Come on /pol/, it's almost 2016, why haven't you grown out of racism and Islamophobia yet? Just because extremists conduct acts of terror in the name of Islam, it doesn't mean that EVERY muslim is a terrorist. Terrorists are misguided, and have the wrong interpretation of Islam. Do you actually think the majority of Muslims support the barbaric acts of terror inflicted upon France? Before you call me a retard or a troll, give me some good reasons for why you dislike Islam and Muslims so heavily. This is exactly what ISIS wants to do: Turn the European people against Muslims in Europe, to cause tension between Europeans and Muslims. This will only make Muslims in Europe feel less welcome, and they will become more susceptible to joining ISIS.
>>55892525
This has been pointed out a million times but the vast majority of muslims support the extremists and there is 0 condemnation by muslim leaders, so yes, they are pretty much all culpable.
>>55892525
>>55892525
>Do you actually think the majority of Muslims support the barbaric acts of terror inflicted upon France?
They literally do.
>>55892655
A vast majoirty of muslims support the extremists? I'd like some sources for that claim.
>>55892525
Islam is the section 8 welfare of religion. It is a bastard kike religion just like Christ-kekery, and every muslim nigger needs to be skinned alive.
>>55892525
Who is this penis genius?
>>55892800
the quran clearly states that:
you must convert everyone to islam.
people who refuse must die.
islam=terrorism
>>55892837
Why do they need to be "skinned alive"? I am asking for some reasons why you hate Muslims, and you've provided nothing.
>>55892897
But that's just one way to interpret the Qur'An. Not all Muslims believe this.
>>55892525
>that qt pashtun
>>55892986
all muslims believe this. that's why you're trying to convert us
>>55892800
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg
>>55892525
Oh, I guess it could either be "I shall strike terror into the hearts of the unbelievers..." or any other of hundreds of passages from the quran and/or hadiths invoking the righteous muslim's duty to murder, torture and dismember non-muslims. Your taqiyya won't fly here, you better go make yourself useful by playing some PS4 or building a fucking clock.
Go back to where you came from!
>>55893123
I'm not a Muslim. How do you know all Muslims believe that everyone must convert to Islam or die? I don't know a single Muslim that actually believes this.
>>55892897
the bible also states a load of horse shit that no one actually pays any attention to
>>55893342
because they're not muslims
>>55892525
>Terrorists are not Muslim. Terrorists are extremist Muslims
FTFY
>>55893342
Most of the horse shit applies only to jews and/or was shitcanned by the new testament.
>>55892525
Fuck off, Norway
>>55893253
If you're not a muslim, why are you preaching it?
>>55893342
Pretty much this. According to the bible, God's punishment pulling out is death
> But Onan knew that the child would not be his; so whenever he slept with his brother’s wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from providing offspring for his brother. 10 What he did was wicked in the Lord’s sight; so the Lord put him to death also.
Genesis 38:9-10
>Implying that Islam wasn't created by some old fart who wanted justification for lusting for pre-pubescent pussy
>>55892525
>It's almost 2016
is this a new meme or what? Have been hearing it all week.
>give me a good reason why you dislike Islam or Muslims
I dislike Islam for making it very, very, very clear that it is a "join us or your soul will burn forever in hellfire" religion just like christianity
I dislike Muslims for following this religion even if they dont agree with all of it, just like I would dislike any person who says "Hey I like national socialism thought I dont agree on jews being the enemy"
>>55892525
>it's almost 2016
>>55892525
It would be too easy if EVERY muslim is a terrorist. Come on it's 2015, why haven't you grown out of stupidity?
>>55893438
If that were true, why does the christian bible even have the old at testament all? Its funny that most christians pick and chose what they believe in the bible, but yet they don't seem to think that most muslims do the same for the koran
>muh MUSLIMS AREN'T TERRORISTS
>muh RELIGION OF PEACE
Please explain who's fighting whom in muslim countries and for what reason.
>>55892800
Go to any number of Muslim countries where crowds cheer when women are stoned and thieves have their hands chopped off, disgusting barbarians all muslims
WHEN WILL THESE SHILL THREADS END?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhpRlkrMWy8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhpRlkrMWy8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhpRlkrMWy8
KILL YOURSELF, PIGSLIME.
>>55892655
They don't condemn it because they have nothing to do with it. They're probably worried about their own current affairs where more of their people are dying in suicide attacks than in Paris.
>>55893654
Because most of the old testament isn't horse shit.
The reason Christians can disregard some of the old social laws and shit laid out in the old testament is because the gospels literally say to do so. As far as I'm aware, the Koran doesn't do anything like that.
>>55893547
Pretty sure that was for adultery and not for pulling out
>>55893547
nice proxy, how about you answer my question:
>>55893473
>>55893837
Only Islam exports it's terrorism. Kkk have not blown up shit in Africa.
Keep your terrorist in you own fucking countries. Muslims are so weak they continue to let extremist rule over them unchecked
>>55892525
fuck your lying turd munching mouth
get the fuck out of europe ahmed
>>55893654
>yet they don't seem to think that most Muslims do the same for the koran
Because they really don't do it to any meaningful extent.
You're making the error of comparing Christianity to Islam and the way they're practiced.
Islam isn't just a religion, it's a way of life, way of thinking and a culture.
It's also something you don't give up.
Our religion is pretty much separate from our way of life, church is something that's there and if you choose to either believe in god or not, you can do that.
Church isn't the center of our lives and something we build our whole existence around.
Islam on the other hand will always be the cornerstone in the life of a Muslim, no matter how moderate they're supposed to be.
Our Western values that promote freedom and individuality will always clash with the very outdated ideas of Islam.
Islam is simply incompatible with the West and has caused problems as long as it has been present.
>>55893957
Maybe Muslim countries are weak thanks to the destabilization of the region thanks to you? When Saddam Hussein was in power, there were literally almost NO suicide bombings. After he was ousted, there have been at least 3000 suicide bombings from then to now, and that's in Pakistan. It shows how much you fucked up that it even went over to East Asia.
>>55892525
Goodbye race traitor. Reddit is that way.
![7d1fd2f639a710e6ab4429b3c42c6ed6[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4itlW9c.jpg "7d1fd2f639a710e6ab4429b3c42c6ed6[1].jpg")
>>55893957
>Kkk have not blown up shit in Africa.
Now, we just have the government do that for us.
>>55892525
Why are Hijabs so sexy? Finding good hijab porn is hard as hell.
>>55893961
You have the mental ability of a child.
>>55892525
It's not even about solely terrorism. It's about violent crimes commited by muslim immigrants in Europe, it's about muslims being economical parasites and many more. Enough of this shit. Fuck mussies.
>>55894184
Says the one who throws a fit over cartoons lel.
>>55894110
You do know the problem with islam isnt just suicide bombings right?
The way you treat other people is also terrible.
>>55892525
nah. islam means fucking your cousin.
>>55894064
>Our religion is pretty much separate from our way of life
You're not a true christian according to the bible then, your a secularist pretending to be a christian when it's convenient to you. Jesus is to be a part of every decision you make in your life, to guide every part of your life. Only then will you reach salvation. I'm not making this up, its in the bible itself.
You are confusing your culture with your religion. Islam has the same thing, there are cultural hardliners that follow strict islam, and there are more secular muslims as well.
>>55894276
>Canada 10-19%
wut
>>55892678
He didn't rape her. She said he fucked her when she was nine. It's not rape if the two are consenting.
Islam = terrorism, pedo worship and hatred of all things good
>>55894273
Really? I live in a Muslim country and they treat us great. I don't know about you, but it seems like you don't live in a Muslim country, and it seems like you never have, unless it was some shithole like Iraq is now. The reason they treat their people like shit is because of the hardship brought about thanks to the good ol' Ameribros coming in and destabilizing the region.
>>55894480
Explain. Explain why Islam equals terrorism.
>>55894393
i thought it was 1-9%. consistent with the number of street shitters and mudslimes we have. i'm not even joking.
Fuck off back to reddit you kebab chugging cunt. Muslims are pedophile worshipers.
>>55892525
That's correct.
It still doesn't make me want to live with more Muslims, though.
>>55892525
I am so sick and tired of "extremist." That's a word people literally made up after 9/11 because Muslims didn't like being called out on their ass-backwards religion.
And pray-tell explain to me why it is everyone else has to accomodate them in our countries while they refute to tolerate others not their kind flooding into their countries and doing this shit. I am so very curious to hear you explain demands for tolerance towards the completely intolerant.
Thery cause the exact same problems every where on the whole planet, yet they're always the ones depicted as the victims, and somehow their bullshit is always twisted to be everyone else's fault.
They need to grow the fuck up, stop seeing the rest of the world as their to lean on while they reject the peoples of the world from their countries to do the same shit to them, and stop pretending that the problems with terrorists isn't anything but Islam.
Funny how everyone can rip on all white Christians for that fuck who shot up a black church, and rip on Christians some more when one refuses to give faggots marriage licenses, BUT do nothing but cower in fear to Islam.
>>55894493
>they treat us great
No shit. Because you're a filthy mudslime too. Nice taqiya though bro. :^)
>>55894565
Yeah I think you're right. I misread the scale.
>>55892525
>>55892800
I don't see any sources in your posts
>>55892525
Nonwhites don't belong in Europe. They have no reason to settle permanently. They have plenty of their own nations in which to live. It's in white interest to have a homogeneous culture, just kike everyone else.
>>55894527
Because they saw some verse in the Quran that's outdated as fuck and thought that it applies to today. If they go by that logic, then Christians are pretty fucking bad people too, considering it says that you can own a Jewish slave, and that if you wear 2 different types of cloth, you deserve to be stoned.
>>55894646
Muslims still stone people.
>>55894619
Toplel. I'm not even Muslim. I'm a fucking foreigner in this country, and all the expats are treated great. Go home back to walabalabingbong shitposter.
>>55892525
What it does mean is Muslims, in general, are a bunch of pussified crybabies. You'll cry how you dindu nuttin and that extremists have hijacked your religion. Do something about it! Just fucking DO IT! REMOVE KEBAB AND SAVE YOUR RELIGION!
>>55894725
Sure thing bro. :^)
That's why you're preaching pisslam. :^)
![chief_joseph[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1Swc4YQ.jpg "chief_joseph[1].jpg")
>>55894640
>Whites belong back in Europe, they have plenty of nations to live in
So are you first on the boat back to your motherland?
>>55894725
nice taqiyya
>>55894646
Christians actually were pretty fucking bad people too, they've done atrocities in the past which Islam is doing now, only worse. Comparing Islam to Christianity won't ever make Islam any better. that's just a cheap excuse.
No islam no terrorism thats the solution for the problem
>>55894362
I'm not a Christian, I'm not an Atheist either.
Generally around here we don't give a fuck about religion and church has recently started kicking out priests because no one goes there.
But the way you described Christianity there is exactly how the people in the west are.
No one truly gives a shit about religion unless it's convenient for them.
Only thing that prevents the whole establishment of Church from dying out is probably the reason that it has been in our society for a very long time.
To put it simply, we have progressed past those religious guidelines in the bible and we have come up with our own.
Which are superior.
Sure there are secular muslims as well, but unfortunately these people are still about 300 years behind our times.
Islam is still extremely present in their lives and even the moderate Mulsims ideas are still pretty god damn stone age tier compared to our values.
And for some reason, they still choose to bring up their kids in the same religious environment, even though the alternative would be to accept the freedom of the west.
Islam is outdated and unwilling to change.
Mudslimism = terrorism, just look up any stats on terrorism and read the Qu'ran
>>55894646
Did you ever heard about radical Christians?
>>55894823
I'm thinking of going back, Sitting Burger.
>islam
>race
>>55894823
Done, now fuck off.
>>55894910
This.
When you want to get rid of a wasp infestation, you don't just kill all the wasps that sting you. You burn the nest.
>>55892525
Dude stop giving yourself reasons to join IS.
>muh euro fags its all ur fault ur so bad to us
If christians ever did this shit to some other religion i wud insta unbaptise which u fags dont so deep inside u filthy scum supports isis>>55892525
>>55892525
>they will become more susceptible to joining ISIS.
Isn't that the idea? If they're all in ISIS we can exterminate them once and for all, and there's not a thing the liberals could do about it.
>Not all muslims are extremists
So? At no point in human history has the majority of any nation or political ideology been the actual aggressor because most people, no matter their country of origin or religious background, just want to live their life and not bother anybody else.
That isn't a reason to ignore the masses who are the problem, which is the stance you are proposing every time you throw around the line 'No all Muslims are terrorists.'
Muslims are the enemy because enough of them are killing innocents and disrupting the peace of the world. If there was an active effort to try and stop the 'radicals' by the whole of the Islamic people, nobody would even make or feel the need to make the statements you have made.
Only 7% of the German population were Nazis and supported the Nazis, but that was enough to go to war with Germany and it was enough for Germany to cause major world wide chaos even though it was only a small percentage of a tiny nation.
The minority of Muslims are the only Muslims actively causing chaos, but the majority of Muslims are letting it happen while just looking for people to pity them.
Not once in the history of the world has it been so universally agreed upon that a group of people were unquestionably the enemy of multiple nations, but absolutely zero aggression been carried out against the bulk of those enemies. In fact, this is the only time in History where the major aggressors have laws in place to protect them from having their feelings hurt.
Islam is the enemy and it needs to be burned out of existence by the bulk of the world. If followers of Islam don't want it to happen, they must fight against the radicals. If they do not, they will die alongside them when the bulk of the world has finally had enough of the actions of their 'active minority'.
>>55892525
>Worships literal terrorist and his terrorism manual
Islam has nothing to do with terrorists guise!1!1
>>55892525
Yes. Exactly. But it's impossible to separate the wheat from the chaff. And it's also really hard to limit extremist influences over young one's minds. So, while Islam is still so radicalized, it's not healthy for any country that isn't Muslim to receive them
>>55892525
the peaceful majority is irrelevant, it is now with islam, it was with nazi germany, it was with every tyrant. the silent majority will never matter so long as they are peaceful so shut the hell up about the majority of islam is peaceful you literally don't matter
Seems like these threads do a better job of riling up hatred than clucking people with your shitty propaganda.
Pretty based tbqh.
Anyone have the circle picture showing how many "moderate" Muslims support beheading, killing infidels, etc.? Meant to save it yesterday and forgot.
It's the one with pewforum as the source. Blue circles.
The "moderate" mudslimes just say whatever the average kebab lover wants to hear until they're the majority of the population. Don't be surprised to see the moderate kebabs stoning gays in Europe in the next 20-50 years.
>>55892525
>see this kind of post
>scandi of course
>feel less welcome
who needs to adapt? what the fuck man, let's be so nice so they won't join ISIS, wow logic
wew
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>>55894911
Oh I agree that culturally, a lot of muslim countries are 300 (or more) years behind the times. But that's not really the fault of the religion. You can go to Jakarta, and see millions of moderate muslims. Sure they keep a lot of the "traditions" but they aren't stoning people or beheading them in the streets either.
The problem is that radicalism is very very resistant to trying to remove it with force, in fact history has shown it is the exact opposite way to handle it. Look at the Romans, they tried to rid Christianity by oppressing it, look how well that turned out for the Romans. Look at Nazi Germany, trying to rid the world of Jews and made them even more powerful.
Think of radical islam as gigantic pack of /b/ trolls. If you pay them attention, if you attack them, all you do is stir things up even further, you make them more committed. Even if you shut down every one you find, like the head of the hydra, they come back. Think of how you deal with a /b/ troll and thats probably the best way to deal with radical Islam.
>>55892525
>Terrorists are not Muslim.
Almost no Muslims are Terrorist... almost all Terrorist are Muslim...
Where there are few Muslims there are few Terrorist attacks... Where there are a large number of Muslims there are a large number of Terrorist attacks
Make the logical conclusion
>>55895320
>dude just ignore them as they flood your country lol xDDDD
Fuck off, pighammed.
>people unironically trying to compare "hard line christianity" with "hard line islam"
hard line christianity is a southern baptist and her family holding signs saying "America sucks"
the most extreme christianity in 2015 is weaker than "moderate" islam
>>55895320
>Force won't get rid of an idea
Then you aren't using enough force.
>>55894493
>The UAE has been criticized for its human rights record, including the role of Sharia law in its legal system.[14][15][16]
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Arab_Emirates
Also you are a theocracy you dumb fuck. How's that supposed to be a good thing?
Nazis who gassed Jews aren't real Nazis. They're like 0.0001% of the population!!!! The majority of Nazis don't hurt anyone and just want to live in peace surrounded by fellow Aryans.
>>55894452
an 9 year old cannot be consent. They have no sense of sexual awareness.
>>55892655
>This is exactly what ISIS wants to do: Turn the European people against Muslims in Europe, to cause tension between Europeans and Muslims. This will only make Muslims in Europe feel less welcome, and they will become more susceptible to joining ISIS.
this
I undertand /pol/ wants their race war, but I think what needs to happen is a Sufi Renaissance, with sufi leaders getting popular, and inspiring the muslim masses with a new kind of spiritual Islam, something that makes young people feel involved and giving them goals in life and role models other that ALAHU ACKBAR BOOM 72 VIRGINS NOW
These people need a purpose, wont fit in christianity, and certainly won't find it in 420BLAZEIT Western hedonist nihilist culture
>>55892525
http://qpolitical.com/someone-said-muslims-bad-woman-delivers-amazing-response/
thats all I have to say to that
OP BTFO
>>55892525
All muslims are potential terrorist
>>55895471
Never said it was good. I just said that the government here treats you well as long as you respect their cultures and beliefs. I'm totally against Sharia law, but if they do implement some factors of it in, there is literally NOTHING I can do. Same with theocracy.
>>55895455
Name one major religion that has been wiped out by force in the last 300 years.
>>55895445
I'm not saying ignore them, but treat the source issues, not reckless band aids. But then again, people never want to work on hard solutions, they want meme answers.
>>55895555
And quads to boot
>>55892525
>>55892525
At first I was like... but then...
>>55892525
25 religious conflicts, muslims in 21 of them.
Islam, religion of "can't live together with anyone"
>>55895565
>Never said it was good.
Good. So you are agree with me that the problem with islam isnt just suicide bombings :^)
>>55895505
So if terrorism is bad, why other Muslims dont fight against it?
>>55895505
Go fuck yourself.
These fucking subhuman fucks will never be a part of western culture. I'll die before I left any Islamic bullshit take hold in my country
>>55895565
>as long as you respect their cultures and beliefs
DUDE HYPOCRISY LMAO
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=1ZPGzkmb
Islam needs to learn to accept criticism, like every other religion has.
>>55895669
Exactly. Never seen even any march of protest against radical views of islam by muslims.
>>55892800
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjvPj7WAX7A
at about 1/2 of vid
>>55895657
This is the logical ending for all the sandniggers with #notallmuslims
And the keks will still gobble up all their cum.
>>55895056
I fucking hate ISIS, why would I have any reasons to join them?
>>55895747
this is how isis are going to lose.
>>55895794
Protesting doesnt do anything.
They need to police their own communities better and reform their garbage religion asap
>>55895232
Might as well send him the video where you're quoting that from anon, enlighten the ignorants.
>>55895312
I'm just saying that hating Muslims will just cause more problems. Muslims are people too.
>>55895846
wat
>>55892525
No true scotsman
>>55892525
>Terrorists are not Muslim. Terrorists are extremists.
They are muslim extremists.
>>55895869
Even if it doesn't. I still haven't seen even this small sign of protest.
>>55895576
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aum_Shinrikyo
Religion had to be labeled a dangerous cult and monitored. Because of this the cult had no chance to turn into a religion.
>>55893342
>>55893342
>>55893342
because most Christians have common sense unlike the shitskins.
>>55892525
Ayy lmao look at this fish-fucker.
Get the fuck our Norway, your country is literally the shittiest of Europe. Even muslims don't want to live in that garbage can of yours.
Deus Vult, filthy heathen subhuman.
>>55895936
Eliminating all of you would solve a lot of problems.
>child rapists are people too~!
Meme-tier argument.
>>55895936
I hate lib fags who shill for muslims 100x more than actual extremist muslims
>>55895666
First of all
>nice trips
Second of all, I don't think there's much of a problem with Islam, it's just the way some are perceiving it and distorting it. I have MANY Muslim friends who are very faithful, and know that I'm an agnostic. They don't wanna fucking chop my head off and sacrifice me to Allah or some shit. Many are tolerant, it's just those that have turned to extremism in recent years have done so because they have no where else to go.
>>55892800
faggot
>>55892907
Lol
>>55893547
Show me extreme Christians beheading other religions. Just one case of a Catholic person beheading a Muslim in the name of Christmas almighty please?
Didn't think so, fucking faggot mudslime.
Islam isn't compatible with our current century. We hold the power to cleanse the world of their hate.
I am all for every other religion besides Islam. No other religion is ass back ass wards as them.
>>55893342
But Christians dont think everything in the bible came straight from God unlike mudslimes do.
>>55895455
>Violence is the only answer
Then you aren't using enough brain, there are easier and better ways to deal with ideas. The IS knows that and recruits people by talking to them, making them feel welcome and giving their lives a meaning.
If only we also knew how to do that...
>>55896078
Sandnigger, please.
There's no amount of "perceiving" that will make sharia law and your other theological beliefs sane and reasonable.
Also you didn't read that wikipedia page did you?
See this video too:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg
>>55895936
Hahahaha I hate stare every fucking mushit down I see at my university just waiting for one of those walking ghosts to say something smart. Oooooooo I Wish a islmaist would.
>>55896078
You dont see a problem that majority of muslims support killing for apostasy?
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/05/28/which-countries-still-outlaw-apostasy-and-blasphemy/
>>55896351
*a large number of not majority
>>55896078
>sacrifice me to Allah
When it stands choice between you and their God, you will see what they do.
>>55896079
>>55896076
>>55896039
>>55894590
Calling me names won't change the fact that Islam is a peaceful religion. You don't know how to argue in a mature and sensible way so you resort to pitiful name calling. I haven't seen a single good reason for why you hate Muslims. /pol/ confirmed for being uneducated and illiterate
>>55896576
See >>55895650
It's the furthest thing from peaceful, faggot.
>>55896576
If it is a peaceful religion, why do those monkeys in London try to create a zone where sharia is the law?
By the way, I know I´m stereotypical, but stereotypes exists for a reason
>>55896576
>Calling me names won't change the fact that Islam is a peaceful religion.
How do you explain the continuous shit happening for centuries in the middle east over an insignificant detail about their retarded religion ?
Is it peace at work ?
http://www.attackingthedevil.co.uk/related/macgahan.php
There is so much more about those beautiful people and their lovely religion.
>>55896576
you have, ITT, you just chose to ignore it ahmed/troll
>>55892525
1.5B Muslims can overrun ISIS in no time.
Talk is cheap.
What do you do again terrorism?
>muh wrongly interpreted Quran
The entire book is a fucking mess that isn't even organized chronologically. Maybe the moderate Muslims should try to sort out that garbage so you at least won't need to study it for decades to make sense of it.
>>55896747
It is peaceful, it is only EXTREMISTS fighting over insignificant details like who is Shia and who is Sunni, it is not the REAL MUSLIMS who do this.
>>55892525
I haven't stepped out of my racism and islamophobia because the niggers and muzzies keep proving that it's completely justified.
>>55896787
Ya the worst thing about threads like these are when they make claims without sources then when it's refuted they say sources plz??
Then someone posts them and they just ignore it.
Just face you're a delusional person who has bought into some pro-Islam propaganda and live your life.
... 70 years ago a very efficient solution has been invented...
>>55892525
I'm not a racist person, never had been. But now I am legitimately afraid of Muslims. And it saddens me to say it becuase ive met a few muslims, and they were really nice. I'm a metal head. If I was in Paris that night I would of been at that concert. I live in a state with a high Muslim population. I'm signing up for my concealed and carry permit this week, I suggest everyone else do the same
>>55892800
All muslims support hamas
Hamas = extremist
Islam calls heavily for theocracy. It outlines "Shariah Law" which is oppressive and dangerous to Western ideals. The only thing I am truly concerned about with a large swath of Muslim refugees is (besides terrorist attacks) these groups setting up their own unassimilated communities. Muslims are resistant to assimilation, unlike Jews or Christians. These communities may take rape cases or honor killings to mosques instead of the police. If these communities grow it may institutionalize its barbarity. (Kind of like Mormonism in Utah.)
>>55896978
Oh so you think less of people like Barack Obama, Martin Luther King Jr, Ray Charles just because of their race?
Last reminder to watch and spread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjvPj7WAX7A
>>55896576
Prove that Islam is peaceful
Dante Must Die Mode: Don't use the 2015 argument
>>55892525
If not all muslims are terrorists, how come all terrorists are muslim?
>>55896926
Except opinion polls shows that muslims are very much like their ISIS brethren.
Once again, see this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg
this:
>>55896351
and this
>>55896079
But lets keep pretending christians and muslims are the same
>>55896972
>no true scotsman
enough of this
>>55897117
Look, I just think you are a bigot for carrying on like all muslims are in on this together. Truth is, most violently disagree with jihad.
You're not even seeing the beautiful shows of support from muslims worldwide, just focussing on the negatives and the radical elements (that are present in all groups).
Look at what Saudi Arabia has done today, for example. In solidarity with the victims, they have offered to build a mosque in France for each person killed. No media on this though, all the focus is just on the bad people.
>>55897193
never heard of the IRA?
>>55892525
>This is exactly what ISIS wants to do: Turn the European people against Muslims in Europe
I'm pretty sure that ISIS just wants to speed up the demographic shift in Europe by murdering white people. They want Eurabia to come sooner rather than later.
>>55896169
>There is an easier and better way to deal with ideas
See this idea here? It is wrong. Literally destroying the followers of said religion on a global scale solves the problem utterly and relatively quickly.
It requires people to become monsters about it though. It can't be half-assed with only targetting a certain percentage.
It must be global and it must be total, but if it is a total global effort and utter eradication is the goal of those involved? It will be solved.
Yes, that includes killing hospitals full of innocent followers of Islam, children, women, and other innocent followers of the faith. Yes it includes destroying centuries old art and holy relics. Yes it includes being absolute monsters to accomplish the goal, however, that is the absolutely most effective way of stopping this problem.
If you give the enemy somewhere to hide or someone will protect them? Those areas and people must also be destroyed because they are keeping the enemy alive.
Islam can be removed, but the world doesn't have the ruthless pragmatic mentality that is required for it to happen. Humans will never know their potential and solve their problems if they do not abandon their humanity.
>>55897125
>Hurr, you don't like blacks because of just their skin
Barack Obama is an asshole for various reasons.
MLK was an adulterer with an acceptable message.
I like Ray Charles, but it's a shame he turned into a junkie.
None of my opinions on them have anything to do with them being black, or half black in the case of Obama.
It has nothing to do with skin, and with how they act.
Try harder you shithead faggot.
>>55894823
So you agree we shoudn't let foreignors with no respect for our lands in to settle and murder us?
I get confused when liberals post pics of natives in these conversations, you're agreeing with us. These people should not be allowed to invade the land.
The difference is that we're already here, whereas unlike Sitting Bull you actually have a fucking chance to save your continent...
>>55897125
Dude, would you please stop posting bitches with every single reply? It's extremely hard to take anything you say seriously if you use it as an excuse to dump your fap folder. It really isn't helping your case at all.
Just evacuate kids under certain age, and nuke the shit out of this fuckers
I'm tired of this assholes being treated like they are the victims, when all they want is to generate terror around the world.
This Religion is a fucking danger to the human species, period.
Why dont leftist/liberals understand the no true scotsman informal fallacy?
>>55897560
They do, they'll only point it out if you use it to disagree with them.
>>55896576
You can name call all you want, but it will only remove you faster, jihad is starting now, the sides have been set.
1.6 billion Muslims + 100 million rainbow haired faggots
Vs.
The United Allies of the West (1.1 billion with advanced technology)
>>55897339
Yeah those potato munchers that haven't been relevant since I was in preschool? 27 yo here
>>55892525
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur7Ttz0q0o4
This is why every single muslim who has ever said it's about peace is a deceitful lying bastard. I know the doctrine of deceit in Islam that is al taqiyya, no muslim will ever fucking fool me again.
>>55892525
islam equals terrorism
where is islam, there is sand niggers, terrorists are mostly sandnigger muslims, so they blend in for eternal terrorism and survilence on the good people of europe
Global intelligence and security community estimates that roughy 15-25% of Muslims agree with or sympathize with Islamic extremism and/or sharia law.
Best case scenario that's potentially 150 million Muslims worldwide. Does it make all 150mil terrorists? No.
But ISIS and co. Don't just need fighters, they need food, weapons, equipment, transport, shelter, logistics, IT, healthcare, supply chains, and money.
How do you get 8 armed assailants and an explosive device into one of the most Policed and surveilled cities in Europe and massacre 150+ people? With a damned good network of logistical support, a reliable supply chain and plenty of sympathizes to facilitate and hide you. That's how.
So before you tell me that 'not all Muslims are bad' hear this.
YOU as an individual may condemn what happened, but...
Will the CAIR speak out against it and March in solidarity? No.
Will senior Islamic officials in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, UAE, North Africa and prominent Islamic areas in Europe condemn and March in solidarity for the Paris attacks? No.
Will Muslim Parisians March in protest? No.
Will the Syrian government urge it's people to take up arms against ISIS and try to prevent or discourage them from fleeing to Europe? No.
When attacks continue with greater ferocity and frequency and those in a position of power within Islam refuse to speak out, people take that deafening silence as a show of support.
So no. Not all Muslims are bad. But when the leadership remain silent and the extremists get worse, people don't see the moderate, they see extremist.
Extremism is cutting the head off of Islam, and the moderate, silent Muslim is holding the feet still for them to do so.
>>55897439
But you literally just said you were a racist. I never mentioned their skin, I am just saying that just because some black people act like savages, it doesn't mean you should hate the entire race.
>>55897895
But isis isn't Islam, some vox article with a snarky title told me so
>>55893253
For the same reasons that I can safely assume that almost every modern Christian believes homosexuality is an abomination. It says it in their fucking holy book you blind cretin, it also says they're allowed to lie about their faith and their holy book to make it seem peaceful.
How is it not obvious to everyone already that Islam is a violent, extreme ideological cancer that needs to be destroyed?
>>55892525
Live and let live. You go back to your land, Americans go back to their land. But now it's too late for that. Leaders should be smart enough on both sides to prevent war, but seems like those new democratic leaders are much worse than Gaddafi or Saddam, not to mention the bloodshed that is caused by democratic Buddhists in Myanmar right now. What use is that we allow idiots to vote for idiots? Democratic leaders should be just and tied like a dog to their contract commitment to mind their own business for own country in case they try to wage war. But here we have this interconnected world where rich people rule who inherit money from other rich people and are really retarded in their forced believes and then on other hand try to mix all people together, without any plan really.
>>55897895
it doesnt matter that there is peaceful muslims, whereever there is peaceful ones, there is terrorists among them
you are idiot if you let muslims in, because you cannot recognize who is threat and who isnt, making it perfect place to be for terrorist
and muslims breed like rabbits, one or more of their sons will join extreme muslims
it will be hellhole to live in whereever there is "peaceful" muslims nearby, the end
>>55897853
This video at least makes sense. I can understand why you hate Muslims.
>>55892525
>>55895320
That's because they didn't succeed in killing ALL of them.
Isn't Indonesia the largest Muslim country?
Where are they in all of this? Do they ever make comments condemning it? Or have any ISIS related attacks in their country?
>>55898193
I'd like to add that I don't just hate those who use deceit like this but I hate those who don't use deceit and openly declare the writings of the pedo warlord mohammed to be absolutely true and justifiable even more.
>>55894599
This.
>>55892525
>Terrorists are not Muslim.
yes but when 35% of muslims support ISIS in france then ...yea good muslim is dead muslim
Religions are not identities. They are ideologies. They are collections of holy books and prophets and doctrines. Islam is not whatever you want it to be anymore than Catholicism or the KKK are up for debate. These are groups with published works outlining a specific world view.
If you choose to give your name to a religion of hate, a political group of violence, to any ideology that is based around conquest and abuse of others, on rape and objectification, on brutality and holy war -- you are making a choice to condone those teachings. You are choosing to say "I support these things."
If you call yourself a Muslim, and are not in favor of genocide and conversion for everyone else, if you're not in favor of cutting off hands for petty theft, if you're a Muslim woman and you enjoy being able to say "no" -- good for you, you're probably an OK person. But you're also a terrible Muslim, possibly even apostate, which under Sharia law carries the death penalty.
Every majority Muslim country not backed by huge flows of western cash have collapsed in Sharia tyrannies as militant minorities take power and moderate majorities stand by and do nothing. Many of you would not recognize the Islam being practiced here. They would not recognize yours. They would stone you for attending college, rape you for wearing make up -- this is true Islam.
I have no doubt many people in this country who were raised Muslim are mostly fine and good people. The issue is they're "Muslim" in name only. They reject most of the Koran and what Muhammad stood for, and embrace western ideals of tolerance, criticism, restrained but effective self defense, and the rest.
These refugees don't. They know nothing but Sharia tyranny. And they will not ever integrate -- they form their own outposts of extremism, scare others out, and enforce their culture with violence. I dare any American Muslim woman to go over to the Sharia district in Belgium and see how long you last.
>>55898580
Eastern Bro knows whats up, kill either the disgusting ideology or all the followers, simple as that.
>>55893777
This!!!!!!!!!
>>55892525
If the problem was just "religious fundamentalism, the amish would be slaughtering themselves and others.
The problem is not religious fundamentalism but the fundamentalism of Islam.
>>55898580
[citation needed]
>>55892525
>1 billion muslims
>only 30% are extremists!
>300 million extremists
>thats nearly the entire population of the united states
>its just 30% guys!
fuck you. Islam = terrorism. Islam = slavery. Islam = no rights for women or homosexuals. Islam = death to western civilization. The peace majority, also known as the silent majority, do not mean shit. They wont stop the extremists, because they benefit from them and their actions. Islam needs to be erased from the face of this earth. It is an inherently fanatical military doctrine that worships demonic gods hell bent on world domination and genocide and is completely incompatible with any other culture by default.
>>55892525
>Come on /pol/, it's almost 2016
troll-like bullshit detected
>>55898946
I thought /pol/ considered homosexuals degenerate anyway, so isn't Islam a good thing in that sense?
>>55898016
I'm a racist by the definition of faggots like you, who equate pointing out that niggers commit a disproportionate amount of crime and Muslims sure like blowing themselves up to being racist and an islamophobe.
>>55898946
> There are 1.2 billion Muslims in the world today. Of course not all of them are radicals! The majority of them are peaceful people. The radicals are estimated to be between 15 to 25 percent, according to all intelligence services around the world. That leaves 75 percent of them peaceful people. But when you look at 15 to 25 percent of the world's Muslim population, you're looking at 180 million to 300 million people dedicated to the destruction of Western civilization. That is as big [as] the United States. So why should we worry about the radical 15 to 25 percent? Because it is the radicals that kill. Because it is the radicals that behead and massacre. When you look throughout history, when you look at all the lessons of history, most Germans were peaceful. Yet, the Nazis drove the agenda and, as a result, 60 million people died. Almost 14 million in concentration camps; 6 million were Jews. The peaceful majority were irrelevant. When you look at Russia, most Russians were peaceful as well. Yet, the Russians were able to kill 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant. When you look at China, for example, most Chinese were peaceful as well. Yet, the Chinese were able to kill 70 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant. When you look at Japan prior to World War II, most Japanese were peaceful as well. Yet, Japan was able to butcher its way across the Southeast Asia, killing 12 million people, mostly killed with bayonets and shovels. The peaceful majority were irrelevant. On Sept. 11 in the United States, we had 2.3 million Arab Muslims living in the United States. It took 19 hijackers, 19 radicals, to bring America down to its knees, destroy the World Trade Center, attack the Pentagon and kill almost 3,000 Americans that day. The peaceful majority were irrelevant. So for all our powers of reason and for us talking about moderate and peaceful Muslims, I'm glad you're here. But where are the others speaking out?
>>55892525
Nice try, but muslim = terrorist.
>>55899097
A broken clock that's right twice a day is still fucking worthless trash.
>>55893342
>the bible
>the old testament that christians specifically dont have to follow and only learn as a reference to their judaic roots.
>If that were true, why does the christian bible even have the old at testament all?
Because it's part of the history and it's important to know in reference to why jesus was considered so great. Why do we teach about the revolutionary war in american schools? You aren't suppose to go out overthrow king george, right?
The entire point of Christianity is that jesus brought everyone a 'new deal'. You learn about the old deal, the one god made with the jews, in the old testament, so that you can then appreciate how great the one jesus promised. I'm not even a christian but this is pretty fucking basic common sense that only takes a few minutes of thought to figure out. Just look at the fucking terms: old testament/ new testament.
>>55896972
Show us real muslims.
>>55899318
Liberals and religions people rarely seem to actually read these holy books, they just get told the parts their media / teachers / pastors want them to know.
It's a difficult position when you know more about someone faith and the history of its practice than they do.
Moderates may claim they don't agree with the means but they certainly agree with the ends.
>Bait thread
>200+ replies
Every time.
Do we really need 4 of these at once?
sage and ignore
>>55898946
That's not very nice.
>>55899548
In addition to this, try and demonstrate the ways in which "real muslims" are real, while Jihadists are false muslims.
Mandatory questions
1. Do you want to live under sharia law, as in no pork or booze allowed, death to homosexuals, death to apostates and infidels etc?
2. Are you aware of the doctrine of al taqiyya?
3. What are extremists doing that isn't in accordance with scripture taken right out of the Quran?
There can be no peace in the world until the old gods are slain and forgotten.
The muslim god's cult is the most dangerous virus on the planet. Oppose it now or weep for the future
>>55900289
I think if you weren't invading their countries, meddling in their affairs and bombing the shit out of their people and Al Qaeda/ISIS attacked you for no reason, then yeah, more moderates would be more forceful in their condemnation. But they see all the shit you're doing and then you expect them to go out on the street waling when something bad happens.
How about no?
>>55892525
>Terrorists are not Muslim.
But they are. Everyone of them.
>>55901207
Good job of basically calling all Muslims at the very least ISIS sympathizers.
>>55898946
literally wtf. islam made free all those nigger slaves in Saudi Arabia .
>no homosexuals
and is this bad thing since?
>>55901437
come the fuck out. nobody fucking with a mind symptahize isis or whatever fucking terrroist
>>55892525
>>55901207
Me again, I'm not done, Muslims are the only idealists in existence other than full blown ZOG NeoCons that are fine with the idea of intentionally killing non-combatants. It is a stipulation specifically made in the Quran, Mohammed encourages attacks against civilians.
Sorry but no, the ideal of Islam is utterly fucking revolting to me and I want it gone for good, I don't care if we've been bombing them for decades, Islamic culture naturally cultivates terrorism without any provocation.
>>55901437
If that's how you deduce it, so be it. But it won't change anything. You can change the narrative pretend they hate you because their holy book tells them to randomly kill unbelievers blah blah blah.
You fucked up their country twice, when you did decide to leave and you only came back to drone and bomb when they were settling their stupid sectarian differences. 7,800 airstrikes since Sept. 2014 alone and you're fetching for tissues and changing your facebook avis when they retaliate.
>>55901207
Hey, if it was up to me I'd leave them to squabble between themselves, governments don't necessarily represent the desires of their people.
Hell, I remember there being protests against going to war.
>>55901628
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yGN8SlIEZ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhpRlkrMWy8
>>55892897
>people who refuse must die
I don't know where you have read this in the Quran but it's stated in the "Disbelievers" that every individual can believe in whatever region he/she wants.
That's right muslims don't want to rape your daughter, they just want to fuck her when she is 9, and fondle her when she is 6.
It's not rape if she consents.
>>55901628
Obviously they do or they wouldn't exist and they wouldn't be anywhere near as powerful. If anything, Muslims sympathize with ISIS the most over any other terrorist group that has ever existed. The reason why they have gained so much traction is because they follow in the footsteps of their so-called prophet who was equally as violent and barbaric, Islam has almost nothing but extremism and brutality to thank for its success and spread as a religion. The same could be said of Roman Catholicism.
These Muslims see their Imams preach extremism, and say nothing. They see the extremists and hear them talk of murder in Mosques and Muslims do nothing. They choose to remain silent and not out their radicals therefor they have chosen to side with the radicals and are as much the enemy as the terrorists. Silence is just another form of consent.
>>55892655
This meme has to stop
>>55902217
These Westerners consent their government bombing and droning Muslims countries. They repeatedly vote for them and mandate their actions and do nothing. They choose to remain silent and continuously vote for warmongers and therefore they have chosen to side with them and are as much the enemy as their leaders. Their votes is just another form of consent.....
When you hold Westerners responsible by default for the actions of their governments (like they do with Muslims)...because you know...they actually voted for them and mandated their actions unlike Muslims with ISIS.....then they start to get all uncomfortable....
But ofcourse it's totally unacceptable for Muslims to think like this......
>>55897285
Offered to build a mosque? That is the most vile thing I've ever heard. Lol that's like America offering to build an American flag monument in japan for
every Japanese person we killed in Hiroshima. Thst insult is fucking grounds for war
>>55902526
The truth has to stop, telling the truth is racist in 2016. Fucking kill yourself Mohammed. No ones buying it its time to play Islam back in blood.
"moderate" muslims need to either break off and start a reformation or actually fight these assholes instead of being le deeply concerned man
>>55902789
I 100% support laying waste to every square inch of the middle east with out restraint or mercy. I also favor deporting anyone who supports Islam there before the attack. Fuck every sand nigger on the planet if they wont turn these cowardly fucks over then they can die with them. No more peace no more Muslim lies.
>>55903025
We know that already, have fun with ISIS :)
>>55902789
You're full of shit. When the US pulled out of Iraq they were holding public elections. Then ISIS came along and started taking over towns. Now our people have been begging the government to do something to stop ISIS and for 3 years they've been unwilling, even in Syria as they face off with Russia instead of working together to destroy ISIS.
So, before you talk shit, maybe you should pay attention to American outcry for once. You fucks beg us for intervention often enough and then blame us for doing so. Fuck you.
>>55892655
I'm a muslim and EVERY other muslim I know doesn't support ISIS or any other terror group
>>55892800
26% of them in the UK supported the Charlie Hebdo attacks
>>55897853
>I know the doctrine of deceit in Islam that is al taqiyya
No, you actually don't.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiya
Islam advocates violence. Islam advocates overthrowing Western values. Islam is incomaptible with the American way of life. I hate their shitty religion. I hate their shitty culture. I hope they all side with ISIS so we can justify wiping them off of the face of the earth.
>>55903172
Are you retarded? why is it any of your business what town they take over? why isn't it Iraq's business, the region's business? You poured billions into their military and they still fled. You put in in that Shiite tyrant Maliki and he led to all this shit. You think you can prop them up forever? why don't you say if the Arab world doesn't finish off ISIS, we will cut of all ties and put them on sanctions, no use of American banks, military aid etc till they get their house in order? but no, instead you think bombing your way will lead to victory...how did that work in Iraq? who is that working in Afghanistan? how is it working in Libya, Syria.
>>55903263
The 26% that's Muslim I bet.
>>55892525
Because the Qur'an says to kill everyone that does not agree. Go read a book.
>>55897285
>Truth is, most violently disagree with Jihad
See? They can't even disagree with terrorists without being violent :^)
>>55903395
>Islam advocates violence
No, it doesn't.
>Islam advocates overthrowing Western values
No, it doesn't.
>Islam is incomaptible with the American way of life.
No, it isn't.
>I hate their shitty religion. I hate their shitty culture. I hope they all side with ISIS so we can justify wiping them off of the face of the earth.
Why are you so mean, Chad? You're supposed to be the civilised one, remember. No need to chimp out here. :^)
>>55903236
How do you and many of the other Muslims you know typically react to satirical depictions of Muhammed and Islam?
fuck off we've fed up with your shit, it's over
>>55903638
I don't treat 3rd world savages with any measure of civility. Sharia law is 100% incomaptible with what your average Western country finds to be normal and acceptable.
>>55892525
OK moderates are sympathizers and have absolutely no history of alerting authorities to possible radical Islamist threats.
I attribute it to your fear of prosecution and a unwillingness to consider the possibilty of indoctrination.
With that said, you are running out of time.
>>55903236
How do you feel when you see your beloved muhammad on those rather offensive drawings above? What would you do to the perpetrator of those drawings? Be sincere
>>55903590
>Qur'an says to kill everyone that does not agree. Go read a book.
Maybe you should read a book, for starters the first sentence in your own pic. The first sentence: "punishment fot those WHO WAGE WAR" :^)
>>55903638
>Islam is incomaptible with the American way of life.
Wait! So, in an Islamic society, I can hang out with my friends in a bar on a friday night, drink alcohol, dance with girls, and then bring one home and fucks her brain out?
And then I can go at my local atheist conversion center and preach the glory of apostasy to muslims?
Fuck off.
>>55892907
This is the exact same argument that feminists use against "not all men".
It's nice to see that someone has made this image
>>55892525
These are clearly troll threads.
Muslims are evil, at least 30% of them are anyway. Anyone who has read the poll data knows it.
>>55903525
>How dare you get involved in the ME?!
>What?! You're backing out f the ME how dare you?!?!
Fuck the EU and their shitty opinions, and fuck you. You faggots will never be happy no matter what our military does, and you'll always scream at us for support when you're attacked.
>Lybia, Syria
I already hinted at this but you're too stupid to understand.
>>55903832
>I don't treat 3rd world savages with any measure of civility.
But Chad, you're supposed to be the "civilized" one. :^)
>Sharia law is 100% incomaptible with what your average Western country finds to be normal and acceptable.
Who the hell did say Sharia is compatible with Western countries? :^)
>>55903856
>How do you feel when you see your beloved muhammad on those rather offensive drawings above?
I don't feel nothing at all.
>What would you do to the perpetrator of those drawings? Be sincere
Absolutely nothing. He lives in a country that grants him the right to do so and I absolutely don't care about him one way or another. :^)
>not a muslim
>procedes to post blue eyed converts on every post
>>55892525
The earliest biography (sirat) of Muhammad's life is the work of Ibn Ishaq (85-151 A.H.) who was born in Medina. In this we learn of Muhammad's actions after he had conquered the towns of Khaybar. This event is also accepted and recorded by Ibn Kathir [1].
THE REST OF THE AFFAIR OF KHAYBAR
Kinana b. al-Rabi`, who had the custody of the treasure of B. al-Nadir, was brought to the apostle who asked him about it. He denied that he knew where it was. A Jew came (T. was brought) to the apostle and said that he had seen Kinana going round a certain ruin every morning early. When the apostle said to Kinana, "Do you know that if we find you have it I shall kill you?" he said Yes. The apostle gave orders that the ruin was to be excavated and some of the treasure was found. When he asked him about the rest he refused to produce it, so the apostle gave orders to al-Zubayr b. al-`Awwam, "Torture him until you extract what he has," so he kindled a fire with flint and steel on his chest until he was nearly dead. Then the apostle delivered him to Muhammad b. Maslama and he struck off his head, in revenge for his brother Mahmud. (Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Allah, translated as, The Life of Muhammad, (tr. A. Guillaume), Karachi: Oxford University Press, 1998, p. 515.)
This action of Muhammad teaches us a very important point about his character. He was the type of man who used torture to achieve his goals. In this case he wanted the treasure of the tribe of al-Nadir. The custodian of the treasure would not give it to him, therefore Muhammad gave the order to have him tortured. Muhammad's companions knew how to torture someone and proceeded to do so. This is the type of man Muhammad was. He could be merciful and forgiving if he wanted to be, but he could also have someone tortured for money to expand his empire. In this regard Muhammad is like ordinary kings and dictators throughout human history.
>>55904134
>Who the hell did say Sharia is compatible with Western countries? :^)
>>55903638
>Islam is incomaptible with the American way of life.
>No, it isn't.
>>55903980
No, but you can be muslim and practice Islam in American society without any problem. You are granted freedom of religion, among many other things. :^) In case you're mentally challenged: I'm not saying that this goes the other way too, that American way of life is compatible with Sharia. :^)
>>55892525
>it does
/thread
If a mudslim will act civil in public I will treat him like everyone else. If he is like the majority of first world people that really doesn't care about his religion and just in it because he was born with it I can even become friends with him.
That doesn't change that their religion is complete bullshit and that I hate all sandniggers.
>>55904454
>No, but you can be muslim and practice Islam in American society without any problem
Wow. So you're saying the Kuffr system allows muslims to practice their religion and way of life, but the Islamic system doesn't allow non believer to live as they see fit?
Pick an ice pick and drive it through your eye.
