>Yes, why not. But videos on Internet are too easily taken down. Nothing can stop a sheet of paper put in a mailbox, or nailed on a wall. An idea can spread when it is washed on the face of everyone in their everyday life.
The problem with /pol is that it's a closed internet community of autistic virgins. We aren't actually doing anything beside trolling sjws and voting on polls and complaining about degeneracy. Regardless, issues raised here are important and should be heard by everyone. So how do we spread the message of anti-sjw/anti-progressivism/anti-degeneracy/anti-joo?
My idea is starting something like RedPillMovement here on /pol, which basically means burning educational material on dvds and stuffing it into mailboxes. Yeah, sounds dumb, but average westerner's attention is taken away from important issues by all the cat videos and kim kardashians and dumb shit like that. Forcing people to educate themselves is, I think, the best way to actually achieve something. You know, doing something in the real world.
So, let's start with immigration and multiculturalism. This is what I want this thread to be about. Your job is to answer this question: >If you could send a dvd to a random person's mailbox to redpill him about immigration or multiculturalism, what material would you burn onto it?
Let's begin.
How bout b*mb facebook headquarters and fireb*mb tv stations to actually get rid of the bread and circuses
>>55819640
Breivik did something similar and it hurt the right.
You have my support.
>>55818783
>>If you could send a dvd to a random person's mailbox to redpill him about immigration or multiculturalism, what material would you burn onto it?
With Open Gates. If that does not wake people up, nothing will.
>>55821052
Thanks. Where is everyone else? Jerking to c.uc.k porn perhaps
Paper nailed to a wall will easily be torn down and have you charged under various littering laws.
Misuse of the postal system is a felony as well.
As for sending unsolicited propaganda DVDs? Scientology does that.
>>55818783
gb2/twitter, faggot
activist cancer like you was banished long ago for a good reason
what you seem to misunderstand that a single post, a single line of text, a single shared photo spread by leftist will have 100000000000x the effect of any red pill shared on there.
People are too kekd and they wont change, maybe 5% but everyone will stay kekd.
>>55821314
if they find you, yeah. Anyway, you are free to make another suggestion. Better than nothing.
And I shall.
>>55821438
Hmm, indeed...
What if a brave anon were to, say, hijack liberal twitters and kikebooks to- temporarily- spread subtle propaganda? Tweets that make them seem like they've come to a sudden revelation, make the lefty shitcocks think it was their idea.
>>55821438
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44vzMNG2fZc
Even this?
>>55818783
That's actually not a bad idea. I wholeheartedly support this
Obviously multiculti classes plus a lack of resources lead to shitty education. I'd show some shitty class with multiculti assholes.
>>55821636
YES!
I recommend Josh McIntosh as the first target.
>>55818783
/pol/ is an imageboard, not a community. Anon could have a completely different opinion on the same idea from one thread to the next, be mindful of what your dealing with.
>>55821676
Find internet platforms and post the truth EVERYWHERE. You can take one video down, but can you take down even a hundred if a hundred more pop up in an hour? I don't think so.
>>55821800
There are some things we can all agree on. Or at least the majority.
>>55821820
If you're going to do this, you have to be relentless. You cannot simply do this for a week or so and just give up so it can fade into nothingness. You have to hammer it everywhere all the time and MAKE people pay attention.
>>55821881
So lets find common grounds and spread them. This is basically what I intended. Involvement of jews in spreading this shit, hypocrisy of israel not being moralized to when they close the borders to refugees while europeans are, actual facts about crime rates, etc.
>>55821999
>MAKE people pay attention
That's why I think putting a video in mailbox is better than putting a video on youtube.
>>55822154
Don't underestimate the power of social media.
>>55822314
But isn't that precisely the problem, people have a choice to not click on a video. Internet gives you what you want and what you want to hear. There are hundreds of millions of white people on this planet. How many of them have found themselves in politically incorrect corners of the internet? Well, not many. Cat videos on the other hand...
I'd agree that slipping them into mailboxes (at night, duh) could work better than internet, but that's going to get very costly after a short amount of time.
Fliers and pamphlets are cheap but easily disregarded at this point by anyone, since most of those are poorly-Xeroxed marxist newsletters.
>>55822668
>people have a choice to not click on a video
Unless its everywhere.
>>55822935
>Fliers and pamphlets
are for antifa lefties. I personally don't advocate that for the same reason as you.
>>55822314
>>55822668
You have to realize that social medias are full of leftists who will have no regret to call you a nazi, and destroy your reputation, your life, turn your friends against you and all these things.
If you put it in a mailbox, you can do it anonymously, by night, with discretion, using gloves. You spread your idea and you go back to the nobody's crowd. But in the morning someone will find this in the mailbox. He will not know what happened, who did it, but he will have the idea in his hands. It will be up to him to watch or not.
>>55823062
Well yes, I am very happy that "With open gates" video has almost 2 million views on youtube. But that's not enough.
>>55823272
Exactly. What kind of video/book/article/whatever would you put in mailbox in light of paris attack and refugee crisis?
>>55823118
that too, fuck antifa
I'm gonna post random links on this thread that I would burn onto my dvd. Everyone please do the same.
>>55823632
At this point, anything is good to take. Tracts (even if it looks like antifa lefty shit) with a speech that call to the common sense of anyone. Videos, like With Open Gates (maybe edited, since some part like the Jew part seems to be "problematic" for the credibility of the video), or others that tell the same truth. For the books, I don't think of any right now. We can even put some of the charts, suveys (like the one we see these days about "moderate" muslims, or of the same kind) that state facts. It needs to be things they can't refute. But only the one we are sure are true, with fiable sources.
Remember they will find it in the morning, they will be alone, they will read/watch, think about it alone, they will speak to this with neighbours, friends (maybe some of them will receive these redpills too). That's how, quietly, an idea have spread. Now imagine this in all the cities where an anon will do this act.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgSoEbC3UWU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1BJmB0ZuXI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz_uEGQIsGU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8SwLm6YG64
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKEMsZQUuII
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw9EhjyU3JU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNWPYQjXSYA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ4CeNu6Vr4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yud4Me9hZ1U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nBzJdQB5r4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz8pzG02oxU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrt6msZmU7Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGarmqCQfXw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO6qZUaBbTs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2qYs2N729Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5nzjkmtCOc
>>55824343
At what point does /pol start losing credibility? When it comes to jews? Maybe showing the fact that those jews who advocate immigration don't have the same goals for israel would be a powerful message?
>>55824859
It loses credibility when it devolves to memes.
>>55824859
I don't know, I was refering to something I read in another thread, where someone stated that what could be nefast to the power of the video was the very last part with the Jew lady. The Jew question is a delicate question that sould be handled with care, maybe more than the Muslim one. Yeah maybe by pointing the inconsistencies of Jew and Israel dialogue.
>>55825325
I agree that the jew part stuck out suddenly. It's a poignant clip, but it has nothing to do with the subject material to the untrained eye; the eyes we're trying to attract with it.
>>55825267
Not to mention that most likely /pol/ (and many other sites) has been infiltrated in one or more ways.
Such infiltration could easily seed discontent (thus causing splits in the community) or cause it to lose credibility.
Best/worst part is that due to the anonymous nature it is impossible to tell if it was a conscious action to undermine the movement or the movement itself being composed of idiots
>>55825267
>>55825325
Maybe we should pretend we are simply concerned students who fight sjws, something like sargon of akkad and thunderfoot.
>>55821800
>>55821394
These sound like shills, shake that they're posting under the American flag.
/pol/ is a white and right-wing website, even if a nigger somehow stumbles upon here while searching for watermelon porn that doesn't change the identity of this community. We recognize that multiculturalism is a jew-engineer weapon to subvert the racial demographics of Europe and displace ethnic Europeans. If /pol/ can do something to educate the masses on this reality who have been indoctrinated with leftist propaganda, then /pol/ will be accomplishing a noble and laudable goal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKcWu0tsiZM
>>55825912
*shame not shake, posting on a phone
>>55825912
I actually consider myself left within my own country. But I recognize that mass immigration is a death knell for civilized countries. That is why I consider myself a nationalist.
>>55825325
Last thing I am going to say (because I have to go) is that what would be good is to get some testimonies of European people living near or inside zones where refugees/muslim population is at their biggest number. Like the one in With Open Gates, but many more of them. The one who truly sees how refugees behave, the one who are scared and have nothing to lose by sharing their worries. If you can, join friends/people who live near and can put you in contact. Find a way. One testimony edited in a video can be seen as propaganda. A lot of testimonies ? Not so much.
That's all for me, good day/goodnight my friends, keep hope and keep fighting.
>>55825946
>>55825572
>>55825556
>>55825325
Okay, so the question is red pill or pink pill. Both are better than blue pill. We should decide, then we need to accumulate information that could be put into one "wake up" video that would be available to everyone.
Use https://firedrop.com for backing up all the video streams, zip archives. They will not get removed.
https://firedrop.com/a60314131f7dfc9
(open borders vid)
>>55826140
There is a lot of people with bad refugee experience where I live. Good night!
>>55818783
Link them this
http://www.kas.de/wf/doc/kas_36349-1522-1-30.pdf?131211155732
>>55826285
https://firedrop.com/a60314131f7dfc9e
oops
>>55826375
>https://firedrop.com/a60314131f7dfc9e
>>55826338
Thank you!
>>55826338
mirrored
https://firedrop.com/fcfd3aaeb4af6c7f
>>55826180
To be honest, the Open Gates video would be great to keep using for a while. If we edit out the /pol/ bit at the front and the jew part at the end, we can more easily snag casuals and adults who can't into the internet like we can.
We NEED to catch the boomers.
>>55826945
>and the jew part at the end
Why? The fucking bitch literally says it right there.
>>55818783
I recommend you all study the foundations of the Red Revolutions in Russia (I use the plural because there was one in 1905 as well as 1917). There were terror groups with names like People's Will, Black Repartition, and others which exclusively targeted state players. They didn't slaughter innocents and this earned them credibility with the peasants. They also went out and spread their message person to person. This is absolutely necessary. It requires devotion to the cause because you will be ridiculed, censored, perhaps even jailed. Leon Trotsky was arrested and deported over and over again. If we don't have at least a few of us who are absolutely committed - committed enough to put our goals ahead of our personal lives - we will get nowhere.
Studying dialectics will also be essential. As you pointed out OP we need to remove the grey area. We need to manipulate the average person's context. It must be framed as a conflict of us versus them.
We live in the Information Age. We can churn out propaganda more quickly and reach more people now than was possible at any time in history.
Are you in college? Good, print out some flyers and hand them out. Do you live in a city? Good, go out to the corner and hand out fliers.
Study the Bolsheviks. Learn why they were successful and adapt your approach accordingly.
>>55826945
yeah, we need to catch large voting groups like the elderly and women. Women need to become afraid.
>>55827054
>One fringe Jew said a thing
>JEWLUMINATI! JEWLUMINATI! JEWLUMINATI! JEWLUMINATI! JEWLUMINATI! JEWLUMINATI! JEWLUMINATI! JEWLUMINATI! JEWLUMINATI!
Get it together, you autists.
Does anyone have a link to the video that COMPLETELY refutes this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvOnXh3NN9w
>>55827255
But it is the jews. The question is whether this is something average bluepill individual can accept or not.
>>55827054
Yes, I know, but the entire 19 minutes is about sand niggers going ape on dainty europe, and then at the end it's like DA JOOS, it's an instant turnoff for normal people, even though they did watch the whole thing.
>>55827255
>One real Jew said exactly what the plan was
>We have now seen the result of said plan
>>55827065
Will do.
>>55827498
They won't. It looks insane and discredits the whole video.
>>55818783
Videos is best. For example in France we have an asshole named Alain Soral whose hobby is to half-redpill people through trimestrial 4-hours-long videos. Thanks to his activity now people are talking about kikes again but this guy nevers tells any about the white genocide, the white girls rape epidemic, or the inherent bullshit that constitute the doctrine of Islam, and so on and so on. His website is in the 500 top websites in France
>>55827749
>It looks insane and discredits the whole video.
After 18 minutes of exactly what that woman said? Why don't you want people to know about the Jews?
>>55818783
I feel like most of what /pol/ knows is pretty well understood, it's just that people don't think about it, because it's a drag.
For Americans at least, the majority of people know, at least on some level, that blacks as a group are dumb and criminal, but there's nothing anyone is willing to do about it, so they just sort of go on with their lives.
What makes that With Open Gates video effective is that it shows things that people haven't seen. It takes a talent for ignoring the obvious to think that Europe can be swarmed with Middle Eastern refugees and have everything be great, but we don't really think about it, and the media focuses on the wrong things. The huge throng of people walking towards Germany is terrifying; it looks like a scene from an apocalyptic film. Most people have never seen that, but they've all seen the photograph of the little drowned boy.
I'd just recommend flyers. I work in the office for a non-profit arts organization, and we run a lot of mailings. It's not that hard to do, and a snazzy half-sheet flyer that just presents information. A photograph of the refugees that people haven't seen to understand the scale, and data from the opinion polls about Muslim support for things like Sharia law and bombings will red-pill the shit out of people. If somebody mailed me a DVD I probably wouldn't watch it. I'll read pretty much any flyer that comes in the mail, and they're a lot cheaper to produce.
>>55827902
Any sane person is going to get to the Jew part and think to themselves, "Oh, a Nazi made this video. They're probably just grossly over-exaggerating the refugee crisis."
I don't give a shit about JOOZ one way or the other, but those last 15 seconds are normie repellent.
>>55827393
>PHOBIA
fuck this video, I want to see the debunking
>>55827749
Let's focus on exposing sjws and leftie activists for morons then. By statistics, cold facts and logic. And let's avoid jews, except when they are openly hypocritical.
>>55828091
nonono, you cannot expose lefties, because the left is their religion and you cannot argue against religion, only kill it. Arguing gives them attention.
>>55826108
So you're part of the alt right now. the right that doesn't give a shit about the christian conservative's values.
>>55828091
THIS, /pol/. You have to be a bit more subtle with the red pill. The refugee crisis is a great way to start, but people aren't ready for the whole Jooz did it all thing yet.
>>55828168
I know, our goal is to change the view of average dumbfuck who watches tv his whole day and has seen this video and blindly believed.
>>55828056
There is a video somewhere, I just forgot the name.
>>55828194
We agree then. Any objections, /pol?
>>55828048
>They're probably just grossly over-exaggerating the refugee crisis."
AFTER 18 MINUTES OF DIRECT FUCKING FOOTAGE?
>>55828177
>the right that doesn't give a shit about the christian conservative's values.
What would I give a shit about a religious authoritarian system that's just a less violent version of Islam?
>>55827951
>If somebody mailed me a DVD I probably wouldn't watch it. I'll read pretty much any flyer that comes in the mail, and they're a lot cheaper to produce.
Really? It's the opposite with me.
>>55827054
This, hell even add in the fact that the jews own virtually every media corporation in America.
>>55827065
>We live in the Information Age. We can churn out propaganda more quickly and reach more people now than was possible at any time in history.
>Are you in college? Good, print out some flyers and hand them out. Do you live in a city? Good, go out to the corner and hand out fliers.
>Study the Bolsheviks. Learn why they were successful and adapt your approach accordingly.
I think you're right, but I think our Slovenian friend is right that it needs some level of organization, or organizer, to develop materials at least.
Rather than have a person make a flyer and hand it out, having people distribute a very well-made flyer would be better. Especially if it links to a website where people can print / order copies of materials for their own distribution.
What makes this harder than pushing communism, is that there's no real goal, or vision. It's a negative movement in that it's against what's going on; it doesn't offer a solution.
That's why Farage can gather support, because he's asking people to leave the Union, not just complaining about how it's run. Even Trump saying that we need deport illegal immigrants is more of a call to action than saying that we're being too lazy on it. It's strange, because most people don't want to deport everyone, and don't think that we should, but they're drawn to someone who says that because it sounds more active, and people are drawn to action.
If you say, "We need to take in fewer refugees, or screen them, because refugees are causing problems," people might listen, but they won't really do much about it. Whereas if you say, "We need to deport these refugees," people will start really looking at the damage their causing.
>>55828548
>AFTER 18 MINUTES OF DIRECT FUCKING FOOTAGE?
Never underestimate the amazing ability of your average human to have two completely opposite views of the world at once and hold them both true
>>55828194
Correct. We can give them hints at who is behind it, we can help lead them to form their own conclusions, but we can't come out and tell them the truth about Jewish influence. That is so far beyond the pale of the Overton Window that normies will just tune out and move on. Our mission should be to move the limits of public discourse to the right so that eventually we can unload the information about the Jewish role in multiculturalism, Marxism, etc.
>>55828548
>>55828753
Damn I'm really confused now. Jewpill or not?
>>55824475
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO6qZUaBbTs
1:05
fucking lold..dat aura
>>55828091
>>55828194
If I may make a suggestion. And this doesn't apply to the extreme authoritarian right.
When redpilling, be pro gay and such. Be pro equality and rights. This will get more people to listen. But make the point that you are pro all that within our own civilized country/society. The barbarians at the gates are not.
>>55828750
That's crazy. I don't know, if a DVD somebody burned showed up in my mail box, I guess I might watch it, but probably not. Unless it had a professional looking label and case that made it obvious that somebody put some money into it.
Flyers, though, I'll read that stuff. Every election, I get tons of them. It's just an oversized postcard on thick, glossy paper with pictures and text.
>>55818783
Collegefag here. I'll start printing leaflets or spreading awareness best I can anonymously here.
>can any Polish bros confirm that you still have open borders into Germany? I've been thinking of dropping the good life in the US to come over and help with the effort.
>TFW Euros still haven't figured out zip guns
Here's how this is going to go down
"I'm fucking autistic let me burn a dvd of bullshit and put it some dumb assholes mailbox so they can be enlightened."
"Who put this gay ass dvd in my mailbox? Into the trash it goes."
Does anyone remember resist?
It was a daily thread here on pol way before the great kekening.
Resistance in physics works against a given system, much as a person and the will of that individual can resist a given system.
Do make it hard for them.
If this world had systems in place that benefit us then we wouldn't be talking about any of this.
We the people, we the producers, we the consumers must act in ways that counter the minority of people with the majority of power.
Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Remember why we had checks and balances?
Does anyone remember that Washington told us the two party system would be the death of democracy?
>>55828992
To turn the whole issue into "immigrants will destroy our progressive values", yeah that's what lots of libertarian minded people do.
>>55829186
On the other hand, I always throw flyers away. We should do both.
>>55829478
>To turn the whole issue into "immigrants will destroy our progressive values"
But it's true.
You can't push the red pill on people. Think about yourself - were you "recruited" to /pol/? Or did you redpill yourself? People are naturally aversive to propaganda that goes against their prejudices. Even if what you're saying to them is true, the fact that you've gone out of your way to say it and tried to convince them will make them suspicious. You could be telling them that bacon comes from pigs, but unless it's a belief that they already hold, the average person will by nature reject that information. People do not like to be knowingly influenced.
The only working strategy for now is to simply produce the material on the internet and allow people to find it on their own. Ideally the web should become so saturated by our message that a large enough portion of the population will stumble upon the pictures, the videos and the documents we produce. This can be done via reddit, facebook, etc. Even 4chan is fairly mainstream today, so posting the material directly to /pol/ is not completely masturbatory.
When people read our texts and watch our videos on their own accord they will accept the message if they are suspectible. If there are to be any attempts to go our and reach individuals, the material given to them should not contain much more than the taste of the truth that will make them curious enough to seek it out on their own. But dumping a fat load of anti-sjw, anti-jew or anti-whatever propaganda on people will only turn them off.
>>55829334
good!
>>55829423
Not all of them. When was the last time someone put a cd into your mailbox? Not everyone will react that way, especially not now when whole fucking west is getting tired of PCness.
>>55829470
Maybe the whole thing I'm trying to do should be renamed into something like that. #Resist
>>55829703
It most definitely is.
>>55829757
>You can't push the red pill on people
Ok, but if people are getting their head filled with poopaganda anyway, so why not /polpoopaganda? Better than marxpoopaganda.
>>55830148
#Resist is good. Could be a nice Twitter campaign. We can do it along with #WhiteGenocide and link the YouTube vids. #WhiteGenocide is informative but #Resist is more of a call to arms, something to rally behind.
Yeah, forcing redpill will just make people bitter and resentful about it. I took the redpill as a kid while having the bluepill. I found out there was a redpill and I thought, "I wonder what this does?"
>>55830349
>#Resist is more of a call to arms, something to rally behind.
This.
>>55829757
>You can't push the red pill on people. Think about yourself - were you "recruited" to /pol/? Or did you redpill yourself? People are naturally aversive to propaganda that goes against their prejudices. Even if what you're saying to them is true, the fact that you've gone out of your way to say it and tried to convince them will make them suspicious. You could be telling them that bacon comes from pigs, but unless it's a belief that they already hold, the average person will by nature reject that information. People do not like to be knowingly influenced.
True, but I think a percentage of the population is naturally susceptible, and already more or less has these biases.
I agree that you're wasting your time if you're trying to convince some people something that goes against their beliefs, but the guy who's going about his life, pissed off about immigrants will accept it immediately.
In the advertising that we do for our arts organization, there are two kinds of campaigns. There are campaigns to find people who are already disinclined to support us, but don't really know about us. If we figure that 10% of people would be interested, 5% of people would be very interested, then 1% of people will be a zealot, then 1,000 people contacted gets 100 intrigued, of which 50 are converts, and 10 are fanatics. It's just a numbers game.
The second kind of campaign we run is to turn interested people into buyers, and buyers into donors, and donors into huge donors. For us, that's just about radicalizing the people we already know are interested.
>>55830826
>who are already disinclined to support us,
already inclined to support us, obviously
Bomb or cut the Internet cables. Or more feasibly, make improvised phone jammers and emp devices.
Literally the only way.
Cause local outages in whatever way possible.
>>55830405
What would you do then. Some ride the tiger julius evola thing? I want people to at least know opposition to dominant politically correct interpretation exists.
>>55831815
Riding the tiger would be cool and all, but the red pill has to be subtly presented to them, as a fork in the road, presented to them from no source at all, like "you already know what's over this way, but what's down that road?"
You have to have them discover it for themselves, though, lefties are obsessed with themselves and need to think it was their idea.
>>55818783
If there's one thing I've learned from all the years of media propaganda, it's that you can't be blatant about this kind of shit.
The whole reason /pol/ works as a means of redpilling people is that it's insidious - people come here with a certain set of views, they argue with people here, they keep coming back, and eventually a day comes when someone makes just the right point or argument and they conceded "okay you're not completely wrong".
And then another, and another, and over weeks and months your worldview changes.
THAT is how you win - you've gotta be sneaky, sly, subversive. You don't redpill people by force, you have to make them want to do it, you make them think it was there idea in the first place.
pic related is subversive, subtle, screaming ITS DA JOOS and stuffing poorly edited DVDs into people's mailboxes is not
>>55832951
>lefties are obsessed with themselves and need to think it was their idea
kek. Maybe we need to turn everything into "evil white people want refugees here as a workforce and to atomize society, true marxist/progressive/leftist would never support that."
>>55833452
Perharps you're right. Regardless, collecting or accumulating information that is familiar to average /pol/ack but not to average joe into one ultimate redpill video would be something I would support.
>>55833452
>you've gotta be sneaky, sly, subversive
>You don't redpill people by force
>pic related is subversive, subtle
>subtle
KEK
i agree with you gotta be subtle though but damn idk if that pic is subtle desu.
