What happened in Paris was a perfect example of the idiocy of the Second Amendment.
Do people really carry guns to concerts in the USA? So a security guard at the venue entrance shouldn't take your weapons if you have any, but instead ask: "are you a good guy"? Even if in such an event EVERYBODY would carry a gun, there would be suddenly extreme amounts of confusion and fear, leading to many armed non-attackers to attack other non-attackers (how are you supposed to identify the attacker if anybody is pointing at and shooting at everybody). Leading to many more deaths than from the actual attackers.
Also, how exactly do American gun nuts think guns would help against suicide bombers? Don't be dismissive. I'm geniunely curious of the gun nut psyche.
And how did those French people defend themselves when they we're getting mowed down?
>>55809381
Ha ha hey pussy u mad u can only own a 1864 moose hunting rifle? LmaoOoOoOo weed smoking pussy
>>55809381
Stop shitposting and get back on the hat rack.
Canadian posters can't even shitpost right.
Don't give this faggot replies. Sage goes in all fields.
>>55809381
>What happened in Paris was a perfect example of the idiocy of the "gun free zone"
canada explain how guns were able to pass the gun free zone of that paris venue?
>>55809614
That's more of a problem with implementation, not the concept.
>>55809381
Canada was supposed to be number 2 top shitposters after Australians. You're a disappointment to your countrymen.
1/10
>>55809381
>Even if in such an event EVERYBODY would carry a gun, there would be suddenly extreme amounts of confusion and fear, leading to many armed non-attackers to attack other non-attackers (how are you supposed to identify the attacker if anybody is pointing at and shooting at everybody). Leading to many more deaths than from the actual attackers.
Many mass shootings have been stopped/prevented by carrying gun owners in the U.S. and THIS HAS NEVER ONCE HAPPENED. Will you liberal idiots stop using this idiotic cascade of violence argument from your bizarre gore fetish fantasies?
>>55809381
Except that has never happened in the US.
Shooters in Concealed carry states are generally taken down quickly, and no citizens kill each other.
Also, the man in you're picture is completely correct. Disarming citizens inevitably leads to loss of citizen power to the elite. Look what has happened in europe.
>>55809381
Horsey draws fat white dudes with guns so much.
I wonder if he has a secret fetish for them where he makes them even fatter and gives them more guns.
My reasoning? California.
>>55809381
Yes. many people carry weapons on them to events, and truthfully if you have a CC I don't think they are legally allowed to take your firearm
>>55809381
Security searches everyone for weapons and takes them but that doesn't stop people from trying anyway and some get them through
>>55809381
Nah, most concert halls here are gun-free zones.
>>55809737
How do you know it was going to be a mass shooting if it never happened?
For all we know it could have been some "responsible gun owner" drawing his weapon against some perceived threat and then being gunned down by another "responsible gun owner".
>>55809381
The real purpose of the 2nd amendment was to allow for people to defend themselves not from crimes or terrorists but from government tyranny in the event of a civil war.
However, the people who want guns removed are more concerned with preventing gun crime however we see in a country where guns are banned if people want to get guns and commit gun crime, they can. The only people gun laws prevent from owning guns are people who would generally not use them for crime.
>>55809381
The reality is that open carry and concealed carry have literally had zero impact on crime. In fact, it's like you said, incidents where someone did have a gun has led to many accidental shootings of bystanders, and the purpetrators they were aiming at getting away.
You have to remember that America is heavily controlled by lobbyists. The NRA is a big one, since there's a lot of money in the sale of firearms and ammunition. They decide how to create a scare tactic, and lots of ignorant rednecks fall for it.
I don't oppose guns, and I don't think they should be banned, but I think the notion that someone carrying one stops terrorism is just absolute bullshit with no data to back it up.
>>55809381
The security gaurds have guns though.
>>55809694
how so? it was a gun free zone, how did guns enter that zone?
>>55809694
> backpedaling this much
Event shootings aren't really what Americans are worried about, it's the gang problem and being a victim of a gas station robbery or a home invasion. Or the unlikely Wendys shooting. anyway it's about having it and not needing it than needing it and not having it. there are countless events that can be pointed to when someone with a CC saved lives or someone who was OCing saved lives.
>>55809381
>Even if in such an event EVERYBODY would carry a gun, there would be suddenly extreme amounts of confusion and fear, leading to many armed non-attackers to attack other non-attackers
You just have to check who has a beard and is shouting Allah Ackbar. It's quite easy IFF system.
>>55809960
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkgMbU-we1o
>>55809960
>For all we know it could have been some "responsible gun owner" drawing his weapon against some perceived threat and then being gunned down by another "responsible gun owner".
incorrect, you can't even post a source of something like that happening yet we can post all day about radical muslims doing what they're always doing
An armed society is a polite society.
>>55810028
Oh that's right. The Second Amendment is for treason, not self-defense. It is designed so that you can shoot and kill people's sons and daughters in the US Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, local police forces, blacks, and Jews when you, and only you, believe they have gone to far.
Most Americans today support social progress and multiculturalism. You want your "revolution" so you can kill your fellow Americans whose only crime was defending progressive America.
So when you lose, and you will, there's no reason for other Americans to spare any of you.
>>55809381
thanks for the input, hat.
>>55810379
>Most Americans today support social progress and multiculturalism.
Rude awakening in store for you in 2016
>>55810036
>open carry and concealed carry have literally zero impact on crime
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/16/detroit-police-chief-no-question-my-mind-legal-gun/
An attack in which 150 unarmed people were helplessly butchered by like 8 guys with illegally imported guns and OP is trying to say this is... a good reason NOT to own guns?
Liberals are fucking retarded and should be killed asap.
>>55810131
When there are no guns, nobody can get shot. So the concept of gun free zones is perfectly sound. If guns somehow ended up in a gun free zone, then that's a problem with the implementation of that gun free zone.
>>55810487
Yep pretty much.
Here he is sucking the massive dick right now.
>>55810379
>>55810036
>The reality is that open carry and concealed carry have literally had zero impact on crime. In fact, it's like you said, incidents where someone did have a gun has led to many accidental shootings of bystanders, and the purpetrators they were aiming at getting away.
Literally the opposite of what is happening.
>>55810446
Detroit is not a proper example. When you walk the streets there, you EXPECT the possibility of being robbed. Your average person in your average city is not expecting it.
>>55810567
That's a lie.
>>55810521
>If guns somehow end up in a fun free zone then that's a problem
Yeah let's just destroy every gun ever, that'll do it
>>55810639
You should expect to be robbed in NY too
Please stop being an embarrassment bro.
If you want a gun free society, move to Europe. North America is an armed society.
Piss off, take your propaganda elsewhere.
>>55810036
>You have to remember that America is heavily controlled by lobbyists. The NRA is a big one, since there's a lot of money in the sale of firearms and ammunition.
You do realize that Michael Bloomberg alone put $50 million towards gun control campaigning just in 2014? This is compared to $30 million combined lobbying and advertising by the NRA. The gun control groups have significantly more money being pumped into them, but continue to fail at accomplishing anything of substance.
What kind of fucking mental gymnastics do you have to do to be able to come up with a pro gun control sentiment from a widespread terrorist attack on an unarmed populous?
Like seriously nigger what the fuck are you doing how the fuck did you even come up with this shitpost? It's like nothing I've ever seen before.
>>55809381
Wherever I go my weapon goes and if my weapon is not allowed I don't go.
>>55810778
Even Australia is stumped by this level of stupid.
>>55810639
>You EXPECT the possibility of being robbed
Now not so much more when you can defend yourself huh?
>>55809960
It's easy you fucking moron you just shoot the nogger with the ak yelling Allahu ackbar ! Why would white people shoot each other out of confusion ? We will never be that confused lol
Takbir my friend
>gun nut
show me a gun nut exactly like the ones in your beloved political cartoons and i'll repeal the second amendment myself
>>55810887
When granny is packing a .45 and Jamel and deshaun roll up doing the crip walk and monkey grunting and she pulls it out and either double taps them or scares them off that's one more crime those fuckstick police didn't stop but at least it didn't end in her death.
I really don't understand why people are anti-gun. If you don't like them, don't get one. Let the people who care about protecting themselves go and get one. Nobody is forcing anybody.
>>55809381
What?
That entire post made 0 fucking sense.
Get it together Canac uck.
>>55809381
Does it matter how many steps it is from banning "assault rifles" to Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot when banning "assault rifles" is a crucial step?
Please respond.
>>55811111
congratulations, how does it feel to be the new islamic caliphate?
>>55811111
I respond by checking em.
>>55811111
Check'd
I'm pretty sure Canada is just trolling.
>>55811165
Coming from a person in the UK, where the most popular name for children is Muhammad is hilarious to me
>>55811111
gz on being the new muhammad senpai
>>55811220
That's only london. We need to step up our game
>>55810521
>doing mental gymnastics this hard
>>55811220
>I don't bloody think Shira allows that
>>55811295
Fair point. I apologize for coming at the rest of the UK.
What the fuck is going on with London? It was such a beautiful city a few years ago. Who let all those fucks in?
>>55809381
1 guy pulls out a gun, 20 people turn around too. It gives everyone a even playing field. 1v1 in your house you verse a criminal. He has a gun, what weapon do you want in your hand? or do you want to die like a kek?
>>55810936
In >>55809737 he was talking about the USA.
Most mass shooters in the USA are white.
>>55809381
>being to be able to at least have somewhat of a fighting chance is worse than everyone getting executed
Liberal logic everyone.
>>55809694
And here lies the fault, where the liberal relies on a faulty government responsible for implementing feels based policies.
>>55809381
That's the fucking question you fucking ask. Not how the hell did two Muslim shit stains get AK47s into the hall? Fuck off canada.
>>55811435
This perfectly sums up the stupidity of their argument.
>GUNS ARE BAD
Defending ourselves isn't bad.
>DEFENSE IS BAD. JOIN ISLORM TODAY. RELIGION OF PEACE
>>55810521
but there were guns, in a gun free zone, how do you propose to fix that? the guns were already illegal
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>>55809381
Listen, Canada.
Unlike most Americans here who are going to fall for the bait, I'm going to give you a reasonable response.
I can see how you might think the way you do. If you have spent your life sheltered from guns, you are going to think that people will panic whenever they see one. That they'll be so nervous holding one that they will inevitably make mistakes.
But that is very much just a culture shock thing. Believe it or not, you can adjust to the sight of guns. You can see a bunch of armed people without feeling nervous.
And, yes, mistakes and panic can happen. But you know what? I bet even in the worst case of panic and confusion among non-terrorist gun owners, they might kill 10 innocents before they figure out what's going on. Compare that to the numbers the terrorists were able to mercilessly gun down without any trouble.
And that's assuming any mistakes happen at all. Plenty of times, they don't.
The fact is that these are weak arguments against guns. The fact is that you've simply been raised in a bourgeois, soft culture that detests and abhors violence of any sort, and thus the idea of committing it, even to defend yourself, seems terrifying.
Well, you have to get over that fear. You have to take that leap. Complete isolation from violence is complete isolation from history. It's why the world is passing you by.
>>55809381
Just let them shoot each other up desu, it makes for great news.
>>55810521
So it sounds like what you want to do is impossible then right? Can you get rid of every single gun on the planet and the knowledge to produce them?
>>55810036
Ok show me the cases where tons of bystanders are being shot by people with CCW
I'll wait.
>>55809381
Comic looks fake. Word on the street is that Horsey has gone full redpill with nazism and anti-semitism, surpassing Ben Garrison.
>>55809458
approximately the same way those American guys defended themselves when they were gettin fucked in Columbine
>>55812489
>high school students
>guns
>high school
>not a gun free zone
Defend your country, frog.
Making the connection between insanity and Islam
"It's only one tiny step from becoming full blown nazis!"
>>55809381
Thank God you'll never breed.
>>55812585
Now replace "Columbine" with "world trade center"
>mass shooting happens in an area with strict gun control
>this is somehow an argument for further gun control
>>55809381
Wow, Canadian shitposting has really stepped up its game lately
>>55809381
>geniunely curious
>gun nut
How can one be genuine while thinking someone who wants to protect themselves is a nut?
>>55812689
Shooting at airplanes is a felony
>>55811409
I know, right.
Fucking white people.
>>55812689
>airline is so gun free their planes get hijacked by people with box cutters
>we need more gun control
>literally 0% of guns in the US used to murder somebody
>>55809381
Um, did the security guard take the terrorists' weapons at the concert? If they can have them, why can't I?
>>55809381
Canadian snackbar pretending not to be Islamic shill. Hilarious.
>>55813083
That....is one of the most retarded ways to present that statistic.
>>55813513
Then do it better faggot.
>>55813513
How so?
>>55812689
Your stupidity is painful.
>>55813590
>>55813513
Contra-bootin chums
>>55813590
>>55813617
Why break it down to .1% first? Why say something as convoluted as "34 times less than .1% of firearms not used for murder each year?"
Here's a better way:
9022/310,000,000 *100 = .003% of guns are used in murders, or, for every gun used in a murder, there are 33,000+ that are not
>>55812689
>small arms can stop a passenger jet
>...
>...
>small arms can't stop ragheads with small arms and only as much training as they need to turn off the safety
>>55809381
Fucking idiot. The only places a shooter has succeeded in killing many people in the US where in gun free zones...
Remember those fuck heads killed while attacking a meeting in Texas...that was not a gun free zone
>>55809381
> (how are you supposed to identify the attacker if anybody is pointing at and shooting at everybody)
The enemy has shit colored skin and shouts " allahu akbar!"
Why do all these cartoons depict a fat southerner ass an evil gun abuser when 99% of gun crime is performed by either:
1. Thin, white males with no southern distinction
2. Bearded Muslims
3. niggers
http://gunsnfreedom.com/washington-post-lists-mass-shootings-stopped-by-armed-citizens/5839
"I think the best Mohammed cartoon was the two chalk outlines."
ITT: snackbar tears
>>55809381
...because mudskins are soooo hard to recognize when they start shooting...
>>55814377
Because it's more about media liberals signalling to their political tribe than it is about reality
>>55809381
I used to be for gun control
But after Paris, I might start taking shooting lessons
US is so armed to the teeth, I feel a lot more secure now
>>55809381
This is the reality of your irrelevance, Canada.
>>55812795
Hey, a lot of those mass shooters are darkies! Bad goyim! Delete this right now.
>>55813916
Because if you actually break down the numbers it emphasizes how small a number it really is and people can see the math behind the picture and check if it is correct.
people see pictures like >>55813828
ans skim over it as random statistical propaganda.
>>55814818
The point is that's a retarded, convoluted way to break down the numbers. They aren't incorrect, but it's still a dumb way to present them. It actually makes the number of guns used in murder seem like a larger percentage than it actually is.
Don't use that infographic. It's bad.
Grady Judd, a true 'murican.
http://www.snopes.com/crime/cops/judd.asp
>>55809381
You're an idiot. A gun carrying citizen would still have to identify himself and show a license. A random shmuck refugee terrorist wouldn't be able to get one in the first place.
>>55809381
The only dumb part of US gun laws is that carrying the guns is banned where shootings happen the most i.e in schools and cinemas.
>>55815852
>and cinemas
Not all theaters have bans and depending on the state carrying in a gun free zone is not a crime.
>>55810521
You can make a Sten gun with parts and tools from your local hardware store - it's a very simple machine.
Filipinos make decent guns out of scrap metal and simple tools - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fna9WEO6BjE
There are open source plans for printing disposable 3D-printed handguns, as well as CNC machine files for machining more robust ones - http://www.cncguns.com/
Guns are not hard to make or acquire when you have a need for them, and that is just going to get easier and easier as at-home manufacturing processes of 3D printing and CNC machining get cheaper and more accessible.
The primary thing that keeps guns out of a country's everyday life is the culture. But even then, people will still acquire them when they need them (e.g. the recent flareup of Yakuza shootings in Japan, which is an almost completely gun-free country).
And unless you disarm your police, you have to trust the police officer to be an angel. Which you can't really, since the biggest mass murder committed with firearms before Breivik was done by a police officer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woo_Bum-kon
>>55809458
Kek I hate this argument even if they had Guns they'd still be mowed down in large #s
>>55810974
I careful. I literally saw that guy at the range yesterday. He even had the yellow "don't tread on me shirt" and .45 in a shit uncle Mikes holster. It was fucking embarassing.
>mfw
>>55811790
>they might kill 10 innocents
>>55816364
Were you in the stall on the end shooting your meme rifle?
>>55809381
http://www.pulpless.com/gunclock/gunclock_index2.html
http://www.pulpless.com/gunclock/stats.html
http://www.pulpless.com/gunclock/
>>55809381
How does it feel to know your "country" has been reduced to a meme consisting of a single word?
It's so hard for you to understand because you are so dependent on others to live. Americans are selfish, of course we walk around protecting our freedom.
>>55809381
>muh Wild West fallacy
Surely you have proof to back up your bullshit?
>>55809381
>Do people really carry guns to concerts in the USA?
Yes. They carry guns everywhere. Which is why people only shoot up gun free zones
fuck off syrup nigger.
>>55812689
Alternatively, replace them with the two gunmen in Texas.
Guess how that went over for them in America. Hint: It didn't involve 127 frog corpses.
Civilian firearm users have a much lower rate of error than police officers.
>>55809381
>Assault rilfes commit less than 1% of gun murders in the USA
>wants to ban only them
Shows leftists are brainwashed tools
>>55814733
it should be pretty obvious why nothing bad ever happens in vermont
>>55817513
Almost nothing.
>frenchmen die from terrorist
>"it's the 2nd amendments fault"
Are you a shill?
Are you Jewish?
Are you both?
>>55814733
>Illinois was red to the bitter end
Boy, ain't Illinois great?
>>55817685
Probably somali.
>>55817716
No.
Meanwhile, in America....
2015 NICS background checks:
June = 1.5 Million - New Record
July = 1.6 Million - New Record
Augest = 1.7 Million - New Record
September = 1.8 Million - New Record
October = 1.98 million - New Record
>>55817764
>No.
Yeah, it's really nt
>>55817482
To make matters worse, they've misused the term "assault rifle" so much that most people don't know what it means anymore
Assault rifles are rifles chambered in an intermediate caliber (think 5.56 and 5.45) with selective fire (Semi-auto and either burst or full auto (With both being considered "full-auto" by the ATF))
Additionally the machine gun registry has been closed since 1986, so the only assault rifles privately owned in the US got their stamps before '86.
And the only known incident of a legal MG being used in a crime since then was a police officer back in the 90's killing his wife with his Mac-10
The more you know
>>55817949
*not
I think the Somali Snow Nigger OP has abandoned his own thread after being told so many times. Therefore, GUN THREAD
>>55817956
pic semi-related
IF france just banned guns MORE! this would never have happened!! BAN GUNS NOW!!
DO LIKE WASHINGOTN WE ARE THE BEST!!
HE:LLL YEAH CASCADIA!!
>>55817482
Technically "assault rifles" are involved in pretty much no crime(aside from mexicans crossing the borders with full autos) whatsoever, semi automatic versions of those rifles are used in less than 1% of domestic gun crime
Then you have the term "assault weapons" which they made up in the 90s to describe semi autos with pistol grips, muzzle brakes, forward grips and collapsible buttstocks.
>>55809381
the paris attack was a false flag carried out by the french government.
>>55817887
I think some of this may be due to a couple of states now requiring NICS checks for private transfers.
>>55817716
>Illinois
>implying not Chicago
Our machine Democrats love that niggers kill themselves at astounding rates and don't have the means to protect themselves. It's distracted the black community so much they can't even push a black mayor through.
>>55817482
there have only been 2 homicides committed with legally owned machine guns (which is what an assault rifle is) since 1934: http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcfullau.html
sites like mother jones try to use the word "assault weapon" which doesn't have a well-defined meaning and so is completely worthless. if you switched out a wood stock on a rifle with a black plastic one it could be called an "assault weapon" since it basically means it looks spooky
>>55809381
Shouldn't you be making craft beer?
>>55809381
I've been patted down at all the clubs I've been to, even in the ghetto.
But I would not be shocked at all if the owners carried, especially if they have to go to the bank themselves.
>>55817389
Women gun owners are 4 times more likely to die from gun violence as non gun owning women. These are the best survival odds among gun owners. Children are 13 times more likely to be shot and killed in America than in any other developed nation. Overall, gun owners are 5 times more likely to die from gun violence than non gun owners. Gun owners are 43 times more likely to shoot and kill their own family member as they are to shoot and kill an intruder. Homes with guns are 37 times more likely to have a successful suicide attempt. Less than 1.4% of firearm deaths are deemed justifiable self defense. Less than 0.5% of firearm deaths are of an intruder. Over 70% of hand gun deaths occurred in the home where the handgun was kept. Every day 86 Americans are killed by guns. These stats are derived from the American Journal of Epidemiology, the CDC and the FBI.
>>55818425
excellent citations you provided, were they real in your mind too?
>>55818425
>not propaganda
>>55812689
kek
>>55810521
And if there was no cancer, people wouldn't get cancer. Good logic there.
>>55818425
>people who use guns are more likely to die from guns than people who do not
Duh?
>>55818200
You can look up the numbers from those states, because they're publicly available, and show that you're wrong. You can also compare gun manufacturing data, which is also publicly available, and show that you're wrong.
Firearm production for the civilian market in the United States has more than doubled in the last 7 years. More firearms have been sold in the last 10 years than the rest of the history of the United States put together.
>>55809381
Makes sense. Blame an american law for an incident that happened in a country without that law.........Hat strikes again, eh? No points awarded
>>55809694
***THIS IS WHAT LIBERALS ACTUALLY BELIEVE***
>>55818425
>people with swimming pools and two story homes are more likely to drown and fall down a flight of stairs than people with no pools living in single story homes.
Amazing.
>>55818696
>You can look up the numbers from those states, because they're publicly available, and show that you're wrong
>number of private transfers is publicly available
>>55809381
Wew lad you sure convinced me with those hot opinions
MAYBE IF GUN CONTROL WAS STRICTER THIS COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED. WHY ISN'T PARIS A GUN-FREE ZONE, THIS COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED!
>>55818425
some people can't use guns responsibly. BAN THEM ALL!!!!
>>55809381
So did you forget that the whole leftist argument FOR gun control was that it was supposed to stop mass shootings like the one in France?
>>55818872
They're not private when the government requires them to fill out paperwork and call a government agency you dumb fucking faggot. See why when liberals call it a "Universal Background Check" it's a ban on private sales?
>>55818425
>These stats are derived from the American Journal of Epidemiology, the CDC and the FBI.
It's funny when you keks blatantly lie.
>>55810169
This all day long.
But good luck finding a n3s article about these stopped home invasions or muggings...because the liberal slu media will not report it
>>55818728
what kinda gun is that?
>>55819004
Ruger SR-22
>>55818995
luckily reddit.com/r/dgu catalogs them
CAN talks about FR with a US "Law"
Well, this is shitpost 2.0
So do we know exactly how 2 gunmen took 100 people hostage in the venue?
>>55810752
That's because you really have to pay to lobby for that. The NRA doesn't need to spend as much money because most Americans know their rights and don't need to be advertised to about what we believe.
Most liberals don't know what they believe until they're told. Most leftists just aren't intelligent
>>55812689
it's a fucking airport. guns aren't generally allowed, in any country, in airports.
>>55809381
>>55809381
>>55809381
>>55809381
>>55809381
>Two pro-ISIS terrorists were shot dead outside the Garland, Texas Draw Mohammad Contest in early May. The two terrorists attended the mosque in Phoenix.
>Jihadists Nadir Soofi and Elton Simpson were shot dead when they tried to ambush the Texas “Draw Mohammad Contest.” ISIS took credit for the attack.
>Pro-ISIS jihadist shot dead
>Texas, USA
LGTSS
>The remote outpost of Canada
>The City of OP
>>55819280
Reminds me of this.
>>55810028
>le 2nd ammendment is for reboluzion!
Kill yourself.
>trying to infringe on my personal rights
Fuck Off desu
You can take back my AR one round at a time in short bursts
>>55811771
>With Open Gates got taken down again.
>>55809381
This is some next level shitposting.
>>55811021
Watch one of these gun controlled Muslim apologist nations in ten years outlaw sharp sticks
>>55818927
Frances 'gun control' is redundant because they can have arms shipped in from the former Yugoslavian countries without much trouble. France is too open and large to police properly in that regard.
In the UK however, the comparative lack of availability of such weapons is one of the main reasons that a similar attack hasn't happened here. Look at the Lee Rigby murderers, if they were in France they easily could have been armed with automatic rifles significantly increasing the potential for carnage but because they weren't, the best they could procure was an antique revolver that didn't even work. This level of control of illegal weapons, while it can never be perfect, is only possible because the UK unlike France is an island and has much stricter control of its boarders.
>>55810521
>when there are no guns, nobody can get shot.
jesus christ canada
>>55818986
>in b4 muh false flag
>>55809381
It wouldn't help against suicide bombers, however the guys at the concert were not. They lined people up and executed them one by one.
Do the French not even have armed guards or something?
>>55809381
I guess it really books down to this, and at least in the southern US, this is an unwritten law: you can choose whatever you want about guns, but don't tell me I can't have one. It is NEVER going to end peacefully for anyone trying to take away our arms.
>>55818728
Well that makes sense actually, Liberals do tend to have rape fantasies.
>>55819538
>broke 41 laws
committing murder twice is not breaking two laws, it's repetitively breaking the same law.
>>55819359
Wow, I've never heard of this before. It's actually fucking awesome.
>>55819747
>hurrrrrrr
>>55811889
Exactly....and not only that , EVERYONE who has a concealed carry permit has to sit through a class where the teach you the rules and one of the important ones is that you WILL be held accountable for every round you fire. There is no " oops, I didn't mean to shoot that innocent bystander while killing the rapist." You will be held accountable, so there's almost no chance of blind fire.
>>55814733
Don't forget that crime rates have plummeted in states that allow concealed carry.
Washington DC has some of the worst gun violence in the nation and the most restrictive gun laws at the same time.
>>55809381
You couldn't be more c.ucked, Canada. God job.
>>55819909
>EVERYONE
Constitutional carry states don't require a permit to CC and I'm not sure if all the states that have CCW licensing require classes.
>>55820083
Wait, has Mr. "it's 2015" even taken office yet? Maybe they could.
>>55820255
More like
>Obama: We need to cut back on all of these guns
>The next day 300,000 more firearms are sold
Obama is the largest gun salesman, he is straight retarded.
>>55820380
Americans are buying like a million guns a month the last time I checked.
>>55820513
You get the idea
Why do left wing extremists hate women?
>>55818696
But gun ownership among americans is also at an all time low.
>>55820736
>113 weapons per 100 Americans
>all time low
>>55809381
Nope. I don't go to places where large crowds gather with limited escape routes. Music concerts are not worth it. I'd rather see music in smaller venues or watch it on tv, than be surrounded by mindless, screaming people holding their cell phones up for 2 hours.
>>55820736
>But gun ownership among americans is also at an all time low.
>more guns than people
>hey do you own any guns
>"fuck you"
>put that down as a no
>>55820736
all time high, actually
gun sales have been through the roof since Obama became President in 2008
>>55820773
Yes, but most of those firearms are owned by people who own multiples.
Right now the percentage of americans who own a gun is around 40%, down from an all time high during the 1970s when almost 70% of americans owned at least one firearm.
>>55809381
most people died at the concert from guns
yes people carry at concerts because niggers and weirdos go to concerts
canadians are tiny dick asian retards btw
>>55809694
>That's more of a problem with implementation, not the concept.
t. Communism
>>55820894
The manufactures are finally catching up with demand.
2008 thru 2013 they just got slammed with orders.
>>55820914
>around 40%
[citation needed]
>>55820880
>>55820894
>>55820914
Again, those guns are owned by people who hoard them. The majority of american citizens DO NOT own any guns, and all you need is a majority to pass gun registration laws.
daily reminder than gun stores, gun shows, gun ranges and hunting clubs are not victims of mas shootings
>>55819890
Terrible, terrible analogy. That would work if every fire extinguisher also had a flame thrower attached and if instead of arguing that we don't need fire extinguishers, liberals simply argued that the seemingly pointless fire extinguisher built into them should be removed because it's dangerous. Your analogy is terrible because a fire extinguisher is in theory harmless (sure you could hit someone with one, but even that is far less damaging than being shot in the same location a person is hit). Guns can undeniably be used to cause harm more easily than fire extinguishers (I'm not saying fire extinguishers can't harm people, but they certainly aren't 'equally dangerous' by any means). The whole argument relies on the idea that "guns are easy to cause harm to other people with." Fire extinguishers do not fit that description (arguably, but certainly not to the same degree as guns) and so that analogy does not work.
Do you not understand that?
Your opinion means nothing to me. Understand that.
I stopped a robbery with my concealed carry. I didn't used to carry very regularly but just happened to have it on me. I shot twice and struck the robber twice. He ran. I didn't kill him because I was carrying a KelTec .32 auto. I've since upgraded to a .40
>>55821054
>The majority of american citizens DO NOT own any guns
put up or shut up.
>and all you need is a majority to pass gun registration laws.
Yea that's why the "majority" can't pass a mag ban/awb or federal universal background checks
>>55821054
>all you need is a majority to pass gun registration laws.
:)
>>55820436
>not understanding that 'compensating for something' is a sexual penis joke alone, not a political argument
>being this retarded that you didn't get the joke and made a poster responding to it instead of just laughing about like everybody else
fucking autists
>>55821240
>I've since upgraded to a .40
>>55809381
Why are foreigners so invested on us giving up our second amendment rights? Brits, Canadians, and Australians seem to be the biggest anti-gun rights shills on here.
>>55809381
>Even if in such an event EVERYBODY would carry a gun, there would be suddenly extreme amounts of confusion and fear, leading to many armed non-attackers to attack other non-attackers (how are you supposed to identify the attacker if anybody is pointing at and shooting at everybody). Leading to many more deaths than from the actual attackers.
It is nice to see that there actually are people on the North American continent that have common sense.
>>55821054
>in every country in history where government began collecting information on who owns firearms, that data was later used to confiscate and force registration
>wonder why less people are answering "Yes" to surveys about gun ownership now versus 50 years ago
Liberals are THIS stupid.
Every year when we hit a new record and liberals STILL TRY TO FORCE THE NARRATIVE that only a small number of people are buying dozens of guns it becomes more absurd and impossible.
America is now buying 2 million firearms PER MONTH. And STILL they think we are that stupid to believe their lies about "a small number of extremists". Look at this faggot. Look how stupid he thinks we are.
>>55821054
>all you need is a majority to pass gun registration laws
Full Auto Keks
>>55821488
>how are you supposed to identify the attacker if anybody is pointing at and shooting at everybody)
You shoot at the brown people with AKs and balaclavas screaming about allah.
>>55821238
>I think extreme assault weapons should not be used by regular civilians in their day to day lives
>Conservatives here "HE TERKIN ALL MUH GUNS!"
>Telling Obama to 'disarm' his secret service as an example, even though they are essentially police and most of the guns they own are very small compared to the types of guns even suggested should be banned
Are you really this retarded?
>>55821422
Because they are gay, each and every one of them.
>>55821488
You shoot the ones that look like Germans (shemagh, suicide vest, akm, shouting Allahu Akbar) ;^)
>>55821505
It's the same people buying more and more guns, idiot.
You keep saying "more guns are sold than ever" yet conveniently are saying how many people are actually buying them.
>>55821054
i wonder how many people are like me
my life has been fucked over pretty good so now i just do what i want because now if anyone tries to stop me it's better to just murder them
>>55821723
>adding the liberal buzzword "extreme" to a term that already lacks a definition
You guys are really inventing a new form of retardation aren't you?
>>55821782
Because the federal government is prohibited from collecting that data. What's that, a liberal that has no idea what the laws governing firearms actually are? Color me surprised.
>>55819359
So for every "terrist" killed with a legally owned gun how many innocents get murdered by legally owned guns?
At the end of the day there is more harm done than prevented with legally owned guns.
>>55821723
>extreme assault weapons
>>55821343
>>55821723
Remember that time I told you that your opinion means nothing to me?
>>55820914
I have:
4 Pistols (.22, .32, .40, five-seven,);
4 rifles (.22, AR15, , 308, 30-06, );
3 12 gauge (1 short pump, 1 standard pump, 1 auto)
Each fits a particular need. They are tools in my tool box.
>>55809458
People need to have the hero mentality and act first. If a group of 5+ tackle a gunman there's a good chance they will be incapacitated long enough for someone else to take the weapon from them.
Unfortunately though most European countries feel too safe nowadays and don't think like this.
>>55821874
I had no idea "extreme" was now a buzzword you fucking autist.
Remove it from my post then. It makes perfect sense without it and attacking that aspect of it alone is a poor cop out for no rebuttal.
>>55821723
>doesn't want American citizens to own full autos
>is okay with the government handing out free full autos to drug cartels and "moderate" durka rebels
You should be hung you fucking traitorous cunt
>>55821723
Please specify what an extreme assault weapon is.
>>55821909
Thank you for proving my point.
Basically, since there are at least 300 million guns for 300 million americans, you're admitting that since you own 11, there are another 10 people in the US who DON'T own a single firearm. So you're admitting you're basically just a small minority.
>>55821887
You said that to a Canadian.
I'm not even liberal, just think your defensive arguments against gun regulation are absolutely terrible on this one issue.
>>55821875
Lol, dumb faggot coward detected.
>>55810521
Holy shit please stop posting. Retards like you make Canadians look like complete retards.
>>55821973
Can you provide a definition for the term, "Assault Weapon", then?
Can you also cite for me the FBI data on the number of murders committed last year in the entire country of 320,000,000 with the entire category of rifles?
Hint: Less people were murdered using rifles compared to hammers.
>>55821973
>It makes perfect sense without it
Except "assault weapons" is also a made up term to demonize modern furniture and muzzle devices.
>>55809381
The 2nd amendment's purpose is not singular
Some of its purposes include:
A) To protect the citizen from an oppressive and overreaching government
B) To all the citizen to protect its nation from foreign invaders
C) To allow the citizen to protect his property and his family
and
D) To piss off socialist faggots like you :^)
Fuck off faggot, everytime an attack like this happens gun control only diminishes and the 2nd amendment gets closer and closer to being completely recognized and enforced.
Gun control laws in the US are at an all time low in history.
You're not taking away our guns socialist faggot.
>>55821994
>making baseless assumptions
When the fuck did I say I was ok with the government handing out free full autos to drug cartels?
You're making shit up.
I'm not even liberal on other issues. I never said or implied that and it's pathetic that you've resorted to making things up to try to portray some kind of irony.
>>55821875
0.01% of guns are used in crimes
Civilians stop more crimes and kill less innocents than the police
This information is readily available on government websites
Try reading a book first before you speak, dumb nazi nigger
>>55813828
>inb4 liberals make the same argument about Muslims that aren't terrorists.
>>55821353
I like my Glock 23 Gen4 .40 pretty well. It's a tad klunky to carry so I do still carry a KelTec .380 which is pretty bitch whistle but effective enough.
>>55822057
>I don't have an argument
>LEL HE MUST HAVE A TINY PEE PEE
Are you people 8 years old?
>>55822057
You're right, her dick is pretty small......
>>55810028
Incorrect, the second amendment is designed for state and/or federal recognized militias to not adhere to local/federal gun laws. Therefore, if your state recognized a militia that you're in, your firearm rights are protected by the second admendment
>>55822231
Why are you ignoring me? Please, if you can prove me wrong then do so. You will be morally superior, the form of nutrients liberals subsists off of, if you do so.
Provide for me a definition of term Assault Weapon, and demonstrate to me using murder data that "Extreme (lol) Assault Weapons (lol)" are in fact a national epidemic and not used in fewer murders than hammers.
>>55822057
>>55822262
>a KelTec
>>55809381
I live in a rural area and will need to kill any wild animals that attack me. Now, quit whining.
>>55810521
lol, I thought canadians were smarter than this.
WTF happened in the last 20 years? I remember when I was a kid that Europa and North America were 1st world countries, with stable societies.
Now you have tons of retarded liberals everywhere.
I am disappointed.
>>55822418
What's your issue with kel tec?
>>55822231
>you are making shit up
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal
Choke on daddy government's boot bitch
>>55821509
Didn't realize in the US it is more important to win most acres and not most votes.
>>55822029
An extreme assault weapon is a weapon commonly characterized by a high capacity magazine and specific assault rifles like the AR-15 (specifically, those that strongly resemble the military M-16 in capabilities), including the types of assault rifles used in the Aurora massacre, which have no reasonable benefit to hunters and provide little advantage in the way of self-defense which a smaller civilian gun would not provide. I am not claiming this would eliminate gun deaths and mass shootings in the US at all. I am claiming that it would reduce them, if only a little, and that that makes it worth it.
>>55822549
Sometimes we need to protect ourselves from wild animals in the city too...
>>55822602
I think I found the problem with canada.
>>55810521
I remember when I was 16.
>>55822610
Every one I have ever touched was a cheap piece of shit that did not work properly and they have a long record of pumping out cheap garbage that breaks with minimal usage.
>>55809381
I want libtrolls to leave. Seriously mods, you've deleted two threads I was in today but shit like this stays.
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
>>55822257
>This information is readily available on government websites
>Civilians stop more crimes and kill less innocents than the police
Buhuhuhullshit.
>>55812689
holy shit you're fucking retarded
enjoy Mohammed raping your sister
>>55822693
Oh good! Then my guns are safe!
>>55822693
>An extreme assault weapon is a weapon commonly characterized by a high capacity magazine and specific assault rifles like the AR-15 (specifically, those that strongly resemble the military M-16 in capabilities)
Ah, so you don't know dick about guns then.
Thanks for the giggle.
>>55822682
So much retardation in so few words.
>>55822773
Interesting.
I have never had an issue other than pain in the ass take down.
>>55809381
>nation with essentially zero protected gun ownership protections
>nation with zero ability to legally carry a gun for self defense unless cop or security guard
>huuur its the idea of protecting the inalienable right to keep nd bear arms which is at fault
>>55822103
Let me put it this way. If banning assault rifles eliminates as little as 2 or 3 deaths across the US, then it is worth it.
That's my point.
Now you wanted a definition of "assault rifle" for some reason, so hold on. It's "a rapid-fire, magazine-fed automatic rifle designed for infantry use," with emphasis on the "infantry use" part because they resemble specific weapons used in military situations which would be excessive in day-to-day civilian life. That's how I'm defining it, very reasonably, here for the sake of the discussion.
I'll even concede that banning certain types of guns would not reduce gun violence by a lot. Great. But it might reduce it by a couple of deaths per year. There is at least a chance that it could possibly reduce deaths by guns by at least a little bit every year. Then it is worth doing.
Your argument that more people would die because less people would be able to defend themselves is a debatable counterargument to my point, sure.
>>55822693
I guess someone had to look it up to help no-gunz learn something....
>>55822059
Every single person I know owns a firearm of some type. Even my buddy the leftist New England elitist owns a firearm (I had to go take it from him when his wife keked him). My guess is there are enormous regional differences in firearm ownership. I think many people don't own firearms in New England, Chicago, Mid-West and California-Coastal (though the criminals do).
>>55818063
good one, thanks for posting
>>55822693
Ohhhh, so close. Except the AR-15 is not an Assault Rifle because unlike your made up liberal term "Assault Weapon", assault rifle has an actual mechanical definition and one of the defining traits of an assault rifle is that it is fully automatic.
AR-15s are semi-automatic. Thus, they are physically incapable of being referred to as "Assault Rifles".
It is also good to note that you did not provide any factual reason why the AR-15 is in any way different than a Ruger Mini-14, just that they look the same. Which is exactly what dumb fucking liberals harp on.
The Ruger Mini-14 is semi-automatic like the AR-15. It can utilize standard capacity (30 round) magazines just like the AR-15. They are functionally identical. Why do you want the AR-15 banned, but don't mention the Mini-14?
Were you also not aware (of course you weren't) that the AR-15 is currently enjoying the #1 spot on "Most Popular Hunting Rifle" in the United States?
>>55822549
>need
>>55822720
>need
Both of you "need" to shut the fuck up.
>>55809381
>how exactly do American gun nuts think guns would help against suicide bombers?
I don't. Guns aren't nearly as effective against bombers.
Look at the Boston Bombing... the terrorists knew that, and there was a reason that it wasn't the Boston Run-Around-The-City-And-Shoot-People.
So maybe there wouldn't have been anybody carrying a pistol in a concert if that had happened in the State, but what if somebody had been carrying a pistol? What if they were able to put a stop to the murder?
A similar attack actually *did* happen in Dallas. It ended with two deaths. The Muslims, armed with rifles and wearing body armor, were killed by a single security guard with a pistol before they were able to enter the venue they were targeting.
Guns won't stop all crime and terror, but it's a much better defense than no defense at all.
http://dallasmorningviewsblog.dallasnews.com/2015/05/what-we-learned-from-the-garland-terror-attack-and-its-fallout.html/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Culwell_Center_attack
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2015/05/a-terror-attack-in-texas/392288/
>>55823100
I didn't ask for the definition of assault rifle. That has a real definition because it is a real term that dumb fuck liberals didn't invent.
I can see that you are incapable of reading, so refer to me post;
>>55823197
>>55823100
>Let me put it this way. If banning assault rifles eliminates as little as 2 or 3 deaths across the US, then it is worth it.
So do you in general favor anything responsible for at least 2-3 deaths yearly being banned as well?
>>55822624
Is my post quoted in that Wikipedia article?
Again, I said "you are making shit up" because you said that I somehow support that.
I don't. I support the removal of certain types of guns from civilian daily life.
You're the one that decided to assume I supported a bunch of other things in addition to that and are now trying to cite proof for your own assertions, which I never even argued because I never disagreed with them. Congratulations. Read the post you are responding to and the post I was responding to before that you cocksucking autist.
>>55822861
tell me more about my country Mohammed al Germani
>American police are incompetent and evil
>civilians don't stop more crime than police
Which one is it faggot
>>55822913
True diversity!! This gun is so multicultural that it shoots .45 Colt, .454 Casull and .410 shotgun shells.
>>55823100
Let's put it this way, even if banning assault rifles saved 300 million, it still wouldn't be worth it.
>>55823310
He's a progressive faggot and doesn't even know it, sadly. Ignore him.
>>55823393
What a tolerant, progressive gun. It's on the right side of history.
>>55823100
>millions of people should lose the right to own specific property because of two deaths
If your objective was to save lives you would be attempting to ban pools, alcohol, hammers, automobiles and knives before an attempt to ban semi automatic rifles.
You are focusing on what you view as a low hanging fruit of guns and attempting to remove it due to your hoplophobia
>>55823393
Now that's what I call enrichment.
>>55823100
>Let me put it this way. If banning assault rifles eliminates as little as 2 or 3 deaths across the US, then it is worth it.
If arming everyone with 5 fully automatic machine guns would have saved this man's family, it would be worth it!!!!
>>55822057
>libtards obsessed with dicks
every time
>>55822059
You may also consider that legal firearm ownership in most states is limited to persons 21 and over which eliminates a large portion of the population for "ownership". Also keep in mind many households may only own one firearm and fee that is adequate for self defense. I'd be interested to see how many households have at least one firearm.
>>55823376
Yup, thread's going to 404, so scurry away to your dumb fuck liberal hang out and post about how you showed up those rednecks who want their "Extreme Assault Weapons".
Lol, I giggle every time I type that. How are people this stupid even real?
>>55809381
Only an idiot would pull their gun during a shitstorm confusion of panicked civillians. Best to relocate and then shoot the gunmen once they separate and search for survivors to take hostages
>>55823690
>You may also consider that legal firearm ownership in most states is limited to persons 21
Wrong. No state bans all firearm ownership under 21. Less than 5 prohibit handgun ownership under 21.
>many households may only own one firearm
Wrong. No state holds this prohibition.
>>55822369
I'm not ignoring you, I'm responding to these as fast as I can.
I'm also not liberal. I just think the arguments for allowing certain types of guns in civilian every day life are poor. I "defined" assault weapon for you here: >>55822693
And AGAIN, I never said they were a national epidemic. You are making assumptions. All I've asserted, at all, is that there could potentially be less deaths if certain kinds of guns are banned and that this possibility is worth banning guns over. Sure, I will even concede that more people probably die from hammers. I am not trying to ban hammers because I think hammers are more useful than guns and the utility of hammers outweighs the risk. The utility of guns, I am asserting, does not do this.
Anything else?
>>55823690
>You may also consider that legal firearm ownership in most states is limited to persons 21 and over
This is incorrect, you can purchase longuns at 18 and handguns at 21 through an FFL
>>55823100
>Now you wanted a definition of "assault rifle" for some reason, so hold on
Not from the likes of you ignoramuses I don't.
>>55809381
Shut up faggot, just for that i hope Canada burns!
>>55823376
>moving the goalpost
It really doesn't matter, because either way you're a blue state ivory tower fascist fuckface
You think the government is more responsible with guns than civilians, therefore you indirectly agree with their arming of untrustworthy groups. You're fucking delusional, the government has killed more people in 10 years than civilians have the last 100 years
>>55823787
He didn't say it was a prohibition he was implying that the household only saw one gun as being necessary.
>>55823697
I'm not even liberal though. I just disagree on this one issue. Holy shit.
Again, you had no rebuttal except "thread's going to 404".
>>55823863
UBER PWNAGE
>>55823794
So less than 300 people a year are murdered using the entire category of rifles, a subset of which meets your liberal term of "Assault Weapon" while 6000 people are murdered using handguns, and you harp on "Assault Weapons".
It's called being a spineless fuck, that's what you are. You're trying to reach for low hanging fruit after the Supreme Court declared category bans like DC's handgun ban Unconstitutional.
You've simply shifted your tactics. Your a fucking snake that has to be watched carefully.
>>55823100
>If banning assault rifles eliminates as little as 2 or 3 deaths across the US, then it is worth it
>if spending tens of billions of dollars to send police door to door to confiscate semiautomatic rifles (which account for less deaths than hammers bats and fist a year) at the risk of starting both a police/ military coup d'etat and civilian uprising against the government can maybe possibly in theory save just one life it is worth it
So you're insane and there's absolutely nothing reasonable about your position.
By your same logic we must lop off everyone's hands as well or just lock everyone in a padded single person cell because if it saves just one life its worth it.
Oh and never mind the hundreds of thousands of people who use firearms in self defense every year which grossly outnumbers lives taken in criminal actions.
> But it might reduce it by a couple of deaths per year
No
It
Won't
Being anti gun is as bad if not worse than climate change denial.
It has zero evidence supporting its position that isn't fabricated or manipulated so much so that the movement itself is borderline a religious cult like belief system.
http://www.theacru.org/harvard_study_gun_control_is_counterproductive/
>>55824006
But please keep in mind, he's "not a liberal," see?
>>55822901
Yes you fucking autist, your guns are safe. I'm not trying to take them away or say they should be banned.
So if guns are so bad, prove to me more mass shootings have happened when civilians had guns than when they didn't.
>>55823794
Guns are an irremovable part of the checks and balances system in america. Free men have the right to defend themselves from anybody.
That's their utility. It has nothing to do with death count. Individual lives aren't that important.
The viability of the american government is more important saving a few lives here or there.
>>55824199
But will no one think of the children.
>>55823911
It isn't a matter of disagreement it is a matter of you being a colossally ignorant faggot.
Being anti gun is in the realm of creation science
It is just factually incorrect stance to hold
>>55823787
You've misinterpreted what I said. I said that many households may have just 1 firearm. You're reading it as a legal restriction where I meant that it is a possibility that the household may choose to have only one firearm and feel it is adequate for defense purposes.
>>55824143
Those are FFL regulations. Actual ownership for over 45 states is the legal age of 18. If you think you know more than me about gun laws, you are mistaken.
Private sales and family gifts at 18 are how 18-20 year olds can legally acquire and possess handguns.
>>55824116
>I don't want to take them away or ban them
>but we need to ban "assult wepqons"
Congrats that make over half of the firearms market illegal.
Don't lie through your teeth queermo
>>55823310
If something provides far less utility than it's worth, and it kills a few people a year without providing any utility for them, then yes. I'm saying that certain types of guns, not all types but certain types, are not useful enough to warrant the number of deaths they cause WHEN used by civilians.
>>55824199
this
>>55810036
>"reality" to a leftist
Just seeing a gun will make a criminal shit their pants and move to a easier target, that's why shit goes down so much in "gun-free" zones.
