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>the right supports the removal of SJW's, mudslimes, and other degenerates
>but opposes raising wages for the lower class and making education affordable

>the left supports helping those born into poverty to make something of themselves
>but embraces Muhammad with open arms and thinks hurting black people's feelings is worse than 100+ whites killed in a terrorist attack

There's just no winning. Why can't you guys support a racially pure, degenerate free society that also allows for everyone to have the opportunity (emphasis on opportunity, not guarantee) to make it financially?
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>>55786801

One man had this dream...
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>>55786801
because of two side politics, a system made by the jews because of exactly what you mentioned
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>>55786801
>There's just no winning. Why can't you guys support a racially pure, degenerate free society that also allows for everyone to have the opportunity (emphasis on opportunity, not guarantee) to make it financially?
The alternative-right is largely critical of capitalism and shit but they are all a bunch of faggy ass fuccbois.
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>mfw am a monarchist
>mfw monarchism can potentially fix all of this with little to no downside
>mfw my only fellow monarchists are 100 years old
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>>55787218
How would a monarchy solve anything? The people would be at the complete mercy of the monarchs to make decisions for the benefit of the public.
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raising wages arbitrarily does nothing but raise prices for everything else retard.
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>>55787260
Exactly, are you saying you trust the jew controlled public to make political decisions?
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>>55787294
and before i go to the gym, to answer undoubtedly the next thing you say

>why should i trust a random with power

why should you trust a random who muscled/lied his way into politics with the help of jews rather than someone born into it, raised learning how to rule etc
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>>55787260
The bigger problem is that a monarch can go full retard to the point of commies coming to power. Pic related, this is my argument against monarchists
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>make college affordable
>make college easy as fuck literally high-school v2
>everyone goes to college
>having a college degree is now a must have for some blue collar job that could be done by some shitty high-schooler
>pull salary down
Free college destroys everything.
Letting peasants will destroy everything in the long run.
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>>55787559
>make college easy as fuck
Where did I say that? Give everyone a shot, but only let those with the intelligence and work ethic make it.
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>>55787218
I'm also a monarchist.

Here, in Romania, there is a growing support to restore the Monarchy.

Have faith.
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>>55787632
Jesus christ thats what happens right now you numbskull.
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>>55787851
Then how is it that there are so many people who want to go to college but can't because they have to spend every waking hour working in order to get by?
>student loans
An option that doesn't involve a lifetime of debt?
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>>55787218
Henry the 5th
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>>55787559
Why would college have to be easy just because you're letting everyone apply?

This is a shitty argument. Not allowing only the richest into college doesn't mean education will suffer.
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>>55787941
I meant thr 6th. The guy who was really shit.
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>>55787877
Shouldn't be a lifetime of debt if you choose a fucking profitable career. No, women's studies is not.

>>55787559
This somewhat happens here. People are requiring any degree to work on some public jobs. If you need ANY degree, why the fuck do you need a degree at all? To be general inspector at subway Brazil you also need to have ANY diploma. WHAT'S THE POINT?
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>>55787987
We Americans like to pride ourselves on creating an economy where only those born into wealth can prosper, while telling the poor to pick themselves up by their bootstraps.
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You seriously sound like you would support National Socialism.
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>>55787987
>>55787632
>Why would college have to be easy just because you're letting everyone apply?

Because colleges are ranked on their successful graduation rates and if they create a difficult to pass curiculum (relative to other universities) no one will go to them, they will get a sliver of the money and the low requirement universities will prosper regardless.

Unless you're arguing for a government run tertiary education system, which i doubt, making university a pre-requisite for everyong (by nature of it being so cheap and accessible) is a bad move.

That's what we've done in Australia and it's only served to bolster the problems we have with youth unemployment.
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>>55788316
Couldn't businesses just look at where the degrees came from, disregard those that came from watered down colleges, and therefor lower the demand for those easy to pass colleges?
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>>55788316
Yeah this is a problem with state education internationally. Schools and colleges are judged on league tables and so they switch to the easiest possible qualifications so that they can move themselves up the tables.

Those who don't do this and keep their degrees tough and rigorous are judged as failing.

It's a shitty system, but something which isn't solved by keeping out the poor. It is solved by less focus on competition between universities and a scrapping of league tables.
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>>55787987
Because they would get money from the states.
More students=more money
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>>55786801
the "education" system is what breeds degenerates and SJW you fucking idiot
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>>55787218
>the majority of people make stupid, shitty choices
>the solution is to give one person complete power and hope that they don't make stupid, shitty choices
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>>55788535
But businesses don't have this level of knowledge in higher education and as soon as they spot a qualification which is worthless suddenly the qualification disappears and reappears with a whole new name
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>>55788535
>disregard those that came from watered down colleges,

Those colleges still exist. Those students still spent 4 years there and paid money for it with the cultural promise and expectation they would get a good paying job and career out of it.

You'd get what we have now, graduates bitching about lack of opportunities, but far, far worse because it's even more watered down.

>>55788550
>but something which isn't solved by keeping out the poor

If anything a poor person is in a better position than a middle class person because they can (atleast in my country and most likely america) get assistance both from the government and the universities if they are of the skill level deserving (aka someone who could do really well in a course, but cannot afford to do so).

It isn't about 'blocking out the poor' and letting everyone in would just exacerbate the current situation.

I can't speak on Greece though so maybe it would work for your country.
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>>55788577
Reform the education system to abandon all the bullshit diversity, women's studies, etc nonsense, and focus on teaching those with a desire to learn and prosper with the knowledge and skills to excel in a field of their choosing.
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>>55788577
This also. University education is just shit and wholely useless for the most part.

The information and skills you learn can generally be self-taught and you often find they make you incredibly poorly equipped for the workplace because they're taught by tweed wearing hippies who have no experience of the real world
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>>55788717
> Maybe it would work for your country

Have you not been reading the news. Nothing works for my country
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>>55787263
This. The solution to "creating more opportunity" is actually creating opportunity: bring our manufacturing jobs back.
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That's basically the Danish Peoples Party, the second largest party in the country.
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>>55788831
Bringing manufacturing jobs back will just raise prices even further. The reason you're able to own all the latest things despite not being a sultan is that they're made by Chinese child-slaves.
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>>55786801
oh man it sounds like you want some kinda national socialism or something
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Read over and think about what you are saying.

Giving free college, and welfare and handouts supports both parties political policies.


Groups who historically support democrats and have social policies that agree with democrats

black, women, drug users.

People who typically support Republicans.

White men.


Which group typically gets screwed over by taxes and free handouts?
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>>55786801
>the left supports helping those born into poverty to make something of themselves

No they don't. They support gibmedats, that's all.
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>>55787632
nigs that are in college now are already starting to say that it is raycis to fail them

of course they will make it easier for them
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>>55789181
>Giving free college, and welfare and handouts supports both parties political policies
Since when do republicans support affordable education? Also, I said nothing about welfare, low level jobs should pay enough so that those working those jobs will be making enough money to have a place to live, food, and transportation. I'm not suggesting the poor should be given free smartphones or some shit, just that they should be able to earn enough money to have a modest lifestyle without spending every waking moment working.
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>>55786801
this is pretty much my political stance m8, right wing when it comes to military, foreign policy and immigration, left wing when it comes to closing tax loopholes and increasing taxes on corporations
>there just isn't a party for men like you and i
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>>55787260
I'm not necessarily a monarchist but there are some legitimate arguments in favor of monarchy.
In a democracy with frequent elections, the interest of the ruler is not in the long term, but only for as long as he is in power. Rulers will kick the can down the road, only making those decisions that increase their popularity while trying to make their opponents as unpopular as possible. Considering the human condition, this will necessarily lead to gibsmedat and a huge national debt will pile up. In a hereditary monarchy on the other hand, the ruler never has to fear elections and can actually plan for the longue durée. Especially if his family is guaranteed to remain in power. So the monarch can make tough decisions if he has to, for the benefit of future generations. The monarch can truly care about his people since he doesn't have to worry about winning elections, or becoming more wealthy or any of that crap. Some will argue this might lead to the monarch exploiting or brutally oppressing the people, but this will lead to the one way the ruler can be forced out of power: popular revolution. It is in the best interest of the monarch not to piss off the entire population.

Now obviously this is just one side of the discussion, and not even a side I agree with, I just wanted to present you with the idea.
For a very interesting read on the subject I recommend Hans-Hermann Hoppe's work "Democracy: the God that Failed". I should note Hoppe is himself not a monarchist, he advocates some form of voluntary pseudo-meritocracy pseudo-aristocracy. I don't understand it very well.
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>>55786801

So you're saying you want nationalism AND socialism?
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>>55786801

>Socially conservative
>Fiscally liberal

You are literally the trash of the nolan square
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>>55786801
>but opposes raising wages for the lower class and making education affordable
And how do you expect that to happen? How many times do you people have to be told that to raise wages, the money has to come from somewhere, and that "somewhere" is the fucking taxes. Robbing everyone from their money only to give it back to the "poor" is not okay.
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>>55790496
It is when the rich make their money by exploiting the poor. Minimum wage should keep up with the cost of living, and the wealthy should pay their employees enough to meet that minimal wage. If our economy can't survive without having a class of people working for slave wages, then our economy is fundamentally flawed.
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>>55790805
You can't make a better economy by stealing the money from the rich. It doesn't work like that.
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>>55789963
sounds crazy, but it just might work!
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>>55790805
>I don't understand how economics work
Get off the proxy australia.
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>>55786997
pls come back
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>>55786997
This. Natsoc / fascism are the best alternative
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We're all going to make it bros
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>>the left supports helping those born into poverty to make something of themselves
Funny joke m8, the left is all about keeping poor people comfortable and with as little drive to move up in the world as possible by giving them free shit.
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>>55786801
You can't "make" education affordable unless you're offering education yourself or else forcing other people to provide it at some price you deem sufficiently affordable.
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>>55787477
Wasn't it the provisional government that lost it's power to the commies
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>>55790805

Capitalism isn't a zero-sum game you fucking dolt, that's not how economics works. When you artificially raise the wage of a group to a level that doesn't agree with market equilibrium, the amount of demand for those workers will decrease.
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>>55787477
Bit of a bad argument there Ivan, tsar Nikolas wasnt a terrible tsar at all, what cost him his head were disastrous wars crushing all of Europe, before the wars he was barely hated.
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>>55786801
Sink or swim white motherfucker. Society should promote eugenics and stop promoting the dysgenics of the social welfare system.
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>>55792573
>the amount of demand for those workers will decrease.
actually, with the amount of work that can be automated instead of having to be done by humans, they could raise wages.
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