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ISIS wants to eliminate "the grey zone"
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ISIS wants to incite hatred of Islam in the European population so regular muslims will feel threatened and therefore be forced to make a choice. Renounce their own religion or fight for it.

This is it guys, our enemies will become more and more pronounced, the grey area will wither away and we will be left with two sides, that's when the fighting starts.

>The Muslims in the West will quickly find themselves between one of two choices, they either apostatize and adopt the kufrī religion propagated by Bush, Obama, Blair, Cameron, Sarkozy, and Hollande in the name of Islam so as to live amongst the kuffār without hardship, or they perform hijrah to the Islamic State and thereby escape persecution from the crusader governments and citizens.

https://archive.is/VE0jj#selection-461.0-461.388
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>>55681908
This is not new. This is what Bin Laden outlined when he did 9-11. He wanted Muslims to be persecuted in the west so they had to make a choice and side with him.
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>>55681908
One can only hope.
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the grey area is taqiyya and its even more dangerous
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>>55681908

From the article

>Bush spoke the truth when he said, ‘Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists.’ Meaning, either you are with the crusade or you are with Islam”
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>>55681908

good. I hope they all become radicalized. The Sufi will remain spiritual and not get involved. The Shiite will probably remain somewhat western-friendly (look at fucking lebanon..it's like hollywood).

As for arabs, and asian muslims...I could care less. let them radicalize. Please do!

If we are no longer trying to win their hearts and minds we can finally do what we should have done from the beginning - obliterate every last one of them. We have the hellfire, we just haven't been able to use it due to Marxist/Leftist CuCks.
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Crusaders?

Top kek. These faggot can not possibly make a conquest easier.


The true choice will lie in the few whites that will be forced to either accep Islam up the ads or get jihad
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>>55681908
>implying europe will ever do shit
you faggots will do nothing, you can;t even defend your own homes from your invasions, how could you possibly even conceive of fighting others when you can't even save yourselves? its hypocrasy and sheer idiocy.
\you will do literally nothing but shitpost to death on these forums because you subconsciously expect and welcome the end of everything as i have.
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>>55681908
Good.

We should kill them all, just to be completely sure.
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>>55682212
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
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>>55681908
>we'll be left with two sides
>one of them is 5 times larger than the other
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>siding with radical Islamists
>deserving to live

just one senpai
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This is what Trump wants to do with spics as well.
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>>55681908
Why do they think they can win?
This is what I don't understand.

There is only one way for a technologically and militarily inferior force to "win" this scenario. Immigrate to Western countries, behave, have kids, eventually enact Sharia through simple democracy.
It couldn't possibly be easier, our governments will pay them to be here, all they have to do is show up to get free housing and food and an allowance. Most of the people who might object are too scared of being called racist to do anything about it, the rest are Marxists who encourage it and welcome them.
They don't have to fight a war, they will be payed money to live in a cushy country and spend their time having kids.
Most people wouldn't even see this as an attack, subverting the democratic process through numbers isn't even illegal.
If they could simply bide their time for a couple of decades, and actually behave peacefully and just enjoy the benefits of Western countries, their own enemies would protect and support them.
What could be easier?
To wage holy jihad you don't have to take up a gun and risk your life, just get free money from the government and fuck your wives.

But no, they can't do that, either through primitive bloodlust or some incredible arrogance mistaking European passivity for weakness, they want to start a military war with combined forces that not only dwarf them in terms of technology and strength, but that actually have the power to completely eradicate them and render their countries uninhabitable, something which they have absolutely no defense against.

They can't even stop drone strikes from killing their officers, how do they expect to fight a NATO military campaign? This whole plan depends on NATO not using any of their power or technology to prevent it.

Is it that they're stupid? If they're stupid, how did they get where they are right now?
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Must we remind you of 9/11
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>>55681908
Good, I'm tired of all of the moral relativism from the spineless left. Lets just finish this already and then rebuild
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>>55683028
You are correct, they are completely helpless the moment the west mobilizes its military forces. But what would it take to really make this happen?
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>>55683028
They believe that their God is capable of willing anything into reality.

These are people who see their friends die in drone strikes and thank their God.

Rationality does not even factor into it.
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>>55683028

Think of it as a stroke of luck that they made their move before they were ready.

What now, though?
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>>55681908

They also want to scare all the western weenies into converting to Islam so they can breed with women in true nigger fashion.
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>>55683815
>But what would it take to really make this happen?

A primary school getting severely shot up and people seeing footage of dead children. On top of these other attacks that should be enough
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Good.

I want the fighting to start. This is all I've wanted for months. For years.

It's only a shame that Europe is already lost.
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>>55682302
>Shia
>peaceful

really moron?
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>>55683815
Consider that the only thing inhibiting US forces in Iraq and preventing Israel from totally steamrolling Gaza was massive public outcry.
Normies see dead kids and that upsets them so they protest.
Essentially what IS plans to do is radicalize both sides, make Westerners hate Muslims in order that they feel oppressed and join IS, in doing so they remove that outcry that prevents militaries from just eradicating Muslims like cockroaches.
Is their plan really to remove the leash that prevents the military from killing civilians and using weapons of mass destruction?
How could that possibly benefit them?

>>55684068
There really aren't that many Muslims in the EU, /pol/ makes it sound like a lot worse than it really is.
They're at most between 5 and 10 percent of the worst affected countries.
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>>55683028
>Why do they think they can win?

Because they have been invading Europe with out firing a shot for the last 10 years?

because you people welcome them and elect people to bring more in?

because your leaders encourage them to come to europe and force you to pay for them>

because you are called a racist and jailed if you oppose them?

you did this to yourselves europe
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>>55683866
>>55683028

Pretty much what the roomonkey said.

They are not afraid of drones, nukes, or anything at all. If someone launches a nuke at them, their God will cause it to malfunction and detonate at launch.

They say things such as, "Europe and the United States will live under Sharia Law, God Willing."

They are basically saying that they are absolute shit, but their god commands them so they are invincible.
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>>55684246
Only 6% of Germans were Nazis

what is your point?
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>>55682302
>The Shiite will probably remain somewhat western-friendly (look at fucking lebanon..it's like hollywood).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombing
>The Beirut Barracks Bombings (October 23, 1983, in Beirut, Lebanon) occurred during the Lebanese Civil War when two truck bombs struck separate buildings housing United States and French military forces—members of the Multinational Force (MNF) in Lebanon—killing 299 American and French servicemen

SURE SEEM WESTERN FRIENDLY
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>>55684273
Think of it like this, if you were going to invade a country, let's say US forces were going to invade China, would you base your entire campaign on the Chinese never reacting and letting you march into their cities waving US flags?
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>>55684373

Hitting the occupier in your own country.

Nothing wrong with that.
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>>55684246

They're probably hoping for another Vietnam. They could just go into hiding to keep the movement alive. Only way to end it would be to kill or capture every able-bodied fighting man in the war zone, which the public and politicians would never abide for even if the majority were pushed to hate Islam.
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>>55684246
ISIS plans on forcing an all out war and launch a nuclear strike, thus facilitating human extinction and koranic end of the world.
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>people actually advocate killing 1.5 bn people because of their religion, but blame the lack of "action" on left wing boogeymen
>not realising that genocide of innocent people thanks to a minority of nutters is abhorrent
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>>55684413
Itd make more sense if you used mexico as an example instead of a first world nation
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh_bmcpaUp4
=) enjoy
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>>55684740
I'm actually only advocating kicking them all out.
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>>55684740
>1.5 billion
>minority
Just fuck off and die Ahmed.
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>>55684740
outlaw islam like nazism or communism in europe

either they drop it or leave.
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>>55681908
>muh peaceful majority
That is, until they decide they're numerous enough to change things. It's like you lefty cunts have never seen London, Bradford, Birmingham, Manchester, Rotherham, Oxford, Luton... need I go on?
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>>55683028
Because their culture IS inferior after X amount of generations, they would adopt western values unless allowed to seprate and indoctrinate their kids in smaller communities like you see happening in Sweden.

But if they are allowed "normal" lives they'll eventually lose the ideological battle because western culture is blatantly superior. In light of that, it's not that strange to see them act.
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>>55685535
Lots can be blamed on the "cultural relativist" SJW progressive media, but most people don't like them, They're just keeping silent.
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>>55682598
>truth
>dumb

Sure, nigger, you're not Europe, you don't have to care.
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Repostan because win:

>You deploy the military in secret to all small towns with known Muslims of any kind, in proportion to the estimated number of Muslims there. You send out an emergency alert signal of some kind, telling residents to stay inside. Ten minutes later you drop a precision bomb on the black rock in Mecca.

>Low civilian casualties, when looked at in comparison to the number of casualties that will happen if we leave this unchecked for the next 50 years.

>The number of radical Muslims will increase from 25% to a much larger number- new recruits will be people with radical sympathies. Moderate Muslims who want to live will either renounce their religion or take it underground.

>The problem with fighting an insurgency is that you can't tell who's an enemy combatant and who isn't.

>Radical Islam isn't rational. The people at the top are cunning, but they made a mistake. They use the religion to convince their troops that what they're doing is holy. The leaders know it's bullshit, but the troops believe it with every fiber of their being. They've drunk so much of the Allah brand koolaid that if you destroyed their holiest relic, they would just immediately react out of blind fury.

>Open war would break out in the streets of every nation on earth the second the news gets out. Sleepers would hit us with everything they've got, without time to rework their plans to use it against their intended targets. Except they'd be running straight into a trap.

>You hold the soldiers back until you've got reports of live fire in > 50% of the cities you've reinforced, then you unleash the dogs of war and eliminate the legal enemy combatants.

>Those peaceful Muslims that remained alive at the end would face the choice to either try to force their beliefs on a world where a large number of people have been directly effected by the true face of Islam, and many "normal" people have killed radicals personally, or shut the fuck up and join the 21st century.
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>>55682470
You got some spics on your porch, bro.
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>>55684613
That's not really comparable though.
Every time a Western military has been defeated (or rather exhausted) it was fighting insurgents on their home turf.
A few tens of thousands of soldiers with severely limited resources trying to pacify the entire population of a country who know the terrain and aren't afraid to fight.
In this scenario, a small minority of the population would be fighting the entire military and majority population of the country, they would be poorly armed, they wouldn't have any support from the native population that facilitates resistance movements.
At the absolute best they could temporarily occupy urban areas with large Muslim populations, but how long would that last?

Europe is sick of war, we almost destroyed ourselves the last time, we're sick of sending kids to die in trenches, and we're sick of cities being firebombed.
But if you think that brutality and nationalism has been bred out of us in just a couple of generations of diversity and leftism, a genetic trait that has ensured our survival since the Roman occupations, then you're misinformed.
Europeans do not chimp out, they simmer, their reactions are delayed. To quote Kipling:
"They were not easily moved,
They were icy-willing to wait
Till every count should be proved,
Ere the English began to hate.
It was not preached to the crowd,
It was not taught by the State.
No man spoke it aloud,
When the English began to hate."

Once you have inspired hatred from the average citizen then it's too late, all but the most vocal advocates of human rights are going to turn a blind eye, and what can they really do? When the UN gets concerned, who listens? We turned Dresden to ash, and Germans shared our race and religion, what do you think might happen to dehumanized Muslims?

>>55685080
This is the only non-violent solution I see, legally recognize that Islam is not a religion, it's a competing socio-political system that is incompatible with Western democracy.
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>>55683815
If Paris 2.0 happens again in Germany and the UK, which it looks like it's going to. Saying shit like "notallmuslims" is going to sound outright treasonous when everybody is burying hundreds of their dead as a result of letting muslims into their countries.
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>>55685887
this & that too.

Islam is the bad thing here. I know people from Iran, and they don't behave after any kind of code, they drink, smoke, gamble, they don't rape.

It's basically no true scotsman turned around. Every true muslim is a terrorist and those that aren't "true muslim" are no muslims at all.
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>>55686296
Fuckin TOP BANANA post.
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>>55682302
Imam John McCain (PBUH) is doing a fine job creating Jihadis
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>>55682023
>>55681908
It's a shitty idea since people do not want to fight. It has a real chance to backfire and cause muslims in the EU to fight against ISIS
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>>55687921
If they did that they might actually win the respect of Europeans the same way Sikhs and Gurkhas did.
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>>55683028
After some time their kids would adapt the western mindset and culture, and even marry and have kids with people outside of their religion.
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>>55688589
That's what we were told was supposed to happen already but it doesn't, because these people are allowed to create their own insular mini-society, in weaker countries like the UK and Sweden they're even essentially allowed to live by their own laws as the police are too afraid to intervene incase they get labeled racist.

This screencap details the situation.
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Honestly, at this point in time, Muslims, the non-shitty ones, should just come to a decision to fork their religion and eliminate the blatantly violent shit from it.

Most other religions grew up past those violent stages.
But even those religions were like childs play compared to the shit codified in the very cores of Islam.
Islam is not a religion of peace, it is a religion of conquest.

Most of those completely harmless Muslims don't believe in any of that shit at all, so really, them calling themselves Muslims IS a lie. They aren't true Muslims.

So really, they should just create their own derived religion that holds the core values THEY feel Islam reflects.
Quite a number of religions have had forks and branches that created different sub-groups in those religions.
There is no reason Muslims cannot do this.
They already DON'T follow their religion to the letter, so there is no "harm" done to their following of a religion since the religion they follow doesn't technically exist.
That is the key phrase there. Their religion actually doesn't exist. They follow an imaginary religion based on Islam. (which is hilarious itself)

tl;dr
Fork the fucking Islam faith already, Muslims. You already don't follow Islam to the letter. There is zero harm done in remaking Islam for the people that aren't barbarians.
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>>55681908
Ship the whole Islamic drama out of the country.
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>>55684366
Only 100% of memes were memes

What's your meme?
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