MEXICAN CARTEL VS. ISIS
WHO WINS?
>>55656329
mexican cartels will hire isis as hitmen
then isis will get enough money
isis makes its own cartel
isis become a very powerful well organize mafia
america banish from history
sound bretty cool
Cartel is more ruthless and organized desu
>>55656329
Decent human beans win.
>>55656329
Same shit, different assholes.
more like MexiCAN'T cartel
hehe
>>55656329
if its a battle to the death we all win
ISIS goes to war with the cartels for their degenerate business.
>CIA vs. the CIA
you know thats what you're really asking right?
>>55656329
i mean.. I honestly think that the mexican cartel is probably smarter, because they have a more organized power structure that is reliant on soft power as well as hard power, where as isis is a loose conglomerate of guys with guns and money etc.
>>55657231
Post boipussi dear ladyboy.
The cartels, they operate in and out of north america with operations all over the world, not to mention theyre self financed and have bypassed the most powerful country in the world (amerifats)
Cartel.
More money, smarter (except for the college educated members of ISIS)
>>55657648
MEXICAN LADYBOY VERSUS THAI LADYBOY!
Cartel would get rekt.
>>55656986
Nigger, the entire country is run by cartels
Benicio del Toro
>>55657842
this
it will happen when the world is shitty enough so people can't buy drugs anymore
>>55657912
Thai obv, unless the Mexican ladyboy actually shaves that nasty pubestashe that all Mexis have, and has those latina curves.
N-no homo of course
>>55657947
.. are you serious?
ISIS are a bunch of goons, the cartels would skin them all alive
>>55656329
This would be god tier reality TV how come some jew producer hasn't gotten it on the air yet?
America,America always wins
the narco manages whole countries in latam.
Both are backed by the CIA so which ever one they want to win
>>55657842
>except for the college educated
Usually educated in a Western college, and if you haven't noticed, Western colleges are shit. Somebody with vocational training is probably more useful to ISIS, somebody with machining skills and whatnot
>>55658196
>so people can't buy drugs anymore
Drugs will always be available.
>>55656329
The cartels have the one and only 'El Chapo'.
>>55657648
Mexicans.
They named a street after a folk hero whos name translates to Moor Killer.
They're hardcore Catholics. If it comes to that they'll basically fucking crusade. Imagine a modern crusade comprised mostly of religiously zealous mexicans fueled by coke and a strong murder boner backed by endless guns.
The side that prays to God instead of made up sandpedos.
Cartel 1 - ISIS 0
>>55657912
latino ladyboys are the best ladyboys
>>55656329
Who cares? every kill is a win win .
>>55658696
Wrong.
Asian > White >> Latino >>>>> Black
>>55658451
>western colleges are shit
>http://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/rankings
>93 of the top 100 are Western colleges
GTFO
>>55656536
sounds like the Zetas with the Gulf Cartel
>>55658626
This is 1000% times better then some sharaia law bullshit.
>>55658778
>>55658651
>2015
>having a religion
>>55656329
Actually the ISIS receive support from the Cartel.
The ISIS was probably on the drug market with some cartel
>no suicide bomber
>afraid to die
>no political agenda
>just want money
Cartels will retreat at the single sign of defeat while ISIS fights to the death with their Yankee Jihads idealogy.
Theoretically speaking of course unless you have cowards "Mujahideens" as ISIS then in that case Cartel will prevail.
Speaking of resources cartels have drugs n money but ISIS controls oils in middle east so it's basically the same.
They basically have the same assets but different ideology
ISIS is a professional military organization made up of former Baathist commanders and Al Qaida in Iraq fighters. These are battle hardened fighters that survived a war with the best military force in history.
They have taken over half of Syria and Iraq even though America, Russia, the Kurds and Iran have been trying to stop them.
ISIS would destroy the fuck out of mexican cartels and it isn't even close.
>>55656329
ISIS.. Mexicans only hunt/kill unarmed people
>>55659152
Is France an example of ISIS attacking armed people? Suicide bombing = killing "armed people"?
>>55656329
Cartels are perfectly integrated in our society and work in tandem with our government.
Not to mention limitless resources and money.
You tell me.
>>55658626
My town is called Matamoros, yeah moor killer. kebabs steer away from here.
Mexican Cartel, because the USA will back them and we need our drugs and Shariah Law won't give us drugs
>>55659345
Mata morros is like Child killer.
Morro was a term for like a kid, or young teen in central mexico.
>>55659343
Also this: >>55657524
>>55659152
This is factually incorrect, the cartels will only mess with those in business with them.
In fact, with all the wacky white beta kids going berserk, Mexico is a way safer place to live than the US as long as you're not a drug dealer.
>>55659033
The Cartels are mostly headed by either exmilitary, or the decendents of hard core killers. Cartels have way more experience than shitty sandniggers.
>>55659343
Lol. Good one, spic. They're literally a massive criminal enterprise. They do nothing to assist the government; they compromise it.
Your country is an embarrassment to Western civilization.
Cartels make $64 billion a year.
ISIS makes roughly $1.095 billion a year.
Articles in reply. I can't post them without my post being detected as spam.
>>55659530
>morro = moro
>morro = child.
>moro = arab.
Also, morro is slang.
1 "r" not 2.
>>55659575
It won't let me post the links without them being flagged as spam.
Google 'how much does isis make a year' and 'how much do cartels make a year' and click the first results.
>>55659557
Nothing you said contradicts anything I said, Cletus.
Cartels would literally skin ISIS members then drown them in pig blood
>>55659575
>Pablo used to make $60 million a day
RIP Pablo..would you guys bang Pablos daughter?
>>55656329
ISIS since they're backed by Jewrusalem.
Cartels, they literally have billions of dollars in assets
>>55656329
ISIS easily, as they are literally not afraid to die, have better weapons and are all like WITNESS ME ALLAHU AKBAR.
Oil > Cocaine
>>55659530
You're wrong guy as >>55659634 said i stand correct.
>>55659934
>implying cartel doesn't have oil... fucking central/south america, bish
>>55659799
If I were a little drunk.
>>55656986
I don't think so cartel terror tactics are how isis relax. They need to up the ante, soon we will see a video with a guy getting blown from a cannon
>>55656329
i'd imagine the Cartel since they've been doing their shit for generations, ISIS has some old guys working in it and leading but a lot of it is fresh blood
but really what is is about warmer climates that create shitty people.
isis jihadists seek death. they believe martyrs receive the highest rewards of jannah (heaven).
the cartel just likes money and power. they'll run if there's a chance of losing.
>>55659928
None of these things is correct, if the Cartels wanted, they could get their hands on nukes, and they're also pretty fearless.
>>55659934
It's not just coke.
>heroin
>meth
>weed (not as much as it used to be)
The big one nowadays is heroin. There are hundreds of thousands of junkies in America who spend upwards of $100 a day on heroin. They are absolutely flush with cash.
>>55659734
>>55659343
>Cartels are perfectly integrated in our society and work in tandem with our government.
This implies that they work together to fulfill responsibilities. However, that is not the case. The tie between the Mexican governments and the Cartels is completely one-sided. You either take the bribes, or you get beheaded by Paco.
It's a parasitic relationship.
>>55656329
isis can enjoy the advantage of having a near endless stream of new jihadists
cartel will have to make do with the men that they have
based on numbers isis win
>>55659033
This, Méxicans just being delusional if they think "Panchitos" can beat fighters who abandoned having any personal life and self interests for fighting for their cause, The Cartel fights for money and power, ISIS would die and endure living and killing like animals for their beliefs.
>>55660151
So do jihadists.
Martyrdom breeds bad combatants anyway.
Wanting to live more than the other guy is important in a fight to the death.
Does the cartel have surface to air missiles and a taxation system?
>>55656329
>>55660192
Yet they don't have a giant army seeking International terrorism
>>55660392
Meme
>>55659542
Oh yeah? Tell me what major war VS NATO the cartels survived?
>>55660289
Not really.
>>55660441
>>55660193
>However, that is not the case.
You're right, some Cartels do a better job in taking care of the people than the government.
>The tie between the Mexican governments and the Cartels is completely one-sided.
It is, but towards the cartels, the government is still on top, believe it or not, but the government realized is far more profitable to work with them than against them, i.e. Calderón administration.
>It's a parasitic relationship.
This is true.
>>55660392
>>55660433
Nice doubles
>>55660433
They have the manpower and weaponry to do so, and if they don't have the necessary arsenal, they'd have NO trouble acquiring it as they are absolutely loaded and completely connected.
>>55660278
I'm just curious. What do you see 'El Chapo' as? (Ex. Hero)
>>55660392
CHECKED
>>55660392
>>55660433
>>55660278
You do know most mid-sized cartels and up run with Military efficiency by Military experienced people, don't you?
>>55660468
Yes really
The cartels are inhumanly violent and they don't even do it in the prospect of eternal reward. Take away Islam from ISIS and you have nothing. Mexican cartels are like a collective, real life personification of Michael Myers from Halloween; evil that can't be contained or reasoned with.
>>55658778
correction:
White>Latino>>Asian>>>>>>black
>>55660278
Mexibro's is it true drug cartels, and El Chapo targeted Christians? Specifically Catholics?
>>55656329
Drug Cartels have more money. (and better equipment?)
ISIS is going to have more fighters and suicide bombers.
Drug Cartels have high trained fighters but not as many members as ISIS.
ISIS has lots of low level recruits and some very highly trained fighters with years of experiencing.
>>55660466
Tell me when ISIS has survived a war agianst NATO. No one has boots on the ground.
>>55659542
Experience in what? Killing citizens and rival cartel members?
ISIS and previously Al Qaeda has been fighting the western world for fifteen years. They have established an independent 'state' and just seized nearly all of Iraqi military assets.
If your argument is wealth then you lose their because even if they lose out their they are bank rolled by the Saudi elite
>>55660542
This is dumb as fuck. ISIS beat the shit out of a military backed by Russia and Iran (Syria) and NATO (Iraq) and even after the most powerful countries in the entire world have been bombing them they have survived so far.
They are battle hardened against the biggest military's in the world. This isn't the mexican government we're talking about. This is Russia and the USA.
>>55660494
Hence the part where you're a cartel sympathizing retard who's somehow convinced that they aren't currently the worst thing for your country.
The are responsible for your drug epidemic. They are responsible for a large portion of your crime. They do not take care of you. The moment they disappear, the sooner Mexico will become a respectable nation. Until then, you're a compromised shithole.
>>55660729
Not him, but I don't think it's true, most cartels are very religious.
>>55660779
ISIS is made up of Al Qaida in Iraq and Baathist generals. They literally survived the war in Iraq against the US and Nato. Retard.
>>55659934
With a barrel of oil fast approaching <$40, I'lI buy one just to dunk my left nut in. Cocaine will cost you more than that
>>55660566
Checking my own dubs
>>55660876
Isis is made up of fresh recruits now. Why do you think that they keep recruiting people from all around the world?
>>55660929
>>55660929
>>55660929
because they keep dying, they suck.
>>55660812
There are NO ground troops currently. Putin announced that he was going to deploy 150,000 troops to fight ISIS on 10/27, but he hasn't done it yet. All they've really faced are Kurdish resistance groups & American drone strikes.
>>55660818
Heh, I'm not a cartel sympathizing retard, I hate cartels, I just know how things work, they ARE the worst thing for my country.
Are you illiterate or something amigo? Why so hell bent in antagonizing me?
>They are responsible for...
All of this is true.
Cartel. Spics > akbars
infact let me rank the
whites>asians>hispanics>jews>blacks>akbars
The number of members and suicide bombings is really the thing the tips the scale with this argument. ISIS can pretty much recruit a bunch amateurs to us as canon fodder to blow themselves up.
>>55660929
Oh yeah, you're right. Fresh recruits from social media are able to devise a military strategy capable of taking over half of two countries. It's not the hardened military commanders and leaders who have survived the war in Iraq.
>>55661019
Of course there aren't yet, and when there are, ISIS will be destroyed. That's not what this conversation is about though.
>>55660729
ISIS is funded by literal oil landowners. They have access to more wealth than it seems
ISIS is creating specops tier groups with the help of baathist commanders.
ISIS literally is taking over multiple countries fighting some of the the largest powers in the world.
ISIS has a larger kill count
>>55660601
I do, which is often why the average state policeman can't do jack shit against them, but ISIS fighters have experience fighting against far stronger forces, ISIS has experience fighting people who is sometimes even better equiped than them, they live for nothing but Fight 24/7 and are ready to die at any moment.
>>55661095
Yes, it is. You made it sound like ISIS has already fought against American troops. And yes, if 150,000 Russian troops actually are deployed, ISIS is fucked. Nobody is arguing against that I don't think. And you're right, this isn't what this conversation is about, but you decided to bring America and NATO into this.
You're the retard. Go fuck yourself, you illiterate simpleton.
>>55660929
The new recruits are cannon fodder (e.g. suicide bombings), easily replaceable low cost, high risk, high reward.
They do have more experienced members though, and they don't do suicide bombings.
Cartels still have MUCH more money, and they could probably hire a lot of well trained mercenaries instantly.
>>55661095
Well, for starters, their pushes have mostly stopped nowadays. Second, they took the territory of two wartorn countries, with their militaries in shambles or othewise fighting in other fronts. That's why they can't breach into Iran, or fucking Kurdistan.
>>55661321
>Yes, it is. You made it sound like ISIS has already fought against American troops
ISIS has already fought against American troops. Their leadership and military command are the same people who fought against US in the Iraq war.
Learn a little bit next time, friend.
>>55661024
Dude no Asians suck at warfare, South Americans and Mexicans actually had some victories against France and the USA.
>>55656329
Trump.
>>55661429
>ISIS has already fought against American troops.
doing what exactly? hiding and using women and children as suicide bombers?
Do Cartels even routinely get into firefights? Most of what you hear from them is a bunch of guys in tactical gear kidnapping some hick drug mules/informants and beheading them on film, or assassinations where they're mowing down some guy with assault rifles down the street from a shopping mall or in some backwater town while he's doing the rounds.
>>55661147
>ISIS is funded by literal oil landowners.
Yea, but if it gets to costly, they will probably abandon ISIS for some other group.
>ISIS is creating specops tier groups with the help of baathist commanders.
Is this really true? I know they are working with secularists groups secretly. Got any sources for the spec-ops though?.
>>55661429
That's just a fraction of ISIS forces. ISIS is primarily comprised of rather fresh recruits.
>>55661147
ISIS is going to start WW3
To the point about no troops on the ground. ISIS is more sophisticated and stronger than AL Qaeda who survived many years against a very large coalition force. ISIS is also comprised of top members of the the aforementioned group. They have more experience and a very strong chain of command and battle hardened senior nco level people.
What are the advantages of the cartels? A corrupt ineffectual government and apathetic population.
>>55661446
Your sentence is a bit vague. Dude, no Asians suck at warfare? Dude, no. Asians suck at warfare? Punctuation is key here.
>>55661429
>implying commanders are not especifically targeted in air raids, which have been occuring for more than a year now
>Implying that what little commanders they have left are not the commanders that brought defeat to their armies.
>>55661504
Yeah, you're right. The war in Iraq was a picnic. The US army found no resistance from Al Qaida in Iraq or the Baathist party. You serious nigga?
>>55661618
>>55661538
What percentage of the cartels have faced such military force?
>>55656329
Everybody really
>>55658626
The spaniards who raped the indians in mexico were the sons of those who took back spain from the muslims. Mexican rape babies have moor killing in their genes. Probably explains why they are so violent and cruel.
>>55661709
Considering that most of the field officers are stil alive and active since the 90s, Id say that quite a bunch.
Especially considering that to be a zeta you need to have previous military experience.
>>55656329
my money is on the mexicans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzod0gFjHIw
>>55660656
You have it backwards retard, white boys that pass are way rarer.
>>55656329
this would be the best battlefield style game ever
>brb starting kickstarter to develop it
>brb revving up my fake ISIS twitter accounts to start trolling narco accounts and hopefully spark a war
>>55661644
I don't think we are hitting the GMCIR hard though.
So the ISIS members can still get really good training.
They do the training and take care of the planning behind the scenes for ISIS
"is a Ba'athist militant group active in Iraq headed by Saddam Hussein-era military and political leaders"
75k members
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Military_Council_for_Iraqi_Revolutionaries
>>55661268
I have to admit I don't know much about ISIS, but aren't they tiny compared to the bigger Cartels?
>>55661823
Oh yeah? What major military wars have they been in VS the United fucking States?
>>55661911
No, they have been recruiting across the world.
>>55661911
>>55656329
Yea OP which drug cartel are you talking about??
>>55661536
Inghemasiyoun who are kamikaze like in their tactics. They spearheaded the Syrian assault. High losses and effective results.
They got btfo assaulting a legit US base.
All seriousness aside, I think there was a shitty mexican movie about this same thing.
It was called slavando al soldado Pérez or something.
>>55661709
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Drug_War
Well-trained, well-equipped militants in a highly-organized force qualifies as 'military' in my mind. The cartels fought against other cartels, the Mexican military, etc
how is this a question?
mexcants cant do anything right
>>55661768
Noice
>>55661948
Probably the reason they are alive is because there has been no such war, but my point stands, If people who have been fighting for 15+ years are leading people that have fought for 5+, then you are going to have a more competent fighting force than one lead by people fighting for 3 years leading fresh recruits, even if they have been fighting against actual armies.
>>55662017
Cartels and the Mexican Military are nowhere near the military force of the US and Nato. you are dreaming.
>>55661911
ISIS was also tiny compared to the Iraq Army and the Syrian Army. Their ruthlessness and battle hardened status, plus their sick as fuck devotion to death and destruction make them more dangerous than all the cartels in mexico combined.
This conversation in itself is retarded. The cartels are scary and evil as shit, ISIS is scary and evil as shit, but only one is a military concerned with controlling territory and if the two fought ISIS would take the cartels territory and slaughter the shit out of them.
>>55656329
The world.
>>55656329
Beni's
>>55661996
The DEA.
>>55662041
But we can do everything half right, my spic friend. We are just too lazy to finish the work.
>>55659033
Finally someone that knows what they're talking about
>>55662219
Like how they slaughtered the shit out of the kurds right?
OH WAIT
>>55661911
ISIS is estimated anywhere from 20k to 200k in Iraq alone.
I can't find any cartel numbers
>>55662041
>So says the colombian
The last word, everybody.
>>55661911
Some information
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant
>Bull shit Estimate between 52,600-257,900.
Kurds
>Claim 200k
ISIS
>Claim 100k
CIA
>Claim 20-31k (most reliable source)
"Originated as Jamāʻat al-Tawḥīd wa-al-Jihād (1999)"
16 years of experience + more from old baithist leaders.
Have Cells in Afghanistan, Egypt, Algeria, Saudi Arabia, Libya, Syria, Lebanon,Turkey Iraq Yemen, Pakistan, India, Nigeria, North Caucasus, S.E. Asia and if the France attack was ISIS, then Europe too.
>>55662354
The cartels would get the shit kicked out of them by the peshmerga as well, if they were trying to invade Kurdistan. The peshmerga are also battle hardened as fuck from fighting military forces of Iran and Iraq for decades, and they are backed by the US government.
They have the same religious will to die for their homeland that ISIS does. The cartels do not.
>>55659345
Eyyyy I'm in Matamoros!
>>55661768
This makes me feel proud t.b.h.
>>55656329
There are actually a lot more people in ISIS than some of the bigger cartels.
Not to mention ISIS has easy access to armored vehicles where as the cartels not so much.
The only thing the cartels have on them is a constant source of drug money, but I don't think anybody will sell armored vehicles to a cartel.
Cartel all the way.
More manpower.
Massive budget. (one drug lord was reported having billions of dollars)
Way more organized.
>>55662468
My bad.
>CIA
>Claim 20-31k (most reliable source)
(Inside Syria Only)
32k-57K outside of Syria.
So according to the most reliable info
they are 52.6k to 88.9k Strong in total
>>55662484
Even threat their families or their homes and they get the same frevor. That's why the cartels win in their states, but when they extrapolate they meet similarly armed people willing to defend their homelands.
Burger, please, you don't think that people with no loyalty to their nation would put loyalty to their family first? Or is your only experience with criminals are niggers?
>>55661911
200,000 Members according to this:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/war-with-isis-islamic-militants-have-army-of-200000-claims-kurdish-leader-9863418.html
Don't really have an estimate on cartel members, but ISIS not really looking tiny to me.
>>55662618
The drug money from the cartels is a lot, but the oil money from ISIS trumps it. Hundreds of millions of dollars per month.
>>55661768
combined with the penchant for sacrifice in mesoamerican civilizations
>>55662620
>Cartel all the way.
Which Cartel though.
ISIS is one specific terror group, among many others.
Cartel could mean any drug Cartel, there's so many, and a lot of them fight each other.
>>55656329
Arabs have an IQ of 80 on average. Lowest on earth except for parts of Africa.
As soon as the shit starts they go into a mad frenzy and have atrocious discipline.
Arabs are the worlds worst soldiers mate.
ISIS execute people for shock value, Cartels do it for fun. Shit hits the fan the Arabs run.
Shit hits the fan and the Mexicans double down and take as many as they can with them because if they run away they'll get skinned alive for being a coward.
>isis wants to kill americans
>americans buy drugs from cartel
>isis wants to kill cartels customers
i would love to see what would happen
>>55662689
>>55662689
They are already facing hostages and beheadings and whatever else fits their need.
Cartels haven't been fighting for independence on multi front war for years. Kurdish patriotism is insane. It makes us burgers look absolutely Canadian.
>>55662618
Mexican wit is underrated t.b.h.
And at least the Z and some branches from some cartels have military training, i think Mexico could win. We have had some cool military history like Zaragosa defeating the french army or Pancho Villa doing whatever he wanted for a while.
>>55656329
The white race.
>cartels get btfo - this really shaky "they're practically refugees" argument gets BTFO even by the standards of the retards that believe it
>ISIS gets btfo - maybe Europe has a future. Honestly don't care. Plus the keks would be pretty good.
>>55662795
ISIS isn't just a terror group. They are a fucking military and a country that controls a significant portion of land.
>>55662001
it was a mexican drug lord who went to iraq to save his little brother. it was alright
>US government buys all marijuana from cartels.
>Dump marijuana bombs on top ISIS
>ISIS gets high and don't put up a fight
>easy cleanup of ISIS
Everyone happy.
>>55663133
Oh god yes, this please. Why aren't we dropping marijuana bombs on ISIS.
>>55657912
LOL
>>55662850
This x 100.
People tend to forget that Mexicans are basically a hybrid race of native americans and Spaniards. Though they lack the high intelligence variance and physical strength cap of Europeans, mexibros are by no means retarded or gutless cowards.
>>55656329
ISIS, because they believe they are doing their shit for their god, the retards in the cartels are just for the dosh
>>55662618
columbian cartels bought russian submarines
>>55662041
>Escobar had to kill kids to be feared.
nothing to see here
>>55656329
Cartels will get blown the fuck out.
ISIS are jihadists who believe death is the highest honor they can achieve.
Meanwhile cartels are only in on it for the money.
>>55656329
Which cartel are we talking about? Sinaloa? zetas? gulf? knight templars?
>>55663383
>>55663564
What it ISIS kills the cartels best market (americans)?
>>55663487
Paras from Colombia would have destroyed any mexicartel though.
>>55663573
I think all
>>55663667
How?
The best they can do is take out 5 people a day.
This wont suddenly make the cartels lose their markets.
>>55663026
>cool military history
>Santa Anna
>>55663026
Holy fuck!
Those submersible vehicles.
>ISIS vs Mexican Drug Cartel
Anyone else would pay to see this?
>>55664149
ISIS
because they have Abram M1
>>55663319
Thanks for the support Ameribro, you guys know your insurgents that's for sure.
The Cartels might not be as 'battle hardened' (although the US have never been close to full blown war since ww2, Iraq got given America at 1% effort) in traditional war terms, but;
The Cartels have been both evading and at times collaborating with the TOP level of drug enforcement and intelligence/customs agencies in order to survive and deliver drugs. They're politically and strategically wired in. Decades of practice.
So the Cartels may not be as battle hardened, but their organizational intelligence and mental strength is 100's of times greater than ISIS.
IMO of course.
From videos I've seen from American army in the middle east I'm sure that Cartels would win pretty easy, moors are pretty dumb when it comes to battle.
Add to that the money and the guns cartels have from our neighbor.
>>55661519
They have done it but it's pretty rare as they prefer assassination rather than direct combat.
Gun fights are the last resort.
>>55656329
Isis of course, cartels is a business, Isis will never quit even when dead because they are insane. Only solution is to burn all evidence of their religion and let Islam get eradicated.
>>55657842
>educated members
You mean the large number of engineering grads who couldn't find jobs and are associated in many major attacks as suicidal bombers/gunmen?
>>55664465
That's quite a nice Texas you've got there. Mind if I make it independent and write a constitution based on the one form 1824?
>>55664746
>(although the US have never been close to full blown war since ww2, Iraq got given America at 1% effort)
I know you are just shitposting, Ozbro, but of course no one in the world will ever get America at 100 percent force like WWII. We dropped atom bombs on Japan for fuck sake. The entire point of America is we WON'T throw our military 100 percent at people unless absolutely necessary. We aren't a colonialist nation. We aren't trying to take over the fucking world, we don't want it. We have Manifest Destiny already.
>>55656329
Did Brolly died?
ISIS is filled with batshit crazy religious cunts, cartes are just a bussines
ISIS is more determinated to kill the enemy than the cartels... I dunno if this is a factor or not, but that would be interesing to watch
>>55665187
>Knowing that Islam will dominate the world fills you with determination.
Would the Mexican Cartels form alliances with the Columbian Cartels and other groups if they were to fight ISIS?
>>55665315
>>55663319
>spics aren't THAT retarded and THAT cowardly
gee thanks amigo.
Spics have a terrible fire ratio of hits to misses
Kebab have real combat experience and know how to hit a target
ISIS beats them badly
old cartels were like spec ops-trained, right? so assuming the numbers were similar, them.
If they were to fight, it would not be pretty.
Both sides almost have the same mentality and both sides would kill hundreds of people over something small to spread a message.
That being said, I believe the cartels would win the fight. Reason? Money and literally government support. Anyone can protest against ISIS but try that shit in Mexico and you'll end up being beheaded online along with the rest of your family and anyone with the same last name as yours. That being said, the cartels have millions of cash in their hands that they can easily blow off to weapons, vehicles, explosives etc.
What would also matter is the environment in where they fight. Send the cartels so where ISIS is and the cartels are abound to lose. Send ISIS to Mexico and ISIS is on the path to failure. This part of the reason why the US got their ass handed to them by Vietnam and USSR by sandniggers
>>55656329
they're both supplied with CIA guns
>>55666101
Have you see Isis fight?
They literally think they're Rambo.
It's like a giant nerf battle for them.
I'd side with the cartels. They at least aren't stupid and wreck less enough to run into the fire unload a magazine randomly so they can make a video for their Jihad videos. Cartels are also very organized.
The Cartels fight against the DEA and Mexican Military, ISIS fights against many military forces. ISIS also has captured humvees and tanks and jets. Every kill on both sides would be a win/win... but his is a curbstomp for isis
>>55666819
Pretty much this.
Another thing to consider though, is that ISIS potentially has access to many more weapons than they're provided or could buy.
The last time a war occurred around Mexico was over a hundred years ago with relatively shit rifles.
There have been countless wars in ISIS neck of the woods, the potential for them to have caches of abandoned but perfectly serviceable, modern firearms is staggering.
I mean fuck there was news a while back that some of the ISIS fighters in Syria were using STG44's...
>>55657959
I really like Mexico. I wish we could just come down and liberate you but we would just fuck it up even more
It highly depends where they are fighting. If ISIS are fighting in Mexico, the cartels have defensive advantage and now the terrain. I doubt ISIS are smart enough to do some tactics before going into Mexico. On the other hand, Cartels are highly organised and have a higher chance on the offensive than ISIS. Though, Mexico and the middle east have similar terrain and climate.
YOURE ALL MISSING THE POINT.
I say we round up every gypsy in Europe, and we round up gang bangers, and prisoners from the states, drop them in Syria, and whoever survives and kills ISIS is granted freedom/citizenship
Wetbacks ITT: "OUR MASS MURDERING THUGS ARE THE BEST IN THE WORLD NUMBER ONE NUMBER ONE NUMBER ONE
Stop this shit, Jose, only the US gets to reveal in our deficiencies.
>>55667980
It's only a matter of time.
If Trump wins the election, that might even happen.
War if expensive and Trump is a businessman, if you can lower the cost of war by offsetting it with a TV production of gypsys killing ISIS for COLD HARD CASH AND FREEDOM - I don't see why he wouldn't.
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>>55667954
Another factor that favours ISIS is that the Cartels are never allied. They always fight eachother and are trying to eradicate eachother.
>>55667954
>Though, Mexico and the middle east have similar terrain and climate.
This true, but each side knows their own networks of hideouts and places where they can use as traps or setups in their own environment.
Cartels.
Better networking and political clout.
ISIS is merely a cult.
>>55668370
Only during normal times.
If ISIS attacked the cartels they'd ally, even if only temporarily.
Much like the factions of the Yakuza joining forces when they feel something is slighting the organisation as a whole.
>>55668349
Jesus fucking christ stop shilling, you fucking demon
>>55656329
Cartel had a lot of years on those ISIS boys, but then again I don't know how many hardcore old ass Jihadists are involved with ISIS.
>>55656329
Boko haram trumps them both
Also, chances are that it will not be a 1v1 fight. Chances are that the Cartels will have many more allies, due to the interests of the Americans and their allies.
>>55668422
True to some extent. ISIS are nonstop recruiting from other countries and are always changing territories. In my opinion the Cartels are more organised when it comes to the networks and hideouts.
>>55668668
This is true, but there is a big chance for ISIS to have a deal with some smaller cartels.
>>55668762
Shilling what?
The cartels?
Trump?
The Media industry?
I'm honestly confused as to what I'm being labelled a shill for.
>>55656329
>Everyone
>>55668925
>Also, chances are that it will not be a 1v1 fight. Chances are that the Cartels will have many more allies, due to the interests of the Americans and their allies.
>all those grammatically incorrect repeating of words
>>55656329
none
the cartels are working with alqaeda/ISIS
