>Rand Paul Challenges Bernie Sanders To Hour-Long Debate On Socialism vs. Capitalism
http://truthinmedia.com/rand-paul-bernie-sanders-debate-socialism-capitalism/?utm_content=buffer80d90&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
Who wins?
Rand is the voice of reason among the GOP so, Rand.
>>55536115
Socialism is more popular, so it will probably win.
Its also taller.
Capitalism works and socialism doesn't, so it's obvious Rand will win. Bernie has an IQ of 85 and is senile, Rand is a Dr. and a handsome young man.
>>55536115
What would Rand know about capitalism?
He's just a senator.
Where were you when /pol/ when full Rand??
>Rand complains about socialism (doesn't understand it)
>Rand complains about room sizes at Republican event and demands equality (when he can't even get 5% nationally)
Confirmed for moron.
>>55536115
Based.
>tfw Rand Will be a goat candidate by 2024
Democratic Socialism and capitalism are not completely incompatible. Americans don't have to be fucked this hard by corporations.
>>55536115
Everybody. Rand and Bernie are the future of their respective parties, as they both represent the two most popular strains of political thought among the under-30 crowd.
Really hope Bernie doesn't puss out on this.
Bernie couldn't even properly explain himself on Bill Maher's show, who even supports Bernie.
>this is what liberals actually believe
>>55536763
Rand would win on the issues, but Bernie would stray to pathos garbage allowing the left media to say he "won"
>>55537000
I don't think Bernie knows what socialism is.
Or he's confused.
>>55537027
>Rand would win on the issues
Said every fanboy. Gee, my candidate won the debate!!!111.... what a shocker, fanboy.
STAND WITH RAND
STAND WITH RAND
>>55536115
Rand's trying to win the new youth vote. There's a generation of politically active young adults that were sold on libertarianism by his dad, so now he's trying to lay the smack down on Sanders to get young bluepilled socialists on his side.
>>55537100
>Trump fags are still salty
Hilarious
>>55536220
>>55536243
>>55536316
>>55536654
Why do keks still come here? Even if you don't like Rand, any form of right wing politics will essentially always be better than any left wing politics
>>55537064
He either doesn't or he's being intellectually dishonest. The model of government he appears to support is social democracy.
He's far from a socialist.
>>55537156
>so now he's trying to lay the smack down on Sanders to get young bluepilled socialists on his side
Rofl. They're only after their parents money. Period. That's why they target the youth... young, dumb, and money easily parted. Each new generation wises up to these morons at CATO, Mises, and Rand institute, so they must latch on to the next crop to keep their wallets full.
i would love to watch this. these 2 guys are the only ones worth anything in the race.
Which is funny because they are at opposite ends.
>>55536115
nobody wins because snaders gets btfo his podium by a wild Jynx
Both of them are desperate for attention so they might as well just do it
>>55537100
READ THE DEAL YOU DUMB SHILL
>>55537355
>A wild Nicky Minaj appears.
>>55537422
Rand can't even get 5% nationally... and you're still talking?
>>55536115
Sanders and his commie fag followers don't understand that you must sacrifice economic security to obtain true, objective personal freedom. This was a particularly popular belief back in the Enlightenment all the way to the 1820's or so. Now, workers want to claim, "Education as a right, healthcare as a right, authoritative equality for all," at any cost whatsoever, even if it means turning violent such as what is happening at Mizzou.
Required readings for Liberty:
The Law by Bastiat
The Road to Serfdom by Hayek
The Declaration of Independence by Jefferson
Common Sense by Thomas Paine
Anyways, to summarize, true liberty requires economic sacrifice. And because of the way our society and culture is today, they are willing to elect a literal socialist that goes against everything that America was founded on.
I'm not really saying which is better, but there is trade off. That is why Bastiat said that there can be no fraternity because fraternity corrupts equality.
>>55537422
READ THE DEAL YOU DUMB SHILL
>>55537218
Rand is smart but aligning yourself on party lines is ridiculous. Both sides have some valid points.
>>55537027
>Winning on the issues.
This is the problem with modern day conservatives. They're too focused on concrete facts whilst the left focuses on emotional appeals.
In a weak nation, guess which one will prevail 9 times out of 10?
>>55536115
Bernie won't accept, he's a coward.
>>55537631
No, the problem with modern conservatives is that we've let evangelical/protestant shitheads steer the boat for 2 decades.
>>55537422
Rand never read the deal past the wikipedia entry.
Trump actually knows that the deal allows a product to say "Made in America" despite having 55% of the goods by COST being from china.
>>55537489
>Sanders and his commie fag followers don't understand that you must sacrifice economic security to obtain true, objective personal freedom.
Objective personal freedom.... for capital, not people.
You left out that part, wannabe anarchist.
>>55537202
Sanders wants to tax everyone, trump wants to tax waaaay less.
Sanders wants to create more government funding while trump wants to close down departments.
Sanders says immigration is bad but I doubt he has a plan to stop it nor has any balls to follow through with it, trump has a wall.
Sanders being anti-establishment is news to me.
>>55537756
China is not one of the signing, agreeing states listed on the deal.
Trump shills really are the dumbest shitposters on /pol/
>>55537693
What does Bernie have to gain from debating a nobody? Rand can't even get 5% nationally.
Rand's just begging for attention, like a good government welfare slut.
>>55537483
Says the autist from >>55536142 who can't even shill properly.
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/Couple%20rand%20paul/image/orEgqcjNeaekV5B3NMEPtQ/
Fuck outta here
>>55537864
>What does Bernie have to gain from debating
I totally forgot it was the CURRENT YEAR and you don't need to do any of that boring dumb debating shit when you can just post on twitter all day to win the hearts and minds of voters.
>>55537789
No, indeed for individual liberty.
Summary of Bastiat's The Law:
>In The Law, Bastiat says "each of us has a natural right – from God – to defend his person, his liberty, and his property". The State is a "substitution of a common force for individual forces" to defend this right. The law becomes perverted when it is used to violate the rights of the individual, when it punishes one's right to defend himself against a collective effort of others to legislatively enact laws which basically have the same effect of plundering.
Summary of The Road to Serfdom:
>[Hayek] further argues that the abandonment of individualism and classical liberalism inevitably leads to a loss of freedom, the creation of an oppressive society, the tyranny of a dictator, and the serfdom of the individual. Significantly, Hayek challenged the general view among British academics that fascism (and National Socialism) was a capitalist reaction against socialism. He argued that fascism, National Socialism and socialism had common roots in central economic planning and empowering the state over the individual.
Bastiat was before Marx's Das Kapital, friend and still his point stands. Any law giving protection of a certain group is plundering from another through taxation or the liberty of another. Hayek's book was in 1944 and indeed on political organization. However, he concedes on a few things regarding laissez-faire, and displacement of workers due to technology, etc.
Now this, i'd watch.
Has Bernie responded?
>>55537864
Well meme'd
Reminder that Carson is finished, Bush is finished, Trump is losing steam by the week and Paul jumped up 5 slots in recent polling.
I love Trump and Rand, and there's no way Sanders is going to do this, because all Bernie will do is shit his depends and yell, "TOP 1% WILL DO IT BECAUSE FAIR SHARE."
How the hell do you argue against Socialism when it has no rigorous definition, no agreed upon framework, no math, and (according to socialists) never been practiced.
Rand won't be able to do anything without sanders backing up and claiming "Yeah, well the soviet's planned economy failed, but that wasn't REAL socialism. MUH POOR MINORITIES"
>>55538098
>Losing steam
LOL
>>55538041
Also, I'm not a wannabe anarchist. I just like reading books. If these men are going to argue philosophy, they should be well rooted and not just go full retard like Rand often does in debates.
>>55538041
>No, indeed for individual liberty.
That's not an answer.
>In The Law, Bastiat says "each of us has a natural right – from God – to defend his person, his liberty, and his property".
Wut. Go away, bible thumper. Slavery was justified with you morons.
>>[Hayek] further argues that the abandonment of individualism and classical liberalism inevitably leads to a loss of freedom
Bahaha, classical liberalism brought us slavery, genocide, indentured servitude, child labor, land stealing (see North, Central, and South America).... gimmie a break, kid.
>Bastiat was before Marx's Das Kapital, friend and still his point stands.
What? Marx is not an anarchist, you dumb shit. Do you understand libertaranism and its origins? They were against Marx and the First International... and they were American styled "libertarians" (right wing), they were anti-capitalists. Right wingers came along and usurped a label, sprinkled bs capitalist rhetoric, and called themselves anarchists (aka the origin of European libertarianism.
>>55537818
Might want to read the deal because china doesn't have to sign to take advantage of it.
They're going to send unassembled products to taiwan and take a 2% cut so that they can take a 0% tariff when it gets sold to us.
Also enjoy buying products that say "Made in America" that are actually mostly made in china.
>>55537818
This pic is really accurate.
>>55536115
>challenges him
Should have just walked in on one of his rallies and keked him. It's really that easy.
>>55538265
>and they were American styled "libertarians"
and they WEREN'T
Rand would win. Bernie's too much of a pussy to do it though.
Join #ProjectPaul on kik though senpai
>>55537974
rand is irrelevant to the 2016 race, why should any nominee give him attention? He should worry about his senate seat, the only place that still actually remembers he exists
>>55538290
Holy fuck that would be awesome.
>>55537818
>>55538333
>Berniedict Sanderbatch
I just let out the most retarded-sounding laugh of my life.
>>55536227
>Handsome
>Father had to be gynecologist to tell the difference between when Rand was birthed and a zygote
>>55537202
disinfo
>>55538290
>Should have just walked in on one of his rallies and keked him. It's really that easy.
Too bad Trump already pulled that one on Rand in first debate. He got stomped like a little bitch... then cried that his room was too small and demanded equality.
>>55538333
>Berniedict Sanderbatch
Based....Rand....Paul
>>55538341
Doesn't matter where Rand is in the race, if you're confident in what you believe in you can debate anyone just for the publicity. You can get more supporters even if you don't win the debate because some people out there will still like what you're saying, it's that simple m8. Refusing this challenge will make Bernie look weak, like he's not even fit to debate a so called irrelevant candidate let alone a front runner.
>>55538265
Jesus, you are retarded. Are you arguing for the sake of it? Here we go.
>That's not an answer.
Yes, it is. Neither of them in those books I mentioned are talking about capital. There is a whole wide variety on what YOU are referring to, but you are wrong on what I am referring to. Read the original post where I took my statements from.
>Wut. Go away, bible thumper. Slavery was justified with you morons.
This confirms you never read Bastiat. He is against the United States' slavery and import tariffs. And I'm not religious. That was a summary of his book, not mine. But many Enlightenment thinkers held the idea that we had natural rights. Whether they are "God given" is a whole different story. Also, Bastiat was French.
>Bahaha, classical liberalism brought us slavery, genocide, indentured servitude, child labor, land stealing (see North, Central, and South America).... gimmie a break, kid.
Sounds more like colonialism brought us those, not classical liberalism. You seem to misunderstand classical liberalism, kid. Hayek was Austrian and later had a British citizenship by the way.
So neither are "American-styled" as neither were fucking American, kek.
>What? Marx is not an anarchist, you dumb shit.
I never said he was. I said Bastiat was before Marx. I understand Marx has the labor theory of value in regards to exploitation of the worker.
> Do you understand libertaranism and its origins?
Sure do. Seems, however, you don't, kek.
>>55538571
>based
>>55537202
Trump is NATIONAL socialism
Bernie is national SOCIALISM
See the difference?
>>55536372
You mean Greg Abbott
Who will host the debate? Because all the big media companies will puss out and say fluff questions like "gee, how much do you guys like freedom?"
Oh wait, that's if its the guys that media wants to win, they might actually ask real questions if Its Rand VS Bernie.
>>55536220
Hard to make fun of Rand when Sanders is literally the same height
>>55536290
Shitposting, watching the last debate
>>55538657
Rand is the only candidate who has openly stated that he will cut funding to Israel.
>>55538677
The only difference is which team they offend more.
>>55538733
Sanders passes for normie height at 5'10"
Capitalism is the foundation of economics. Socialism aka govt regulation only should ever happen in case of market failure. Market failure is as follows
Monopoly
Oligopoly
Natural monopoly
Negative externalities
Positive externalites
Asymetric information
This is well known if you are an actual economist.
If you are advocated for govt intervention when one of these 6 things is not occuring you are an idiot.
>>55538643
>Neither of them in those books I mentioned are talking about capital.
Yeah, it's called fantasy. Philosophy and practicality often contradict one another. Especially in the context of right wing, American "libertarianism".
>This confirms you never read Bastiat
Bahaha. It's a fallacy... it's called appeal to nature, dummy. Natural =/= right. Subsidizing it with God just makes it even sillier.
>Sounds more like colonialism brought us those, not classical liberalism.
Sounds like you don't know who classical liberals and capitalist origins. Capitalism has always required a strong central government to prop it up.
And I'm the retarded on, rofl. Even Murray Rothbard admits anarchism boils down to socialism, and how "anarcho"-capitalists can't apply the label. It's a mockery of philosophy and ideology.
>>55536316
>trying this hard
>>55537818
this desu senpai
>>55538754
Which is why I don't mind who wins out of those two. Rand would be the closest to my choice, but we've got a war on the horizon. We're not going to be able to side step it without hardcore isolationism and butchering the gibs me dats and switching from the petrodollar
>>55537202
>Republicans and Liberals
Since when were these opposites?
>>55538919
Reminds me of the game Fable. lol.
>>55537818
Needs to be updated with Rubio instead of Yeb!
>>55538919
>thinks he's /pol/
>>55538826
More like "5'10"
As in barely taller than the toddler in this photo
>>55538290
He already crashed a Democrat forum and called Hillary a neocon on her own turf
youtube.com/watch?v=oQSvtlZthQg
>>55536115
It's funny because Bernie is only a socialism in name and Paul is only a capitalism in name.
>>55536115
this is what's gonna happen
>Rand makes good points that may be hard to hear
>Sanders says everything everyone wants to hear
>Sanders "wins"
>>55538977
Honestly though, how are 4chan and leddit not rivals?
Sanders honestly will considering Rand relies on dirty tricks and is a tryhard
>>55536115
>Rand Pauls last desperate bid to be relevant begore dropping out
>rand doing all he can for attention, for that FREE MOOLAH, free donations
>complains about socialism whilst living off the tax payer
>can only get 5% nationally, so runs around doing anything he can to get attention like a little child
>when no one wants to debate a nobody, randlets call "victory"
>>55539078
He's gonna be ahead of Kasich and Bush within the next couple of polls, and if he can outlast them, he'll stick around til the end. Especially since his seat in Kentucky has been pretty solidly confirmed with Bevin's election.
>>55536115
actually interested to see that
>>55539137
Rand still does opthalmology when out of session. He's not a career politician, and he's the candidate fighting hardest to put term limits in place, which would best fight back against people spending their entire life on the government teat.
>>55539172
He proposed it a while back. Bernie's never gonna respond.
>>55539152
And the fact that he's spent have of his POTUS earnings on his reelection campaign.
trump>paul>power gap power gap rubio>cruz
rest into the trash.
>>55539215
Other way around, isn't it? I can never remember which one is illegal and which isn't.
>>55537864
>caring about what the candidate thinks of Israel
might I suggest voting for Bernie then?
>Rand can't even get
his numbers have been going up ever since you people started talking shit about them.
>Rand just wants attention
he's running for president
>Rand is a welfare slut
He's a public servant who is trying to do what he believes is the right thing. Even the most extreme of fiscal conservatives believe that his tax payer funded job is as vital as the military and police.
You're an idiot.
r/politics loves this because they think Bernie will wipe the floor with him.
>>55539200
>and he's the candidate fighting hardest to put term limits in place, which would best fight back against people spending their entire life on the government teat.
So was his father... but he flip-flopped on that too. Tell me when he doesn't run again, will ya?
>>55539005
under-rated post
>>55539293
Way too many non-specific pronouns. Try repeating that, but with coherence in mind.
>>55539328
>i want perfection on 4chan
Go away aspie.
His father also said the same thing and changed his mind... it's completely meaningless when they do nothing about. You can talk all day about it... but it's results I care about.
And what results has Rand brought us? Nothing. But you applaud him for talking for some reason. I hear better arguments/rhetoric on 4chan... but I don't feel the urge to suck their cock and hand out money to them.
>>55539473
>tfw when I've already donated several times to his campaign
If I was richer I'd give more. Nice to see based Rand is back
>>55539582
Oops. didn't mean to quote
>>55536115
that would be actually good for both of them
>>55539473
Bro, I couldn't understand your ramblings. I'm not looking for perfection, just basic communication standards.
But beyond that, I don't really see why Ron changing his mind on term limits would suggest Rand will. Not to mention that Rand is one of the few Senators who really sticks by his points and tries to push legislation through that will get it done, and strongly opposes bullshit like taking off the debt ceiling. He's got 20 co-sponsors on his Audit the Fed bill now, including Ted Cruz.
So, I guess I don't know what you actually want from a politician. I'm guessing you just post on /pol/ because /b/ is shit now.
>>55539582
Enjoy funding the endless failtrain with Randlet the Manlet.
Trump already played the based card and won. People don't do 2nd place... or 6th place when it comes to Randy poo.
>>55539599
Redpill me on Iranians anon, (if you're kikebomb, post legs instead.)
How do y'all feel about your country and political rhetoric from yours truly. :3
>>55539683
Trump's unfavorables are still too high to win the nomination. I expect him to coast in first place on the third of the Republican base that hates illegal immigration the most, and then fail out by Super Tuesday, as the rest of the base rallies around whoever is behind him at that point.
>>55539683
Trumpshill pls. Donald is indeed the best and most based candidate for 2016, but Rand is his obvious successor after his two terms. There's no need to demonize him with shit memes
>>55537235
He hasn't been calling himself a pure socialist. He's been calling himself a social democrat and a democratic socialist. Remember that the word socialist isn't that specific. We just assume that socialist = Marxist because that's the most common form of socialism
>>55539739
They don't care about unfavorability anymore because if they did then Hillary won't be the democrat nomination considering she is the least favorable of the democrat nominations
rand would win, but bernie is probably clever enough to make it appear he lost, at least to very uninformed people.
whoa! did rand actually grow some balls? where did this come from?
My only hope desu is that rand has an earpiece directly to ron, and does whatever his wise father says.
>>55539606
What so difficult about what I said?
>But beyond that, I don't really see why Ron changing his mind on term limits would suggest Rand will.
He'll say and do anything for donations. We've seen that with this election cycle and past ones.
>Not to mention that Rand is one of the few Senators who really sticks by his points and tries to push legislation through that will get it done, and strongly opposes bullshit like taking off the debt ceiling.
Gee, I wonder why I would doubt him... seeing I hear the same bullshit posturing from Ron Paul fans. I will say one thing, Paultards never deviate from their message. They're a fucking broken record.
>So, I guess I don't know what you actually want from a politician.
All you need is someone who says nice things, apparently. Let me know when Rand actually accomplishes something meaningful.
>>55539739
Randshill pls, stop. There's no need for this vendetta at this juncture. And if you think >I do it for free, see>>55539739
You over-enthusiastic kux are hurting the party.
>>55539784
He's also specifically playing to the young Socialist crowd in the same way that Rand describes himself as only Libertarian-ish, but is obviously aiming at libertarians.
>>55539827
Hillary's averaging over 50% of the vote, and her favorables are even higher. Trump is nowhere near that popular among the Republicans.
>>55539698
We live on the opposite sides of the world, our red pill is your blue pill
You don't want to take it.
>>55539897
Also my phone fucked up.
*see >>55539766
>>55538125
>Bernie
>for a planned economy
Wew lad
>>55539861
>whoa! did rand actually grow some balls? where did this come from?
RAND SPOKE UP IN A DEBATE... turns out to be wrong about China not being involved in TPP in the future.
WOW! HE'S GONNA WIN NOW! HE'S ALMOST AT 5% NATIONALLY!!!!!!@21412412
>>55538679
I fucking hope
>>55539893
To summarize, your points are:
>Rand will do anything for money
>Rand will change his mind
>Rand does nothing
None of which have any proof and the last of which actively ignores the steps he's taking in the senate. kkcool
>>55539929
Alternatively, you can fuck off with your memes and give me a tl;dr anyway, I'm honestly curious. How do you expect to counter the kike propaganda if you act obnoxiously snarky?
>>55539897
I'm not attacking Trump, or insulting him in anyway. I'm just justifying why I don't believe he will win the nomination.
>>55540017
>None of which have any proof and the last of which actively ignores the steps he's taking in the senate. kkcool
I'm asking for proof? What has he done aside from talk pretty? Simple question.
>>55538273
Underrated post
>>55537818
This picture is literal retardation. Jeb is fucking done for.
>>55540059
Fair enough. I apologize.
My only point was that the GOP is precariously close to falling into the same old trap that the Dems always set for us.
>>55539986
So did rand not challenge Bernie to a debate? I'm confused. I didn't watch the debate desu
>>55540110
>proofs?
found the Russian with an American ip.
>>55538993
>>55536115
COME
ON
>>55536290
Somewhere a little over a year ago because /pol/ was full Rand before all these Trump memers came in. We're still full Rand.
>>55540110
Sponsored 429 pieces of legislation, including bills to Audit the Fed, strengthen the sixth amendment, and temporarily gained us more freedom by filibustering the renewal of data collection laws.
>>55537795
Sanders would just decriminalise rape commited by immigrants like sweden did
>>55540216
>proofs?
>said: proof?
Randlets are still on about grammar and now seeing things....
>>55537818
>Yeb
Replace him with Rubiobama and you'd be more accurate.
>>55540110
I know it's a lot to pore through, but you can see his entire senate career here:
https://www.congress.gov/member/rand-paul/P000603
>>55539784
Didnt the social democrats have control of germany before hitler and bankrupted the place
>>55539739
I disagree, the field is so large all he needs is the dedicated quarter of the Party to support him for his campaign to vacuum up enough proportional and winner-take-all state delegates to get the nomination with only a plurality of the votes.
Even if Bush goes after him with his ~$100M Superpac, Trump can self-fund to defend himself easily and counterattack which is something all of the non-Rmoney candidates couldn't do in 2012.
He really needs Carson to fall more than anything.
>>55540297
>Sponsored 429 pieces of legislation
His dad also sponsored a shitton of legislation... 99.99% of it went in the trash.
>including bills to Audit the Fed
Most of which failed, and the one that did pass was an audit that was already going to happen. Wow, talk about doubling down... my tax dollars at work!
>and temporarily gained us more freedom by filibustering the renewal of data collection laws.
WTF? You do realize the courts are automatic as well? There are enough laws in places to keep NSA spying running fine. Let me know when he actually accomplishes something... not these desperate cries for attention that his own party doesn't support (and to appear "different").
>>55538098
Paul has a chance now!
>>55540529
His unfavorables are still consistently over 50%, and I don't know how you overcome that. People will rally against him. That 50% isn't even considering Independents who are even more likely to go against him.
>>55540534
That Audit hasn't been voted on yet, but it's likely going to pass, and inflict a lot of transparency on the Fed. I don't really know what you want out of him, though, if doing his job as a Senator doesn't convince you he's sincere. I'm back to believing that you don't actually want anything but to shitpost.
>There are enough laws in places to keep NSA spying running fine.
Oh, yeah. Definitely shitposting.
>>55537752
Second, and issues are all that matter. I will take substance over fluff any day even if it looses. If we get Hillary or Bernie it is what this soon to be shithole deserves.
>>55537756
Bullshit, he has been going and reading the bill with his staffers before it was public to anyone else.
>>55536115
>if doing his job as a Senator doesn't convince you he's sincere
What do I care about career politicians.. in the Senate no less? He begs for donations 95% of his "career", his "job".
Yeah, sorry... not interested. It's really not that difficult.
>>55540252
>Socialism is capitalism if people vote for it.
>>55540812
>Career Politician
Come on m8 you gotta try at least.
>>55538657
Absolutely
>>55540812
Rand isn't a career politician you retard.
>>55540859
Oh, please... he'll be doing the same job to his dying days... grasping for gold and other precious metals the entire way (like his father).
>>55538098
Those polls are being shilled hard.
Its gonna be like the last election, even if republicans actually go out and vote all the black people vote 2-3 times for the person they want anyway and the illegals vote too and what they are told to vote for is the democratic party.
Say it with me now, Mrs. President.
>>55538341
He is very relevant to me. He is the only candidate willing to challenge the neocons on National TV.
>>55536115
In other words, a debate about unregulated vs regulated capitalism.
Zzzzz...
>>55540975
Ron's not a politician anymore. Hasn't been for years. Rand still practices opthalmology. He has a job that he still does outside of being a Senator. Troll harder.
>>55536115
I like this idea, but Rand needs to be careful. Dealing with a shifty Jew and his retarded minions needs finesse. Rand can't use facts and the Constitution to argue points because Bernie tunes that out and will just argue feelings.
That being said, I think Rand will annihilate Bernie and this is a great move by his part. Hopefully that retard accepts the challenge.
>>55541025
All we have to pick up to win the whole thing is 40% of the hispanic vote. Guaranteed, if Rubio or Cruz isn't the nominee, VP will be a hispanic pander.
>>55541060
>Rand still practices opthalmology. He has a job that he still does outside of being a Senator.
Yeah, that's good publicity. Like any politician, they do things on the side to make them look like "one of the people". He's a fucking uppity doctor and spoiled brat. He can't even control his drunkard son who assaults flight attendants and gets arrested.
>>55540975
Why are you such an angry spastic?
>>55536115
TRUMP 2016!
>>55539003
Did you notice the announcer didn't disagree? He hooted and whoa whooo, but when pressed said "no I hear you". i wonder if he has a soul and couldn't refute Rand's very obviously true statement.
>>55536115
heartless capitalism versus brainless socialism
the world loses
kek bernie would never accept he only retarded hipsters believe his crazy socialist ideas
Rand will use logic, Bernie will use emotion. The right will see Rand as winning, the left will see Bernie as winning.
That is if the kike is brave enough to go.
>>55536115
technically paul wins (especially if you consider the chicago school infallible [it isn't]); bernie wins politically because you can't change "the pursuit of property" to the "pursuit of happiness"
>>55541216
OK, we've moved from completely baseless attacks to family attacks. I'll grant that you're trying harder, even if it doesn't mean much.
Anyway, calling continued medical practice "good publicity" is pretty preposterous, and while I can't deny that his son has had issues with the law, I don't really care, and don't know why you would.
>>55537202
Bernie wants the tax code to remain hopelessly complicated and vulnerable to lobbyists. He wants to tax the middle class at a higher rate to pay for free shit for the poor. Even if he says the higher class he's lying as they mathematically do not have the money to pay for it even with 100% wealth confiscation.
Trump wants to simplify
>>55541324
>Rand will use logic
What's logical about "anarchism" for capital? It's a mockery of philosophy and ideology. There's no practicality to it, it's all a facade.
>>55541216
Did you notice how that hole "controversy" was a non starter? Because nobody cares. Most families have a failure, it is so common there is even a name for it. Also, he continues to do the same charity work he did before he was in politics. How is that grandstanding?
>>55536654
Bernie is a social democrat, he just uses democratic socialism as a buzzword to sucker reddit and occupy fags.
>>55541456
Rand is not an anarchist. He's not even a true libertarian.
>>55541502
Notice how it was in quotations, dumbass? And it should remain in quotations for both true right wing "libertarians", or people like Randlet the Manlet. They offer nothing to the conversation, just fantasy. Nothing wrong with fantasy inherently... I love science fiction.
>>55541591
Wait, if you don't think Rand is going to propose anarchism, then what are you arguing? Do you actually know anything about Rand's policies?
>>55541025
>black people vote 2-3 times
Black people have to wait in line for hours to vote once.It takes me about ten minutes to get in and out of the polls.Of course Republicans lie about nonexistent voter fraud to justify their voter disenfranchisement schemes
>>55541669
Voter Fraud/voting IDs is a nonissue on both sides. There's not enough fraud to justify it, and requiring ID doesn't stop minorities from showing up to vote.
>>55541646
>Do you actually know anything about Rand's policies?
Yeah, they flow with the wind... like most politicians.
>>55541757
>>55538137
That was from /pol/ spamming votes.
>>55536115
Sanders, because it's a "debate" and Sanders has been a politician longer than Paul's been alive.
>>55540296
I don't remember things that way. Yes, /pol/ was pro Rand but then Rand came through as a GOP shill bumbling along. When Mr. Trump came around and nearly immediately started the make America great campaign by proposing things /pol/ recognized as important issues, immigration, 2nd amendmend rights, msm bullshit, etc. I never for a second thought Mr. Trump had a chance until he started crushing interviews and putting the media in their place by refuting political correctness. He is one of us.
>>55542416
And yet /pol/ continues to back Cruz and Rubio behind Trump despite being the most establishment GOP on stage
>>55542737
Rubio is fine except for the immigration thing
Pretty much the polar opposite of Trump
>>55536115
I'm worried that the debate will come down to
>RAND: Socialism is impractical, unsustainable, and won't work
>BERNIE: That doesn't matter, it's what the people want
I hate democracy a solid percentage of the time.
>>55536115
>who wins
[insert ideology here]
in all seriousness capitalism has been so thoroughly demonized and people have become so dependent on the government it's like trying to convince the plebs that water isn't wet
>>55537483
>Bernie Sanders getting 5% in a democratic field with 18 viable, nationally recognized candidates.
It's like him having to run against Clinton, Gore, Pelosi, Kerry, Maria Shriver, Eliot Spitzer, Feinstein, 3 different Kennedys, a couple more jews and a couple of token dindus
>>55543051
>history scares me and im afraid of new things
sorry grandpa
>>55537202
Trump wants to lower taxes and lower government spending, Bernie wants to increase taxes on everyone.
Trump can't be bought. Sanders is bought by unions.
Trump is anti immigration. Sanders wants to make all illegals legal and increase how many immigrants we take.
Trump has good doable plan(Build wall+deport illegals). Sanders wants to do impossible tasks that can't be done.
>Both are the same.
Retard detected.
>>55538387
>Webb was the last sane democrat that was also based
>He left the race and may or may not run independent
>Biden didnt run at all, killing the dream of Biden/Trump debates
>The election will be Trump or Rubio vs either an elderly socialist or an elderly authoritarian.
>>55539997
He's the only cripple I like.
>>55536115
Rand filibustered the fucking Senate.
What's Bernie done?
>>55543666
>>55543326
>new things
>new
>history is meaningless
You trollin mate?
>>55538993
>the guy in glasses giving the Heil Hitler salute
>>55538290
underrated post
>>55536220
>socialism
>at all popular in the US
Not even a bit, its one of the most demonized political stances in this country, following only to anarchy and communism and maybe fascism. Though if we are talking about what it actually is as opposed to the retarded shit americans believe, yes it probably would be one of the more popular ones.
>>55536316
> le doesn't understand socialism meme
Can socialist shills ever come up with anything new?
>>55538333
>listens to Death Grips.
Lel holy fuck.
>>55542416
>I don't remember things that way
Eveyrone on /pol/ sucked on Paul's dick after the 11 hour Filibuster against the reauthorization of some NSA spying bill. Everyone loved him until Trump came along
FUCK SANDERS HE IS A FRAUD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwsG1lRrPpc
>>55538265
>Someone who thinks Bernie has sound philosophy exhibited in his speeches.
>Muh slavery can't exist without religion.
FUCKING KEK.
>>55538826
doubt it, he was barely taller than Hillary at the debate
>>55538125
Bernie was a huge fan of the soviet system of communism
He spent his honeymoon in the USSR
rand would bury captain-cuk
>>55549326
All it took was one picture of him at the wailing wall wearing a yarmulke and it all began to unravel. This was long before Trump announced his candidacy.
Come to think of it, it was probably posted by GOP mainline shills here hundreds of times before Trump announced.
Maybe it was Trump shills prepping fertile ground.
>>55550130
Trump also lives Israel. What's the difference here?
>>55538826
He's old
People shrink as they get old.
Poor rand has no chance in twenty years
>>55536115
Pretty sure The Manlet already debated CucKie Sanders and got rekt by him.
>>55537218
>any form of right wing politics will essentially always be better than any left wing politics
Please record yourself saying that out loud and upload to vocaroo to confirm my suspicions.
>>55538333
Berniedict Sanderbatch
>>55539078
1. Not Very
2. Middle-aged
3. A younger version of Ron Paul
4. A senator from Kentucky that is running for the Republican Presidential nomination
5. Yes
>>55536115
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