Are the liberals onto something here? 80% of the Christian churches in the US are either protestant c.uck sheds or "megachurches", Catholic and Orthodox parishes make up the other 20%. None of the protestants match what the Catholic Church does for charity. Protestants, its time give up your kek sheds and theaters to the homeless.
>>55454014
Protestants don't believe in God.
>>55454061
I take it Muslims don't believe in Allah either.
>>55454014
>muh homeless
cry more bleeding-heart faggots, no one gives a shit
>waah niggers in prison aren't eating nutritious meals, this is a humanitarian crisis!
>>55454014
This type of shit pisses me off. Not the cup, I could give a shit about starc-ucks. But by somehow equating that there is somehow worldly ills are somehow the result of Christians not doing enough. I guess somehow they believe they have a point as libs believe it really is someone else's job to take care of what they see as a problem.
>>55454199
Muslims believe in God.
>>55454457
>Christians
>protestants
>>55454061
Protestantism is a mistake
>>55454457
Well said sir.
>>55454457
Worldly ills are Christian failures.
Liberals certainly aren't going to do a damn (substantive) thing about them.
>>55454595
I go to a charismatic church and most of those images describe it. Except the hate thing.
>>55454061
>praying to Mary in Latin while smoking incense.
Kek
>>55454014
homeless people don't stop being bums just because they get a place to sleep. most of the time they have serious problems (debt, psychological conditions, chronic diseases).
whoever made this should get scabies.
It's now a Protestant hate thread
>>55454657
And Jews, Muslims, Taoist, Buddhist, and the rest of the miscellaneous religions have no bearing?
Well.. actually they don't, never mind.
>>55454014
This is a retarded argument. 90% of churches are operating in the red or perilously close to it. And why just churches? Why not mosques? Jewish/Buddhist/Hindu temples?
>>55454753
I love this. So much. That pic is going all over my contact list.
>>55454457
"libtards" believe in implementing an actual social safety net.
"christians" like to talk about charity but never do much of anything except for harass gay people.
I'd rather all the homeless people that I give money to on my way to work live here than let the heretics have a place to congregate
>>55454733
And I suppose all your Christian celebrities aren't idols at all.
>>55454862
>"libtards" believe in implementing an actual social safety net.
By forcing other people to do it and not taking part themselves.
>Hey, that guy has a house! Let's force him to take in a drug addict bum!
>hurr, let's tax the rich for my social plan!
>I'll drive my 8 mile/gal jeep to the global warming conference
>>55454635
try paradise lost for protestants
still serve in white cups here, must be an american thing
>>55454014
And If liberals gave away as much of their money as they want others to, there would be no poor.
>>55454753
Hate Protestants??
>http://www.adherents.com/gov/Founding_Fathers_Religion.html
Religious Affiliation of U.S. Founding Fathers # of Founding Fathers % of Founding Fathers
Episcopalian/Anglican 88 54.7%
Presbyterian 30 18.6%
Congregationalist 27 16.8%
Quaker 7 4.3%
Dutch Reformed/German Reformed 6 3.7%
Lutheran 5 3.1%
Catholic 3 1.9%
Huguenot 3 1.9%
Unitarian 3 1.9%
Methodist 2 1.2%
Calvinist 1 0.6%
TOTAL 204
>>55454014
I don't get it. What's the problem with this cup, apart from Starbucks sucking?
>>55454595
>hating on the wbc
catholicuk pls
go follow your pope francuk
>>55455070
social services imply funding via taxes meaning everyone takes part.
nice crappy greentext "arguments" though little buddy
>>55455175
They didn't put christmasy shit on it so some groups are saying they are doing a war on christmas. And it got way more god damn attention than it should.
Seriously, that's it.
I don't get it. Modern Christmas is more of an American consumer-holiday and has branched off from Christianity. All the Christmas movies and cartoons have nothing to do with religion, just Santa and reindeer and snowmen. Why are both sides getting buttfrustrated over it?
>>55454595
If you had any argument at all, it was destroyed by the fact that you included the WBC as "protestant".
It's precious how catholics throw the word "heretic" around, meanwhile they go ahead and make up their own rules, remove parts of the Bible they don't like, pray to objects and pretend that man can forgive sins (as long as you pay up!). It's the very definition of heresy.
Protestants follow the Bible, rather than shit that was made up to give more power to the church.
>>55455295
thanks
>>55454832
>pic that doesn't even present a coherent argument, just spouts absurd lines that people falsely associate with "protestants"
>"le epic!!!! this is going all over facebook and reddit!!!"
I'd say that you're about to embarrass yourself, but I think that ship has long sailed.
>>55455162
America was England's Protestant dumping grounds. There was a reason England wanted to get rid of them. Back then the Church of England's Apostolic Succession was acknowledged by the Orthodox Church, so even though they're protestants as well, they were at least a hell of a lot closer than the rest.
Just because America was colonized by a bunch of cast off schismatics doesn't mean it should stay that way.
>>55455712
England is a protestant country. America is a puritan dumping ground
>>55454014
What the fuck do they think the Church does with all that money? Dump it in a vault? Eat caviar out of hookers assholes?
No, they run by far the largest charity operation in the world. Tens of thousands of schools, homeless shelters, and hospitals. If they actually went to mass every once in a while, or volunteered to help out in their community, they might realize that.
>>55454862
>"christians" like to talk about charity but never do much of anything except for harass gay people.
Nice citation
>>55455244
>T*rks
Kurds own the land, faggot :^)
>>55454014
There trying to push this like this is the issue, but everyone who has already decided to boycott Starbucks, IS. They think this election is about republicans getting mad over a cup
>Liberals being this stupid
P.S. if every Starbucks in America housed just 2 homeless people, we could end homelessness.
I'm supposed to be Roman Catholic but I know nothing of the differences between Catholics, Orthodox, and Protestants. Except that Protestants really dislike Catholics.
Could someone educate me?
>>55454595
>interpreting the bible in your own way is a mistake
>blindly following the other sheep who give money to the church so the Pope can sit on another golden throne is good, because after all God really likes gold.
Not even religious but whoever follows organized religious services are the most gullible and duped people on this planet. You're literally being tricked by people AND paying them. Do you honestly think if Jesus appeared suddenly he'd look at the Catholic Church and be like "Yeah guys, this is pretty awesome, like what you've done with the belief. Gold scepters? My dad will LOVE it."
>>55455777
>England
>Protestant
Not anymore there Nigel Hussein.
>>55454014
>80% of the Christian churches in the US are either protestant c.uck sheds or "megachurches"
Here in Canada every small town has a 'church street' (most are literally named Church st) and there are a least one or 2 large Catholic churches, most of the protestant churches are shit wood framed structures, I doubt even homeless niggers want to be seen near one.
>pic related, there are 4 of these side by side + 2 private catholic school on the same block where I live (small town <45 000)
>>55454531
>most important figure is mary
>"christians"
>>55456157
>said the person that supports atheism
Fact, most atheists started out as a protestkek.
>>55455070
Conservatives are so funny, it's kind of adorable.
You are against abortion, so you think there should be more children. You want lower taxes, so current programs will have to make further due with a greater demand. You don't want gay people raising children and relieving the pressure on these programs.
What fairy tale are you living in? One where you can just walk by homeless, jobless addicts with kids, because not my problem, while your town degrades into criminal squalor. Don't worry though, the good Christians of this country have been doing such a good job of alleviating these problems as Jesus taught.
I don't want to discredit the Catholic Church, which does a great job of hunger outreach and other programs, but christians have very broadly dropped the ball thus far.
Choose one: gays can raise kids, higher taxes so the state can do a better job of raising children, or depopulating the children through abortion or euthanasia. Or watch idly as your country devolves into criminal recidivism due to a wider and wider income disparity. Jesus would be thrilled I bet.
>>55456424
>said the person that supports atheism
I don't "support" and belief system. I'm also not an atheist.
IF EVERY ATHEIST TOOK IN 1 HOMLESS INTO THEIR HOUSE THERE WOULD BE NO HOMELESS
IF EVERY ATHEIST TOOK IN 1 HOMLESS INTO THEIR HOUSE THERE WOULD BE NO HOMELESS
.IF EVERY ATHEIST TOOK IN 1 HOMLESS INTO THEIR HOUSE THERE WOULD BE NO HOMELESS
>>55454595
>euro orthodox
>euro orthodox
>amerifat protestantism
fuck off burger, every religious american is cancerous. you can't compare european sects with the heresy you faggots call "christianity"
>>55456424
all prods are atheist fedoras
>>55455777
That is more accurate, yes. I did mention that back then the Church of England was a lot more "Catholic" at the time and were unlike the protestants that we've come to know today. They split from Rome but they were still considered somewhat valid by the East until they went full fag enabler. They whole point was England thought it would be shitty to have 5,000 different denominations in their country instead of one united Church. They were right.
>>55454014
Not a single Christian is actually bitching about this cup.
But everybody else is bitching about the nonexistent bitching.
>>55456568
I wonder who could be behind this
>>55456568
>Not a single Christian is actually bitching about this cup.
What about Trump, who wants to boycott Starbucks?
Or all those people posting pictures of themselves holding cups with 'Merry Christmas' written on the side?
>>55456495
But you support protestants.
And the reason Europe is falling is because protestants have no value, and believe praying to god after doing degenerate sinning will save your chink ass.
>>55456501
>protestants are good goyim, never mind that they make people more disfranchised with god
Britkuck fuck off.
>>55456568
Ah, so it's a false flag. Those conniving liberals!
>>55454014
>Joshua Feuerstein
Hmmmmm
>>55454014
>not harvesting homeless people for blood and organs
China has it together desu.
>>55456664
I support them more than I support Catholics, which still equals to a grand total of 0 support. The are many contributing reasons to Europe falling, still has nothing to do with your giant sham of a religion.
>>55456857
>a faggot chink
Nice.
>>55456517
>instead of one united Church
> full fag enabler
There is a protestant church actually called the 'United Church of Canada' where I live (actually all over the country, I think they are the 2d largest church after Catholic), they just brought in a new gay minister, announced the same day Justin 'le weedman' Trudeau was elected, coincidentally enough
>>55454595
Martin Luther was right about the Catholic church. He was also right about das Juden.
>>55456899
Is someone upset over the realization that they've been fucked over by people yet again? It's okay buddy, just try to live your life and enjoy it. If that means sending your money (God really likes money) to a dude who claims he's able to "take the place" of Jesus Christ.
How fucking naive are you fucking idiots? NOBODY can come anywhere near Jesus Christ, even implying that is heresy.
What is it with liberals wanting to take other people's shit.
>>55456916
>they just brought in a new gay minister,
Why isn't he dead?
>>55456947
He was only right on Usury and die Juden,
>>55457032
>NOBODY can come anywhere near Jesus Christ even implying that is heresy.
So does that make you a heretic?
Because I sure as fuck didn't imply that, you chink.
>>55456916
Protestants will defend this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMrvcORsDLI
>>55457111
>So does that make you a heretic? Because I sure as fuck didn't imply that, you chink.
Following and accepting that doctrine IS heresy and makes you a heretic.
>>55457111
>Why isn't he dead?
Orthodox here, my priest told me the other day that a Russian Orthodox priest married two gays once and the next day the bishop had the parish deconsecrated and bulldozed to the ground, and the priest was laicized.
I saw that same statistic, but with foster children. Something tells me it's bullshit.
>>55457277
What are you, a fucking Muslim?
>>55457282
Good on them.
>>55456662
How is writing "Merry Christmas" on your cup bitching? You're trying too hard, reddit.
BTW, you should probably read what Trump actually said instead of basing your argument on the Facebook news scroll.
>>55457282
>laicized
Sounds about right, now he can go suck dick in public
>>55457386
Enjoy fire and brimstone, m8.
>>55454753
All of the devil's children hate Christians, not just you papists.
Rail away, heathen. Rail away.
Maybe if you shill hard enough for the pope, he'll let you stay in his gay bath house there near the Vatican.
>>55454061
/thread
>>55455712
Hello, piece of shit. Thank you for reminding me of God's justice in casting you into eternal damnation!
God is indeed Good!
>>55457428
>How is writing "Merry Christmas" on your cup bitching?
How is buying a coffee just to tell the barista to write 'merry christmas' on the side and parade the photos on facebook not indicative of how triggered they are over this?
>>55456498
Odd how nobody really expects anything selfless from an atheist, isn't it.
>>55457511
I'm not going to hell tho?
Maybe you missed the memo, but I'm not the one who assumed that the pope is on par with Christ.
>>55454457
>>55454014
most homeless are homeless because they choose to be. The Shelter doesnt let them drink 40's all day and shoot up heroin at night
>>55456568
Same as in the early 19th century when their atheist set started the rumor that Christians said the bible declared the world was flat.
Same attacks, same source.
>>55457610
Maybe you missed my last post but following that kind of garbage is a straight one way ticket to Hell. I don't understand what you DON'T understand. The Catholic Church only serves to make people rich through the belief of God.
People have been doing this since there was religion and people, these particular people are just really good at it.
>>55457717
>The Catholic Church only serves to make people rich through the belief of God.
Then why are spics and niggers (the most poor) Catholics?
>>55457758
Because they're unbelievably retarded wastes of life.
>>55457826
Like you?
Because the Catholic Church does more for communities.
Maybe you should stop being retarded and assuming people are on par with Christ you goddamn heretic.
>men died on beaches for my right to Bitch about a red cup
>>55457899
>men who fought for juden fought for jack shit
Nice.
I'm pretty sure most Churches already do more for their community than you do-gooder liberal faggots do.
How many real people could you help if you donated to the salvation army instead of some faggot's hurt feelings gofundme page?
>>55457895
>Because the Catholic Church does more for communities.
PR stunts so they can keep the scam going, they do it EXACTLY like companies charities. Gotta look good in the public eye and spend some of that hard earned money on a few things people would expect you to spend it on, pocket the rest.
>Maybe you should stop being retarded and assuming people are on par with Christ you goddamn heretic.
This is what the Catholic Church believes. Can you even explain WHY there needs to be a Pope?
>>55454061
>protestants don't pray to our idols, that means they don't believe in God!
Nice b8, idolator.
>>55454862
>He misgendered me! I'm being harassed!
>>55457717
The catholic church is the most evil institution on earth.
>>55458053
>PR stunts so they can keep the scam going, they do it EXACTLY like companies charities. Gotta look good in the public eye and spend some of that hard earned money on a few things people would expect you to spend it on, pocket the rest.
I think you might be retarded. Like really goddamn stupid.
>WHY there needs to be a Pope?
So that we can teach the word of our lord?
St. Peter, the first pope, was told by Christ to spread Christ teaching and have them convert.
Also he delegated the power of forgiveness from Jesus to Peter to the bishops to the priests.
>>55454014
fuck the homeless. They live on the streets becuase they don't want to bother with society's rules.
fuck them.
>>55458300
>buying into the "it's the devil" meme
Literally retarded.
>>55454014
We could move homeless into Starbucks and get the exact same result. Plus, they'd have internet access which is essential for finding employment these days.
In any event. You should probably stop telling other people what to do with their private property, you dirty gommie.
>>55454862
>"christians" like to talk about charity but never do much of anything except for harass gay people.
Keep telling yourself that cock sucker
>The Roman Catholic Church is the largest non-government provider of health care services in the world
18,000 clinics, 16,000 homes for the elderly and those with special needs, and 5,500 hospitals, with 65 percent of them located in developing countries
I personally think they should let the niggers rot, but they at least try to help, it's better than just upping some cracked out nigger welfare cheque liberal style Why do you think nearly every fucking hospital is named after a catholic saint?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_health_care
>>55458353
>I think you might be retarded. Like really goddamn stupid.
I think you might have come to the sudden realization that the Church collects for money the same way Wal-Mart collects money for it's charity foundation.
>So that we can teach the word of our lord? St. Peter, the first pope, was told by Christ to spread Christ teaching and have them convert.
So to spread Christ's teachings one must take up a title, wear a funny had, hold a gold scepter, sit on a throne and make decisions because you're the "placeholder" for Jesus? Nah man, that's some str8 up heresy.
>Also he delegated the power of forgiveness from Jesus to Peter to the bishops to the priests.
So because Jesus trusted that power to Saint Peter all following popes are granted the same power without Christ's say? Again, some more heresy.
Protestant churches tend to embrace many heretical doctrines because they lack an enforced Orthodoxy. literally any idiot can dream up his interpretation of scripture and run with it. This leads to all sorts of wonderful heresies like the Gospel of Wealth you see spouted on TV channels like the Trinity Broadcasting Network.
It also slices both ways. More "Liberal" Protestant communions do things like "interfaith prayer services" in their churches, and make lesbian adulteresses bishops.
>>55456664
You think you're better than protestants ? All that pagan shit you do, from Easter to Christmas. Not to mention the multitude of doctrines that were made up by your pedophilic papacy.
>>55458686
So that means I should donate even more money?
Cool, thanks for clearing the fact that my dollar isn't going towards Muslims.
>you're the "placeholder" for Jesus?
That's not at all what I just said.
You can't replace Jesus, you filthy fucking Heretic.
>So because Jesus trusted that power to Saint Peter all following popes are granted the same power without Christ's say?
Are you retarded?
Christ gave Peter the power of forgiveness, and let him delegate it towards his successor and towards the bottom of the hierarchy.
>>55458811
>said the russian territory
>>55458908
>Cool, thanks for clearing the fact that my dollar isn't going towards Muslims.
Your dollar IS going towards Muslims. Are you fuckin' retarded?
Learn where your money is going before you start throwing it away like that, anon.
>You can't replace Jesus, you filthy fucking Heretic.
I'm not the Pope. Email him here: [email protected]
>Christ gave Peter the power of forgiveness, and let him delegate it towards his successor and towards the bottom of the hierarchy.
Hmm, somehow I don't think that's a very ethical way of giving out powers. Here, I'll designate you with the power of invisibility. You can only use it for good and you can only pass it down to GOOD guys.
Sounds pretty fool proof, eh?
My parish is just one of the several Orthodox archdiocese in the US and our parishioners are generous enough to take care of our widows, provide for our families(our priests and deacons are married with kids), raise money for the IOCC(see vid related), give out scholarships for seminary, etc. What do protestants even do besides go work at a soup kitchen so they can post the pics on facebook?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GyjdcCGJgE
>>55454061
Keep praying to Mary, Guadalupe.
Could someone tell me how the Catholic church and Orthodox Jews are different?
>>55459129
Yet you just said it just makes the pope richer?
>I'm not the Pope
You are still implying that the Pope is on-par with Christ? Wow anon, you truly are a heretic.
>you can only use it for good and you can only pass it down to GOOD guys.
So your saying, right now, in this very thread, that Jesus, the Son of god, is fallible?
>>55459329
One follows Christ and the other doesn't?
One hates Juden and the other is Juden?
One is against banking and the other is for it?
>>55459241
>what do protestants even do besides go work at a soup kitchen so they can post the pics on facebook?
uhh, they perform marriage ceremonies for noble and courageous faggots shitlord
>>55454635
>lumping the evangitards with protestants
A bit harsh tbqh w y family
>>55454014
What kind of comparison is that?
what the fuck?
>>55456080
Protestant here
CRC to be specific, the only complaints Ive heard about Catholicism is that it hasnt separated itself far enough from what caused the reformation in the first place, penance, praying to mary, the guilt, etc. That and from what Ive experienced, Catholic services tend to not have scripture reading and interpreting as often.
Source: My dad hated my Catholic Fiance.
we are broken up now.
>>55459365
>You are still implying that the Pope is on-par with Christ? Wow anon, you truly are a heretic.
Go to sleep, anon.
>So your saying, right now, in this very thread, that Jesus, the Son of god, is fallible?
Yes, man is fallible. He might have been God, but in his form is was susceptible to everything we are/were. That's what should make him such a figure in your eyes, not that it's impossible for him to do wrong but the fact is it very possible for him to do wrong but he chooses to do the very opposite. Doing wrong and making a mistake aren't the same thing, but when we're talking about the Son of God/form of God it can be the same, I get that.
That's the #1 point you should take away from that, not that's it's impossible for him to do wrong therefore it's impossible for his followers to do wrong.
>>55459714
>Yes, man is fallible. He might have been God, but in his form is was susceptible to everything we are/were. That's what should make him such a figure in your eyes, not that it's impossible for him to do wrong but the fact is it very possible for him to do wrong but he chooses to do the very opposite. Doing wrong and making a mistake aren't the same thing, but when we're talking about the Son of God/form of God it can be the same, I get that.
So you are a heretic. Get out you goddamn degenerate.
>>55455295
No, they removed christmas designs from last year's design.
>>55459770
Can't be a heretic to a religion I don't follow.
>>55459498
You understand that any church that isn't one of the Apostolic Churches(Roman Catholic, Eastern, Coptic, Oriental, Ethiopian Orthodox) is protestant by default, right? I hear this a lot from protestant churches "We're not protestants" or "We're non-denominational" "No that's not a denomination itself" blah blah blah, you're protestants, get over it.
>>55456014
Christians would own the land if Catholics didn't sack Constantinople :^)
>>55459714
>Yes, Jesus Christ is fallible
You're not a Christian.
>>55459838
You literally said Jesus was fallible.
You aren't a Christian.
>>55456373
Jesus and the original Church did not use Churches or big, fantastic structures. They preached the word on the streets.
>>55459948
You got me.
Why are people upset this time?
>>55454014
>liberals spend the past 7 years MAJORING in the minors, to the point they'll riot over a fake poop swastika, a fake threat on Twitter, and a non-existent KKK rally
>they'll literally burn whole cities down in a petulant tantrum that the justice system won't act as their personal lynch mob
>mandate anti-free speech codes and "trigger warnings" and "safe spaces", and fucking counting is a microaggression now because niggers are dumb and can't do math, so we need laws against doing math in public
>"Tee hee, stop caring about the little things so much dumb conservatives!"
My eyes are rolling so hard right now that if Pei Mei plucked them out and put them in a reactor they could power the country for ten years.
>>55459998
When we started talking I already told you I'm not religious or atheist. You ability to retain information and comprehend the things you read is absolutely fucked.
>>55454014
Churches are not zoned for residential use. You fucking moron, it wouldn't be legal without huge government involvement with churches. How does that sound to you?
>>55454862
Christian churches do a lot of charity work all over the world. Most of the hospitals in this country were founded by Christian churches. It amazes me that people actually believe that churches do literally nothing.
>>55457594
Yes, because people would certainly never TROLL, on the internet. God forbid. This is all 100% serious.
>>55460031
Fucking this.
These people whine about culturally insensitive Halloween costumes.
>>55460092
So a faggot that tries to spawn off his opinion even though he has no frame of reference should be allowed to talk about Catholics?
>>55454014
if every government building in america housed just 1 welfare family, we could end homelessness.
But were talking about how much of a problem the design of this cup is.
>why did starbucks change their old design in the first place
>i wonder
>>55454349
stfu terrorist scum
>>55456425
>Choose one: gays can raise kids, higher taxes so the state can do a better job of raising children, or depopulating the children through abortion or euthanasia.
This false dichotomy is so obvious it's embarrassing.
You ought to be embarrassed. Since you're likely not, I will feel fremdschämen on your behalf.
>>55454014
If every person who posted this image housed just 0.02 homeless people, we could end homelessness.
But we're talking about how much of a problem there is with the fact that some people think there's a problem with the design of this cup.
>>55460275
>YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT RELIGION UNLESS YOU FOLLOW RELIGION
You're as mindless as the sheep your follow in line beside. I'm not even bashing your religion, I'm bashing the way the organized part of it is run.
>>55460447
It makes you sound like a retard.
>Jesus was fallible
That's what you sound like. Get out, chink.
>>55460344
>I will be embarrassed on your behalf on your behalf
Don't use words you don't know how to use.
>>55460539
>Jesus was a man
>Man is fallible
>Jesus was fallible
As much as he was God or isn't, still doesn't deny he was man just like you are me. Again, the point of Jesus is to showcase that people are capable of doing wrong but they're also capable of not doing wrong.
Jesus WAS capable of making mistakes he CHOSE not to because that's NOT the being he is.
>>55454014
The U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development in January 2012 annual point-in-time count found that 633,782 people across America were homeless.
Hartford Institute estimates there are roughly 350,000 religious congregations in the United States. This estimate relies on the RCMS 2010 religious congregations census.
congregation =/= church but I'll still give it to you
If every person understood relativity, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
>>55460344
>false dichotomy
Tumblrite spotted
I'd consider myself of liberal belief, and I don't understand the problem with this cup.
>>55460682
...
You don't know what the fuck your talking about.
Shut up, you agnostic faggot.
>>55460344
>I will feel fremdschämen on your behalf
Skip right to the schadenfreude anon, as they get 'enriched' enmass and finally realize it is good to own a few firearms, and they brought the shitstorm on themselves
>>55460682
>still doesn't deny he was man just like you are me
Yeah, don't talk about things that you don't understand. Jesus was not just a man like you or me. He was God.
>>55460782
One person pretended to get upset about it, posted a video and now there's a huge circle jerk against that guy, and a circle jerk against the circle jerk.
>>55454014
Obviously not the US.
But it is related. The church already does enough.
>>55454014
>libnogs think the color is causing the ruckus
Why can the left only think in the most simplistic terms?
>>55454014
Why do they expect churches to take in the homeless, why not mosques or synagogues?
>>55458512
It would be the most evil institution on earth even if there weren't the devil being worshiped in it.
>>55460835
>He was God
Well if you take the book of John literally (specifically verses around 9 -to 11 I think, and maybe some stuff in Leviticus). I tend to think he was most likely a guy who happened to be around at the right time in history. I was baptised Catholic, and still go to mass, but I'm still not a true believer after 38 years
>>55461101
RACIST! ANTI-SEMITE!
>>55460790
>>55460835
>it's my way or the highway
Wow, it's almost like reading a convoluted book filled with cryptic stories, lessons and rules is open to interpretation.
But wait, you CAN'T INTERPRET THINGS IN YOUR WAY. That's heresy and a big no no to the Church :^), you have to pray to wooden idols, celebrate Pagan holidays and listen to priests and bishops intre- I mean LITERAL and DEFINITIVE answers to the bible.
Instead of the original intention of the Bible being a set of stories you can interpret into lessons on how to live your life in a meaningful and beautiful way you have to sit in a House of God (God lives in Heaven) and listen to filth come from an already untrustworthy organization.
And I'm the heretic? Get a reality check you bumbling halfwits.
>>55458766
Garbage. Absolute garbage. Catholic scum level garbage.
>>55459329
The former murders the latter at will.
>>55459714
You can't tell the Son of God from the False Prophet of Mystery Babylon.
Many Anons are lost.
You don't even have a compass.
>>55461230
Oh I see it now, you're being an idiot by accident. You don't realise that writing from your "I don't believe in God" perspective is warping the perspective of those who believe in God. You're arguing from the perspective of a Protestant but also arguing from the perspective of an atheist and it's creating a weird mix.
>>55461245
You realise Catholics are the ones who believe that the stories in the Bible were allegorical, right? Whereas Protestants largely believe them to be literal events that literally took place?
>>55461286
>The former murders the latter at will
Quite sure you meant the latter
>>55461201
How is it evil exactly?
>>55461245
No, it's
>you have to pray to wooden idols
No.
>celebrate Pagan holidays
Celebrating the resurrection of Christ isn't pagan.
>>55461405
>>55461245
Misread your shit. Thought you were referring to the stories Jesus told. Regardless, religion wouldn't be very religious if it was flexible to whatever you feel whenever you feel it.
>>55454014
>>55461405
>You realise Catholics are the ones who believe that the stories in the Bible were allegorical, right?
And these metaphors were deciphered and explained by the Church so you don't even have to read it. How nice of them to do that. Don't believe that particular explanation provided by the Church? Congratulations, you're a heretic.
>Whereas Protestants largely believe them to be literal events that literally took place?
Good for the Protestants but I couldn't give two shits about them right now.
>>55461547
>Celebrating the resurrection of Christ isn't pagan.
Celebrating the Resurrection of Christ during the Winter Solstice isn't a bit fishy in the least.
>you have to pray to wooden idols
You worship a wooden carving of a dead man on a stick.
>>55461405
>You don't realise that writing from your "I don't believe in God"
I said I'm not a true believer anon, not that I'm some rabid atheist cunt, no need to go full westboro bapist on me. I'm sure if there is a God or Gods he'll forgive me for sitting on the fence for awhile, unless he is a muslime of course
>>55461671
>Easter
>Winter Solstice
Anon what?
>You worship a wooden carving of a dead man on a stick.
I don't worship a kike on a stick, I worship the idea of that kike on a stick represents.
>>55461599
lol
>>55461599
>>55454014
THE SYMBOL OF THE DAMN COMPANY IS A PAGAN GODDESS AND THEY WANT CHRISTIANITY ON THE CUP. THIS IS WHY I LONG FOR THE OLD DAYS, WHEN REPUBLICANS WERE NOT RETARDED.
COOLIDGE I MISS U
>>55461732
Opps, I was thinking of the Birth of Christ my bad.
But come on, why bring up Easter? Christmas is a more celebrated and holy holiday. Did you not mention it because you in fact do know that the Winter Solstice was celebrated for millennia?
>>55461732
>I don't worship a kike on a stick, I worship the idea of that kike on a stick represents.
Then just maybe you're a little more intelligent than the majority of the people you sit beside in church.
>>55461671
>And these metaphors were deciphered and explained by the Church so you don't even have to read it. How nice of them to do that. Don't believe that particular explanation provided by the Church? Congratulations, you're a heretic.
You're very confused about the Catholic Church. I suggest doing some more reading on it.
>>55461693
I'm not sure what was WBC about that? I'm just saying that your posts are confusing because you're mixing up your perspectives from post to post. I'm only asking for more consistency if you aim for an informative discussion.
>>55461895
>the Winter Solstice was celebrated for millennia before Christmas*
>>55461732
>Christ
>Kike
Nigger, what?
Modern Jews aren't the same as Biblical Israelites. And you don't worship the "idea" of Christ but Christ himself.
>>55461898
>You're very confused about the Catholic Church. I suggest doing some more reading on it.
I've done my reading on it, attended church and talked to many priests about faith.
>>55461895
You're confused about the crucifix's role in the Catholic Church. It isn't worshiped and it isn't prayed to. It's a symbol and a reminder. It's a reminder of what Jesus went through to save your eternal soul. The reason people pray before it, if they feel the need to, is so that the reminder can fuel their faith. "I want to ask for forgiveness so that I don't waste what you've given me through your suffering" kind of deal.
>>55461824
Republicans have been controlled by Jew bankers since Lincoln.
>>55461895
>a more celebrated and holy holiday
It's not holy at all. It didn't have Jesus dying for our sins.
>>55461992
That's what I said.
>>55462001
Then you should do some more, because you're confused about many of the absolute fundamentals.
>>55454014
>>55461547
How is murder evil? How is extortion evil? How is pederasty evil? How is slavery evil? How is genocide evil?
>>55462028
>You're confused about the crucifix's role in the Catholic Church. It isn't worshiped and it isn't prayed to. It's a symbol and a reminder.
I know that idiot, but try explaining that to your average Roman Catholic. We are talking about the same Church that believes bread and wine literally turn into blood and flesh in your stomach, right?
>>55461422
If the Pope's '36 Concordat to Hitler legitimizing the Nazi party, if the pope's encouragement to Hitler to kill all the "Christkillers", and if the pope's handpicked dictator, Mussolini, don't mean anything to you, maybe google "Vatican Ratlines" to see just how evil the Vatican is.
>>55462112
It's not murder if it's against the enemy of Christ
They don't extort
Nobody supports those faggots
>slavery
>bad
>killing shitskins and kikes
>bad
Fuck off, Jude.
Why is it the only people I hear bitching about this coffee cup are leftists upset that Christians are upset about this coffee cup? They are the only ones making hay out of this! Where's the league of Christian Activists who started thus campaign against the coffer cup, or is this just leftist marketing campaign?
>>55461824
That also cracks me up. There's a pagan fish goddess on the cup, but that's apparently okay with people decrying the lack of Saturnalia paraphernalia on it as well.
>>55462155
This isn't the protestant church you jackass.
>>55461945
It's always been Saturnalia.
Jesus was not born in the dead of winter. By my studies, He was born in the second week of September.
>>55462036
Just let me have Coolidge man. And Im not really sure what you mean because "Republicans have been controlled by Jews since Lincoln" is basically saying that Republicans have always been controlled by Jews. So do you mean the ideas of conservatives, the modern GOP, or are you including the previous party to the Republicans, which would be the whigs?
>>55462028
Actually, you're confused. They have Jesus dead on the cross because that's how they see Him.
Dead.
Hence the need to appeal to the "vicar of Christ", the false prophet pope.
>FREEDOM OF RELIGION
>BUT NOT ANY RELIGION EXCEPT MINE
>>55460230
>>55462274
>Things papists tell themselves to not realize how evil their church actually is.
>>55462331
>>55462331
What are you talking about?
>>55454014
seeing how easily prodkeks surrendered their countries like Sweden to 3rd worlders I don't think this is too big of an ask
>>55462466
>said the Jude.
>>55462513
About how your spewing shit and assuming that Catholics = Protestants?
Starbucks:
-Run by a Jew.
-Starbucks CEO: If You are Anti-Gay Marriage, ‘You can Sell Your Shares’.
-Created and handed out a ‘Race Relations Reality Check’ Quiz to customers.
-Started the 'Race together' initiative.
-Attacked the second amendment.
-Attacks Christmas.
>>55462567
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transubstantiation
>>554615
kek
>>55462656
And?
Recreating the last supper and repeating what he said bad?
>>55454014
Can someone please tell me what's wrong with this cup and why does it have my flag's fucking colors?
Who gives a flying fuck about Starbucks? Only faggots who can't brew a decent cuppa and dumb fuck airhead bimbos patronize them.
>>55462776
>this bread produced, packaged and shipped from some warehouse and wine made is some shitty winery literally turns into the Flesh and Blood of Christ, effectively making all Catholics self-identified cannibals.
Can't remember what he might have said about it during the last supper, but if it was anything other than "Guys, if you eat this it turns into my flesh and blood." it's a bunch of bullshit you were also tricked into doing.
>>55462604
Wow, now I will never ever step foot in that kike ran kek loving place.
>>55454014
>liberals suggesting drug addicts and felons be housed in someone else's property
>not offering to house them in their own homes
Liberals gonna lib.
Libs are so generous paying bills out of other people's wallets like that,. :^)
>>55462878
Well, early christians were persecuted exactly for cannibalism.
Romans rightly saw that they're a doomsday cult of blood-drinking cannibals.
This would make catholics the actual christians and protestants a shootoff that decided to change the bible story into some fanfiction.
>>55462604
>If You are Anti-Gay Marriage, ‘You can Sell Your Shares’.
Fucking CEO's taking the company full on political, is this faggot trying to be the next Steve Jobs? Bill Gates, Larry Ellison and pretty much every other rich as fuck CEO just concentrated on making share price go up, how the hell has the company's directing board not deep-6'ed this guy?
http://www.tpnn.com/2015/03/30/starbucks-ceo-if-you-are-anti-gay-marriage-you-can-sell-your-shares/
>the company’s support for gay marriage has resulted in boycotts against the company that have cost Starbucks a considerable amount of business
>>55454061
![2000px-New_England_pine_flag.svg[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/4eB4SC7.png "2000px-New_England_pine_flag.svg[1].png")
>>55462777
>implying they're your colors
Daily reminder that New England precedes the fiction of Lebanon.
>>55462999
Trips of Truth.
>>55462653
Can I fill her with whipped cream?
>>55463113
Why ruin perfectly good whipped cream?
>>55463015
He decided to put morals before business, do the right thing instead of just pandering.
Would you get mad at him if he said "If you're anti-white, you can sell your shares"?
>>55462878
>literally
Again, that's what a protestants says.
>>55463520
Again, I don't give four fucking shits about those retarded Protestants.
>>55457124
I'm Methodist and what the fuck is this stupid shit
>>55463587
And I don't give eight flying fucks about what you believe in. A protestant would go off and say "THIS IS LITERALLY THE BLOOD AND BODY OF CHRIST"
Instead of representing the body and blood of Christ.
>>55454595
>>55454635
Does anyone have the movie version?
>>55459676
>Catholic services tend to not have scripture reading and interpreting as often.
Catholic Mass has more scripture than Protestant services in my experience. It's always a reading from OT, a Pslam, and a reading from NT. And they read the CHAPTER in full and then provide no commentary on it (the homily might be tangentially related).
Protestant services usually have 1 or 2 bible verse citations in their 45 minute sermons and there's always lots of analysis, commentary, referring to the original Greek, etc.
>>55463666
I'm going straight to hell for this.
>>55463669
You follow some backwoods Catholism then buddy, because Catholics LITERALLY believe that bread and wine when put under a spell by a priest it LITERALLY turns into the blood and body of Christ.
>>55454457
you dumb bastard the reason for christianty was poverty. If christianity can't fix the problem, then what can?
>>55460682
If the lesson that you learned from Jesus is that it is possible for you to live a sinless life, you did not study the teachings of Jesus very well at all.
I do agree with you that Jesus is as much man as though He were not God, and as much God as though He were not man.
But to say He wanted you to live the life He lived is to say Jesus requires you to be like God through your own merits.
Which is the devil's gospel, not the gospel of Jesus Christ.
>>55463246
>He decided to put morals before business
Morals have no business in business, unless it drives the share prices up. Losing money based on faggot convictions is a good way to bankrupt you and your investors, CEO's should be above that. It's the principle, if saying 'all niggers should burn and GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NOW' would make money then do it, it's the guys job
>>55460782
There is no problem. Liberals said that Christians were going to have a problem with this cup because it didn't embrace Christianity in some sort of coffee like way.
>>55454595
The Luger Martini guy is rolling in his grave it its not doobies.
>>55463880
You mean he bless the wine and tells you that you are eating the representation of Christ?
>>55463880
It's not a spell by the Priest. God transforms the substances into the body and blood of Christ, as testified by Eucharistic miracles.
http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/mir/a3.html
>>55461230
Jesus said He is God in the Revelation of Jesus Christ.
Revelation 1:8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”
And in many other places.
>>55462999
Wrong again. Christians take the bible literally and seriously, and the Catholics elevate the traditions of men over the Word of God.
>>55462653
I'd give her an extra espresso shot, if you know what I mean
>>55463035
Back2England Protestcuck
>>55463669
It's LITERALLY in the Catholic Catechism that the crackers and juice TURN INTO HUMAN FLESH AND BLOOD.
>>55464040
That's not God's work.
That's the work of the devil.
The Vatican calls the devil the "real presence".
>>55464021
He's actually right on that one. You are eating Christ during Eucharist and drinking his blood. It doesn't turn the bread to actual meat and it doesn't turn the wine to actual blood, but you are eating and drinking His body and blood.
>>55462155
You're making a strawman here. The average Roman Catholic completely understands the role of the crucifix.
>>55462413
You shouldn't resort to lies and deliberate misrepresentation. If your denomination was so strong and Catholicism was so weak, you wouldn't need to do this to back yourself up.
>>55464235
Then why when I eat one of the wafers, it doesn't turn into flesh?
>>55463972
Even going by pure jewry, saying "gay marriage is amazing" to a bunch of hipsters sounds like a good idea.
>>55464184
Well, first christians weren't christians then and christianity was later created from catholicism.
>>55464350
It's taught in Catholicism that the outward appearance doesn't change. It has never been claimed otherwise.
>>55464466
I know that.
purge when
>>55464515
Then why ask the question in the first place if you already knew the answer?
>>55464350
Because that's fucking retarded, do we really have to explain to you that magic doesn't exist? How old are you?
>>55463945
Nobody has ever given me a compelling reason as to why you need the church in order to live in the Grace of God.
>>55464404
>going by pure jewry, saying "gay marriage is amazing" to a bunch of hipsters sounds like a good idea.
Yeah but they lost money, either some one in the marketing department is a moron and didn't do and research (which I do not doubt, the marketing department where I work is staffed exclusively by people with downs syndrome ) or this guy was an idiot for not taking their advice
>>55464546
Because >>55464235 is a faggot, you dumbass. Were you not paying attention to him?
>>55454014
this cup situation is upsetting for a graphic designer, cause i know that during some board meeting, there were a shit ton of good design ideas but the CEO chose this cause the Filipino kid who designed this made some bullshit backstory for his lazy design and everyone was sold by that
>>55464617
>Nobody has ever given me a compelling reason as to why you need the church in order to live in the Grace of God.
This is where faith and denominations comes in. Catholic Sacraments require the Church in most circumstances, although you are granted exceptions in exceptional situations.
>>55464722
He is, but your rhetorical question was equally dumb. What you should have asked is simply where he pulled that nonsense about Catholic teaching from.
>>55464617
>Nobody has ever given me a compelling reason as to why you need the church in order to live in the Grace of God.
Communion, confession, and a sense of order.
>>55464789
Why should I?
He's just gonna ignore it and go on a tirade about how Catholics are scum.
>>55456380
>promoting lies and rumors
You know why the Virgin Mary is the immaculate conception?......
Because its a compliment. I wouldn't bad mouth your mother now would I? Now whats the most offensive thing to God? It's sin.
So to say God's mother is sinless is a compliment...
ALSO LUTHER BELIEVED IN THE VIRGIN MARY TOO!!
TROLOLOLOLOL
And unlike God or an Angel, Mary can be a messenger without causing new sins from disobedience.
If you don't understand why or how that applies, then you aren't experience enough to talk.
>>55464868
Then you know he's not worth your time and then you stop responding.
>>55464741
It's called the marketing department, they are all fucking retards who couldn't cut it in engineering at uni, most (in my experience) are also pathological liars
>>55464812
>Communion
A byproduct of being a human being wanting to exchange experiences with others. This isn't new.
>confession
Why do you have to confess to a person? Surely with the relationship between yourself and God you and he would both know your sins. No need to confess something that is already mutually known. Confession to another human being is a result of overbearing guilt, natural human behavior. Still has nothing to do with your faith.
>sense of order
A sense of order? The fuck does that mean? A sense that everything is nice and neat in the world? How does a church provide that feeling? That's pretty subjective.
>>55454753
>>55454832
I come from a protestant household and don't even know what the 'sola scriptura' is. I think the image is bait.
>>55464973
no, you're right, they are
you can put no time in effort into something, but as long as you can convince someone about some bullshit backstory for it, they'll eat it all up
>>55454902
Nobody prays to them, idiot.
>>55465004
>This isn't new
He never said it was? You asked why the Church is needed and he gave you a reason.
>Why do you have to confess to a person?
James 5:16.
It's very much to do with the faith.
