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What could be done to raise the native European birth rate?
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What could be done to raise the native European birth rate?
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Promote unprotected sex.
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>>55262968
Remove porn, remove femenism.
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>>55262968
Hitler 2.0
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>>55262968
Remove leftists from governments, create new jobs, close the borders.
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>>55262968
shorter work week
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>>55262968
Unleash Putin.
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>>55262968
He fucked them after this photo.
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>>55262968
end immigration, increase in child subsidies, free education, invest in mechanized workforce to help pay for the elderly.
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>>55262968
Give financial aid to families with kids. It's literally that simple. People don't want to have kids because they fear that they won't be able to support him properly. Instead of paying for shitskins to come here and spawn thousands of apes, we could redirect those money towards families in need
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>>55262968
It's a lot easier to cut the brown people's birthrate.

In order to get euro whites to make babby, you'll essentially be promoting the lowest and dumbest of white people into making kids.
That's a massive problem.

Instead, cut all humanitarian relief to Africa, the middle east, etc, and let mother nature run her course.
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Be less selfish and greedy
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>>55263263
Europe is already doing that. Mehmeds are taking advantage of it much more than the europeans.
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Religious revival
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>>55263258
> increase in child subsidies

Child subsidies are already reasonably high.
Money is not an issue when it comes to getting and raising children (family in my church has five children that all grew up fine - mother is not working and dad works in a call-center)

> free education

Education is free
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>>55262968
Incentivize white births?
Universal free healthcare so europoors can afford hospital costs of having child
Universal free education so parents dont worry about schooling costs
Revoke female rights so women are dependent on men again.
Nationalist propaganda to remind whites that they face extinction in 200 years
Stabilize the region (whatever that looks like?) to end the fear of bringing children into a chaotic world.

Just off the top of the noggin
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>>55262968
The birth rates wouldn't need to rise if they stopped letting foreign invaders into their country.
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>>55263263
>>55263258
Subsidies aren't going to work at all.
People don't have kids because kids are a goddamn pain in the ass and a massive legal liability.
Niggers and spics don't care about these things as they have no decent morals.

You could offer me a million dollars a month to start a family and I'd tell you to take a hike. I'm NOT putting up with the government and legal liability of having children. Not worth it.
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>>55263383
we actually get payed to educate ourselves in Denmark
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>>55263359
I know. They could increase the aid instead of paying refugees.
More incentives = more kids
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>>55262968
pic of eurasian steppe invaders not related, right?
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>>55262968
Increase safety nets for people who have more kids than they can afford. Basically treat the native Europeans with benefits that foreigners are soaking up.
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have 10 kids
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>>55263413
No they wouldn't though the birth rates in Japan and South Korea are still dire and they don't allow much immigration at all.
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>>55263450
>a goddamn pain in the ass
that's just your opinion
>a massive legal liability.
how so?
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>>55263513
pretty much
>remove all benefits from kebab
>kebab removes itself
>spend saved money on actual humans
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>>55262968
Take gibsmedat away from the immigrants. Give it to couples who are having children.
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>>55263383
So why aren't you gonna make 5 kids? What's the issue?
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>>55262968
marry cute Russian qt pie
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>>55263513
Natives get that shit already. They don't have kids because actually being a productive, creative person requires time, and kids are a huge liability.

What part of this don't you understand? If money was the issue, people in dirt-poor shitholes wouldn't have the highest birthrates on earth.
Fact is, poverty actually makes people have more kids.
War, famine, poverty, and disease. People have kids in response to these to increase their ability to survive and get their progeny out there.

In places that offer welfare and have no war, famine, poverty, or disease, birthrates drop like a rock. Happens literally every time.
And people in these places see children for the burden and cause of misery they actually are. No one wants to be on the hook for 18 goddamn years when he's got a good life going. Especially when the government and police start snooping around as they love to do.
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>>55263450
>Subsidies aren't going to work at all.

Depends the way they are structured. A small no strings attached payment along with a voucher for a nanny to raise the kid would be ideal.

Eventually though, you will be able to buy robots that will do the child raising for you.
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>>55262968
create an aphrodisiac genetically crafted to be found disgusting by people of muslim and arab heritage but drives people of caucasian genetics wild with lust.

Then spike all water systems.
White people start bonking like crazy. Everyone else is left out.
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>>55263769
>People don't want kids because they'd rather be degenerate party-goers.
And so the jews won.
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>>55263618
>how so?
Safety measures, insurance, schooling, their fucking peers coming over to your house and getting hurt and their parents suing your ass off, "child welfare" and pedophilia investigations, etc etc.
Kids are a fucking minefield of bullshit, and I don't blame Westerners for not dealing with the little shits if they can avoid it. It's common sense.
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>>55262968
benis in bagina
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>>55263876
No. People don't want kids because their survival instinct isn't telling them to do it.
Why bother? It's nothing but fucking trouble.
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>>55262968
import women from South East asia who are willing to have multiple children and are not total sluts.
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>>55263263
yes, but wouldn't that money just go to shitskins anyway? i doubt very much a country could pass a law that only allocates money to white children.
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>>55263880
It's not just westerners that have that view though, asians do to.

The smarter a race is, the less it breeds.
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>>55263450
kids become a pain in the ass when you don't control their environment. the child-king society has made kids dumb and uncontrollable. Turn off the TV, expose the kids to nature, good values, and you will experience joy rather than legal liability.
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>>55263880
>Safety measures
Like? Do you mean special car seats? They cost like 40 euros
>insurance
Not needed in most of Europe
>schooling
Already payed by taxes
>their fucking peers coming over to your house and getting hurt and their parents suing your ass off
Never happens here. If kids behave like idiots it's their fault and the parents know it
>pedophilia investigations
0,001% of parents might be pedos. That's not an excuse to not have kids. Most people will never have trouble with it
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>>55263992
Only the ones living in the first world(Japan, SoKo, Singapore, Hong Kong).
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>>55262968

This >>55263056

Also parents pay no national income tax (only local/state) for the first five years of their first child's life. White people put off having kids in order to have greater financial stability with which to ensure that their children have pleasant lives later. We need to decrease the barrier of them having good finances so they start having kids earlier. This is also a public health issue as well since miscarriages and risks of birth defects like autism increase with age.

As it stands, white people are funding the reproduction of other people with their taxes while they try to scrounge together enough money to provide a stable future for their own unborn kids.
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If women weren't so ridiculous as persons men would consider it
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No one actually needs incentives to have children, if incentives did anything to birthrates the poorest areas of the world would have the smallest, not largest birthrate.

People need a sense of purpose and greater self-awareness. A purpose is provided by understanding their place in society, and having long term goals, personal and as part of the community.

Unfortunately, everyone now believes they're a special snowflake and what was good for every generation before them is now below their special status. Self sacrifice has become taboo. People seem to think that the gaping void in their lives is materialistic in nature disregarding the obvious spiritual component which they have chosen to ostracize.

Society is sick and birthrates are a symptom.
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>>55263769
lol you mean shoving your face in a device takes time. Being productive means slaving for more device time.
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>>55263966
They could not give citizenship to shitskins and just give them residency. At that point only citizens get the benefits = shitskins are out of luck
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>>55262968
Catholicism. Encourages large families. Reestablish maternity leaves, stop the lobbies pushing contraception and the hedonistic lifestyle (childless life, one child is too much work) ; put responsibilities as something lifting and noble, not as a burden. Dignify motherhood again. Abortion illegal. Promote family values, and the sense of fulfillment it brings. Less emphasis of work, so parents would be able to spend more time with their offspring.

Protestants are too wordly and selfish, one kid is okay for them.
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>>55264141
>maternity leaves

I mean extend them. More time for mothers.
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>>55262968
Problem with European middle class birthrate is kids cost too much. I have 2 kids and they cost me an arm.

I'm lucky to be French and to be gvt funded for them (I get some money and most childcare is free), because I know our German neighbor kids cost more.

Middle class don't make many kids because they want them to get good education and have them go to college. We don't want to throw away our kids in the nature when they reach 16 like poor people do. Poor people don't really care about their kids so they make many.
Also we like our comfort and we would need a bigger house to accomodate them accordingly.

So, give money to middle class to make more kids, afford bigger cars and houses, and secure their education.
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>>55263694
I won't have kids in Germany.

I will move to the US to study next spring and will stay there. (I plan on having 2-5 kids over there though)
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>>55262968
>having children
Are you people idiots?
We can't employ all the people we have right now as is.
Falling birthrate is actually alright if you strive for the automation of production processes and a long lifespan. Played right the west and parts of Asia could be living in a near moneyless society within half a decade.
But that would mean certain people having to relinquish the power and influence of said money.
Cheap immigrant labor is a stop gap measure to stall till the powers that be come up with a way to exploit the now inevitable new system.
They of course care nothing for the demographic they end up lording over in the end as long as they are in charge.
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>>55264141
Catholicism promotes centralized power structures and corruption through nepotism.
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>>55263992
For women, at least, but that may be due to feminism since the few competent ones(and the others) get a good career handed to them on a plate. There's a high reverse correlation between IQ and amount of children in women.
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>>55264189
That's not relevant to the topic of the family.
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>>55262968

Hope, of which we have none.

Cause right now I dont have anything and honestly. Who on this entire board would be cruel enough to birth children into this world?

>No work, jobs or changes unless your an aristocratic savant with a STEM-degree and daddies millions

>No government bucks anymore, only paying now.

>Political correctness has won, freedom op opinion is no longer present.

>Mediacracy has corrupted the government and turned all politicians into camera loving showboys with no actual skills or ideology.

We are truly the lost generation. Europe is just lost. With tears in my eyes I will say a final goodbye the Europe my grandparents worked and fought for. And with tears in my eyes I see them destroy it everyday.

Why are they doing this? I just dont understand it. Do they hate us? Do they just want to leech us for our money and keep us dumb? Are the immigrants a diversion tactic? Are they just spitefull and horrible people that like to watch the world burn?
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>how to increase birth rate
Self directed eugenics. Inferior men should pick the sperm of superior men when they have children.

This will improve the gene pool and increase the birth rate. women don't want to procreate with inferior men anyway.
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>>55264189
>nepotism avoidable
Naivety must be nice
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awrar
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>>55264189
it also promotes sex with little boys.
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>>55264039
>Turn off the TV, expose the kids to nature, good values, and you will experience joy rather than legal liability.
Bullshit. Kid gets injured, you get a CPS investigation for neglect/abuse. Don't let a dogooder see those tag/dodgeball marks.

>>55264052
>Like? Do you mean special car seats? They cost like 40 euros
Car seats are just the beginning.
>Not needed in most of Europe
Because your government steals money from you.
>Already payed by taxes
And it's miserable shit that constantly parents your children beyond your control.
>Never happens here. If kids behave like idiots it's their fault and the parents know it
Bullshit. You live in Europe. SOMEONE'S ass is getting nailed to a cross if a child so much as gets a splinter.
>0,001% of parents might be pedos. That's not an excuse to not have kids. Most people will never have trouble with it
Doesn't stop the government from investigating, unless you're muslim.
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Maybe if women weren't so bat shit crazy men would consider
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Nothing. Deport all non-white people instead.
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>>55263919
Paternal/Maternal instincts I guess.
In terms of investment, it's someone who gives you extra retirement funds.
>>55263880
Euro-style welfare state removes most of that shit.
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>>55264254
>disillusionment
>conflict
>hope(for the victors)
We just need one more good world war.
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>>55264290
I think you are just being paranoid. I know plenty of people with kids and they never had a problem. They aren't even super rich, mind you, just middle class.
The only thing is, you have less time for yourself, which in our modern individualistic and hedonistic society is seen as an anathema
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End the cancer called "feminism" that the USA created
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>>55264290
>Bullshit. Kid gets injured, you get a CPS investigation for neglect/abuse. Don't let a dogooder see those tag/dodgeball marks.

that may again be societal, the fact that no one knows their neighbors or people in their community means we are always suspicious.
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>>55264254
och wat een zielepiet toch.

Je hebt geen idee hoe erbarmelijk het in de een groot deel van de wereld is en hoe goed mensen het zeker in Nederland hebben.

Je zou je de oren van je hoofd moeten schamen
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>>55263056
Remove porn?????????????????????????


What????????the?????????fuck????????

How about we just remove you??????
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>>55263694
Because why would you want kids? I'm gonna tell you why muslims have so much more kids than white people: the quran forbids muslims from having sex for pleasure, only sex for procreation is allowed. That's it, that's the fucking reason. Muslims have so much kids because their skydaddy prevents them from using condoms.
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most of europe is overpopulated as fuck,shut all borders, kill niggers and verything will be daijoubu
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>>55263383
>>55263258
>>55263450
Subsidies as of now are not working since they provide a much higher incentive for poor freeriders to reproduce than for first class citizens.
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>>55263056
>remove porn
this is actually what the feminists want you retard, but a kek like you wouldn't know
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>>55262968
You could turn of the computer and go out and get your self a qt gf
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>>55264482
God is real though
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>>55264572
He isn't, it's a man-made concept from centuries ago, just like odin and zeus
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>>55263483

you actually pay for it with your 50% income tax+25% VAT+180% car taxes+highest electricity prices in the world.
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>>55264254
I agree nederbro
USA is even worse for kids

why condemn them to a life of wage slavery? there is almost no social safety net here
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>>55264640
Scientifically prove he doesn't exist. Checkmate atheist
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Kids are alot of work and I'm sure alot of guys including myself don't want the responsibility. It's not like we need to add more to the population. Everything is fine for now. When it becomes an issue many many generations from now they can fuck like rabbits and have huge families once again.

It's just us fitting in to the natural order. Nothing unusual is happening it's just not required and do to the lack of pressure it's not pushing us to drive to that goal.
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>>55262968
The problem that reduces fertilty is that you don't need children of your own to expect a retirement.
In the past, if you didn't had children, you simply didn't have anyne to take care of you, both finacially and physically. Modern society disconnected children from retirement, because people with few kids wanted to have the benefits of having many children (retire earlier and in better conditions) while avoiding the privations and responsibility of raising kids, effectively socializing retirement money.
Look at it this way: in the past, children send money to their elderly parents. Now, they send money to the government so the government distributes it among the qualifing elderly people.
What is this called if not communism?
Obviously the people who took the responsibility of raising many children (and doing it successfully) would be in a much better position than those who didn't. Sure, the people who didn't raised kids would have a short advantage on their prductive life, by not having to dedicate as much time to their family, but a huge disadvantage once the old age kicked in and couldn't work as much or as efficiently anymore. Now, we can't have that, can we, goyim? The governent entering the picture effectively removed all incentives to have children.
Now most people have noticed the huge loophole in the system, and taking advantage of it: Why must be **I** who raises the children when I can just milk th system for the work of other people's children?
Of course, the slutionfor thisis simple, remove state funded retirement. Then people will be confroned face first with the age old question: do I raise hildren, or do I starve to death in my elder years?
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why is is in america tswift is a jewel and in other countries females on the norm look that good.
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>>55264685
>there are hundreds of gods but mine is the REAL one!
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>>55264705
Except that past the age of 35 you are no longer fertile and/or your kids are born autistic. You really have no clue about this do you?
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>>55264170
>>55264512
What's wrong with having kids in Europe?
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>>55264795
The price of land relative to the price of labor.
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>>55264448
>erbarmelijk
Wtf nigga? Don't use google transalate ever again
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>>55264779
You claimed she doesn't exist and the burden of proof is the one on the person who is making a claim. Once again atheists easily BTFO
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>>55264640
>mfw i worship odin

fuck you and your fedora
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>>55264448
Lekker op familievakantie met paps en mams?

>>55264349
We cant have another war. The PC-regime has programmed the masses culturally to a point where war is unthinkable. Plus, why would I fight other countries? I dont want war. I have no issues with other sovereign states and civilians. They can do whatever the fuck they want within their lines in the sand.

I have issues with the complete lack of European democracy and any interest for the real lives of real people by a political class that is behaving far more elitist and aristocratic.

We are not at war with each other, we are at war with our political class.

Meanwhile Norway and Switzerland are doing FUCKING amazing, while they are not a part of this fucking PC-EU-regime, they still have sovereignty and most importantly: a strong democratic tradition.

>>55264448

govkek will be the first to go.
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>>55264873
kek.. alsof ik google nodig heb gast ;)
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>>55264764
I feel stupid. I've heard that being the reason you can't get Africans to stop shitting out kids by the dozens, but I've never once thought of it being a valid solution.

Thanks, bro.
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>>55264884
>the burden of proof is the one on the person who is making a claim.
that's your opinion, but there is no reason for me to try and explain it since a lot of people have tried before me and all of them have failed to reached your insect brains
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>>55262968
Remove women from the workplace. Wages and birth rates will increase accordingly.
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Fucking skanks trying to take every chance to take a picture with Putin to make themselves look better on social media. Even Putin sees right through their bullshit.
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>>55264913
Just more evidence that atheism leads to autism which in turn leads to extremely low fertility rates.
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If you look at birth rates by demographic, it is mostly linked to the rate of education to women.

If a woman has absolutely no career options, then the only thing she can contribute is having children. Which is why Muslim countries have a devastatingly high birth rate.

Cutting off education to half the world's white population isn't going to work either.

The only way you can do this is to make the choice between being a mother and having a career m00t. Daycare would need to be a very viable option, currently it is not.
The reason being is that there isn't sufficient contact with an adult. What I would do is therefore enlist the elderly who have had (successful) children and get them to increase the adult contact in daycare, given the state of pensions in most countries, it would probably help out the elderly as well.
Of course the ideal solution is for grandparents to look after small kids, but this cannot really work for everyone.
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>>55265008
Not an opinion it is a fact you still have to prove it since you made that claim and since you know it's true you are trying to revert to ad hominem
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>>55264795
> Europe

I don't have anything in particular against Europe, I only despise Germany.
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>>55265015
>>55265070
Letting wymyn into the workplace was the biggest mistake in history
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>>55265086
Nope, still an opinion
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>>55265070
Women need to be taxed hardcore and the government should subsidize white children daycare. ISSUE SOLVED.
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>>55264970
>Plus, why would I fight other countries?
>I have no issues with other sovereign states and civilians
Because it would not be against other countries, and it would be for sovereign states and civilians.

Though there's no guarantee it would stop there, when the manpower and will is in place, with negligible(for a war) damages to the homeland there's no telling if people will stop at just treating the symptoms.
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>>55262968
Why not just take the racist white Americans back. They breed at absurdly high levels and will help you develop a real white supremacist culture again.

We are going to find a way to get them to leave and then you can have them back.
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When white countries swing back to the right, the cornerstones of manhood will return to people's lives, and women will actually want to breed with men, rather than keep the skinny faggoty liberal males as indefinite boyfriends.

Women WANT to be led, modern men dont have the balls to lead their women, they just enable them endlessly.
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>>55265099
It was OK when women got a choice of being a teacher or a nurse. The career woman is cancer to society when it comes to childbearing though.
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>>55262968
Create a baby factory in North Korea.
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>>55264480
>>>/b/
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>>55265046
TIPS FEDORA
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but seriously mate, what is the disfunction with atheists, you dont wanna believe in a god i mean fuck, dont, but you take it upon yourself to be niggers all over the internet, because god cant exist and everyone who believes in one/some is evil/bad/dumb etc, I mean fuck, you havent proven that and are unable to, yet you believe it otherwise? you're the fanatical religious nut here mate
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>>55265293
It has nothing to do with God even. The fact that on Sundays we choose to stay at home instead of going to church and seeing people, talking to them, singing with them, etc. Instead, we stay home and post on r/atheism. The issue here is that we are becoming socially retarded.
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>>55265099
I wouldn't say it was that bad, they do after all bring in a different, if not warped perspective of the world. And woman have always been in the workplace, the problem is that their careers are that much more important now.
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>>55265433

see >>55265224
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>>55262968
Never. White men are smart. The smartest of us have long realized society and women are fucked and just go to work and come home and get drunk.

We may be a lot of things but we'll never be goy'd into the married life.
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>>55265522
Making it easy on the Jews lad. They don't even have to flood us with refugees.
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>>55265099
no. giving women the right to vote was the biggest mistake. worst mistake ever.
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Nothing.
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>>55262968
Remove forced insurances and their creators: germany.
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>>55265567
They'll always win in the end anyway. You can't stop the inevitable. All societies fall and we're in the tail end of ours.

At least if whites die out, everyone else will sooner rather than later.
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>>55265583
There is literally nothing wrong with women. Gender is a social construct anyways it doesn't exist we are all people here
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>>55265674
Your mentality is fucking CANCER. What's next? We will all die anyways so who gives a fuck?
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>>55265674
>I think I know shit because I did GSCE History
There's nothing which says white nations (and subsequently the people) must fall, anywhere, with a system of countries so large it should in fact be impossible.
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>>55265893
Get assmad all you want but it's true. Delusions of grandeur to think you stop the cycle.
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>>55264970
nee. mijn vrouw komt hiervandaan. Vandaar dat ik hier woon. En ik heb hier ook mijn eigen vennootschap.

Verder heb je geen idee voor wat betreft democratie en vrijheid. Ga eens naar noem eens wat zuid Sudan . Mensen worden simpel weg op straat doorgeschoten om het hebben van een andere mening.

Ik zeg niet dat alles koek en ei is in Europa, maar alles kan 10 keer erger en we hebben het behoorlijk goed.
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>>55265985
>a briton saying this
The irony
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>>55266101
Sideways Poland please
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Look at countries with high birthrates.
Do whatever it is that they do.
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Eh slavery of women is a good counter
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>>55262968

Opportunity. People dont have families because they cannot afford them. Which is just the result of capitalism getting more out of the labor force than is good for us. Old people are staying on the job and jobs are going to poorer cheaper countries. Both ways young people get fucked and dont reproduce as a result.
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>>55262968

The irony is that, generally, the smarter and more successful a society is, the less they'll have kids: notice how white countries and japan have the lowest birth rates. Whereas poor countries have tons of kids. It almost seems counterintuitive, unless you figure they have lots of kids to help with the work and stuff
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>>55263144
This, if whites feel disenfranchized they'll just live comfortable and die childless. Thats whats occuring now.
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>>55262968
>What could be done to raise the native European birth rate?
I've been thinking about this quite a bit recently, actually, and I've come to the conclusion that the answer is the same as it is for every other problem faced by western society.

Go after the kids.

If the left have infiltrated the universities and a lot of the high schools, then we just have to get kids before they come into contact with this anti-white brainwashing and counter-indoctrinate them. Education is more effective the younger they are anyway. All it takes is finding another two or three adults who understand the problem and are willing to work for a solution - preferably including at least one woman, so you can start a youth club without being suspected of pedophilia.

When you have the youth club up and running, you don't just start lecturing the children on the need to preserve the white race. You just drop hints, then draw up an assessment of each of the attending children identifying which ones are most responsive to your ideas. Then you start separating these children from the main group - say you're getting too big and need to run two groups on separate days - then start educating the second group. Then you start moving children one by one from the first group into the second, so that the children who weren't particularly responsive end up one the only child in the group who doesn't share the ideas you've been pushing. Most likely, on finding themselves the odd one out, they will begin to modify their positions. The key at this point is to get the children to do most of the educating for you - it'll work better coming from them, and if you do it right you can set things up so that it practically runs itself. All the time you're doing this, you need to be scouting for more adults. Then, when you have a core community of like-minded individuals, you start expanding.

As for what the end goal should be with regards to increasing the birth rate?
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>>55267163

You should be aiming to get 12 or 13 year old girls into relationships with men in their early twenties. Find as many early twenties males who share your ideals as possible, and arrange social events where the girls can meet them. Then simply let nature take its course (with perhaps a little ideological prodding to get them over the traditional taboos). Then hopefully you will find that 14-15 year old girls, girls at the beginning of their prime fertility years, start having babies with men who have left collage and are starting to get jobs (as opposed to other teenagers who are completely unequipped to raise children either emotionally or financially). This will have the added bonus of giving these men an incentive to work hard at their careers instead of checking out of society and ending up neet.

These young mothers should be able to continue their education alongside raising children - it's a hell of a lot easier to get flexible schooling than flexible employment. It should be fairly reasonable for most mothers to have four children between 14 and 21, ensuring a population that doubles every generation, and then complete their education and enter the workforce only a little after their male peers. Girls from wealthier backgrounds who don't need the extra income from working should be able (and encouraged) to simply continue having children for as long as they're physically able - eight children isn't unreasonable. As well as producing extra population growth this will begin to have a eugenic effect, where the high-ability population increases at double the average (all without doing anything so counter productive as sterilising healthy women).
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>>55263056
Choose one. It's feminists who want to ban porn because it's evil and sexist.
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>>55262968
>>55262968
Rape
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>>55267364

Alongside the educational youth clubs it's essential to set up proper support structures - mothers groups, nurseries etc - so that when girls find out that having babies is really hard work they have people around them to take some of the burden and keep them on track.

(All of this, of course, should simply be one facet of the youth groups' educational efforts - in general they should be constantly working to produce happy, well adjusted adolescents who have been ideologically primed to value education and hard work. And the youth groups in turn should be only one part of a larger structure of groups supporting the spread of the new ideal.)

Women especially are social creatures, and as long as you keep them in a supportive group of like-minded individuals I'm sure that they will turn out to be capable of going far beyond them limits we expect them to have at the moment.

And the beauty of all this is that once they've had their first child, the girls will be as invested in the system as any of the group pushing the new paradigm. Letting them listen to the hate coming from the old order over their beautiful little babies will be better than any propaganda you can come up with.
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>>55265090
Germany seems like a pretty nice place IMO. At least you don't live in a borderline 3rd world shithole.
Although I am like you and I'd like to go to Clapistan
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>>55265232
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>>55265232
not actually a bad idea. Not North Korea, but some other third world country. You can arrange an IVF-made baby for as little as $10000 in places like India. Mass produce white babies in the third world, then have them adopted by agents in a country with generous child benefits and state funded nurseries. Essentially, to win you have to game the system better than the muslims. Bleed the welfare state as heavily as possible so that there's literally nothing left to hand over to the non-whites.
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>>55262968
Rape.
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>>55262968
Step 1. Get off the fucking internet.
Step 2. Get married.
Step 3. Start a family.

You are your only problem.
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Women need to want to make babies, men too, and we move from there.
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>>55262968
Lolis
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>>55269520
Step 4. Get divorced
Step 5. Pay 35k$ a month
Step 6. The rope
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>>55264170
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>>55264079
>implying niggers won't exploit this with an infinite number of bastard children
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ban women from entering the workforce
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>>55265015

Remove women from education, except maybe some basic education.
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>>55262968
with how many benefits that are afforded to citizens who have children, i'm surprised more europeans don't breed.

(1) universal healthcare: having a child in a hospital is expensive, yet it's covered in euro countries.

(2) parental leave: in some euro countries, either the husband or wife can take time away from work to care for the newborn.

(3) childcare is subsidized in most euro countries.

(4) college is nearly free in most euro countries, and even subsidies are given to students in some countries. (parents aren't taking out loans to help their children.)

yet, in the US, none of those luxuries are afforded, and still i know people who are in debt from having children (hospital bills) who want more children.
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>>55269702

Pay 900.000$ a month. For "child support".
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>>55264110
Very good post
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>>55264110

Except that negroes have a lot of children in the third and in the first world.
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>>55269957
This is more money than Ill make in a year. What the fuck
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>>55263577

One thing has little to do with the other, save for the overall numbers of births. Japan's massive number of social issues are what is stunting birth rates, whereas in Europe, we're being outbred. If anything, opposite sides of the same coin.
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>>55262968
>What could be done to raise the native European birth rate?

Fuck moar.

>tfw euros still don't know where babies come from.
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>>55264764
maybe in asian countries, but in the US it hasn't been the case since the 1930s, and still "the greatest generation" shat out children, and so did "the baby boomers."
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>>55262968
More jobs for white men.
Less CAREERS for women.
Less minoritys.
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>>55264170

In all seriousness, I hope beyond hope that we can rationalize our immigration policies, so that poor, uneducated losers can't come, and any English-speaking, educated, healthy person with a reasonable amount of financial security and no criminal record is welcomed with open arms.

It's a baffling disgrace that people who come here to study at an American university and earn a degree are often shown the door, while we move somebody's brother-in-law to the front of the line because his sister married an American. It's like our immigration policy was written with the goal of getting the shittiest immigrants possible, when we could be taking the best.
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>>55267364
Fuck off nonce
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>>55263302
This financial aid to feed arabs and africans is destroyung the world
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>>55262968

Go around and impregnate as many white sluts as you possibly can
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>>55270160
The Baby Boomers didn't shit out children though
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>>55263383
Free education will just encourage more women to stay in universitys from the age of 18-28
Women worrying about CAREERS is ruining the white birth rate
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>>55263413
Birth rates are fine its just a excuse the jews use to let in non-whites
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>>55263949
You still need money to have access to those women
Affirmative action is killing the white mans employment opportunitys
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>>55264537
Women like guys with money
More then have the white men on pol
Cant afford a car or afford to go on dates
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>>55265015
This is the truth
Women should not be in careers just minimum wage jobs 18-24
They should be busy raiseing kids not working after the age of 24
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>>55262968
You could look at it two ways: increase European birth rate or reduce the birth rate of the invaders
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>>55265687
Niggers are not human and women dont need careers
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>>55270489
uh, maybe not in britain, but in the US there's a shitload of baby boomer offspring.
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>>55269888
Just basic education women still need to help kids with homework and stuff like that
Women dont need ten years in university
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>>55270475
I want to do that
But white sluts love getting abortions
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>>55262968

You know why people don't have kids?

1: They are fucking expensive.

2: They take your free time.

3: There are so many laws about "protecting the children" parents can't even lift a finger against them.

This is why nobody cares. They are a pain in the ass.

And why the fuck are we even supposed to have a lot of kids? Earth is overcrowded. Just because niggers breed like rats don't mean we should.
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>>55262968

You don't have to do anything. Right Wing people breed above the replacement rate. It's just that leftists are such genetic dead ends that they drag the collective average down until it looks like whites are going extinct.

It's nature's eugenics program.
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>>55262968
Ban contraception

Ban abortion for whites
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>>55263450
>You could offer me a million dollars a month to start a family and I'd tell you to take a hike
You're a fucking idiot. No, seriously, you are.
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>>55267364

>You know what happens to Europe if every woman gives birth to approx 8 children? Right, Europe is going to be a 3rd world continent in no time.
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>>55263031
Remove birth control, ban abortion
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>Get rid of immigrants.

>Modernize for automation.

>Let the birth rates fall naturally.

Less stress on the economy through overburdened welfare system and underproductive labor systems should raise the standard of living and even it all out fairly well. Like it did in Sweden before those faggots decided to open their doors.
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>>55262968
take the money you give to refugees and give it to couples who have kids
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Isn't that the child model? The one that married some rich guy? Sandra?
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>>55272314
That would just open up the flood gate of little niglets, I hope you realize
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>>55262968

You dont
We need a lower birthrate if we want to perform robotisation. The less children the less workers, as workspaces will be taken my machines, that will mean less unemployed. Our goal is to educate the young, as good as we can. After that, when things stabilise, and we have a sophisticated level of education, we then incraise the birthrate by promoting the family by social means (a bit money here, a few adds there).
Only when we begin solar and exsolar colonisation will we need to really raise the birthrate higher to give more colonists.
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>>55263918
Dis Is de only way :DDd
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>>55263263
this , amico mio.
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>>55262968
The cloning vat secret project.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGCaACqy1Ro
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I HAVE AN IDEA, LEST ALL GO ON "VACATION" TO CLAPISTAN, AND STAY THERE.

We make a huge community, we get weapons and shit. We try to get other Americans there and declare independence or something...
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>>55271640
Firstly, why is that greentext?

European birth rates have been so low for so long that if every teenager started having kids right now it would still take decades to reverse the population decline. Moreover, Europeans can easily afford an average of four children. The whole 'having lots of kids makes you third world' is a myth that's popular because Europeans are too lazy and like their lifestyle too much to make the effort and have more kids. It's a convenient excuse, nothing more.

And when the birthrate does get up to a healthy level once again, who says they all have stay in Europe? Australia, New Zealand, North America - all have population densities way below Europe. Hell, the third world has had no problem dumping its population surplus on us - let see how they like it.

>>55270336
I know you've spent your whole life being bombarded with feminist propaganda, but surely you can see that we need to raise our birthrate whatever the cost or we are going to be swamped by non-whites. It's time to stop asking ourselves how we can make the life easier for our children, and start asking how we can make better use of them. Otherwise they're not going to have lives at all.
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>>55269888
stupid women = stupid children. If universities weren't controlled by feminist ideologues it wouldn't be as much of a problem.
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>>55262968
less working hours, more free time, tax cuts for families
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>>55276541
that would raise the immigrant birth rate as well, which wouldn't do much good.
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>>55276388
>stupid women = stupid children. If universities weren't controlled by feminist ideologues it wouldn't be as much of a problem.

You got it the other way around. Universities are controlled by feminists because women are allowed to study.

No female education = No feminism.
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>>55264448
>tfw have been to these stairs in Bonifacio
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there is only one robust and significant variable correlated with high fertily: female education

illiterate women is the ones who have the most children.
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>tfw you plan on having AT LEAST 5 kids
Then I'll move to either USA, Canada or Russia (Canada/Russia because it reminds me of home)
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>>55278195
>russia
>russia
you won't survive a week in russia
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>>55278195
>effemitive western fag
>thinks he can move to Russia

toppest kek of the day

Do you think Russia is some fascist dreamland? fucking lol
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>>55269799
Notice it's the first child. A further stipulation would be that the parents are married. I'm not paying for bastards.
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>>55262968

Abolish welfare. Works like a charm.
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>>55262968
Gibe me a EU visa and I'll rape as many european qt's as I can
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>>55278917
But you are niggers too.
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>>55279207
I'll make pretty babies,I promise.
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>>55270329
Why take immigrants at all? We should educate and help our own first. University spots should be reserved for American citizens.

And fuck off with the "but Asians make good immigrants" argument. I don't want them here either. The Chinese are forming a Fifth Column on the West coast. Can't be trusted.
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Easy solution.

Use the media. Propaganda all day long. Have children. Unfortunately, the media only promotes Nordic women to fuck niggers.
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>>55262968
Push retirement up to 80 or whatever the life expectancy is then -5 years for every kid you have. allow process for up to 4 children.

>You spent your youth raising children the gov should give a little back to you in the later years of your life
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>>55262968
>raise the native European birth rate
Why? There are already too many people and unemployment is an issue in almost every country; we should focus on getting rid of shitskins instead.
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>>55279735
I like this idea
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>spread islam family ideals
>and only that

Easy birthrates
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>>55280054
Its pretty decent because that way you don't have an aging population claiming benefits hurting the economy
with this plan people will be basically working till they drop dead unless they had kids.
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>>55262968
Reduce women education. Seriously, education does lead to drop in birth rates.
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>>55280537
Yes they should get the same education up through middle school but once they get into Highschool force cooking, Cleaning and childcare classes on them as mandatory subjects.
Stupid women cant even cook these days because their mothers never taught them
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>>55271082
Then again, so do Slutty minorities
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>>55280237
>>spread islam family ideals

Marrying cousins. No, thanks.
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>>55279617
>Why take immigrants at all?

Because the good population that's here isn't reproducing fast enough, and immigration is a cost-effective way to deal with that, especially if they come educated and ready to contribute.

From the ages of 0-18, really, a child doesn't contribute that much and costs society a lot. Education costs alone are significant.

Foreigners studying at American universities and staying in the country are beneficial in multiple ways:

1. They pay a higher rate of tuition at state universities, effectively subsidizing tuition for state residents
2. They don't cost us anything in K-12 education and immediately become a contributing, tax-paying member of society

Unless the good tax-payers of this country start having a lot more children, we need immigrants to make up the difference and pay for what we've committed to. If we need immigration, why not bring in educated, self-sufficient Europeans instead of Juanita's brother who we'll have to teach English and can't contribute any more than taxes on his piddling earnings landscaping.

If you recommend closing off the country to all immigrants, we'll need to seriously reconsider every aspect of our society, because for almost a century we've been requiring it to grow.
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>>55262968
Nothing. it doesn't need raising. Europe is over populated with many areas reaching East China and India Tier.

All this birthrate horseshit is a plea by corporatism and their minion politicians to keep the pyramid scheme which is modern day society floating.

The unlimited growth philosophy of the west is collapsing and the corporatists, politicians and institutions are importing hordes of brown 80IQ people to try and prop it up in a last ditch effort to maintain what power and wealth they have for as long as humanly possible. Even if it means destroying all of western society for another decade in power/possession of that wealth.
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>>55262968
1. Abolish all forms of alimony.
2. All property in marriage must be separate. Community property in marriage should be made illegal.
3. Age of consent = age of puberty (individually tested).
4. Prostitution should be legal.
5. Free childcare.
6. Free boarding schools.
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Immigration quotas lowered by 90%.
Incentivize babymaking.
For each baby you have in the next five years, it gets free college anywhere in the country.
Or for each child you have, get free state handouts.
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>>55283103
>5. Free childcare.

No. If the childcare costs a lot of money, mothers are forced to stay at home and take care of their children. Once they are home, they will get more children.

Free childcare is what feminists spout every day.

Points 1-4 are correct.
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>>55283103
>Russia in charge of making policy...
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>>55263873
This is absolutely insane. How do we start?
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>>55262968
Incentivize making babies for married couples.
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