Western Europe - population 500 mln.
Refugees - 2 mln (3 mln max).
Less than 1%, about 0,5%
>MUH WHITE RACE IS DYING, GENOCIDE, LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU
Explain yourselves.
>this thread again
Sage it
>>55244715
look at demographic shifts and immigration rates retard
the future value of these 2 million is like 50 million
>2 million refugees max
Whites would be a minority by 2050 due to alarmingly high nigger birth rates.
>>55244801
>>55244770
But who is guilty?
>We don't want to have kids
>Migrants are guilty
Strange logic, isn't it?
>>55244715
Shill more JIDF scum
Sweden population of 10 million
Taking in 1million violent sand nignogs.
Literally inviting a army of Islamic rapists into your country.
>>55244873
>Taking in 1million
Proof?
>>55244836
if there wouldnt come no migrants we wouldnt need to have this discussion
seriously, with all the talk of robots its probably best if europe shrinks down to a healthy 150 mill inhabitants over the next few generations. These fucking illiterate migrants from the third world aren't helping much except ot leech welfare and keep taxes high therefor
>3mln max
There will probably be 2 million who've come to germany alone by the end of this year. Fuck off russia
>>55244836
of course, this poster on 4chan from the us shoul definitely be held acountable for 500 millions europeans, their culture and individual choices.
>>55244913
the official figure is 650k, so add 400k to that that dont get mentioned in any statistics and you got your million
why hasnt jouis theroux made a snarky slimy fkn
show on it then
>>55244715
the reason for denying any random stranger your countries wealth is the same reason you deny any random stranger your own families wealth:
because your kin worked for it and made it possible.
i bet if your parents died and the state simply decided to give all their money and posessions to a random smelly albanian, you would be furious. the only difference here is that we are not talking about the part of your work that directly goes to you (what you keep after taxes), but the part that gets taken from you (taxes) and is allegedly used in your interest for common goods like roads, the power grid, libraries, hospitals etc.
if people don't have the right to simply demand the part of your work that you directly keep, why would they have the right to demand the part that you indirectly use? they are both the products of your work and the work of your ancestors, not theirs.
/pol/ just can't into math and so uses ridiculous extrapolations based only on slippery slope fallacy.
>we have x thousands of immigrants
>we had x/2 thousands of immigrants few months ago
>THEREFORE NUMBER OF IMMIGRANTS MUST DOUBLE EVERY FEW MONTHS! WE ARE DOOMED! WE MUST SAVE THE WHITE RACE!
>>55245089
remember history in school and how part of every major disaster that earlier generations had to suffer through was "how could anyone not see the signs and stop it before it was too late?".
this is that exact moment.
>>55244715
Smelly, dumb, Russian scum.
Australia - ~24 million
refugees in Australia - ~50 million
>>55245200
>someone drives a car
>crashes it
>WHY DIDN'T HE SEE THE SIGNS? CARS DO CRASH, HISTORY PROVES IT!
>>55244715
EAT SHIT AND DIE OP!
>I don't have immigrants/refugees living anywhere near me so they must be exaggerating
u r dumb
>>55245305
if you want to be part of a sensible discussion, reply to the arguments posted in >>55245084
if you want to shitpost, just go to reddit.
random pic
Immigrants have little to do with the decline in our birthrates.
Immigrants are simply our replacements.
Actual interracial relationships between European natives and immigrants is still quite rare.
The problem is that we just aren't making enough white babies.
If every couple only has one child then the population halves every generation.
Its simple maths.
The problem is real, its just got very little to do with immigrants, that is a separate issue.
>>55244715
And when the doctor tells you 1% of your body is cancer cells how do you respond?
>>55244715
Ignore the Russkie, he just wants to watch west Europe burn like most of us in the East side.
difference between white people and shitskins:
white people can see into the future. we have this thing called mathematics, that helps us with this. you might want to introduce this to your own species.
white people see that this immigration doesnt work in the long term. you should also explain to your people what 'long term' means to your species.
thanks.
>>55245361
That's fucking retarded
>hurr countries are like letting someone fuck your sister
Country is an organization. People can join it and leave it.
If there's a potential for profit, it's in the country's interest to exploit it, even if it makes some of the citizens butthurt.
>White people have 1 kid on average for every 2 parents.
>durka durkas have like 10
>Pop declines
>economic and civil instability
>terrorist attacks
>crime
>rape
>culture clashing
It doesn't need to be all of fucking west europe. There are more problems than them just being a percentage. Also 1 percent, would be mean 1 out of every 100 are a durka durka. All they do is grow in number everyday as we shrink. We're thinking ahead you moron as should you. God save Sweden and Germany where they are a higher percent and growing.
>>55245449
I reply that over 40% of all of earths biomass is comprised of ants alone.
>>55244715
>less than 1%
I don't care if it's 0.0001%, there is no good reason it should be higher than zero.
Currently Germany has 5% durka durkas in it. So wrap your mind around that, and it's fucking growing.
>>55244836
>We don't want to have kids
Why have kids when you can build robots? Next Jew argument please.
>>55245613
This reminds him to give you your autism medication.
>>55244715
> Muh total percentage meme
OP you are a retard, on current numbers alone in 3 years the "migrants" will be 40% of the young German male age group, having all those men in one area will be a shitstorm.
This is not even including the people already in Germany who are not German.
Take the UK as an example:
>"le Uk is 80 odd % white!!"
But its around 70 odd % white British and 44% of Births this year were non-native.
basically OP you have no idea what you are talking about, in demography total % is almost meaningless, who is young? Who is breeding age? Who has the most young women? Who is having the children?
This is what matters.
>>55245585
your post reeks of remnants from communist indoctrination
the main difference between our points of view is that i see the state as simply a tool to construct the things everyone needs beside his personal stuff (state = tool to bring about the needs of an individual), while you see it as an autonomous structure that has its "own" agenda.
states don't have to have a fucking own agenda, they are supposed to simply ORGANIZE, as you phrased it yourself.
>people can join it and leave it.
that is one of the most arrogant, nihilistic and hateful statements i have ever read.
there are people in this country who worked here for half a century, know no other place, watched several generations live here and you simply brush that all away by comparing a state to a private golf-club? man your country must be as cold, bleak and loveless as the stereotypes paint it.
you also completely ignore the fact that politicians can be bought: your whole posts is built upon the ridiculously naive premise that whatever politicians decide must be "in the states" interest, when in fact it can and often is in the interest of other parties (banks, international firms).
>>55245655
those are official numbers. i live in a larger city and i'd say realistically at least 20% of people weren't born here.
![1446058476631[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/uGBmnh1.jpg "1446058476631[2].jpg")
"Out of about 728 million Europeans, non-indigenous populations come to some 22 to >29 million in total" and probably a lot more since governments tend to hide statistics that are deemed non-PC. Sweden alone has 1 million non-Whites,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_Europe#Non-indigenous_minorities
Hy чтo, дoвoлeн? Кpыca eбaнaя.
>>55244715
also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Vienna
a few hundred years ago, 100.000 - 300.000 young turks at vienna was a major historical event whose outcome would change the history and culture of europe forever.
now those numbers (almost all men aswell) come monthly, and you see no potential for harm at all?
yeah i know, they are not armed (yet).
>less than 1%
statistics can be misleading
Take the example of Germany: apparently there are about 11 million (native) people in Germany between the ages of 20 and 35. If half of those are men, we're talking 5.5 million German men. At the current rate, by 2016 there will be 6 million Muslim men between the ages of 20 and 35 in Germany.
>source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjlKO6hCRoc
This is NOT okay.
>>55245854
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_Europe#Non-indigenous_minorities
At least triple that, look at just Africans for Europe:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_immigration_to_Europe
The UK number is 4 years old and does not include Africans born in the UK.
So you can double that 2.8 million to something close to over 6 million or 10% of the population.
At least one in ten people in the UK will be African, far too high and more than enough to replace us, and thats just Africans.
>>55245790
>you also completely ignore the fact that politicians can be bought
Hypocrite
>there are people in this country who worked here for half a century
>people have feels for the country, therefore the country should let them buttfuck everyone else involved
>that is one of the most arrogant, nihilistic and hateful statements i have ever read.
*tips unnaturally colored hair*
>states don't have to have a fucking own agenda, they are supposed to simply ORGANIZE
Aren't you supposed to argue against what I said?
Agenda is what you clearly want from the state, not me.
>while you see it as an autonomous structure that has its "own" agenda.
Is reading comprehension in germoney really as bad as in 'murka?
>your post reeks of remnants from communist indoctrination
*tips fedora*
>>55246064
oh look, he already resorted to fedora-posting.
well in that case "giving up" would probably be wrong, as you never actually started arguing in the first place. just enforcing what i already know about people from former communist countries.
>>55246064
what kind of shit post is this?
>>55246064
>talks about reading comprehension
>confuses the statement "own agenda" with the statement "agenda".
how about reading both words, poland?
states are not supposed to have their OWN agenda, as in: they are only supposed to be a tool for organization. you spoke of "profits" that it should realize, completely misunderstanding the point of money in the first place:
profits are only meant as an incentive to build things that will meet demands. the ultimate goal of money, therefore, is to ensure that demands will be met ==> states don't need profits, that is not what they are there for.
you are highly uneducated.
>>55244715
>mfw all of the stormfags on /pol/ got rekt in one thread
>>55244836
> People respond to incentives.
You agree to this, right?
> Most people want to have children some day.
So far so good, right?
Well, if first world working class citizens aren't having babies, even if they want them, then what could cause this?
>>55246189
>you are highly uneducated.
*tips fedora*
>states don't need profits
Strawman much?
States work for people. They can't just say
>fuck it, we are going to cause major loses because some butthurt group is butthurt
at least not without propaganda to mask it up.
Or people being too retarded to notice what is going on.
The job of the state is not to circlejerk over the people, not to coddle them like children, not to give them sweets all the time. Sometimes it needs to do things that hurt, like increase taxes, break the racial purity circlejerk or stop funding a well liked but useless parasite like christian organizations.
>>55245853
yeah that's not because of them fixing statistics, it's because you live in a larger city and larger cities have more immigrants
no immigrant is going to move to nowherevilleschaft, bavaria
>>55246392
all of the things that you mention in your last sentence are made up, i have never said or implied any of those. you are obviously either strongly indoctrinated, a weak troll or incapable of actually arguing with people, as you make up / imply statements however you see them fit.
>break the racial purity circlejerk
guaranteed replies.
no point in answering to me anymore, for whatever reason you seem incapable of rational discussions.
>>55244715
>a russian kek
I bet you vote for United Russia you fucking faggot.
>>55244715
>>55246633
>you are obviously either strongly indoctrinated
>incapable of actually arguing with people, as you make up / imply statements however you see them fit.
>you seem incapable of rational discussions.
>get told
>tip all the fedoras
It's good that you are getting all the immigrants.
Maybe your retarded kind will die out faster.
>>55244801
Birthrates tends to decrease with socio-economic progresses : key is integration of the in-flow.
>>55244715
we dont want to look like moscow
>>55247008
It is not citizens, they are working here on shitty jobs about 3-4 month/year then go home. Big crowd because it is only 6 mosques on 12 mln population in Moscow.
>>55247233
over here they started out as "guest workers".
then politicians said it was obvious they were now part of the culture and weren't ever going to leave.
it's a slippery slope, and if you want to stop it, you shouldn't even accept them as guests.
>>55247233
12 mln muslims in moscow
holy shit you could fit all of tunisia in instead of them (we are 13 mln)
>>55246117
You rekt'ed that fuck
>>55246064
pathetic
