why doesn't usa end gun violence by making each bullet cost $500?
>>55218051
well america?
Good thing I reload my own.
>>55218051
>wanting to end gun violence
good goy
>>55218051
Because gunpowder can be made at home
>>55218051
>mfw people can easily make their own
>>55218051
Because that would just create a black market for ammo.
>How much for the elk sausage, sir?
>$200 per link
Not a world I want to live in
>>55218051
because all the tools and materials to make your own can be had for a much cheaper amount
>>55218051
because no one would pay that they would make their own
>>55218051
might as well try to ban bread.
keks
>price controls
>working
>>55218051
well it is 2015
>>55218051
because it's pointless, if you make guns or bullets illegal (or really expénsive or hard to get), people will find other means to kill each other
1) Blaming guns is like blaming the car for a wreck
2) Banning niggers and mexicans removes 90%+ of gun violence
3) The government literally cannot do this
4) No private business is going to do this
>>55218051
SHALL
>>55218051
Because that would be illegal. Durrr.
>>55219496
NOT
>>55218051
Because I can make bullets at my house for like 5 cents a peice.
Also fuck off, kike.
>>55220153
INFRINGE
>>55219950
How would that be illegal?
>>55220304
Is this a serious question, or are you playing the "I'm a Brit so don't understand how rights and court cases work" card?
>no reason to have speedlimits
>criminuls will still drive too fast
>i can drive fast anyways
This is basiclly the bullshit reason you give to own a gun and your cherry picked information about your "constitution"
>>55218051
Why not make kitchen knives cost $500? Let's charge $500 per gallon of water. Or how about $500,000 for a basic vehicle?
>>55220370
I have a thorough understanding of the topic. I was being rhetorical, it would clearly not be illegal to raise ammunition taxes to extreme levels.
Having speedlimits is the only reason that ppl get speed tickets, remove the speedlimits because criminals will drive too fast anyways.
>>55220425
> Water is almost free
> 2015
>>55220506
It would be a violation of the 2nd Amendment as held in DC v. Heller. A tax so burdensome as to discourage or make exercise of the Right only available to a select few is UnConstitutional.
This has been found in other Supreme Court cases related to voting (Poll Tax) and Freedom of Speech (Ink and Paper Tax).
Nobody would buy it, bullet manufacturers would out of a job and people would protest and horde ammo more than ever.
Bad enough .22 bullets went from 15 to 80 dollars for 500 rounds.
>>55220506
I doubt the supreme court would see it that way.
>>55218051
Because then I will just start making my own for a few cents each.
>>55220651
>>55220632
>>55218866
>>55218843
>>55218688
> I cant own bullets so I better become a criminal
Thats some really rational tought right here.
>>55220725
Making your own ammo has been legal for centuries dumbass. If it wasn't we would have lost the revolutionary war.
>>55220589
>It would be a violation of the 2nd Amendment as held in DC v. Heller.
Nope.
>(Poll Tax)
There is a constitutional amendment specifically prohibiting vote qualifying taxes.
You know less about this stuff than I do. There is no legal barrier to the federal government raising ammunition taxes to extreme levels.
>>55220506
Except it would, so there's that. You might want to include the actual law and our supreme court's decisions into your "thorough understanding" of the topic.
>>55220936
>You might want to include the actual law and our supreme court's decisions
What law? What decisions? It is not illegal. There is nothing there.
>>55220819
Yup. You obviously haven't read DC v Heller because they specifically address taxes designed to stifle the exercise of the 2nd Amendment. That or you're just shitposting. Doesn't matter to me, you're a faggot either way.
>>55220725
>illegal to make our own ammo
So they just sell these reloading presses here in the states for display purposes only? Dumb shit.
http://www.amazon.com/Lee-Precision-Breech-Lock-Challenger/dp/B003ISVWC6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1446947870&sr=8-3&keywords=reloading
>>55220725
>>55220725
Can Russia just invade Scandinavia?
>>55220725
Good Goy, accepting everything the government imposes you
>>55218170
Cause we have a free market economy. Someone will always make it cheaper.
>Well...
You're trying too hard and it shows
>>55218051
>no idea how bullets work
Okay, go ahead.
Its not like I can make my own or anything.
>>55220388
>the bullshit reason you give to own a gun
i own guns because i want to. thats the only reason i need in the US
Why don't non-american shut the fuck up about guns?
>>55220725
You got BTFO so hard
>>55220725
Because this guy looks like a criminal?
>>55218745
>>55221002
You're pretty obvious shitposting or retarded. You're essentially saying, "yes, I know your supreme court said you people have a right to possess arms to defend yourself, but there wouldn't be anything illegal about the government pricing that right out of reach of many people, because reasons."
You think you have a point based on poor reasoning and tortured legalese, but you don't.
there's all kinds of stuff we could do.
Anyone caught with a gun could be sent to a remote island prison camp. or maybe an alaskan work camp, for 25 years to life.
Then noone would ever dare fuck around with guns. Also any knives over 3 inches could be 20 years in prison.
Society would be so much better.
>>55218051
Won't stop niggers from stealing. Gun violence stays the same.
>>55218745
That old timer has it down perfectly.
>>55221369
>canada
>>55220725
Coming from Sweden, that doesn't mean much.
>>55218051
>why doesn't usa end gun violence by making each bullet cost $500?
I think this is a Chris Rock joke.
>>55218051
>elects tumblr to run his country
>doesn't kill himself
>>55218051
Our government has been slowly creeping in that direction for the past 5 years
Ammo has gone up in price the world over because of it
>>55221487
Doesn't mean I can't use common sense.
>>55221434
>people have a right to possess arms to defend yourself
The US constitution does not say that. It says the people have a right to keep and bear arms.
>there wouldn't be anything illegal about the government pricing that right out of reach of many people
Correct. There is no barrier to the US government taxing ammunition. People in the US are priced out of the shooting hobby already, especially poor people.
>>55221445
nice fantasy world you live in
>>55221445
>Anyone caught with a gun could be sent to a remote island prison camp.
They'll have guns; would they really go quietly?
>>55221445
They're welcome to come here, as long as they're white and bring their guns with them.
>go hunting with diyfags
>takes forever because they have to stop after every shot to pick up their casings and put them in a pouch
>>55221803
>Remote island prison camp
Of course they are.
>>55221836
wtf are you hunting so much of you can't take 3 seconds to pick up a piece of brass?
>pls say migrants
>>55220725
OP didn't say bullets were illegal c.uckstain.
>>55218745
A magic bulletsmith, damn son.
>>55220725
>we better enforce laws that directly violate the constitution.
Swedekeks, everyone.
Bullet manufactures would go ape shit. The US citizen is a bigger customer than the military or police.
>>55221634
>There is no barrier to the US government taxing ammunition
ammo is taxed. but is unconstitutional to purposefully institute a tax so high as to make it impossible for the average American to afford to exercise her right
DC vs Heller
>>55221672
Of course they wouldn't. His ideas would start another civil war/revolution.
>>55221634
>The US constitution does not say that.
I thought you had a thorough understanding of this topic. Literal quote from the SCOTUS: "The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home."
>It says the people have a right to keep and bear arms.
Do you imagine "bear" in this case refers to parading about? You're embarrassing yourself, and ignoring contextual evidence because you think pretending nothing exists but the bare words of the amendment.
>there wouldn't be anything illegal about the government pricing that right out of reach of many people
Repeating it won't make it true. According to your logic, there would be nothing illegal about requiring people to use trigger-locks on their weapons, because hey, the amendment doesn't say you can't or some shit. Guess what, you're wrong.
>There is no barrier to the US government taxing ammunition.
Again, repeating it doesn't make it true.
>People in the US are priced out of the shooting hobby already, especially poor people.
We're not talking about "the shooting hobby," we're talking about having the means to defend oneself through arms. Our supreme court says you can't just arrange for people not to be able to do so, whether through bans, gimmicks, etc.
It's not complicated.
>>55221516
Only one person in this thread...
https://youtu.be/VZrFVtmRXrw
>>55221889
Wouldn't it be immigrants? I mean I guess I could shoot white people for leaving Australia but that kind of defeats the purpose.
>>55218051
because that would be INFRINGEMENT MOTHERFUCKER.
>SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
>>55221898
>Bullet manufactures would go ape shit.
Ape shit with laughter as they swirled their brandy in the smoking room. Their inventory would be worth ten of millions overnight. They could then drip-feed it into the market, even at 1% of $500 they would make a killing.
>>55222016
>Literal quote from the SCOTUS
The US supreme court did not write the US constitution. You are autistic, stop posting.
>>55222400
>The US supreme court did not write the US constitution.
You choose to ignore the people who did, so...
>You are autistic, stop posting.
"I have a thorough understanding of this topic but have been BTFO, you're autistic REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"
Ok.
I make my own bullets; I have all the tools and equipment in my home shop and it's 100% legal. It's not difficult to do and I imagine criminals would do this if such a law were passed.
omg car violence!!
The gun violence terminology is so false,... it's violence period, that's what we are dealing with here in america, people who are violent. Thank God we have guns here to get rid of them when we need to.
>>55222400
>The US supreme court did not write the US constitution. You are autistic, stop posting.
>>55222400
>Their inventory would be worth ten of millions overnight
It would actually be worthless considering noone would be able to afford their products.
They'd go out of business overnight.
>>55218051
That's what the UK does
>>55218051
whats money to someone who is about to kill everyone they see and then themselves? #stumped
>what is a black market
>>55223311
quad dubs
>>55220819
>>It would be a violation of the 2nd Amendment as held in DC v. Heller.
>Nope.
Yes.
Good thing you are not an American lawyer.
You would lose every case.
