/pol/itical compass thread
>>55207356
People who hold more extremist views in politics are smarter on average though.
I prefer this test more honestly
>>55207178
Superior right
>>55207528
link please?
Posting the real compass, not that anti-intellectual crap.
Where do you really stand?
>>55207696
Fuck off with that lousy b8 m8.
>>55207454
I don't disagree, but they're usually smart enough to hide their power level as needed.
Honestly this test is pretty biased and does not show my political views in reality, most questions had to do with why BIG BUSINESS IS BAD
>>55207696
Nowhere, and everywhere? I approach problems case by case? Don't have strong position (well on most but not all) things, so I can change if need be? Want freedom of left but rationality and order of the right?
>>55207666
http://www.politicaltest.net/en
>>55207178
>tfw I fall in the "Ron Paul 2012 Delusion" category
>>55207696
How anarchism can be slavery?
>>55207666
http://politicaltest.net/en
Here you go Serbiabro
>>55207696
>>55207732
both of you need to open your eyes
>>55207732
For fucks sake any 2 dimensional political spectrum that tries to compare right vs. left with authoritarian vs libertarian is retarded. The Republican and democratic platform are both authoritatian. They both support surrveillance, corporate subsidies, maintain huge tax breaks and subsidies for the rich and corporations, and to a certain extent gun control.
I'm blue and proud of it.
>>55208016
>muh chakras
>>55207732
This compass is retarded. Where would you place anarcho-communism on it?
>>55207910
The 2-axis political spectrum is bullshit.
For instance, the "left libertarian" section doesn't make any sense at all. Left means you have more of a collectivist way of thinking - that society should own the means of production, etc. This is completely at odds with the fact that you CANNOT have a planned economy and social programs without a big (ie, more authoritarian) government to enforce its policies. It's completely contradictory
The people that claim to be in the bottom-left side of the spectrum, more often than not, are just DUDE WEED LMAO fags that also socialism. I'm sorry, but just because you want to legalize drugs while still wanting a massive government controlling everything doesn't make you fucking libertarian.
>>55208106
Agree
>>55207356
>>55207178
pic related
>>55208453
Ayyyy
I view myself as a nationalist conservative.
>>55207454
>people who hold extremist views are smarter
Neo-nazis and far left anarchists are some of the most stupid people I've ever had the misfortune of meeting.
>>55208453
link plz
>>55208386
I also got neo-conservative, was hoping I'd get bourgeois patriot. Oh well, it's not that bad... Is it?
For some reason when I take this test I flipflop from answering through the mindset of a powerless civilian at the mercy of a theoretical oppressive government, to being a benevolent administrator of said theoretical government.
Understandably this leads to my results being a confusing mashup of libertarian and fascist ideals.
It called me a liberal patriot. I don't even know how to respond to this.
>>55208417
Bottom-leftfags are delusional and believe a Marxist utopia can happen because we will all magically start loving each other and share everything just because
This compass is retarded
I said it once and I'll say it again
>>55209520
Hey, I got "democratic national liberal". No clue what the fuck that's supposed to be.
>>55207178
>tfw unelectable in america
satisfaction.jpg
>>55209669
It just keeps getting worse and worse
![493[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/C0CaoRH.png "493[1].png")
I'm ok with this.
>>55207356
you realize that neo-progressives are authoritarian left right? you can call them liberal all you want but that doesn't make it so
>>55207356
>/pol/itical compass
>>55207178
>>55209914
It's already been posted
>>55207836
You are a liberal patriot. 5 percent of the test participators are in the same category and 69 percent are more extremist than you.
>>55207178
r8 me lads
>>55207666
Nice satanic trips, serbiabro.
>>55207178
>ALL GLORY TO THE EMPEROR
>>55208349
In-between libertarianism and anarchism, but closer to anarchism.
>>55207836
>Solidarity has to be an obligation for all citizens.
What does this mean? Are they talking about solidarity in a nationalist or a socialist way?
i win
I'm not really sure how I feel about this.
>>55208417
Left doesn't mean you have a collectivist way of thinking, it means that they think the way we allocate resources should be more communal. The right believes that we should adhere determined set of morals to the same affect that the left want us to adhere to a set of property and resource rules.
To be quite honest, our biggest advantage lies in not everyone believing in one single ideology and having a free exchange of ideas so what does that say about what solutions we should have for problems? Principle isn't going to lead us in the right direction it is only going to close our minds to potentially better solutions. To actual be the label you are strips you of your individuality more than anything.
Oh boy oh boy
>>55207178
>>55210323
> it means that they think the way we allocate resources should be more communal.
This is impossible to do without a government imposing its will on citizens and forcing them to share/redistribute/etc. Libertarianism and leftism are mutually exclusive. The more free you get, the less communal you can be.
>>55207178
Am I good?
>>55207178
They didn't have a label for me
:(
NatSoc incoming.
I got National Liberal Democrat. How fucked am I?
>>55207732
If only there was a way to see both these scales on one image...
>>55210323
>Principle isn't going to lead us in the right direction it is only going to close our minds to potentially better solutions. To actual be the label you are strips you of your individuality more than anything.
even when that label is "someone who doesn't murder people"
got it
>>55210490
Then that means the right is just as authoritarian as the left. Did you even read what I wrote?
>>55210568
>>55210583
What site is that?
>>55210328
>http://www.politicaltest.net/en
feel the BERN
>>55209520
I got the same result too. Not too sure what it means by it.
>>55210715
I was actually talking about political ideology but good job taking my post out of context.
>>55207178
Social democrats are the master race after all
>>55210742
Get off /pol/ pls.
>>55210797
Forgot pic
>>55207836
>You are a bourgeois patriot
I will take it as compliment.
>>55209651
>>55207178
>everybody is shit
wow, how constructive
so, when will you turn 15 already?
>>55210726
the right CAN be authoritarian (see: neocons). Because you can have capitalism in an authoritarian society. But you cannot have communism/socialism/other-leftist-models without authoritarianism.
And you still haven't addressed the main issue here. how do you have communal resource allocation without a big government dictating how things are going to go down?
>>55207178
not Ayn Rand, just Milton Friedman.
>>55207528
Okay schlomo
>You are a liberal patriot. 6 percent of the test participators are in the same category and 80 percent are more extremist than you.
there should be a more global test on political views that would be out of the current system
>>55207178
Shouldn't bootlickers be more towards authoritarian?
>>55210878
How do you have social control without having a big government dictate what is right and wrong? You are asking me to define government without directly attempting to refute what I said. Saying all leftism is authoritarian is not correct without saying any ideology that advocates any amount of government intervention is authoritarian.
>>55207178
Deep purple, reporting in.
>>55211179
liberal Cosmopolitan
Who /bourgeois patriot/ here?
>>55207356
>I'm educated and rational, nobel prize winning economists aren't
r8 m8s
>You are a democratic National Liberal
Not so bad...
>>55209217
>Far left anarchists
Anarcho-communists may actually be the dumbest political ideology in existence. They're even worse than pure communists(which is very hard) and worse than straight total anarchy(which has a negative connotation but isn't just loot, rape, and pillage)
Ancoms are fucking stupid.
Western civilization is the next evolutionary stage of society for humanity.
>>55207836
This test seems different since the last time I took it
>>55211135
So you seriously don't see the contradiction? People are inherently selfish and do not think on a national level, considering their individual actions within the context of millions of people. You cannot get people to share at any other level larger than a personal level without a powerful body forcing them to.
Why am I even wasting my breath on you
>>55207528
Test is obviously fucked. Paleoconservatism is the only true way
Took the new version. A-am I still ok /pol/?
>>55211483
That's because it is. They released a new version a few days ago
Terrible test, but did it anyway.
These are my results, but since many questions and available answers are flawed, I'm not sure how accurate the results are.
>>55211870
Use this: politicaltest.net
>>55207178
Any list that describes a certain region as the "intellectual" region is bullshit.
>>55211870
>http://www.politicaltest.net/en
![765f3fac8cb021f33f967bb1d8cdf2f4[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/odTusu4.png "765f3fac8cb021f33f967bb1d8cdf2f4[1].png")
I don't even know what this means
>>55207836
>>55210296
I have no clue, I guessed in a socialist way since that is the more obvious choice.
>It would be good for the public authorities to pay their debts no longer
God I feel stupid. I assume this means not taxing the rich as high?
I'm surprised. I thought I would end up more on the authoritarian side.
>>55212531
Most sane people are liberal rather than authoritarian
>>55212501
>>55210804
Patriots unite.
>>55211237
Brother!
>>55207178
>>55207528
Took the test again, got the same thing.
>>55213032
Ayy
>>55210568
> cosmopolitan
> visionary
> anarchist
> communist
> pacifist
> ecological
Umm, here's one:
Smelly hippy faggot
Where does Trump stand? Honest answers only, please.
>>55207178
>they told there there was no such thing as libertarian fascist
>you cant be nationalistic and libertarian they said
>>55213032
>being a patriot
>not a facisct
Literally pleb tier
>pic related
>>55211743
>>55213288
wtf, all these politicans are not that econimically right
Does this make me a redditor?
>>55207178
>1984 was an instruction manual
kek
>>55207178
"90% of american politicians" what the fuck? rofl does anyone here actually believe this
>>55213329
Can we just both agree that there is nothing wrong with national pride?
>>55213315
got similar result, Hans.
>>55207528
Feels good.
>>55213583
I actually think it's weird how my results aren't more extreme.
Is it even possible to answer so you can get 100% on some value?
Liberal Patriot. Whatever that means.
Ayy lmao
Bourgeois patriot. Can anyone tell me what that means?
Not even sure how to feel about this.
>>55207178
looking for hot cubes in my area
>>55213966
Capitalist who believes in traditional values and has a strong sense of national pride.
>>55207178
I find half of those questions so ambiguous. Anyway...
>>55214021
in the libertarian cube desu (desu)
>>55208349
Anarcho-communism is a fraud.
>>55214192
take this one instead anon
>>55207836
>>55213442
Hardly. Maybe an atheist George Dubya.
http://www.openpolitics.ca/tiki-page.php?pageName=quiz-home
This is a pretty good test too guys
>>55207836
I feel as if I was lacking character.
>>55214133
Sounds great. Thanks.
>>55209618
>literally hitler
>>55208349
In the trash where it belongs.
>>55207836
I have no clue where the "anarchist" shit comes from.
>>55214283
Here's my results anon
but what's with
>trees should be able to vote
feelsokayman.exe
>>55213966
Like the French Revolution. Classical liberal but authoritarian.
>>55214803
Probably a question they throw in to make sure you're paying attention.
Tf does this shit mean
what does this even mean
>>55215051
>>55215064
holy hivemind batman
Nationalism and Traditionalism is the cure to societies ills.
>>55207356
I'm usually (-2,-2) on the grid so I like this interpretation
>>55214259
That was better, but they're both looking for one answer that you apply to everyone as if you couldn't possibly not be an egalitarian.
>>55215469
You posted a blank image anon.
You are a Neo-Conservative. 5 percent of the test participators are in the same category and 49 percent are more extremist than you.
>>55215509
So I did.
>>55207836
I'm actually okay with this result.
>>55207178
Huh. I wasn't expecting to be a progressive, but, then again, I do live in the US.
>>55216062
Stick around. You're on your way.
I'm literally a special snowflake.
>>55216112
Did I do well?
>>55216250
hello, public perception of hitler
>>55216332
Don't worry, I'll fix Germany.
>tfw have mostly boring political views
>>55216495
What's up with all the anarchy anon?
>>55207178
Hmm
Too bad dictators and monarchs gave paternalism a bad name.
'Various dictatorships/instruction manual' reporting in.
welp
>>55216621
DUDE
Neat
>tfw always in the green because half the right-wing questions are about gays and abortions and I don't give a shit
Guess I'm not very strongly in favour of anything except that I'd rather die from global warming than die from starvation.
>>55216561
I put emphasis on two questions related to government controlling media and silencing critics, that might have had something to do with it.
>>55216561
Anarchism = democracy/decentralization
>>55216832
Forgot the patriotic social democrat. Am I a cuk?
>>55207178
I'm a retard and what are these words:
>Authoritarian
>Conservative
>Libertarian
>Progressive
?
>>55216913
>communistic
Yes.
Apparently I'm almost exactly aligned with what the UK's Conservative party says.
I think it's skewed to the right.
>>55211350
I know its full tard-tier.
I'm ancap but was reading about mutualism the other day and it was reasonable as far as lefties go.
>>55217021
While you're here Australia, is this how you get dinner?
>>55217063
I'm borderline ancap. I fall more toward Agorism based on Austrian Economics moreso than pure ancapistan, but I understand it and still think it's great. Mutualism is also rather good, yes.
kek
>>55216590
huh, even the website agreed
>>55217140
>Hunting in Australia.web
Cool vid thanks. I usually hunt for roo at the supermarket but this looks cheaper.
>>55217238
>authoritarian socialist
>take ALL of my stuff, by force!
>>55207178
>>55207528
>>55217292
naaa, It would be much better if the stuff was distributed more evenly in the first place.
Too wasteful at the moment, I would never have let it get this ineffecient
>>55217290
What exactly does kangaroo meat taste like?
Is this website legitimate? I'm more left than weedman.
>>55208453
>>55217223
Has the percentage of test participators gone from 8% to 14% since this thread started?
>Everyone in this thread is anthropocentric over ecological
B-But the trees! M-Muh future generations!
>>55217637
b-but--FUCK OFF LIBTARD SHIT
>>55217637
Trees are fine, honestly though, we should be figuring out a way to be independent of the natural state instead of attempting to keep ourselves rooted to the status quo.
Only good way to develop is change ones environment, or develop so much that it does not matter.
>>55210296
I understeand it as socialism
>>55207178
>social democratic nationalist
What
Social democrat...
Excuse me while I go breed with brown people.
>>55207178
come at me /pol/
>>55211305
>reactionary
>capitalistic
>tfw not at all surprised
R8ing: stupid as fuck. My condolences to your loved ones :(
>>55209520
Same here. Yet I hate liberals.
I broke it
>>55217637
A lot of the questions relating to that were pretty dumb though.
Like "should we drastically reduce our standards of living to protect the environment?"
Who is going to say yes to that other than some kind of primitivist? The right answer is that we should strive to develop technology that would allow us to maintain or increase our standard of living without harming the environment.
>>55210575
Hello there.
>>55211581
You're clearly wasting your breath on a forum (???) because you're an autistic right-winger.
>>55207178
master race reporting in
>>55217472
Pretty much like beef. I've heard people compare it to venison but I don't agree. Gets a bit stringy if you overcook it. It is very lean. Like, there is no fucking fat on it at all, it's like the leanest, healthiest meat there is. Zyzz ate it everyday.
Also on these results I think I must've ticked the wrong box or something once because I was always strongly against religion.
>>55217487
Heh, yes it's legitimate. Wheelman might be portrayed as a crazy leftist but he's just another jewish puppet. Nothing will change in candy except that you now have a more diverse cabinet. The mainstream 'left' always disappoint in office.
>>55217637
>>55217670
>>55217711
>>55217996
>>55217487
I've proven that site is biased.
It obviously tries to appeal to your feeling with it's biased questions and answers.
There are better sites out there....
>>55216927
Well if you legit dont know
>Authoritarian
A system of government in which the state has complete control of everything. In the right hands, this is the best government possible. see; Monarchies and Fascism
>Conservative
Political stance which believes that conserving traditions is the best way to live and manage society.
>Libertarian
Also known as classic liberal. Its the political stance which believes anyone can do anything they want as long as it doesent hurt anyway or violate others freedom. Very little government. (muh roads)
>Progressive
Exact opposite of Tradition. Progressivism is the belief that society must progress to survive. By progress they mean let boys in girls toilets, tell people its normal to cut off your genitals, ban religion, corrupt society, do drugs, kill babies and turn the world communist.
Also anything but this is degenerate kill yourself fedora tier
>>55218366
>Libertarian
>Also known as classic liberal
Libertarian bullshit.
>>55218446
What's it called?
>>55218366
>authoritarian good
No.
>Also known as classic liberal.
Erm, no. To be more accurate, libertarianism is an offshoot of a small subset of classical liberal thinkers like Molinari and Bastiat (people who no one else gave a fuck about). Broadly-speaking, classical liberals were NOT libertarians or even close to being so. Dat Lockean proviso. Smith's support of labor protection to prevent collusion between capitalists. J.S. Mill being a market socialist.
>turn the world communist
LOL.
>>55218366
Communism is not progressivism.
Progressivism has very little to do with communism.
Communism is authoritarian (eventually) conservative. A communist nation would aggressively do anything necessary to maintain status quo once the status quo is achieved.
>>55218366
>muh roads
Libertarian =/= Minarchy
>>55217845
Every european on /pol/ is nationalist now
>>55210878
What about Catalonia in the 30s, Tito's Yugoslavia, the Paris Commune, modern Europe, and Israeli kibbutzim?
Also, the most traditional of societies (some would call them primitive) live with communal ownership of land and most goods but have no government.
![Peter_Kropotkin_circa_1900[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/UFneWhP.jpg "Peter_Kropotkin_circa_1900[1].jpg")
>>55211350
Ho ho ho, someone isn't getting a share of communal resources this Christmas.
>>55207178
>>55211581
That disconnect on the large scale is why the most successful far-left societies are either small scale (kibbutzim etc) or brought together by a unifying force with varying degrees of benevolence and force (like Yugoslavia under Tito).
>>55218821
Catalonia's regional government 'the republic' was well known to suppress anarchist tendencies through misinformation and murder.
At first hey needed the anarachists, but very quickly the betrayed them as they secured power.
There is nothing wrong with being authoritarian. Paternalism is the best route to an efficient society. The issue is with figuring out who decides whats best for the whole. The confucian societies of old probably did it best, or looking at someone like octavian who was specifically chosen for his ability instead of a direct heir.
>>55213264
ebin
>>55218366
I'd say Conservativism-Progressivism is more about the Constrained-Unconstrained Visions of Thomas Sowell. Progressives do not believe human nature is real and that any form of society is possible with the right indoctrination, which is the basis for their hope of progressing to a perfect society.
>>55218366
>dat progressive definition
Tip top strawman
Behold faggets
>>55210420
Watching roo much faux news?
>>55219037
>tfw i am INTP
>>55219246
find me a progressive that doesn't think that way, and then you have an argument that he is strawmanning.
on the surface, his definition seems like BS and backed more by emotion than actual fact, especially compared to the rest. but when you consider that everything he lists are things progressives clamor for, you realize he's got a point.
>>55219037
i've actually always been curious how Jung types and political affiliation match up.
it would be interesting to see a huge sample of people taking a Jung test and the political compass test, and seeing if there is any tendency for one group or another to clump in similar views.
>>55213966
>>55214133
Sounds perfect. We need to start a alt-right party in Canada, bros
>>55219391
As I implied above, the idea that they're trying to make us all communists is ridiculous. They're not calling for the abolition of private ownership of business. They're welfare capitalists at most.
>>55219250
what test is this one anyways
>>55219250
>communism
fag
>>55219510
>(F)eeling types tend to mostly be left leaning
>(S)(T) types tend to be your average country club republicans
>(N)(T) seems to be libertarian
>>55219528
You communists ARE bad.
What the fuck kind of political system denies a man his reward for hard work?
Such questions would get me sent to the gulag right bi-queer-fart-gender-trans-comrade-kun?
>>55219528
>>55219682
Wrong thread
Just look at the flag etc
>>55207836
file name
>>55219528
>As I implied above, the idea that they're trying to make us all communists is ridiculous.
when they demand more government regulations in business, mandatory redistribution of wealth, and the abolishment of private property rights, i have bad news for you? they're fucking communists.
when they want free speech strictly limited, believe that the state should be able to monitor you because "if you did nothing wrong you have nothing to be afraid of," and write letters and petitions to the government demanding that people who spread "wrong thinking," be it college professors, scientists, or journalists, should be arrested for their beliefs? They are communists.
>>55208016
God knows how many times I've seen this
keking everytime
>>55219648
i also believe that to be true. I think (I) also tend to lean libertarian, although (E) does not necessarily lean authoritarian.
When you think about it though, the fact that (T), thinking, logic and reason based types, lean right and libertarian, that is really all you should need to know. Leaning left and authoritarian is reactionary, and based on emotion, leaning right and libertarian is based on fact and reason.
of course, nothing is set in stone. I've know people on the center left who were very reasonable and logical, and there are a myriad examples of idiots on the far right who do everything based on gut feelings, beliefs, and emotion and don't know a fucking thing about anything, let alone ever tried to stop and think WHY their position was correct.
>>55219391
Neo-Progressivism is shit. Old/Normal Progressivism is actually good, like T.R and Lincoln.
>>55220324
How am I not surprised that you don't know what communism is? They're not calling for the communization of property. That would require handing over control to... everyone. Not the government. Not private business owners.
I understand if you don't like this. Ideology is a helluva drug.
>>55207528
>democratic National liberal
Is this good?
>>55210583
I got the same thing actually; the test was written by Nazilanders, though.
>>55220546
DUR IT WASNT REAL COMMUNISM
IT WORKS GUYS MARX WAS A GENIUS
>>55207178
Pretty much what I expected.
>>55220546
>That would require handing over control to... everyone. Not the government.
maybe you don't know what communism is. Do you think Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and all the rest gave control of everything to the people? that they lived in some magical land where all was equal and good and free?
The type of communism you think is real communism can not exist, and will never exist. I'm talking about the kind we actually have had. You can take your Bernie Sanders "my communism hasn't failed, all other communism was not real communism!" level bullshit and fuck right off.
>>55216112
2 and 3 were reasonable, must have accidentally hit them on your way to insanity.
>>55220820
I'm not a Marxist, fgt.
>le bootlicker meme
Subversion of thought isn't this easy CIA
>>55220665
yes.
democratic means you believe in a representative government and the right of people to be part of that process.
National means you support your nation and people
liberal, in the sense they use it, means you support civil rights and personal freedom.
because of the vast ways these words are used, and some of the controversy around some of them, the site would have been a lot fucking better off if they defined what the words were, and why they used them in the context they did.
DNL does not mean "dirty fucking leftist," despite the fact that that might be the first impression you get when you read it.
>>55220954
This is me.
>>55211230
