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>Reportedly footage of SBU arrest of #Kharkiv bombers. Draw your own conclusions.
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>Enrico Ivanov "we're not responsible for today's attack on a peaceful rally."
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>Donbass under fire: On the roads of war
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>Combat footage: NAF troops entering Debaltsevo
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>#Ukraine preparing for 'full-scale war and wants #Canada to help
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>ukrainian politicians dreaming about taking Crimea and genociding it
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>Kiev's Ambassador to Germany admits the presence of neo-nazis fighting in Ukraine live on Germany television
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>TANKS abandoned in Debaltsevo by fleeing Ukrainian soldiers
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>Americans mad at Germans
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>Just your ordinary conscription
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FIRST FOR EVROPA
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>>41893445
learn to thread, OP, it's terrible
>>41893155
The "Strelkov Reports" VK group had constant reports about the situation in the east (so much I left it because it was spamming my feed). No effort was made by him to stop and Strelkov is definitely smart about cultivating his image.
I don't think think he personally ordered the attack, but he was the minister of defense of the DNR at that time. The Ukies were carrying out a huge air offensive (and gained a lot of ground) at that time, so it wouldn't be surprising that the seps would have been shooting at anything and everything in the sky.
It was one of those unfortunate things that happen in every war.
>>41893445
Russia's plan to annex half of ukraine:
https://mobile.twitter.com/rConflictNews/status/570351372941393920
Liberation train don't stop!
>>41893523
what the fug did i do wrong poland
>>41893667
it doesn't change the fact that it's just a fanpage run by a third person, with no direct connection to Strelkov and NAF command... it is real in your mind.
>>41893814
Do you really believe the Ukies shot it down?
>>41893716
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>>41893445
>Just your ordinary conscription
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAFvxe84rCM
Once again that's fake.
This video is not from Ukraine but Russia.
He's not dodging draft, he's a wanted criminal.
Longer version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVoYReS3BJw
>>41893920
>>41893716
OLD THREAD >41883535
>>41893866
i don't believe either... i'm just calling bullshit on you and your flawed reasoning.
>>41893698
Between 4 and 12 february 2014?
Wasn't that the time when Ukraine was in crisis? It's not like they planned this for years in advance, they reacted to recent events and prepared for eventualities
>>41893866
The problem with the "ukies shot it down" theory is that it would postulate the existence of ukies that can hit a target.
Western Ukrainians fight each other over supermarket bread, vegetable oil in preparation for economic collapse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYAC_pJLEI8#t=20
>>41894030
The document was published before the fall of yanukovych. But they had no faith and anticipated the fall of the government. It seems they needed to act more suddenly than anticipated. But overall it looks like a reasonable plan to protect russian interests.
It also blames polish and UK intelligence services for the maidan.
>>41893698
>Novaya Gazeta
j-just don't...
>>41894123
That's why the Ukrainian word for sale is action. You must take ACTION.
>>41894123
martial law soon?
>>41893920
>>41893986
(((((((((
>>41894011
So what do you think happened?
so did a bomb really go off in Ukraine this weekend?
or was it another fake
>>41894260
lots of bombs have been going off
>>41894220
i think slapping deeds on either side and then trying to prove them by justifying the actions believed to be carried out by the accused side is a pretty warped and fucked up mechanism.
>>41894260
There was a pro-Ukraine march in Kharkiv and a bomb went off, but details have changed about it constantly. First it was an IED in the snow, than something in a plastic bag, then a grenade thrown from a car. Video of the arrest looked 100% staged.
>>41894316
well when did the bombing start? ive been away from politics/news/world events of a little while, and just saw on sunday a video of an explosion.
>>41894123
>Current fell to 33/$ today.
It was 8/$ before this mess started.
> The prosecutor opened a case against Valeriy gontarev, head of the ukie central bank for shorting the currency.
>Russia providing gas to eastern regions.
>charging ukraine
>gas cutoff to the rest of ukraine in two days if they don't pay up.
Mass keks
>>41894467
the bombing never ended
the ceasefire was a joke
>>41894467
>When did the bombing start?
A year ago?
Pic related, partisans blew this rail bridge about a month ago.
>>41894403
wut
>>41894469
>>41894469
You're right, the Ukraine currency is looking pretty god damn tempting.
When it returns to it's previous potency, massive gains are to be expected.
We can all make a boatload of money by ending this Ukraine conflict thing right now.
I bet you guys didn't know about this
>Korsun massacre anniversary - what really pushed Crimea away from Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loKajkXoTBU#t=553
Pic related
>>41894534
partisans, but did anyone "claim" it?
>>41894514
i imagined so, but had on the ground stuff to take care of so just stopped paying attention >>41894453
damnson
>>41894673
>>41894534
>>41894514
read this
>>41894649
Ayy Luxembro!
Strangely I didn't...
>>41894584
>When it returns to it's previous potency, massive gains are to be expected.
Hahahahahahaha
Zimbabwe dollars in 30 minutes.
>>41894699
yo belgiumbro
i didn't either an hour, i just found it
it's horrible
>>41894695
read it
fishy as fuck
>>41894744
probably why it's now not of importance anymore, case got swept under a rock pretty quickly
>>41894714
>yes this conflict will never end or Ukraine will be completely overtaken or something
sure thing brah, don't mind me, just making some mad shekels
>>41894584
you are tarded if you think the grievna is going anywhere but down.
>>41894673
>did anyone claim it?
ZNR claimed it.
You rage, you lose.
>>41894879
>reddit wants war
it truly is happening
>Bumping for anti shills
>>41894810
Poroshenko has tried to paint other shit as terrorism in the past, like the bus the seps allegedly shot up.
It's like these joke countries have the thought that "is terrorist, now gib monies usa" because 9/11 happened.
>>41894831
Sure it will end, but not soon enough that you can predict the final valuation of the currency or whether the uah will exist by the end.
It is entirely possible that businesses will update prices and they'll never return to before.
>>41894879
>hahaha they justify it as defense
>John Kerry: US will impose tougher sanctions against Russia in the coming days @AlexandruC4
Why?
>>41894983
But when the russians do it out of desire to prevent the border closing even further its really bad
>>41894936
yeah it's pretty fucked up.
>>41894899
Get ready for the draft man, I'll be wearing my Ace of Spades every day on my helmet until I die.
>>41894987
because russia is ebil
but in all seriousness, there are obviously things going on that are not being talked about
the situation is probably much, MUCH worse than we think
>>41894854
>ZNR
what kind of terrorist group is that?
>>41895014
i could use the exercise
>>41894987
>why?
NAF needs an excuse to capture Mariupol
>>41895014
Hey, ukies charge for ketchup packets. Maybe they dont deserve our freedom
>>41894987
Because why not, aye?
>>41895064
Zaporizhia People's Republic
>>41894987
>Why?
Russia will pay ffor its crimes, that's why
>>41894987
Because Russia is shit?
>>41895123
>Russia will pay
If Russia is paying, I think ukraine is holding a fire sale.
>>41894879
>UK has a pair
Yes it's being gripped tightly by the US :^)
>>41895120
>Zaporizhia People's Republic
I hope SBU get's them all then
>>41894695
wow interesting any links to the actual videos, all I can find are news reporters talking but not the actual videos
>>41894987
john kerry is a ghoul in every sense of the word
id say dont trust him at all but he is also known to do fakeouts so just dont listen to him but watch the shit he pulls
>>41894987
>Why?
Since when they need a reason?
>>41895123
>>41895129
>SCARED OF MULTIPOLAR POWER DISTRIBUTION
Dawn of a new age motherfuckers
>>41895207
This pretty much sums up the US since Yalta.
>>41895170
>the actual bombing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m21sx35os8c
>the arrest of the alleged perpetators, you be the judge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT8a0o9JscE
As much as I've been following the Ukraine news, I still don't understand the "Pro-Russian rebels". Are foreign countries allowed to intervene with the foreign legion to pacify the pro-Russian rebels, or will Russian take action against that to protect there interests?
Reason being is because of the recent foreign AID that's been given to the "Pro-American rebels". It just seems more like the proxy wars of the 60s-90s.
>>41894695
>>41895067
fucking kek
>>41894987
Hopefully Putin will finally fucking really invade Ukraine and hang Waltzman for war crimes.
>>41895246
>are they allowed
They're only allowed as much as they're willing to risk it. International politics.
>>41895158
I see what you did there
>>41895002
>when Russia does it its good
>when the West does it its bad
Funny how it goes both ways my friend.
>>41895246
>"Pro-Russian rebels".
There are no pro-Russian rebels. Its a Russo-Ukrainian war with a some krokodil riff-ruff from Donbas as a facade in front of Russian troops.
>>41895391
>Its a Russo-Ukrainian war
then how is kiev still standing?
>>41894987
Did any of you actually noticed the source of this shit?
This guy reported the source was from
>liveuamap
The same shitty site that gives bad information about the war.
>>41895380
Its fine and justified. Don't really see anyone calling this an invasion of NVR by american-funded sources.
>NVR isnt real though anon!
>NVR isnt real according to NATO. Russia doesnt want NATO to be the only ones who can decide on shit like this.
Russia is fighting for a multipolar world.
The West is fighting to sustain a monopole world built on American ideals
>>41895420
Cause Russia is not even a paper dragon. It's a shit dragon.
Putin literally can not afford larger scale war.
>>41895425
well it's not farfetched tbh
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/21/russia-additional-sanctions-john-kerry-london-talks-philip-hammond
>>41895420
Obviously because glorious Ukrainian army destroyed whole Russian army and now Russia have to draft people from street.
>>41895458
oh yeah, sure.. come on stop trolling
>>41895380
It has nothing to do with good or bad, it has to do with forcing Russia into a corner.
It doesn't matter who's right. Only an idiot would want that.
>>41895461
top kek
>>41895458
russia can go into full scale war mode and pay it's peasants in barley and salted pork
the russian people are hardy, they don't give up
they aren't spoiled like americans
imagine if the internet was down in america for a day, we'd all go nuts
>>41895476
Putin's regime will fall if he openly invades Ukraine on a large scale, what's unclear about it?
>>41895460
I haven't found any of the usual 'official news' reporting 'new sanctions.' Your sources are 'thinking' and 'threats.' It's the usual political saber rattle. Until there's an official source.
My point is the source is sketchy.
So, what are the chances one of the brit's getting packed off to Ukraine get's killed and Cameron then has to justify british casualties over some shitty civil war.
>>41895561
yeah, well, we'll see tomorrow
>>41895246
Russia has a comparative advantage in ukraine, militarily. The US/UK have more resources but not enough more to make up for the fact that
> 1 Russia speaks the language
> 2 Russia can ship equipment by rail to ukraine for probably like 1/1000th of the cost the US pays
> 3 Russian people consider this a threat and are willing to die for it.
Serious involvement in ukraine would be like Vietnam but the situation is even less favorable to a US victory.
>>41895573
Probably not much, just like in iraq. They will rev up the patriotic brit narrative.
>he died for the crown against the ebil russian
>>41895552
Fun fact unclear is an anagram for nuclear.
>>41895546
America is not a country built for total war.. Most of your citizens hate your country, and those who don't hate it love it in an individualistic way which would be of no use to any actual war effort.
>>41895552
Very clear.
>>41895420
>Its a Russo-Ukrainian war with a some krokodil riff-ruff from Donbas as a facade in front of Russian troops.
>>41895420
>then how is kiev still standing?
>>41895458
>Putin literally can not afford larger scale war.
mate, you're one confused burger.
>>41893523
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>>41895625
>Serious involvement in ukraine would be like Vietnam
This. And seeing as America doesn't have a great record in repeating that mistake (see: Iraq), it's almost inevitable.
>>41895573
none, they won't be in combat
but russia will see it as a provocation
the US is also sending paratroopers to train the ukrainians, so if Russia does anything NATO can pull the "we have troops in country gotta go fast" defense
>>41895401
>implying Asian people aren't fucking everywhere.
6 out of every 10 people are Asian.
>>41895708
Sounds like funzies. Would be interesting to see the troops match up against each other.
>>41895625
US has all of western ukraine willing to whore itself for the idea of becoming like a western european country after it discovered that it couldn't handle relationship with russia.
>>41895675
>>41895546
Well fuck off back to Russia then. I hope there is a serious war and your parasitic asses gets shipped back out of here to eat your salted pork and barley back in the Motherland.
>>41895785
Fighting for a schengen zone passport isn't the same as fighting for the Sacred Rodina - which is something many of the seps sincerely believe they're doing.
>>41895660
You have no idea what are you talking about. , bongaloid.
>>41895785
If there was any kind of war, Russia wouldn't want to absorb western ukraine anyway. Would be like eating cancer.
Murrica blaming Ruskies of propaganda.
>>41895840
"serious war"
Hope you have enough umbreallas for a couple weeks of nuclear fallout and a coat good enough for 20 years of winter.
fucking amerifats are so butthurt that they are the highest risk for nuclear war right now. remember: russian nuclear policy is a clear "never fire first"
>>41895785
>west ukraine will fight
US puppet forces are basically worthless, militarily. Look at Iraq.
They can keep a population in check, but they get painfully steamrolled by ISIS. An ill equipped, ill trained, but motivated irregular locally connected force.
>>41895785
It already has whored itself out.
> Who is Poroshenko?
>>41895893
Sandnigger TV forgot to mention to whom he said that, which is the most important part.
>>41895881
>muh wolverines!!
Not a single die-hard American patriot would be prepared to run at a tank with a bomb strapped to them just to slow down a convoy for a few minutes. That is what is required.
>>41895940
Yeah no shit. It was obvious back when McCain gave his little speech at Maidan. THe Ukies could have never organized that well without external help/funds
>>41895881
he may have a point. US has powerful tech and navy sure. Ground forces though? US wimped out in WW2 and used nukes in asia and the only reason the d-day landings succeeded was because the coast was defended by riffraff and whatever survived the eastern front rotation. I mean, US can be very, very patriotic but would they be if it's not a defensive war?
>>41895971
>Not a single die-hard American patriot would be prepared to run at a tank with a bomb strapped to them just to slow down a convoy for a few minutes. That is what is required.
Are you posting from a padded room somewhere?
>>41895893
why is kerry still a thing
>>41895893
Both sides are guilty of Propaganda. Although west propaganda is right. SLAVA UKRAINI
>>41895983
Just look at vietnam. Not only did they fail, but the Army was fucking hated for a long time.
>>41895546
Meh. Russia currently is like Russia pre-WW2, when it comes to military potential. It looks like shit, it smells like shit, on paper it would perform horribly in a shit-hits-the-fan situation, but there's no way to be sure. And nobody wants to find out, because if it is indeed shit, it still has nukes.
scan for OEM
>>41896026
You know I'm right. Americans aren't cut out for war, the evidence is written across history. You've only won a single war in your entire existence, and the French fought it for you.
>>41896075
Proof?
1994 Yeltsin Russia doesn't exist anymore unfortunately for the west. Some tech might be slightly behind(compensated by cost) but there's not really much besides that.
>>41896124
>what is the Soviet Union
And you were so butthurt you fought a pussy COld War with them for 40 years.
>>41896075
No one is advocating taking Moscow militarily. However, if the costs of his stupidity rise, Putin will either have to change direction in Ukraine, or lose power.
>>41896167
Please, Putin's reaction was perfectly predictable. He is not being irrational.
>>41896113
lol, no
>>41896167
>"Stupidity"
Don't see the west getting the results it wanted with Ukraine. And we cant keep the oil prices down forever...
>>41896108
analysis complete. result safe.
>>41896133
And Russia is one of the few countries that is way ahead of the US in a few areas of military technology.
In terms of EMPs, torpedoes, SAMs, rocketry, and ERA, Russia is technologically ahead of the US.
>>41896167
>However, if the costs of his stupidity rise, Putin will either have to change direction in Ukraine, or lose power.
I don't know about costs. You are thinking more sanctions? Don't think it will work.
tbh I'm not even sure that 'monetary cost' even comes up in the Russian mentality.
Suggesting Russia would abandon russians or give back Crimea because 'money' is actually an insult. You would have to break the country completely before you could force something like that.
>>41896232
>RUSSIA IS THE BIGGEST THREAT EVER GUYS, THEY WANT TO TAKE OUR FREEDOMS
>meanwhile....
>>41896133
>Some tech might be slightly behind
>last production tank was designed in the USSR
>Some tech might be slightly behind
>>41894123
but that's how the women in the western world fight on shoes sales, does that mean they are preparing shoes that they never wear for economic collapse?
>>41896167
>or lose power.
To who? Is there any 'pro-western' opposition that isn't on the CIA's payroll?
>>41894987
Looks like it's time to place some money in some currency pairings. Just saying.
>>41896075
The Finnish are greatly emotional when it comes to the issue of Russia, otherwise you are nice rational people. But the finnfriends in these threads? Dear God, they swallow the myth of the Russian boogeyman whole.
>>41896167
>However, if the costs of his stupidity rise, Putin will either have to change direction in Ukraine, or lose power.
Muhrica, everyone.
Perhaps the US should just back off from world policing altogether. What do you say?
>>41896348
By that standard the last production US tank was designed in the 70s.
>>41896348
They don't need to go into production with a really up to date tank though. Who's going to invade them by land?
They seem to have continued some sort of tank development as well, we'll see if the Armata shows itself this year.
>>41896348
Grads are old too but they keep on updating them and they work.
BTW, T90 isn't soviet and in the current state is very advanced.
Are you gonna argue that the AKM or AK-74 are bad?
>>41896408
>But the finnfriends in these threads? Dear God, they swallow the myth of the Russian boogeyman whole.
Maybe in these threads. From what I've read though, Finland is fine remaining neutral/a good neighbour. USSR kept it's word of co-existence with Finland throughout the cold war, so has Russia.
Would Russia really really want to start a war when it has so many problems to deal with already?
>>41896463
Russian strategy since at least WW2 has been to iterate existing designs rather than build completely new ones from scratch.
It is a big part of the reason that they crushed the Germans.
>>41896408
I don't think of Russia as a "boogeyman" at all. It's a great regional power and acts like one. If it feels like the gain of an action outweighs the cost then it will do it. There's no good or bad in geopolitics. For example, I don't think Russia threatens Finland at all. I still wouldn't mind seeing Russia partitioned so that it stays that way.
>>41896395
Why do they not have to be on the CIA's payroll?
>>41895240
thank you
was a bit interesting/fishy, why did they bother releasing that video in the first place? seems it would be a national security deal
also why cut out sounds for a few seconds and edit the video multiple times
and why like 3-4 times cover their faces so much
hmm
>>41895697
>>41895903
both went to shit when the new guy stepped in and decided to change an agreement that was made
both could have been fully won had the new president/leftist stuck to the plan
>>41896574
Damn right. No time to make new tanks when your men are dying on the battlefield. The key is quick response to a problem.
>>41896433
> prototype
scary
>>41895641
Holy shit Belgium, you just destroyed that guy. I'm not sure I like that.
>>41895641
AOOO AOOOOOOO
>>41896686
hahah holy shit it looks like a bionic
>>41896686
Complains about russian prototype
posts american prototype
>>41896395
If Elliot Rogers was a country his name would be Russia.
>Oh I am so awesome; why would anyone dislike me? Oh I know, must be THE CIA. What else could it be?
>>41896677
>both could have been fully won had the new president/leftist stuck to the plan
Maybe, but it doesn't seem like poroshenko is sticking to the plan. So the outcome of complete shit seems likely.
>>41896660
I am sorry if I sounded a little too accusatory, finnfriend. Upon rereading, I should have phrased what I said a little better. We do see some Finnish posters that are a bit on the irrational side when it comes to this particular topic. The generalization was unnecessary and for that I apologize.
If you consider the history of the Russian expansion, things needed to be that way they are. Nowadays, though, with modern artillery, aerial combat and other military tech it is unnecessary for Russia to be the behemoth country that it is. They may be too culturally homogeneous or assimilated for that to be a possibility, unfortunately.
>>41895014
Wow hard to believe Syrian happening threads were 2 years ago already
NEVAR 4GET
Ace of Spades: Path of Light
>>41893445
>Americans mad at Germans
>http://fortruss.blogspot.mx/2015/02/german-newspaper-bild-gets-inside-us.html
>bild journalists
That source is not to be trusted.
The Bild is the German equivalent of the Sun. For them a German/American dispute is a sensation. They are just trying to catch readers attention.
The Bild has a fuck-long history of lying to make shit sensational. Almost every article contains inaccuracies, exaggerations or vague statements that were intentionally placed to make the 'news' more interesting.
>>41895014
>>41897251
Just realized after i posted
it's ace of clubs, not spades
>>41896821
It's my understanding that Putin has obliterated any and all open political opponents. Just look what happened to Navalny. Who else remains?
I would guess that the only people who would pose a threat would be people in his own cadre that would turn on him given the opportunity.
>>41896660
Lol'd at finnish dreams. You know your country is our rightful territory, right?
>>41896395
There's no opposition in Russia, let alone "pro-western" opposition. Russia is a totally ideologically monogenous country.
>>41897712
>>41897763
мyхocpaнcкoe быдлo дeтeктeд
>>41895246
I don't like when people talk about "pro-Russian rebels". I think it's derogatory for our cause. It's the hohols who are rebels, starting riots against the Empire and wanting to be independent. What we do is bringing order to them and reminding them of their place in the world. That's not a rebellion, that's pacification.
>>41897712
>>41897763
You are not Russian, you can only be a proxyfag.
why is the news so slow?
>>41895457
Multipolar whatnow?
>>41897802
Я в питepe живy, быдлo.
>>41897985
are you UIDF? If not you should sign up. Then you can be an internet hero
>>41897975
We are just waiting for Ukraine's economic meltdown already in progress. No need for open hostilities at this time.
>>41898030
Быдлo бывaeт и в гopoдe нa Hивe. Иди пoчитaй MДК cынoк
>>41897938
Nope. There are a lot of proxyfags traditionally here, but you are barking at the wrong tree.
>>41897975
There is a "ceasefire" going on, burgerfriend. Also, right now is nighttime in Europe, so don't expect much things going on right now.
>>41897978
Of the worst kind...
>>41898030
Nice Google Translate you've got there. GTFO.
>>41898030
>Bidlo
>>41898060
>нa Hивe
яcнo, пoнятнo
>>41898075
Coвceм плoх, бoлeзный?
All the americans in this thread and >>41895397 all desperately wanting to go to war with russia for some reason
If you want that so badly fuck off to Eastern europe to go die for your jewish masters. Leave the rest of the world out of it please.
>>41898116
Угaдaл? Hивa этo oфициaльнaя тaчкa быдлa CПБ.
Tы нe нa тoм caйтe чтoб yчeбник 5 клacca пpимeнять
>>41898159
Who gives a shit what they want? US will never dare to go to war with Russia. They even don't dare to help the hohols indirectly.
>>41898159
It's pretty gross, you can smell the amerifat sweat from waving their flag.
>>41898203
Aгa, блядь, цeлый гopoд, и вecь нa oднoй нивe. Oхyитeльныe иcтopии. Хyлe ты, cъeбaл в пиндocтaн, a pyccкий yжe зaбыл? Oтopвaлcя oт кopнeй, выхoдит?
>>41898361
VPN
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>>41898159
I don't.
I really don't.
I also don't want Russia to just start wontonly invading nations and forming a new soviet union.
>>41898203
>Chtob uchebnik piyatava classa primenyat
>>41897368
neg it was this
>>41896805
but that thing cannot even stand on non-flat grounds let alone walk on them
>>41898382
>wontonly
What kind of a word is this?
>>41898433
A wonton (also spelled wantan, wanton, or wuntun in transcription from Cantonese; Mandarin: húntun [xwə̌n tʰwən]) is a type of dumpling commonly found in a number of Chinese cuisines.
>>41898433
Wow he knows how to use a 5th grade US Grammar Book too?
Impressive for bydlo
>>41898411
yea i know, that's what i said
>>41898433
>wontonly
I dunno. An uncommon one?
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/wanton
I'm from the midwest if you're looking for dialect.
>>41898030
>pidere
>>41898252
Dont be so sure. They are trying to bait russia into doing something stupid so they have a reason. The anti russian propaganda from the USA will only increase in the next few years. All they need is the will of the people and they will have their war.
>>41898290
Its pretty damn astounding. The "Russia is evil coz the media told us so" thing is down right funny and a little scary that some americans would want to instigate WW3 just to maintain control over the entire world.
>>41898382
>I also don't want Russia to just start wontonly invading nations and forming a new soviet union
So far they havent invaded anyone.
But its fine for the USA to invade half the planet to make sure the governments there are pro-US.
>>41898463
Yeah, I tried those. But how do you make an adverb out of this and what is it supposed to mean?
>>41898508
Wontonly adverb
- Like a wonton
- With the culinary properties of a wonton
example : I also don't want Russia to just start wontonly invading nations and forming a new soviet union.
>>41898503
>But its fine for the USA to invade half the planet to make sure the governments there are pro-US.
fuck yeah it's fine, only the best get to do that and not rape and burn everything https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrvwpEx8Cvo
>>41898503
I dunno about anti-Russian propaganda. So far even the burgers here are mostly pro-Russian, about 3/4 of them anyway. Of course, some of them are emigrants or Russians using proxies, but still an impressive level of support for our cause. I would never expect the West to be so loyal, tbh before I came to 4chan I thought everybody hated us.
To Kiev!
>>41898565
Ah, yeah. Cause that's what wontons do: invade countries and form soviet unions. It's all so clear now!
>>41894987
Russia invaded Ukraine because Putin is fucking mantel. That is why.
How much longer will ukraine be able to sustain itself
>>41898631
this is politically "incorrect" board
>>41898678
>mantel
wat
>>41898631
This is /pol/. Neo-Nazis are normal here. This is not an accurate representation of society.
If they manage to get the average person in the USA keen for a war it will happen. Hell even with places like Iraq people were against it and the government did it anyway.
Dont underestimate the stupidity of the public who absorb all western media believing 100% that its the absolute truth. Even my dad wants to nuke russia right now because "Putin is a KGB thug who wants WW3, the USA is just trying to defend the rest of the world from the new Soviet Union", and any disagreeing means im a commie who should just move to russia.
>>41898719
*Autistic Manlet
>>41898678
We didn't invade anything, we are only taking what's rightfully ours and punishing stupid hohol scum for revolting against the Empire. Is something like Texas would try to break free, US would do the same thing, try to say you wouldn't.
>>41898778
>>41898631
A recent poll shows that sentiments are shifting.
http://www.people-press.org/2015/02/23/increased-public-support-for-the-u-s-arming-ukraine/
>>41898792
Pedophile communist manlet with assperger syndrome who is literally worse than Hitler.
>>41898778
So what you are saying is that in /pol/ the people are less susceptible to propaganda? Or that they consume different propaganda?
I don't know. I feel that the world is going crazy.
There is no reason why anyone would support Kiev, or even a US intervention in Ukraine for that matter. Also, I don't understand how the "Russians" in this thread are such simplistic retards incapable of nuanced thinking. The status quo was disrupted in Ukraine since a US-backed coup took place. Don't you understand that the aggressor here is the United States, not "your" country?
Common, think like real people.
>>41898159
Those are jews posting from America (who never set foot in our military) and Israeli jews posting from israel, who only serve in the Israeli army. Thus you may ignore them all.
>>41899155
Reminder that Ukraine now has an official Internet Defence Force too.
http://i-army.org/
>>41898778
>My Dad has two families.
>>41898843
Yeah, bound to happen with our media.
>>41898631
Eh, I'm not pro-Russia per se, but I am in the camp of "pushing NATO past the Carpathians was pretty retarded and this is the obvious result".
>>41899074
Well, I've never actually seen any evidence that US had a hand in what happened on maidan. It's just something everybody talks about, but it may very well be just a rumor. Regardless, with or without US backing, it's the hohols who did revolt, so the blame lies on them. You don't fucking turn your back on your older brothers, even if some rich guy promises you mountains of gold for this! The hohols have to pay, they have to serve as an example of what happens when you mess with Mother Russia.
>>41899275
BYDLO
>>41899275
The US even has its hand in Russia you Pussy Riot naive degenerate faggot!
>>41899275
time to realize the US has it's hand in everything, soon to be the dominant power in the World.
>>41899275
P R O X Y
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>>41899380
>a few "artists" who do retarded performances and become a laughing stock of the people
>US's hand in Russia
If that's the extent of US influence, they may go on. Way to waste your resources on something nobody gives a fuck about.
Also, didn't those voina people support the annexation of Crimea? So, US, even your agents, ridiculous as they are, have turned against you, how does it feel?
>>41899275
Seriously? So the documents proving that Porcoshenko's a CIA informant since at least 2006 are worthless?
Have to try a little harder, "ruskie". Also, if you want to sound convincing, you should probably stop with the mustache twirling villain façade. Just general advice.
There is little black or white in this world. Russia is as much as a villain as the USA. Keep that in mind the next time you post using your VPN.
>>41899627
You're part of NATO too, or at least your proxy server is you son of a bitch.
>>41899418
Not if Mother Russia has something to say about this. Eastern gayrope is pretty much ours already, ukr is just a start. Then, eventually, Russia will grow into the biggest power in Eastern Hemisphere, and US will have to roll over.
>>41899668
Im not the one pretending to be Russian and purposefully saying stupid fucking shit to tarnish Russian image.
>>41899275
>The hohols have to pay, they have to serve as an example of what happens when you mess with Mother Russia.
Actually, we're going to kill you all you piece of shit soviet. Our ICBMs, unlike yours, will work and we're willing to loose our cities in order to take your whole country.
You're going to die Ivan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpH5L8zCtSk
>>41899613
>documents proving that Porcoshenko's a CIA informant since at least 2006
Link please.
>mustache twirling villain façade
Sorry, what? We are the good guys here, we bring order and justice to rebel respublics.
>>41899771
>Spergspiere is back
>>41899566
You don't need that many commas when you write.
I noticed your post while browsing and thought you should know.
>>41899733
No, you're the fag claiming that Russians who don't follow your propaganda, Ivan, aren't Russians.
Fuck you and die too. You're all going to die you bloody ruskie
>>41899733
What do you find stupid? Russia has interests to protect in ukr.
>>41899812
Hehehe, soberfag
*rubbing hands*
>>41898433
just ignore it, it's probably yiddish.
>>41899795
Go fuck yourself. You'll be hard-pressed to find any country that is "the good guy". Many good goys exist, though.
Oh, Robesperg is here. How not suspicious at all.
Also Google, motherfucker. Do you type it?
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/06KIEV1706_a.html
Here you go, from Portugal with love.
Learn nuance.
>>41899771
Yeah, yeah. You know what's the problem with you burgers? You are all talk. You can't do shit without approval of "the people", which means that as far as foreign policy goes you can't do shit, period. Your threats are just barking of dogs.
>>41898433
Probably just WHATABOUTISM faggot
>>41899826
Yeah, I know I use Russian punctuation rules subconsciously. Usually I'm just too lazy to pay attention to those things.
>>41899771
>Israeli warmonger jew detected.
Literally zero Americans in real life ever thought this, ever said this. We mostly hate the nigger Obomba, and admire, openly or on the sly, comrade Putin.
Russkie friends just fire the nukes direct at israel and these embarrassing posts like above will cease.
>>41899771
>>41899844
>>41899892
>>41899976
http://youtu.be/YgHNtzxO0y8
You're welcome.
>>41899966
>You can't do shit without approval of "the people", which means that as far as foreign policy goes you can't do shit, period.
We killed the british empire and took over the world. We also pushed your empire till it fell apart. Don't say we're "all talk".
When the American people decide its time for you to die, then you're fucked. That's why its out duty as good Americans to convince the others that you need to die.
>Your threats are just barking of dogs.
Tell that to Saddam
Tell that to the Japanese on August 5th of 1945
Tell that to the Israelis and Brits during the Suez Crisis
Tell that to the Mexicans of the 1840s
Tell that to the Taliban
Yeah, we will kill you. All you need to do is cross the invisible red line that's set by the people and not the faggot in charge and your life will end fucker.
Your women already decided that your country doesn't matter. How long till your men agree and let the Russian Federation fragment into individual nation states?
Only victory way is if ukraine have leader like pol pot but ukraine have weak fat man no strong soul like pol pot so defeated
>>41899966
I told you you fucking idiot "ZERO ACTUAL REAL LIFE AMERICANS THINK THAT BULLSHIT OR TALK LIKE THAT">>41899771
You are chatting with an Israeli jew, and damning his comments as "You Americans....."
He is fulfilling your wishes of what the ideal "stupid American" would talk and think like. That stupid fucking jew is literally in a Hasbara room in Tel Aviv trying to start WW3.
>>41900115
> our duty
Fixed
>>41900149
You do know that Spergspiere admitted to being a native mexican and non-white, right?
>>41900115
>When the American people decide its time for you to die, then you're fucked. That's why its out duty as good Americans to convince the others that you need to die.
You do not speak for the American people you sickening jew. You have nukes, you go ahead and launch them from Tel Aviv if you want to see nukes fly.
>>41899954
Our country is monolithic, we don't have all this individualist bullshit you do in gayrope. Not in important political questions, anyway. So we are all the good guys. We do what we can to bring order to the region and purge it of the individualist and nationalist shit. Also thank you for Wikileaks, will read. The fact than porky is a CIA pawn doesn't change anything in my treatment of hohols, but still good to know.
>>41900115
>>41900155
this is pathetic
>>41900115
>Tell that to the Taliban
Afganistan is ruled by taliban, you fag.
>>41900227
It only gets worse
>>41897251
That's what started this shit to begin with.
Those American ships were ready to fire before the Russian warships started moving towards them. Smart people were holding their breath because it almost went down then. I'm confident that eventually it will come out that we were a hair away from a fucking naval confrontation.
Obama was forced into a corner and made to look like even more of a retard to the rest of the world. He was forced to accept the Russian offer of Syrian disarmament of chemical weapons. Or else.
>Check mate.
The memory of the American people is short so they all but fucking forget the whole thing even happened.
Obama did not forget.
The whole Maidan thing was payback. Oh so much payback. The world is being dragged to Hell because of his ego.
>>41900115
>When the American people decide
That's just a long way to say "never", right?
>>41900194
That's a good cover I guess. But I know Mexican people and I can tell you that zero of them give a fuck about what's happening in Russia or Ukraine.
He's a fucking jew posting from Tel Aviv or wherever jews fester.
>>41900149
Hehehe
>Israeli Jew
Hohohoho
You're pissed and you don't even sound like a shill. You sound more like a fool who bought into the shills' rhetoric and now your cognative dissonance is making your head hurt.
Just remember faggot: when the Minuteman 3s and Trident 2s go on their one-way trips to Russian cities, you'll have a lot of explaining to do to the rest of the American people when they turn their anger towards the pro-Russian fags like you and decide that they can get revenge at home instead of having to go all the way over to the burned-out ruins of the "motherland" to rape and kill the Russian survivors.
The rules of war don't apply to the treatment of Russia's 5th Column
>>41900227
>>41900221
Try harder
Nice new tactic though. Guess you can't win with facts or persistence.
>>41900300
I openly laugh in your face you fucking retard jew.
dear Russia, please fire a few nukes at Israel and silence this cringeworthy faggot JIDF hero.