LINKS for DEC 21
>ARTICLES..http://pastebin.com/GEzLKa7c
>TWITTER....http://pastebin.com/t8679UsR
>VIDEO........http://pastebin.com/hVRCFb83
>ARCHIVE....http://pastebin.com/Nqw00Snc
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/syria/damascus
>Livestream Syrian TV Channels
http://live.rtv.gov.sy/Sat.aspx?LQ=1
>TIMELINE Syria/Iraqi Civil Wars
https://youtu.be/TyHkSEs6dAM
>Songs for Wartime - PLAYLIST
https://youtu.be/Kg1HhYyawyQ?list=PLQdf0nbcMr4Tm23PzI_BJ-83qxYOgO-Ou
PERMANENT MAPS
>Live map with ticker
http://syria.liveuamap.com/
>Interactive Military Maps
http://militarymaps.info/
>Zoomable Map
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zBQmSuDKQbh0.kBw9-jZtOjZI
>Syrian Civil War Sept 30-Pres
http://www.edmaps.com/html/syrian_civil_war_in_maps.html
>RuAF Ops
http://sputniknews.com/infographics/20151130/1030993895/russia-syria-operation-interactive.html
TODAY'S MAPS
>Situ Khan Tuman S Aleppo DEC 21
http://www.agathocledesyracuse.com/archives/599
https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/679048269087956992
>SAA/HEZ take Khalidiyah/Zerbeh DEC 21
https://twitter.com/PetoLucem/status/678970354400935937
https://twitter.com/Syria_Protector/status/678991744621404160
>NDF attack Jabal Zuwayqat DEC 21
https://twitter.com/islamicworldupd/status/678916991063846912
>SAA strategy Khan Tuman DEC 21
https://twitter.com/islamicworldupd/status/678914216460423169
>SAA/NDF take Al-Hadath, Homs DEC 21
https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/678870552233140224
>SAA take Zerbeh Poultry Farm DEC 21
https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/678874683840716800
>SDF off begins Sarrin/Tishrin Dam DEC 21
https://twitter.com/islamicworldupd/status/678872505948479488
BONUS: ISIS Gains/Losses
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/12/18/world/middleeast/Where-ISIS-Gained-and-Lost-Territory-Islamic-State.html?_r=0
>Previous Thread >>58972948
>SouthFront DEC 21
https://youtu.be/jFMNnWH9K0k
>TRACK 04
https://youtu.be/wuCR6W-tG4o
1st for ASSAD
fuck you turkey
>tfw the civil war ends in less than a year after constant help from Irak, Iran, Lebanon and Russia
>new coalition of arab nations with Irak, Iran, Syria, and Lebanon form
>brand new Chinese infrastructure and building companies roll around reinforcing middle-far eastern relations
>attention is now on to Yemen, Saudis back down
>Turkey’s dealings by Erdogan are shown and now he is in a civil war
>New Silk Road comes around and the middle east starts improving economically and techonogically
>Israel faces a new opponent, stops handling America so that it can protect itself
>with no conflicts to intervene, America slowly drowns in his unused military equipment
>focus of the world shifts into an Eurasian based multipolar order, NATO, Russia, Arabs and Far Asian blocks are formed
Well, a man can dream I guess.
3rd for Arab Nationalist Guard
First for Cats solving the ISIS problem.
>>58986374
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RodrZ2we_hQ
P A L M Y R A
>>58986591
I think that Israel feeds information to the US to have it acting as Israel wants, effectivelly protecting itself via the US.
>>58986674
Thats nasty
You're nasty
>>58986674
Good cat.
>>58986459
>dont thin it usa would need an extra base as they would get the same time i think
We can already use Turkey or a carrier.
10th for cringy anti-russian comics
>>58986374
Thanks for using the album cover. Three more songs then I will work on the next one.
>>58986759
It was discussed last thread...
>>58986374
Guys you've got to read this shit..
>"‘Our policy of arming the opposition to Assad was unsuccessful and actually having a negative impact,’ the former JCS adviser said. ‘The Joint Chiefs believed that Assad should not be replaced by fundamentalists. The administration’s policy was contradictory. They wanted Assad to go but the opposition was dominated by extremists. So who was going to replace him? To say Assad’s got to go is fine, but if you follow that through – therefore anyone is better. It’s the “anybody else is better” issue that the JCS had with Obama’s policy.’ The Joint Chiefs felt that a direct challenge to Obama’s policy would have ‘had a zero chance of success’. So in the autumn of 2013 they decided to take steps against the extremists without going through political channels, by providing US intelligence to the militaries of other nations, on the understanding that it would be passed on to the Syrian army and used against the common enemy, Jabhat al-Nusra and Islamic State."
>Military to Military
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v38/n01/seymour-m-hersh/military-to-military
What you think abou that view?
>US Secretary of State John Kerry was in Moscow this week bearing what can only be described as a bribe to Russia. The unspoken essence of Washington’s arm twisting towards Moscow is this: give us Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad’s head on a platter – and we’ll call off the dogs of war in Ukraine. The latter part of the deal also comes with the added “sweetener» that the US and its European allies would lift economic sanctions off Russia.
http://m.strategic-culture.org/news/2015/12/17/us-leverages-ukraine-for-regime-change-syria.html
>>58986833
Dude, it's awesome. How could I not .
>>58986674
aw that is so cute, do you think the cat killed that himself?
>>58987065
>Wow after 5years of war a general says what we knew to be true 4years ago
How can these idiots get into such high positions?
>>58987067
>people still think that Russia will just go and betray Assad after all these years.
No, they will not. Russians have an image as a country which doesnt abandon its allies, and they intend to keep that. Besides, if they wanted to throw him under the bus, they would have just given up in '12 or so.
>>58987065
I know I should be upset that the military is accused of undermining the president and so on.
But hell yes if this is true.
>>58987231
Throwing under the bus is for Obama to do.
>>58987065
hehehheheh
So pass it to the russians and the russians will pass it to assad... but they still act like a kid whos game is not working and will refuse to talk directly ...
But it's so strange, the shift is happening... yesterday a radiocast on bbc about al nursa being at the end of the "rebels" aid, also an article in the independent on how the uk is helping the saudis with rocksts, planes to bomb yemen ...
>>58987231
>Besides, if they wanted to throw him under the bus, they would have just given up in '12 or so.
Euromaidan and sanctions are from late 2013- early 2014.
>>58987065
His only source is one anon dude and we should trust him cuz he said so?
>Hersh alleges that the mastermind of this entire conspiracy was Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Martin Dempsey, whom Hersh says was horrified by Obama's plan to arm Syrian rebels and sought to aid Assad. This claim is difficult to believe: While in office, Dempsey famously and publicly clashed with Obama over Syria because Dempsey wanted to do more to arm Syrian rebels. Contemporaneous accounts of arguments within the White House support this, with Dempsey arguing the US should more robustly arm Syrian rebels, and Obama arguing for less.
VIDEO:
New clip from Khan Tuman battle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFEysoJbTh0
>Syrian Army tribute by Filatov / Anna news
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=24e_1450669611
>>58987795
Good shit, thanks
>>58987565
Seymour Hersh has enough of a name that if he says something people are willing to listen. >>58986674
>>58987167
>>58988036
I know, and I'll listen too. That don't mean he hasn't gone off the deep end.
>>58988182
Due to the nature of this administration and the general disrespect it has in military and Intel groups it wouldn't surprise me.
>>58987231
Anon, can you tell the difference between an ally and a pawn? Yeah, maybe Russia isn't really high on abandoning allies, but the only ally Russia has is... China maybe? Everyone else are just pawns in Putin's games.
Assad is still a useful pawn, so Putin keeps him in power, until he can extort every bit of usefulness form that guy and his country. Then, Assad will be discarded like those Ukrainian rebels.
>>58988286
Really? It wouldn't surprise you that the entire military committed a massive act of treason against the president for arming the rebels, when at the same time they bitch that we aren't arming them enough?
>>58987065
Nice link, thanks
>>58986674
i recognize this cat.
it was spotted in famous airport battle. it was rumored thet it ate dead ukr soldiers
>>58988425
Yeah but those rebels merely depend upon Russia. Assad has Iran and Hezbollah backing him, in addition to some level of political support from China.
Assad is hardly Putin's pawn. Iran's maybe, but not Putin's.
>>58987067
Another good link, this is what I like about /pol
>>58988479
The president is the one arming the rebels. So how is that treason?
And they generally don't bitch they are not being armed enough, that Mccain, not the military.
>>58986674
>>58988521
a ты быcтpый бpo
>>58988613
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/08/us/politics/panetta-speaks-to-senate-panel-on-benghazi-attack.html
This kind of destroys that dude.
![1400872493409[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/lHuXZ3N.png "1400872493409[1].png")
>>58988521
>>58988821
Panetta is part of the administration, not the Military.
>>58988521
>>58988640
top fucking kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-URrhbe0dM
>>58988952
KEK!!!
>>58988576
Iran and the Hezbollah are knee-deep in their own shit. They are the allies as they really have some pretty big stakes going on in Syria (especially Hezbollah).
Putin on the other hand only uses the conflict to get all that sweet media attention and show down his dick into Obambo's throat. He has nothing to lose there - that naval base won't magically disappear with Assad.
>>58988928
>Testifying before the Senate Armed Services Committee, Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta acknowledged that he and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, had supported a plan last year to arm carefully vetted Syrian rebels.
>chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Martin E. Dempsey,
>>58988928
>to whom the war and I was fine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8GPCmBSNF8
>>58986833
This false modesty does not become you America. I was expecting you to announce your upcoming tour dates, seeing you on Trevor Noah - talking about your new biography....and self-help manual
Still no eng subtitles anywhere eh?
https://youtu.be/ZNhYzYUo42g
Crap.
>>58989130
Putin cannot afford to lose Syria because of the naval base to the Mediterraneum, and also he can't allow the pipeline from UAE or Saudi Arabia to Turkey to be built.
>>58988952
HA!
>>58989190
Not knowing that after vetting they found like 200 rebels.
>>58987065
The JCS concluded that if those needs were met, the overall fight against Islamist terrorism would be enhanced. Obama didn’t know, but Obama doesn’t know what the JCS does in every circumstance and that’s true of all presidents.’
Once the flow of US intelligence began, Germany, Israel and Russia started passing on information about the whereabouts and intent of radical jihadist groups to the Syrian army; in return, Syria provided information about its own capabilities and intentions. There was no direct contact between the US and the Syrian military; instead, the adviser said, ‘we provided the information – including long-range analyses on Syria’s future put together by contractors or one of our war colleges – and these countries could do with it what they chose, including sharing it with Assad. We were saying to the Germans and the others: “Here’s some information that’s pretty interesting and our interest is mutual.” End of conversation. The JCS could conclude that something beneficial would arise from it – but it was a military to military thing, and not some sort of a sinister Joint Chiefs’ plot to go around Obama and support Assad. It was a lot cleverer than that. If Assad remains in power, it will not be because we did it. It’s because he was smart enough to use the intelligence and sound tactical advice we provided to others.’
The public history of relations between the US and Syria over the past few decades has been one of enmity. Assad condemned the 9/11 attacks, but opposed the Iraq War. George W. Bush repeatedly linked Syria to the three members of his ‘axis of evil’ – Iraq, Iran and North Korea – throughout his presidency. State Department cables made public by WikiLeaks show that the Bush administration tried to destabilise Syria and that these efforts continued into the Obama years.
>>58989099
Any more of this slag?
>>58989355
That's not what we are arguing about.
>>58989368
>Seymour M. Hersh on US intelligence sharing in the Syrian war
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v38/n01/seymour-m-hersh/military-to-military
if you liked the read here's another one from Hersh on the chemical attacks
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n08/seymour-m-hersh/the-red-line-and-the-rat-line
he got a lot of shit back then for this one but now Erdogan is getting rid of people who say the same stuff in Turkey so go figure
some fresh stuff from Leith that just got posted
http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-recaptures-al-hadath-in-east-homs-as-isis-retreats-towards-maheen/
>Syrian Army recaptures Al-Hadath in east Homs as ISIS retreats towards Maheen
>>58987427
> You really need to explain how this is going to benefit Russia in the long term. I don't see how it will. They might recover from this mess, but 'benefit'?
One of the Russian problem is the weight of the oil products in the economy. The answer is not limited to a single domain, but for instance with EU counter-sanctions, they have stimulated another part of their economy which lacked some serious investments: food and agro.
> Saudi Arabia's main goal was actually stop shale gas oil production in the US.
completely wrong, especially because USA is a net consumer of oil product (still produces less than they consumes), and exporting oil was not allowed (until very recently).
What Saudi wanted was to keep their market share in the emerging countries, especially China. They counted on a decrease of oil production by Russia (pic related) and even offered to Chinese authorities massive discounts to try to gain those market shares. But it's clear they failed at it, because China doesn't consider changing of alliance.
Shale gaz hit by low oil price is just there a side effect, on a
> No it's not. Russia has a trade SURPLUS with Turkey.
trade between Turkey and Russia, 2014, in k$ (Source : Central bank of Russia)
“Export” to Turkey “Imports” from Turkey Difference
Q1 724,424 951,562 -227,138
Q2 827,959 3 079,822 -2 251,863
Q3 854,468 4 507,810 -3 653,342
Q4 554,562 1 181,885 -627,323
2 961,412 9 721,079 -6 759,667
Trade deficit, in order of importance with Russia, in k$
-6 759 667 TURKEY
-3 554 376 EGYPT
-3 350 473 GERMANY
-3 220 915 FRANCE
-3 190 977 SPAIN
-2 930 141 UNITED STATES
-2 801 738 FINLAND
-2 737 126 CYPRUS
-2 469 502 THAILAND
-2 247 424 ITALY
-2 237 279 GREECE
-1 780 611 NETHERLANDS
-1 705 383 UNITED KINGDOM
-1 425 039 IRELAND
-1 044 702 CZECH REPUBLIC
-1 018 503 UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
So it's exactly the opposite of your claim: the biggest trade deficit Russia have is with Turkey.
>>58989313
>muh naval base
>muh pipelines
The naval base that had like 4 people manning it for years
The naval base that is redundant and easily rendered moot if Turkey closes the straits
That pipeline is never going to be built now too much chaos
>>58989651
The naval base, even unmanned (actually I think it's pretty well staffed, but no sources for any claim) works as a strategic and tactic port in the mediterraneum, it's a direct counter to some NATO control on it so they can't afford to lose it, even unmanned they can send people there anytime because they own it.
And no, the pipeline won't be build anymore but because Syria is gaining territory, had ISIS actually won, or rebels or anything Turkey would have been able to build it.
>>58988952
Poor erdogan. Don't you feel for him in his final scene? He is the victim. Cowering behind a rock, and that evil moster (did you see it had a tattoo?) might sodomise him in the next scene, as a political allegory obviously, not as gratuitous monster on vile leadership psychopath violence.
>>58988928
http://thehill.com/policy/international/281725-panetta-dempsey-endorsed-clinton-petraeus-plan-to-arm-syrian-rebels
>McCain pressed Panetta and Dempsey over whether they supported a plan to arm the Syrian rebels that was put forth by other members of Obama's national security team.
“We do,” Panetta said at a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing on the Benghazi attack.
“We did,” concurred Dempsey.
>>58988521
War pussy is everywhere
>>58989313
None of these things depends on Assad. Putin can just have a new puppet, preferably one that can actually keep his shit together unlike Assad.
>>58989278
Waiting comfy here!
edition.cnn.com/2015/12/18/politics/russia-us-syria-talks-isis/index.html
uhhhhhhh guys can I get a red pill or is this gonna happen
>>58986833
Requesting this song in there somewhere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi_Ydtd_hh8
>Use music from Roland the headless tompson gunner.
Roland was a Kitty from the Land of the Red borscht
With a dark fur groomed, eating to be done
The deal was made in Airport on a dark and stormy day
So he set out for novorussia to join the bloody fray
Through Thirteen and fourteen they fought the Ukraine wars
With their fingers on their triggers, knee-deep in gore
For days and nights they battled the Holhols to their knees
They killed to earn their living and to Make food for the kitty
Roland the holhol eater...
His comrades fought beside him - Van bin Owen and the rest
But of all the Kitties, Roland was the best
So the CIA decided they wanted the war stopped
That son-of-a-bitch Van bin Owen blew transmissions lines over
Roland the holhol eater...
Roland the holhol eater...
Ukraine best fed cat
Time, time, time
For another peaceful war
But time stands still for Roland
'Til he evens up the score
They can still see his furry body stalking through the night
In the Glowing eyes of Roland's the holhol eater
In the muzzle flash of Every grad rocket
Roland searched the continent for the man who'd done the power in.
He found him in Ramadi in a whorehouse with a grin
Roland aimed his eyes - he didn't say a word
But he blew up Van bin Owen's body from there to Grozny
Roland the holhol eater...
Roland the holhol eater...
Ukraine best fed cat
still wandering through the night
Now it's two years later but he still keeps up the eating
In Yemen, in Lebanon, in Palestine and San san bernardino
Jihadist John heard the purr of Roland the Holhol eater and bought it
>>58990276
Consider it done.
>>58990392
is in reference to >>58988640
aleppo main rebel supply road is about to fall
>>58986906
Fukkin legend
....Probably needs to clean his pants after that though
>>58990392
holy hell, THANK YOU
this is one of my favorite songs, I was actually working on a Syrian version of the lyrics
>>58989523
Then what are we arguing about , everyone publicly going to back up the president, who wanted to send tons of weapons to rebels. The military didn't like it and made sure info got into the right hands.
>>58988760
впepeди плaнeты вceй
>>58990618
Some of the lines need work, but that is agood framework.
>>58989278
enough to know one thing, when a Jew is engaged in propaganda against the Jews, nothing good will come of it
>>58990719
y нaших кoшeк "нeт aнaлoгoв"
>>58990719
is this guy butthurt?
hes from lithuania so i assume he is
>>58989595
cont
In the Russian trade deficit, it's related a lot to Tourism. Turkey and Egypt are 2 importants destinations for Russian holidays (that also explain France, Cyprus and Thailand trade deficit).
If you consider a sharp decline of Russian tourism in Egypt (with the fear of terrorism), and in Turkey for political reason, it's roughly an amount of 7.5 billions $, which 50 to 75% may return into Russian economy (Crimea next year will be a top tourism for Russia, everything is already rented).
So you can expect out of it some dev. of the Russian tourism industry, with an effect on GDP that we can estimate to +0,6 0,8%.
That's how Russia economy may benefit after all from the sanctions and their counter sanctions.
I don;t think so
>>58988521>>58988640>>58988928
the same cat,
>>58990392
kek
>>58990618
For our slavic friends who may not know this song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvTv-I2Y390
>>58986906
fucking aimbots
>>58990994
If I had seen that photo I would of used it for >>58991098
>>58990994
>tfw there is immortal russian cat
He will kill all the enemies of Russia!
>>58990777
I think if nothing else, your dubs atleast confirm that you're right.
>>58990777
>enough to know one thing, when a Jew is engaged in propaganda against the Jews, nothing good will come of it
In a good or bad way?
>>58988952
Were it is coming from ?
>>58988607
I think a lot of us have been shilling that here for the past six months
you must be new
>>58990867
no, not relay
>>58990994>>58991169>>58991176
same cat, just chilling there
>"Today, the Turkic Council members-Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Turkey-have found a favorable climate to strengthen solidarity as well enhancing the existing economic and political cooperation among Turkic countries,"
http://www.dailysabah.com/politics/2015/12/21/4-turkic-nations-agree-to-strengthen-solidarity-to-enhance-economic-political-cooperation
>>58991255
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZgD89VYkVc
The original was a baked bean ad in the states.
>>58990509
You are also missing this male stripper/patriot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63O_M2H5amY
>>58989570
aww that's my post from last night
just a note: the last bit has nothing to do with the articles by Hersh
it's just a piece of news that was posted by Leith just as i was done dropping the fulltext
here's a new read
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world/article50919765.html
>What really happened to the U.S. train-and-equip program in Syria?
>>58990867
Nope that guy is of russian decent, he is a bro.
>>58990392
Owen is a brit/pol/ meme
>He didn't say a word
>But he pozzed Owens neghole from there to Pakistan
Also no
>Talking about the cat
chorus?
>>58991519
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHCLblefaL0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbD5cneb9C0
>>58991506
Russia getting BTFO again
Nice work you guys
>>58991506
>Crimea
I have a bad news for you
>>58991506
>Literally nothing of any significance
>>58991747
>Russia getting BTFO again
>Nice work you guys
Why, what happened?
>nothing
>not much
>nothing of importance
>>58986374
T-90 TOO BASED FOR TOW MISSILES
YYYYYYEEEEEESSSS PPPPPPPLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
:)))))))))))))))
>>58991098
>edition.cnn.com/2015/12/18/politics/russia-us-syria-talks-isis/index.html
It's quite fun watching these old vids, and noticing how much the 'enemy' Russians look so similar in the Nightcrawler thread tune/vid .
>>58991506
Aren't Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan already in the Eurasian Union with Russia?
>>58991506
article makes no hard claims whatsoever
what joint projects are they working on?
what's the status of that pipeline over the caspian?
literally nothing of value in this article for someone who's trying to get an insight of what these countries are up to
>>58987067
> give us Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad’s head on a platter – and we’ll call off the dogs of war in Ukraine.
Not sure USA even dare to ask for it. It's obvious Russia perfectly know that even USA doesn't have a real control over Ukraine, nevertheless the country is now 100% dependent on USA/EU. Not convinced ? See the video when Saakachvili receive a glass of water from Avakov. This was a warning to USA: "you are not in our country to rule it but to let us do what we want, and in exchange we bully Russia".
> with the added “sweetener» that the US and its European allies would lift economic sanctions off Russia.
Russia don't want the sanctions to be lifted, because it serves them well both politically and economically, in the long run.
They have repeatedly stated that they are not interested in discussion to lift or soften the sanctions: "If you've managed to impose those illegal sanctions, you'll find a way to lift them without asking us".
>>58991506
also reminder that turkey is rekindling diplomatic ties with israel
>>58991985
yes. they are in russia's sphere of influence. we want churkas back. pan-turkism.
>>58992017
>literally nothing of value in this article for someone who's trying to get an insight of what these countries are up to
You see, Turkey is pretty desperate for good news, so they blow this out of proportion. Can't talk about the civil war in Turkey all day, now can you?
>>58991747
You don't know what you're talking about. T*rks are pushing their retarded panturkic bullshit on Kazakhstan for decades now. It's the Eurasian Economic Union we're in. Russia pls don't annex.
>>58992114
>yes. they are in russia's sphere of influence. we want churkas back. pan-turkism.
And I want to fuck Melanie Winiger, lets see who gets lucky first.
>>58991514
Thanks bro.
I think this would never be authorized to be put on air in MSM in France.
>>58986374
>US supplied TOW missiles cant inflict enough damage on the T90
>>58991985
>>58992114
>pan-turkism.
>kazahstan
mongoloids - 66%
rusians - 20%
>>58991892
Those are all soviet satellites which are important to Russia's conquest of le New Soviet Union.
>>58992153
Shut of Kazakhstan. Turks are pissing off the Russians by having any sort of diplomatic relations with you guys.
>>58992153
Not a big fan of the Turks?
>>58991985
Kazahstan is. Kazah president was the guy who proposed union at first place. Kirgizstan wants to join but as far as i know we need to settle some stuff before they can join.
>>58992404
Just in case the Kazakhs try something, you have a handy break away region in the north.
>>58992099
Thanks. Any more especifics on the Israeli gas resources, and the construction of the pipeline ?
>>58992521
oh and btw I don't mean to be rude to any russians ITT. I appreciate you guys being here giving us your personal insight. no h8 and thank god we are able to do this in 2015. What a time to be alive.
>>58992410
>Those are all soviet satellites which are important to Russia's conquest of le New Soviet Union.
They are actually Russias retarded former colonies, most of them either have oil or work construction jobs in the Moscow area and don't give a shit about pan-turkism.
My question was, what kind of good job was done, and how Russia was btfo? Because form the article seems to be a lot of hot air and nothing substantial.
>>58992294
>Melanie Winiger
she has man-face. are you a closet faggot?
>>58991548
>What really happened to the U.S. train-and-equip program in Syria?
>>58986374
>ride to Palmyra
What the fuck is left?
How is former soviet republics that are 20 percent turkish somehow related to syria?
>>58992410
>Turks are pissing off the Russians by having any sort of diplomatic relations with you guys.
Oh please, T*rks already did that. If they think that "agreeing" with us to "strenghten solidarity to enhance cooperation" is going to affect how many trucks and t*rks get blown up in any way or how pissed of Russia is at them they must be even more retarded than I thought.
It's just their effort to sell their shit to us so it can find it's way to Russian market through Eurasian union.
>>58993237
They got involved once the invaders decided to cross them to reach the promise lands.
>>58992499
probably a ruskie living in the region. kazakhs who come to my university for education really love turkey and turks actually.
>>58992857
>What a time to be alive
Yeah a fine time.
>>58992884
Well local turks think all the turkic people will jump on Russia as soon as we will start killing turks.
Just like Ukraine were thinking all the europeans will jump on us because UKRAINEANS ARE ALSO EUROPEANS.
Personally i'l have a good laugh when picrelated guys will move to kick turkish ass.
>>58992836
So we all know that Russia is Turkey's main supplier of natural gas. We also know that the US is trying to BTFO Russia 24/7 365.
Read this and let me know if this clears things up a bit.
>>58986674
wtf man
i'm drunk
almost puked
wtf...
>>58993237
there is a cold war between russia and turkey because of syria if you havent noticed already.
>>58992525
>had a drink tea with cookies to the neighbors and think that something tore off from Russia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HpmXisAR74
>>58993377
>probably a ruskie living in the region. kazakhs who come to my university for education really love turkey and turks actually.
This must be hard for you know, but please trust me on this one, nobody loves Turks, nobody. Except for Germany of course.
>>58992499
Not at all. They are uncivilized and rude people. Think they're better than us cuz they raped their way into Yurup.
>>58993301
It still pisses off the Russians, and there's nothing they can do about it when NATO backs Turkey
>>58986674
I love cats.
>>58993537
>there is a cold war between russia and turkey because of syria if you havent noticed already.
Yes, we noticed that. We also noticed that you are losing.
>>58993566
lots of people like turks desu senpai.
>>58993593
confirmed ruskie living in kazakh land
Isn't every one bored of turk baiting, being baited by turks - who might not be turks, but interested people with vpns?
We have a useful turk (just like I am a somewhat semiuseful south african) and useful israeli's even. all this super mongol empire shite, and the this and the that.
can't we all just get along?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPMmC0UAnj0
>>58993669
and we lost what exactly? nothing so far. what about ruskies? a jet and some soldiers.
putin cant even publish whatever it is in the black box of the downed plane. i am actually really curious.
>>58993761
europeans of /pol/ are just too butthurt to have a good talk these days. whenever a turk writes something they all chimp out with deus vults and roaches whatever.
>>58993761
Why would anyone want to get along with ISIS?
>>58993566
>Except for Germany of course.
stop spreading lies
>>58993761
see the attitude? >>58993852
>>58993771
>and we lost what exactly? nothing so far.
Air access to Syria, large turf along the borders, you isolated yourselves within NATO, lucrative oil and gas deals, tourism, food export around a 1000+ oil trucks, and a lot of credibility. Did I miss something?
>>58993761
yes but the US stands by Turkey for obvious reasons and I truly believe that if we solve the Russian problem we can prosper more in the western world.
>russian pls move to western russia you will be better off
>>58993959
>implying its not true
>>58993566
>nobody loves Turks
Stop with your anectodal bullshit, absolutely nobody cares except for Germany and they have a legit reason, those people are literally out of a detroit hood.
>>58994032
Nobody loves Turks
>>58993959
He's right doe.
Also if everyone stopped replying to them they'd disappear, like mark.
>>58994083
I stand by the Turks
>>58993543
Another fancy video from a mongol comrade who live in Kazahstan and think that he is russian.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBYsa-1mksg
>>58993922
>stop spreading lies
Gemmer Döner essen?
>>58993712
This land is ours because of "ruskies". They drew up our borders and built our cities. They never conquered us and when we wanted it they granted us sovereignty. What you did for us? Built your retarded college where they brainwash Kazakhs into panturkism?
No one likes you. Kazakhs in Turkey are there for a reason. What do you expect them to say? Fuck off dumb roach.
>>58994100
You are a turk though.
>>58994100
t*rk detected
>>58993712
Why is it that you think only the Russians hate you? I think just about everyone here who has read Turkish posts understand where he is coming from.
let's take some time to admire the SU-34 the sexiest airplane ever made
>>58989278
There are Serbian subs if you know Serbian.
>>58994157
>>58994158
No I live in rural MN on a farm.
>>58994157
>>58994158
>assmad euro nobodies who can barely show syria on the map
Good job, you made me shitpost again.
anyone has taken a close look to VILLA qatari??
seems a comfy place to defend,
south of palmyra
>>58994191
looks even better shot out of the air by Turkey
>>58993995
kek. oil trade in which apparently whole middle east is tied including assad and ypg (sworn enemies of isis). turkey wasnt conducting anything in syria for a while now, we are more interested in iraq due to pkk reasons. implying nato didnt approve this act of turkey at all, we just showed everyone that ruskies arent immortal.
economy can be handled, russia cant even turn the gas valve off and can only sanction some tomatoes etc.
these are not valid points. russia is confirmed paper tiger and as we can see, cant invade the turkish space anymore. they just needed a spank to head.
>>58994029
its not.
>>58994191
It is a very handsome plane. It looks deadly.
>>58994210
>I live in america therefor i can't be a turk
nice logic.
>>58993712
let's talk about Kazakhstan, Turkeyisnotbro, ask a Kazakh who is the greatest man of his people? I wonder what he will say?
>>58994203
>if you know Serbian.
>>58994281
I own guns and have white skin
>>58994303
Wasn't Zhirinovsky born in Kazakhstan? I don't know any real Kazakhs though.
>>58994241
Wonder how much water is wasted on that.
>>58994167
i dont think only the russians hate us and never claimed it. i ve met several kazakhs and they seem to like turkey, at least this is what they say. they also claim most kazakhs also like turkey etc.
>>58994141
why would they lie? its just a conversation between two, they can easily say "i hate it here".
>>58994396
probably most of it
>>58993852
>>58993959
See I saw the vidya today of the cops killing that pretty girl. It means that turkey is in the grips of some serious shit. But that does not mean all turks are gun toting coppers, it does not mean that we have to stupid and lose the perspective that turkey bro's can offer.
Probably, if we all refuse to be baited, we can have a convo - turkey is in the midst of some serious shit, shooting where a normal state has peace, war on it's borders, and a crazy man at the helm. This does not mean all Turks are like crazy pretty girl killing cops. We are undermining ourselves by this shit. We can be honest about what folks are doing without accusing each other of being like erdogan or some other crazy shit. etc etc tl;dr etc
Can't we all just get along?.
>>58994259
Im sure them being held up at your border all supplied and hunkered down has nothing to do with you're islam loving govorment
>>58994366
it has nearly 20 million speakers mate.
Plus a lot of them emigrated to Canada and Sweden in 80s, 90s
it's not that far fetched to be honest.
>>58994383
he is also a jew i guess. its at least what writes on the wikipedia.
>>58994191
This is undisputedly the sexiest plane ever made. Shame they ditched the project. But it did not go to waste as its technology was integrated into the f- 35.
>>58994501
There are quite a few Serbs here and in Australia, although more Croatians, but if you knew croatian then serb subtitles would be fine.
>>58993440
Are ukrainians and turks related?
>>58994383
oh ... no, the question for the Kazakhs, let's see what he will say
>>58994539
And another
>>58994259
Well, I am happy if you are happy. If you think that things are going well for turkey, than I will not disagree.
From my point of view it just looked like you are losing all strategic advantages in that war and are literally locked inside Turkey while Russia bombs the living shit out of the Rebels and Turkmens. But hey, as I said, as long as you are happy, everything is fine.
>>58994435
death of that girl is literally a bad accident. happens all the time in america and no one cares a bit. happens once in turkey and suddenly there is a civil war in turkey.
its just this place a stupid deus vult circle jerk. when i first got here i thought this place was literally politically incorrect. instead its a kindergarten with adults circle jerking and not letting other opinions in.
>>58994444
nice quads but that aint true.
>>58994253
Wrong plane, this was the one that got shot down.
>>58994618
>There are quite a few Serbs here and in Australia, although more Croatians, but if you knew croatian then serb subtitles would be fine.
Xcept that Croats write in Latin and Serbs in Cyrillic.
>>58993229
Aleppo, Raqqa, all around Damascus, parts of Latakia...
Remember, we're here forever.
>>58994129
honestly, i cant stand this stuff
might have to do with the fact that i once got pretty drunk as a youth and people were like yo, you gotta eat something, so we got kebab
and since then it all went downhill kek
it looks so cozy
>>58994790
>not knowing cyrillic
>>58994723
they all look better shot out of the air by turkey
>>58994672
actually i feel fine and i feel as if nothing had changed at all. it d be better if this didnt happen of course because i dont want a war in my country. not because i wont do whatever my duty is, but i am a pro-peace person basically. unless you are defending your own country i believe war is just murder.
majority of the turkey wants the syria policy to change because we dont want syrians in our lands anymore. yeah we looked after them for 3 years now but its enough. you guys always cry about germany getting 800k immigrants. well guess what turkey has 2m of them and so called civilized humanitarian europe doesnt give a two dime about it unless they pour to their own land.
turkey isnt locked inside as well we are conducting heavy bombing runs in iraq past couple of weeks against pkk. and if you really believe turkey cares about bunch of turkmens you are delusional. its just a reason to get involved in syria for turkey.
>>58994417
>why would they lie? its just a conversation between two, they can easily say "i hate it here".
I guess the place might seem nice to a guy from rural Kazakhstan.
>i ve met several kazakhs and they seem to like turkey, at least this is what they say. they also claim most kazakhs also like turkey etc.
Of course most Kazakhs don't hate t*rks. Why would they? But get us in /sg/ and see what happens. Also, we like Russians more.
>>58994303
>ask a Kazakh who is the greatest man of his people?
That's a trick question. It's our glorious leader Nursultan Nazarbayev.
>>58994988
what is /sg/ i dont even know that.
>>58994907
>c*ck
>>58994501
caмoe глaвнoe чтo poccия любит cepбoв, и cepбы любят poccиy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMm62EX0--o
>>58994907
Found the turkroach
>>58995061
That's where you shitpost about sending more jets to violate you. Syria general.
>>58995063
and you are a cuck of putin. you are an american, you should support whats most beneficial for your country. not for some other country. i really dont get this mindset.
>>58995136
i shit post rarely. only if there is a k*rd in the thread to create butthurt thats it.
>>58995142
Russia and trump's US joined together would uncuck the west and remove Turkey from NATO
>>58995092
>still thinking I'm turksish
m8 Russia getting btfo is actually a good think for America
>>58994633
Well, just some border cossack tribes, they bit related to golden horde.
Majority of ukraineans are not related to them, just russians in denial.
Dont tell i said that to any ukraineans tho, they take turk/mongol as a huge insult.
We sometimes mock them like that kek.
And crimean tatars are whole another story, they are turks in denial. But after what Katherine did, Stalin did and Hitler did, they are almost gone.
>>58995142
Its just common sense that even americans would support Russia. Why would they want to continue funding terrorists that kill innocents?
>>58994988
God, you have disappointed me, I was talking about the greatest who is known by any Kazakh, this man's name is Timur, or Tamerlane, anyone who is even slightly acquainted with the history know who it is ... and Turkish friends remind you the role he played in the history of your country?
>>58994790
Actually we write in both.
We are taught both cyrillic and latin alphabets in school for our language.
Even the exercises are split usually, some in latin, some in cyrillic.
Teachers write in whatever they want usually.
Both scripts were officially used by the state until 2006/2007 when they changed it to cyrillic only.
I doubt much has changed though or that they stopped teaching latin script.
They were taught cyrillic in croatia as well until the war, and even today there are cyrillic boards and documentation and shit in areas were serbs are the majority or used to be a majority.
They only pretend they can't read it.
>>58987231
We. Don't. Have. Allies.
We may have pawns and temporary alliances like in the world wars, but any decent Russian leader (most of them) since like forever trusted no one. "Russia has only two allies - the army and the navy".
Assad can just die and rot for all we care, it's a business issue about that pipe, nothibg personal
>>58995289
>implying russia and us is ever getting together
dude this is an impossible dream for even the most childish and autist person. do you really actually believe usa is getting married with russia just because putin and trump sucked each others cock in a couple of occasions.
lately i really started to think presidents for usa doesnt even matter at all. there is an agenda of the usa, determined maybe idk 60 years ago? and they are still applying it to the world.
>>58995295
this american gets it. would russia really help out usa if it needed even if trump and putin start a stupid circlejerk? no never, russia will do whatever it can to stop the usa in every single occasion. politics is a lie, no one ever tells truth, there are no enemies, no friends, only conflicting interests.
>>58995142
I don't support funders of terrorism, roach
>>58995348
because of this >>58995517
>>58995078
The first song is Mars na Drinu with the Russian Empire flag :D
Yeah I saw this
There was in the news too a huge graffiti done with the face of the fallen russian pilot
It ended up on Russian State News as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=QN77dt5xR90
>>58995525
then you should go to galapagos island. i am sure they dont support terrorists there as well. but every other nation on earth is tied with terrorists in one way or another.
you guys really need to start to accept the fact that there is no moral high ground. we are all in neck deep shit.
>>58995523
why are turks so autistic
>>58993771
tbqh, if you've seen the memory chips of the black box, you understand it's going to be very hard to take something out of it.
Just saw a snapshot of one side of the circuit board, but on the 8 memory chips, 5 are completely destroyed and the 3 other seems to be also bended / broken. To strip something out of this, you need an electron microscope. Not something you can do in the weekend.
I don't think what's left of the blackbox is exploitable. Even, with such damage, anyone could say the integrity of the extracted data can't be guaranteed.
So I think this is a dead end: parole against parole.
>>58995523
>this american gets it. would russia really help out usa if it needed even if trump and putin start a stupid circlejerk? no never, russia will do whatever it can to stop the usa in every single occasion. politics is a lie, no one ever tells truth, there are no enemies, no friends, only conflicting interests.
exactly
>>58995703
and where is autism in my post? g.w. bush was getting along quite good with putin too, look what happened really.
>>58995289
>trump
he is a joke candidate. if americans actually elect him that election will be called starting point of fall of usa supremacy by future historians. he is talking about recognizing superpower status of a country which has smaller economy than south korea.
Fresh map.
http://warontherocks.com/2015/12/time-to-focus-on-the-wars-within-the-war-against-the-islamic-state/
>Time to Focus on the Wars Within the War Against the Islamic State
http://www.timesofisrael.com/islamic-state-lost-14-of-its-territory-in-2015-thinktank/
>Islamic State lost 14% of its territory in 2015
>>58995703
They don't need a reason, they just are
>>58995599
Even if I am to take that russian seriously, temporary alliances are still better than funding terrorist cells to distabalize entire govorments and then pour gasoline into the fire.
>>58993844
>>58993852
>>58993959
>>58994020
>>58994100
>>58994157
>>58994158
I don't know if you have been included in the list above properly. If you feel you have been included wrongly, please accept my apology.
We run the risk of making the mistake that we are dealing with our worst feared entity when we see flags. I'm not saying flags is bad, because flags is good.
But, and I speak under correction, that Turkey as a nation has decided that it's citizens may not use or go to 4CHINS.
What does this mean?
It means, literally (proper use of the word), that every Turk who posts here, has 1) changed his DNS, 2) broken some stupid law in his country that says 4CHINS is ebilbad, 3)that most Turks who post are progs in their communities.
They potentially, and I have no idea how bad the threat is, face some kinf of legal intercourse as a result of being on 4CHINS.
Please ignore the trolls, esp if all they can manage is a picture of a burning plane or some other such.
I hope the queen of ingland and the pope and the ayatollah recognise me as a saint for my efforts. and dmmit if they don't then I'm gonna start my own religion and make them! kek.
>>58995714
it can be some ruse black box too. maybe they decoded the actual black box and it supports the turks. according to /pol/ turks always lie, why wouldnt russians as well if the lie is going to support their interests?
>>58995682
wow thats amazing, i havent seen this yet. You guys are great, i have always supported you, and will keep doing so.
>>58995767
>if americans actually elect him that election will be called starting point of fall of usa supremacy by future historians.
because he wants to stop illegal immigration?
>>58995788
so aleppo gun be taken by the US/Turkey/West
we win again, suck it Putin dicksuckers
>>58995362
Ghenghis was greater than Emir Timur, sorry. Are you a Tatar?
>>58995523
Oh finally someone on pol understanding what the hell politics is about and hayooo it's a Turk. Are you sick of the ideological circlejerk here too ?
>>58995867
>implying germany, france, sweden, england, greece, syria, iraq, iran, netherlands, usa, china etc. never ever funded terrorists
eh.
>>58986906
BASED driver!!
http://www.vocativ.com/news/263295/its-not-just-isis-there-are-65000-other-jihadists-in-syria
>It’s Not Just ISIS: There Are 65,000 Other Jihadists In Syria
https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/679063449691901952
>Darayya Photo taking by Activist showing #SAA ZSU-23-4 Shilka & Caged Bulldozer south of #Moadamyeh
>>58995963
I feel as if you are a Russian, on an American website, you support the west and not NECESSARILY Putin
>>58995951
>Emir Timur
I don't know Tamerlan defeated way more organized and effective armies.
Genghis Khan wasn't faced with such strong enemies, organized and effective armies to be honest.
Also I'm a bit biased since he liked us.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ankara
> Serbian Prince Stefan Lazarević and his knights together with Wallachian forces successfully fought off the Timurid assaults and cut through the Mongol ranks three times. Each time Stefan advised Bayezid to break out with him but Bayezid repeatedly declined to do so, resulting in the proud and stubborn sultan being captured after a lengthy resistance. But the Serbians managed to save one of Bayezid's sons and the treasury from the Mongols and made their way to Constantinople. The Serbian troops wore heavy black plate armour which were very effective against the Timurid arrows. Timur admired the Serbian troops who according to him "fight like lions".
>>58996116
I have no idea what you've just said. It's probably my English skills.
>>58995703
curse of tengri man. when we abandon our pagan belives the shamans curse the nation to become unsucesfull and degenerate. hungary and turkey fuking cursed.
>>58986512
holy sweet kek my sides have mercy
>>58991747
>im a turk who lives in the US
>>58996260
If you're on an American website, regardless of you nationality, you support the west, in my personal opinion.
>>58996277
Bulgaria and burglars as well in that case.
>>58995963
yeah i am. i really thought this place was actually politically incorrect and i wanted to learn more. instead the onlything i saw was anti-"anti-extreme right wing". people dont get in every single ideology and idea has a use. even learning what "not to do" is a valuable thing. but this kind of attitude really makes me think this place is stupid.
i remember i wasnt this nationalistic before i got to this place. but i didnt become nationalistic after i started to read shit over here because i believed my nation was above all. i became nationalistic because you people constantly remind me that i am a turk etc etc. so i started to think, "fuck them, there is nothing wrong about being a turk".
>>58995880
nothing really happens because you get onto a site even if it is illegal in turkey really. i live in a university which uses TUBİTAK, the national science academy whatever as its ISP and its a government establishment, meaning it is directly tied to erdogan. and even TUBİTAK doesnt care about internet bans and doesnt apply twitter / youtube / 4chin ban or whatnot. only some couple of pr0n sites are not accessible.
>>58996386
This is a chink website now, your theory is invalid.
>>58995975
>All the cool kids did it, must be ok then
Most of those countries are already paying for it. As for your puppet govorment, Obongo must be promising you many mosques to actually try and help them fund terrorists.
>>58989651
Dumb fuck. If they close the strait, they declare a war. Officially.
Let them do that, I would surely enjoy hearing about Turkshits in history books only.
>>58996257
bayezid was a really proud fuck. his proudness alone made him lose the war against timur. also some turkish historians claim timur was a tactical genius etc. as well.
>>58995898
> too much conspiracy theories kill conspiracy theory.
Anyway your explanation looks illogical: if Russia was about providing fake evidence, why damaging the box at such a point everyone can see it'll be unexploitable ?
A "redacted" black box would have had only a few scratches, not much.
Lots of video today - nice.
>VIDEO........http://pastebin.com/hVRCFb83
>>58995948
i am talking about foreign policies. sucking putins dick and stuff. a sociopath with nukes is much more dangerous than some durka durkas with ak-47s. and about immigration any president will stop it if they believe it damages economy. so far it hasnt. immigration keeps wages low and let usa compete with china. trump is unlikely to stop it too. he may be populist but he understands how business works.
>>58996456
russia also supported terrorism in turkey a lot in the past. its not about "all the cool kids do it". its about conflicting interests and that there is no moral high ground in the "world of nations".
to be quite honest, if it means the well being of and if it increases the overall welfare of turkey, whole world can burn, i wouldnt care less.
>>58995951
All who I knew Kazakhs consider him the greatest of their ancestors, Tatars are trying cling to Genghis Khan and Timur but they are just conquered peoples.
>>58996386
> your post is a spam
>>58996645
so the entire basis for your argument of the USA falling out of power is because Trump and Putin don't hate each other.
