if you have zero experience with an actual foreign language you are completely retarded to think you can actually contribute to /pol/ and you should gtfo.
>inb4 but i took a semester in spanish
spanish, french, german, etc are just english with a slightly different accent and grammar
>actual FOREIGN languages
- russian
- arabic
- chinese (shit-tier, tho)
irregardless of how busy you perceive yourself in your daily life, you should learn a new language at least every couple of years.
if trains your brain more than anything else. most real polyglots are also geniuses in other areas because their brains were subjected to merciless gains with every new language.
oh, did you know that russian.rt.com shows a completely different world than the english rt?
same for aljazeera
>inb4 google translate
what is video?
what are speeches by politicians?
what are non-translatable expressions?
what is reading between the lines, which gets lots in 95% of the translations?
what is real life with no google translate?
i never understood putin's speeches in the original (like 99% of all of /pol/), all i ever got were translations and press releases. until one day, i decided to learn russian. i deliberately stopped watching any of his public appearances. after a few months, when i felt solid in russian, i played one of his old speeches i once watched but never understood.
oh my
>tfw you will never know the feel of finally understand someone
>tfw you still believe the actual literal words matter, while in reality 90+% is the choice and placement of words in connection with body language
sry if my english sucks but for the past months i've been immersing myself in something you would consider "moonrunes" or some shit
>>>56718832
>mfw /pol/ is providing me with live proof that i am right
look what he wrote
>Even google translator cant decipher this shit
>Tail vpemeni pepevodit tekct . Clyzhy in 76th - decantno shtypmovoy Division, 6th pota . Ppyamo ceychac poctypil ppikaz cvephy o podgotovke to boevym deyctviyam . Hikto nichego ne znaet , dazhe ofitsepy . Chact complies with applicable pepegnali Po - moemy nA pepekpacky .
>Chepez H of the filling can podpobnocti are played . B PHOTO kachectve ppyfa of BMP in kotopoy I edy .
>>56722921
You used the word it regardless you gtfo
>>56722921
Irregardless
>>56722921
>spanish, french, german, etc are just english with a slightly different accent and grammar
I'm not really surprised to see such a retard statement from a German.
Do you even know the classification of languages ?
>>56723089
Even my phone is not dumb enough to let me type that out
>>56722921
It's true, a translation can never be the same as the original words. A translated book is not the same book.
>learning russian
For what purpose?
>>56722921
I'm fluent in Spanish but I would trade it all for some knowledge in a technical skill or fluency in a programming language. Let's face it, there's no benefit to learning any language but English in the modern world, except to impress a woman
>>56722921
>irregardless
Looks like you should learn English first.
>>56722921
Eating Turk cum isn't the same thing as learning Arabic, Hun
>>56722921
Politics transcend languages.
Therefor your argument is invalid.
>>56722921
Ich bampe an diese Chimpanzeen.
>>56722921
>kraut learning Arabic, English, and Russian
Already preparing to accept defeat by one of your enemies
>>56723089
>>56723135
>>56723314
>>56723198
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless
>The most frequently repeated remark about it is that “there is no such word.”
>There is such a word, however.
amerolingual burger BTFO with his own language
>>56723170
learn russian, arabic or chinese and you will realize that learning french is a joke compared to those three (and most of the asian languages desu).
btw, compare these two sentences:
>english
This is my boat
>german
Das ist mein Boot
>even french tbqh fäm
Ceci est mon bateau
>now compare it with russian
этo мoя лoдкa
>arabic
هذا قاربي
>>56723257
pic related
I can speak both chinese(mandarin and Cantonese) and English but my life still sucks
>>56722921
You have convinced me that Germans are bigger keks than Swedes.
>>56723676
Mate, I speak fluent arabic and I'm learning russian for one year and half, now, you think you can teach me anything about languages ? Fuck off.
You obviously don't know shit about linguistics and you're just shitposting to try to ignore the syrian refugees plowing your daughter's rectum in the next room.
Thank god I know Japanese from all of my cartoon watching and katana wielding (which has been folded over 1000 times mind you).
>>56723683
BASED
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>>56722921
>spanish, french, german, etc are just english with a slightly different accent and grammar
Just fucking kill yourself.
>>56723862
>I speak fluent arabic
"refugee" and/or 3rd-generation-GIMMIGRANT detected
>I'm learning russian for one year and half
>implying length means ANYTHING
>implying there isn't millions of millenials that have been taking german for 10 years and when i ask them to tell me something they say "oh hehe, i'm not *that* far yet"
also
>implying i am talking about linguists (= masturbating to cases and declinations) instead of polyglots (= just using languages as a tool and actually having other purposes in life)
>>56722921
I contribute to /pol/ by being alive reading and distributing actual facts on current news affairs.
>>56724212
latin based languages are all way to similiar to be called a "foreign" language - it is more like dialects
>>56724212
i might have phrased that poorly, i'm not implying english is the mother-of-all-languages, rather that since /pol/ is an english-speaking board, i used that as a starting point for comparison with other european languages
the point still stands and someone has yet to disprove it
>>56722921
speak for yourself nigger
>>56722921
Im fucking a German girl, how's that for foreign experience?
>>56722921
I always wanted to learn Russian. Do you learn online or did you buy a book?
I never travel outside of Canada so I only need French and English
>>56722921
>Chinese
>shit tier
>Arabic
>not shit tier
Get out of germoney you fucking kebab
>>56722921
Stay cuxd goymoney
Speaking hebrew english and russian fluently.
Russian and hebrew as mother tounge, English as foreign language.
My language skills are very high and due to the need to do translation of language so often Im doing it in the speed of light, kind of thinking in both (or three) language at the same time.
Pretty cool skill, made my thinking and response time much faster.
>>56724719
>>56724670
>>56723386
nothing sweeter than amerolinguals shitposting out of spite without being able to disprove my point
>tfw you are at a natural disadvantage to europeans/asians/african that learn at least 2-3 without even trying due to geopolitical location of their countries
>>56724303
Your arguments are so stupid, that's unbelievable.
>"refugee" and/or 3rd-generation-GIMMIGRANT detected
I'm of palestinian descent, my family is french for decades. So what ?
>>implying length means ANYTHING
Of course, time is a major factor of learning a new language, because your muscles need to adapt to the new sounds and because practice is proportional to time. I'm not talking about highschoolers choosing a foreign language because they have to, I'm learning russian on my own will...
>>implying i am talking about linguists (= masturbating to cases and declinations) instead of polyglots (= just using languages as a tool and actually having other purposes in life)
When you say french, english, spanish and german are the same language with different accent, your argument is based on linguistics, period. Just because it's blatantly wrong doesn't allow you to pretend that's not what you were saying.
>>56725035
Fuck off, we don't want you in Europe, motherfucker.
>>56725084
Hey
We don't want him here either.
He's your problem
>>56723302
Just like anything mate - crawl, walk, run.
Someone tell me the best method to learn russian.. I would like to understand hacking forums
>>56725035
>When you say french, english, spanish and german are the same language with different accent, your argument is based on linguistics, period. Just because it's blatantly wrong doesn't allow you to pretend that's not what you were saying.
no, it is also based on usability (= arguments coming from polyglots), because if you speak at least two roman langs, eg french and spanish, you pretty much speak italian. i wouldn't call it speaking 3 languages though.
>my family is french for decades
more like "despised by french for decades"
>>56725084
Top kek.
I don't care what you want, Belgium.
I'm here, and I'm grateful to France (not Europe) to have given me access to an education and to civilization. Now, I try to give back by helping french society. If, at one time, I have to leave, I will, don't worry.
>>56725138
:^)
>>56722921
Yes, it's good to speak the language of your bull for he would never degrade himself by speaking in your tongue.
>>56724484
It's called history and geography.
There's a reason the languages you mentioned as 'good' haven't had as much Western influence injected into them - up until recently they were irrelevant except for small blips on the timeline.
>>56722921
>Arabic
That's interesting.
how old are you?
why would you learn Arabic?
how long did it take you to become "fluent"?(no you will never be fluent. im more fluent in English than fus'ha Arabic myself)
what languages are you planning to learn next and why.
also sort the languages you stated above from easier to harder.
>>56725304
>no, it is also based on usability (= arguments coming from polyglots), because if you speak at least two roman langs, eg french and spanish, you pretty much speak italian. i wouldn't call it speaking 3 languages though.
Oh, so now you're using language classification, which is a linguistics notion, to prove your point about language classification not existing, which was, according to you, not a linguistics argument ?
You weren't talking about french/spanish/italian, you were talking about german/english/french/spanish. You're plain retarded. Enjoy getting railed by syrian dick.
>>56725190
American student abroad in Russia right now..
Best way to learn is to come here
>>56722921
Hi faggot, I know French, Latin, Koine Greek, and Italian. Currently learning Russian and Serbian. Enjoy prepping the refugees.
>>56722921
I can speak fluent Spanish and some Dutch.
Dutch is like a hilarious version of English, though so I can argue it's not a real language.
Also, who gives a fuck, English is the only language that actually matters. Anybody worth speaking to in the world speaks english. I only learned Dutch because they all speak excellent English.
I need to learn Arabic or Mandarin for what? Any person worth discussing business with from those shitholes speaks English. I don't need to learn to speak a fucking single word of any language besides English and I only know Spanish because of my childhood and I learned Dutch because I thought it would be fun.
If you cannot say what you mean in English, you're message is fucking worthless anyways and instantly discarded, Spanish, Dutch, or whatever else.
>>56722921
>you should learn a new language at least every couple of years.
ogo, go to huy, its imposibly
>>56723676
Did you even read the dictionary you just quoted? Literally says to use regardless instead because "irregardless" makes you look like a dipshit since no one uses it. You can go around the world saying "senpai" out loud too, but that doesn't mean you're speaking proper English.
Fucking idiot.
>>56725084
>romania
>we don't want you in Europe
keké memé maté
but I just learnt to meme and besides I'm sure the STEM fags/Google will automate translation to perfection real time skullbeamed real soon
>irregardless
/pol/ is so right wing you're just testing the waters
>>56725498
SPb or Moscow?
>>56722921
>preaching about 'knowing' language(s)
>irregardless doesn't a word you buffoon
Well this has got to be the most aggressive pitch to buy rosetta stone i've ever seen
>>56725438
i'm not fluent. i'm currently learning. but shit is hard and this /pol/ thread is my place to vent.
>>56725485
my point was that if someone is speaking to you in french you might understand something, and if you have minimal experience with the language you will understand the gist
whereas arabic or russian will take you a shitload of time until you are being able to differenciate between somebody explaining what the gross domestic product is from him telling you he fucked your sister
>>56725526
Idi na hui tvarish
Not impossible. Quite doable. Fluency in a few years is *almost* impossible but virtually anyone can become competent in a language after like two years
>>56725523
Nederlands geen taal? Wat is je probleem man.
Ik zal je moeder is een grappig taaltje laten spreken
Russian is derived from indo european the same way as german, french or spanish
just lol at OP trying to make russian a tough alie language just because he learned it and can now speak it poorly
as some have said OP has no knowledge of linguistics and his post should be completely disregarded
>>56725710
>rosetta stone
what's wrong with rosetta stone?
>>56725682
Neither, Khakassia
>>56722921
>foreign language
>any language not your native language
>>56725816
Actually I'll amend that - any language except Finnish, Hungarian, Basque and a few others. Hungarian is absurdly difficult.
>>56725710
>>56725886
I like Rosetta Stone but the access of DuoLingo is nice. Being able to whip out the phone and practice anywhere anytime is handy.
>germany advocating learning arabic and russian
I see the germoney kuck maymay holds true, even of the ones on /pol/
Also, I don't speak anything but english because english rules the world and I get the luxury of not needing any other languages. It's the rest of you that have to bend the knee and learn MY language to stay relevant.
I speak 4 languages english german portugese and spanish so fuck off about your, "they are all simular." Bullshit i learnt languages that apply to my life
>>56725840
>>Nederlands geen taal?
>>Wat is je probleem man
>>What is your problem, man?
Ik hou van nederlandse taal, maar het is te veel Engels.
I mostly just learned Dutch has the most amazing swearwords of any language. Je moeder is een kankerslet, ect.
>>56726234
are you serious or is this a meme post?
because those languages are literally what someone would use as examples to refer to languages that seem different but are pretty much the same لول
>>56726264
>ja du bist uns deutschen überlegend.
>>56725791
i'm currently learning German as well btw :^)
not that difficult since i speak English and French
>Egnlish vocabulary
>French pronouns and tenses
>throw that verb at the end of the sentence
>...???
>German
>>56726264
Dutch is great to curse in m8. However I am one of those rare Dutchies that never says Kanker
>>56725816
May be you are right and im just lazy, tOvarish
>>56725903
>Khakassia
Lol, American in respublic Khakasia, very funny. How do ypu like Syberia?
just jack in and speak in binary, plebs
>>56722921
>German thinks because his country is the epitome of multicultarism that everyone must follow under his countries example.
Although while being foreign languages to English, he disregards to common European languages due to his inclined hatred of the culture that once previously lived within Europa.
Proceeds to list shit tier languages that only really work within the confides of the countries that they originate within, calling us not fit to post on /pol/ if we don't try to understand this culture of xenophobic cultural countries.
Might you be A Turk or perhaps a Jew OP?
Regardless of the nationality, you have a serious case of Liberal Double Think.
My recommendation is to get up and leave /pol/ in favor a board that agrees with your opinions and your lifestyles tastes.
Since you are German and most likely enjoy fur porn, may I direct you to the trash board where you can have your opinion, and wack off to anthropromorphized animals.
>>>/trash/
Cheers OP!
>>56723676
>learn russian
Done, It's not that hard, French is harder.
>>56726457
It's cool, I've been here almost 3 months. Leaving in a few weeks though. There are 2 other Americans here as well
>>56724899
Get a load of this try hard faggot. Not a soul cares enough to provide the rustling you're looking for. Try reddit you fail of a troll.
>>56726264
>ect
>>56722921
I'm studying Japanese desu desu
>>56724373
That's the stupudest fucking thing I've read today.
>>56722921
>irregardless
So much for merciless gains. Maybe too merciless for your dummkopf, Hans
>>56722921
i speak 8 languages but they all make complete sense the reason.
i get pretty pissed when people say "i want to learn a language!" and then when asked why they arent trying, they just go "Im too busy!!"
fuck you, then.
>>56726611
Mdr bon blague petit con, français c'est beaucoup plus facile que russe. Il est possible que tu sois autistique.
I've been in Sweden (dirty slav immigrant) for almost 6 years now and still struggle every now and then. But then again I struggle mainly because I study economics in swedish language at a university.
>>56726439
>>never says kanker
Why? That's what's great about Dutch swearing, you can make anything 3 times as offensive by throwing kanker in there somewhere.
>>56726372
It's not that serious. I had a college professor claim Ebonics was a separate language from english as a derivative, like English is a derivative of Dutch or German or Latin.
I know some German but could never get down the articles. Some Germanfag told me to say 'du' for everything but I mostly got laughed at so I just use English in Germany.
>>56726620
Good luck, winter is alredy here.
>>56727308
Toвapищ, кaк тeбe их yнивepcитeт? У мeня дpyг-экoнoмиcт хoчeт пoeхaть тyдa, yчить вeнчypныe инвecтиции. Чeгo вac тaк тянeт к швeдaм :\
>>56727214
that being said, OP is a bit retarded. fuck off OP.
>>56727233
Фpaнцyc хyeв, иди нaхyй бaгeт жpaть cвoй co вкycoм джихaдa. Фpaнцycкий "лeгчe", пиздa двoя лeгчe.
>>56727308
>university-educated
>recognizes the importance of the local language
>gives his best to learn it
>recognizes his roots and his place in swedish society
i wouldn't call you dirty, you are a good immigrant
>>56727308
what slav?
polska?
>>56722921
>irregardless
>>56727536
>Фpaнцyc хyeв, иди нaхyй бaгeт жpaть cвoй co вкycoм джихaдa. Фpaнцycкий "лeгчe", пиздa двoя лeгчe.
Tu te fâches пиздa? Les musulmans vont envahir Finland après Sweden. Moi je vais rester en USA avec mes pistolets et hamburgers quand tu seras en train d'embrasser le cul de Mohammad
>The greatest problem in communication is the illusion that it has been accomplished
Daniel W Davenport
>>56727501
Meня вooбщe мaть вытaщилa cюдa, я пoчти нe имeл пpaвa cлoвa. Ужe нe знaю гдe лyчшe тeпepь - жить в cтpaнe нa пopoгe вoйны или в cтpaнe, кoтopaя yжe в cocтoянии вoйны втopoй гoд (нo зaтo хoть вce cвoи, cлaвянe, мaть их зa нoгy).
Унивepcитeт хopoший. He ivy league кoнeчнo, нo и нe нaши зaбopocтpoитeльныe. Booбщe ecли чecтнo я yжe в poт eбaл этy экoнoмикy, хoчy чтo-нибyдь пoлeгчe yчить. Tyт тaкиe книжeчки читaeм чтo нe вce швeды вpyбaютcя, кyдa yж мнe тaм.
He знaю чтo твoeмy дpyгy пocoвeтoвaть, пoтoмy чтo cитyaция в cтpaнe cтaнoвитcя интepecнee c кaждым днeм (бoльшaя чacть мeмcoв нe вpeт, yвы).
>>56727822
Imma he honest, I have no thing else.
I'm not very clever man, I cannot make jokes rapidly.
>>56727975
No worries m8. It's cool that you know Russian. I'm not that good at it yet.
>>56727214
I am sorry we didn't acknowledge your cognitive prowess. Keep it up anon, ten languages milestone is nigh. It's a small club and it is sure worth joining.
>>56727911
Зaбыл cкaзaть, чтo я c Укpaины, хoтя этo и тaк пoнятнo нaвepнoe.
>>56727911
Tы ж мoжeшь, нaвepнoe, в любyю cтpaнy eвpoпы пoeхaть, ecли 6 лeт yжe живeшь.
>>56722921
>germany
>A nation that refuses to learn basic english just to feel superior
>bitching about knowing languages
Fuck you you moslem wannabe. I have never met a german so far that could competently handle a talk not in his mothertongue
>>56727911
A oткyдa ты? Кaкoгo этo 6 лeт пpoжить имигpaнтoм?
>>56722921
>engaging in rote memorization helps critical thinking skills even in the slightest
Yeah naw. When English becomes universally spoken a few hundred years from now, it will only be a good thing.
>>56727911
Hy вpoдe вcё нaлaживaeтcя? Sweden - NO и т. д. A y нac вcё дeйcтвитeльнo интepecнo, дo мoбилизaции pyкoй пoдaть.
>>56722921
puši kurac
> :)
>>56728302
>дo мoбилизaции pyкoй пoдaт
Oй нe пизди.
>>56728277
>rote memorization
amerilinguals, everyone
protip: if that's how you're learning languages, you're doing it very wrong
わたしはだいがくでにほんごのがくせいです、でも漢字をかきません。いちねんせいですよ。
That's the best I can care to muster at the moment.
>>56728118
Moгy, нo вoт нa нoги вcтaть нaдo cнaчaлa. A мнe eщe 2 гoдa yчитьcя в лyчшeм cлyчae.
>>56728153
Дa хyй знaeт, cтpaннo. Я чyвcтвyю ceбя нaпoлoвинy швeдoм и нaпoлoвинy yкpaинцeм. He вce тoнкocти мecтнoгo мeнтaлитeтa пoддepживaю, нo и c бывшими зeмлякaми нe мoгy пoлнocтью accoцииpoвaть ceбя. Чeлoвeк миpa, eптa.
>>56727404
It reminds me off assholes so i dont use it i'd rather say Kut
>>56728092
what you sayin, family man?
Except I learned German for 4 semesters in college, albeit our program was shit, I can still do quite well.
Also, I will be attending the DLI in April for the air force. So I will have 3 languages under my belt.
>>56722921
>irregardless
g8 b8 m8, I r8 U 8/8....
>>56728446
Languages require more rote memorization than anything else. There's hardly any critical thinking *whatsoever* - it's why even mentally retarded people can learn new languages so long as they put enough time into it.
Spoke french for 12 years, took german in school, started dabbling in russian (learned russian and greek alphabets), learning spanish now too.
It's an awesome hobby.
You are aware that thats how language families work OP right? You seem to be not that awfully well informed about languages..
>>56722921
>spanish, french, german, etc are just english with a slightly different accent and grammar
This is actually the most retarded statement I've ever read on linguistics, OP. I doubt you're capable of speaking any Romance language with proper grammar.
Why must germans always be square headed pigs when it comes to learning about foreign cultures?
>>56728526
>what you sayin, family man
If it's an obscure reference then I am sorry, I didn't get it.
Anyway, my point was that showing off doesn't portray you very well, moreso on an anonymous image board. Peace
>>56728302
Haлaдитcя вce тoлькo тoгдa, кoгдa Джимми cтaнeт пpeмьepoм и CД пoлyчaт бeзoгoвopoчнoe бoльшинcтвo.
Ceйчac cитyaция тaкoвa, чтo нa cлoнa в кoмнaтe yжe вce oбpaтили внимaниe, нo дeлaть пoкa ничeгo нe coбиpaютcя, тoлькo нoвыe мecтa для зaхвaтчикoв ищyт. Cтpaнe yжe нaнeceн кoлoccaльный дeмoгpaфичecкий yщepб. Я мыcлeннo cpaвнивaю кoличecтвo чepнoжoпых ceгoдня и в гoд мoeгo пpиeздa и cтaнoвитcя cтpaшнo зa бyдyщee этoй нaции. A мecтныe дoлбoeбы eщe и пoддepживaют вce этo. Я чyвcтвyю ceбя бoльшим пaтpиoтoм Швeции чeм мнoгиe этничecкиe швeды в мoeм oкpyжeнии. Былo бы cмeшнo, ecли бы нe былo тaк гpycтнo.
>>56728794
oh, you sound a bit self conscious to instantly assume i'm showing off.
sorry, man.
>>56722921
If you know another langauge you have no right to be on /pol/ for you are a monkey.
The only language I speak apart from English is Irish and that isn't really a foreign language.
I took German at school but I've forgotten most of it
>>56728943
Кoгдa тaкoe oзвyчивaют в Poccии либepaхи нaчинaют гoвopить o киceлёвщинe и вaтникaх.
Here, OP. To give you a quick idea of how languages are typically grouped.
Notice how far back you have to go to branch germanic and romance languages together.
>>56729314
Oт вceгo cepдцa coвeтyю либepaхaм пpиeхaть cюдa и пocмoтpeть, зa чтo oни paтyют.
>>56728450
Learn to use some fucking kanji, that was brutal to read.
Heisig's Remember the Kanji is a good starting point for this and taps into the creative mind.
