You probably say "Islam is a filthy religion! It's violent!"
Yeah, most of its representatives are. But now, I shall debunk m8.
Islam ISN'T a violent religion. Watch the full video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxelJ6ADGes
Now that you've watched it, how does your arguement feel now? It's rekt, isn't?
And for those who say "It IS a violent religion because it started with violence!"
It started as a revolution for freedom. Muslims were being persecuted by pagans, and what do you do when someone is persecuting you? You rebel.
and also, I advise reading the FULL Koran. You probably only read what you were looking for. The passages of violence and "the discriminating and inhumane passages". Read. Its the first word a angel uttered to a prophet, you should too.
For Christians, who say "Islam needs to be destroyed".
The fact Islam exists is proof that Christianity failed.
Also, learn about what muslims did:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim_scientists
Note: "Arabic numerals" were misnamed. They should've been called "Muslim numerals". That arguement, "Indians invented the arab numerals" doesn't make sense. You never said what religion were the Indians. Were they Hindu or Muslim? Possibly Zoroastrian? Go find out!
Thank you and have a nice day/night,
Muslim guy who is annoyed with current state of things.
(Get the "Meaning of the Holy Quran", Abi Abdullah Yusuf version. It includes clarifications, explanations, demystifications, and notices.)
(P.S. We can't change or edit or delete the Koran, But we can put warnings and stuff before passages like that "kill them wherever you find them" thing.)
What the fuck does it matter if you read the full koran when 30-80% of muslims believe and try to act out the fucked up parts?
>>56653905
30 percent is equal to 300,000-30,000. And it technically is our fault since we never fully explained Islam to our kids. Instead, we were obsessed with bellydance and "THE KAFFIR!"
>>56653682
Differences between Muhhamed and Jesus
Jesus
>Pacifist leader who lead people with the use of the word of god
>never hurted anyone
>died for the sins of humanity
>forgave his perpetrators
>inspired billions of lifes to do good and love each other
Muhhamed
>warmonger
>rapist
>pedophile
>genocidal
>the majority of people he converted was through the sword
>used the "word of god" to his own benefit
>advocate for the killings of non-believers
And that's just scraping the surface
>Islam works all previous versions of Islam were just not done properly my specific true version of Islam is right
Islam the new communism?
And you would be surprised at the amount of knowledge we actually have here in depth with religion. Dont take the board as some uneducated shithole.
>>56654779
>>56655097
Quran (5:33) - "Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment,"
Quran (3:151) - "We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve for what they have associated with Allah of which He had not sent down [any] authority. And their refuge will be the Fire, and wretched is the residence of the wrongdoers."
Quran (2:191) - "And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers."
Quran (2:193) - "Fight them until there is no [more] fitnah and [until] worship is [acknowledged to be] for Allah . But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors."
>>56655158
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1le8KiPqt5I
>>56653682
Why should I read heretic bullshit?
Deus Vult, your ass will be grass.
>>56655263
http://youtu.be/kUbb650qwIk
>>56655337
https://youtu.be/KXGE2eBUdlQ
>>56654701
>30 percent is equal to 300,000-30,000
>>56654779
>Jesus
>Pacifist
"Sell your cloak and buy a sword"
t. Jesus
>>56653682
Christianity never tried to eradicate Islam.
We just tell people to stop worshiping satan, and start worshiping God.
You're thinking of the Catholics, who prevented the Muslims a thousand years ago from infesting Europe.
>>56655386
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2r28MUiX2U
>>56655409
Are you implying Catholics are bad?
Do you want that fucking horde into Europe?
>>56655097
That chart needs the wry comment from Aiesha that when the "prophet" needs a new revelation, allah is quick to provide one. It's in her hadith iirc.
>>56655403
Care to cite wars that Jesus did?
>>56654779
Warmonger- Already explained. He and his people were being PERSECUTED. In the surah ar-rum, in summary, it says "The Pagans, we give them 2 months to go to the Byzantines."
Paedophile-
It's not like he had BDSM, Anal, Oral, or any other things. And why don't we mention the Romans? The Romans had sex with 7 year old boys.
Rapist- People keep on throwing that term around. A "Rapist" is when one unconditionally has sex with a unwilling individual. Aisha was willing. And check that Japanese Rat-Man Guy, he was a Necrophile, yet his case is a blip in crime history!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satar%C5%8D_Fukiage
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsutomu_Miyazaki (The Rat-Man Guy)
>>56655552
No, just distinct from Christians.
I love all of the people who worship the Queen of Heaven, and perform their priests' rites and rituals to Eat God, Be God.
More room in heaven for me!
>>56655462
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICpU8-foA0E
>>56655682
Get raped by the Muslim horde then.
>>56655403
So, 2 guys out of 11 had knives, not really swords, and that was the end of that matter.
Did Jesus need help to flood the earth and kill millions, if not billions, of His own creation? No?
Will Jesus need help to kill millions, if not tens of millions, of muslims, soon?
Why no, no He will not.
>>56655735
>>56655669
Nope. The slaughter of the peaceful Jewish tribe that had existed without any conflict whatsoever, not in a time of war, and never persecuting Mohammad and his henchmen, were beheaded in front of their women and children. 800 men murdered so that Mohammad could loot their tribe.
And that's just one atrocity.
>>56655820
See >>56655794
Christians my ass, kuck.
>Koran's old testament is peace loving hippie bullshit
>new testament is conquer conquer conquer
>Bible's old testament is God being an angry God
>new testament is peace loving hippie bullshit
The way the Koran works is when contradictions occur, the verse written later wins.
See, I understand how your religion works and I don't agree with it.
I don't give a fuck about the peaceful majority.
They can do whatever the fuck they want because that's what freedom is.
I want to nuke the fuck out and rip and tear the sandniggers and blast them back to the stone age.
>>56655963
>>56655794
Your priorities are all out of whack, papist.
Besides, I did my time and removed kebab.
What have you done?
face it theyre the same thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYV7KWQ-fY4
>>56655403
That passage is misinterpreted so much,
>>56656047
>>56655979
None of you is christian, from your heart to your ass.
You're safe from being in the will of God.
>>56656051
>fighting for zog
Kuck.
>>56656047
There is a distinct contradiction in how many days "allah" created the world.
>>56654701
Obvious troll is obvious
>>56656121
kek
I like turning their argument that you don't understand it, because you're not a native Arab reading the original in native Arabic.
Seems to me like it's only for the Arabs then.
And of course, they have always, and continue, to worship Ba'al.
>>56656121
Who lives in the Arctic?
What business do muslims have there?
And the FIRST Quran was written by the Rashidun.
>>56653682
Ok let's bite.
You're right, l met some cool muslims, but a lot, like a looooot of them are basically niggers but not quite black. That's why l don't like them, it started waaaay before ISIS was created. They're just filthy, l can't trust them. Yeah it might be a religion of peace, but in the end you guys are just the same, even if some of you are alright, the rest is not.
>>56656202
Fighting for my buddies.
Something you'll never know, appreciate, or understand.
What a sad little man you are.
>>56656318
So everybody is a troll?
Are you the only one that is not?
Anybody that disagrees with you is a "troll"?
>>56653682
>explain this op
>>56656410
>Fighting for Usury puppets
lel, go back to being whore.
>>56656401
Yeah, I sometimes wish that it only allowed people of intellect into the religion.
For example, the admittance would be an IQ Test.
>>56655669
>Warmonger
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_career_of_Muhammad
>Paedophile-
>It's not like he had BDSM, Anal, Oral, or any other things. And why don't we mention the Romans? The Romans had sex with 7 year old boys.
Yeah, Muhhamed was a man of his time right? Fucking Aisha while she played with her dolls in a playground
>Rapist
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Rape_in_Islam
https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2013/01/18/islam-the-crimes-of-prophet-mohammed/
>>56656499
No, its just that there being over a billion Muslims in the world means a hell of a lot more than just 30000 are bad
>>56656731
Ay. You're comparing the girls you see in 2015 with 620 girls. 620 girls probably were mature enough to handle it.
Rape is forbidden. It states "You may not touch a woman until marriage".
>>56656932
I believe that there are only around a million or 100,000 muslims worldwide. The billions are just plain, unintellectual, uneducated, un-pious, dis-respectful to other cultures, and humiliating representatives for our religion.
>>56657008
So you forcible marry her then rape her.
>>56656642
But then they would read it and find that it is worthless drivel and leave the religeon vacant.
>>56653682
>Islam ISN'T a violent religion.
We have over 1,200 years of history that say you're full of shit lad
>>56657392
Listen.
Islam is proof that christianity failed.
If Christianity stayed the same, and the bible was never changed, Islam would have NO point of existing.
Also, Zoroastrianism, Christianity, and Judaism preach of a Prophet named "Ahmad".
In Deuteronomy(Christianity), it says "there will be a prophet, who I(Jesus) shall speak through. I shall speak all my words through him.
So, You technically are insulting Jesus, since Mohammed is supposed to have Jesus' soul within him.
If you are a atheist, sorry I spouted things that don't matter to you.
>>56657993
No, Jesus Christ our lord and savior would be pissed by an idolatry worshiping faggot.
>>56657811
What do you mean in "We"?
Are you muslim? 1,000 of those years were spent with this:
"List of Muslim scientists" (google it)
>Following the religion of a pedophile rapist
Nice blue pill faggot
>>56658070
Deuteronomy 18:18
“I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their brethren, and will put My words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command Him.”
Oh sorry, I said "Jesus". I take that back. God spoke to Moses, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQpVXAF0DNA
WATCH IT. I ADVISE.
>>56658535
Then why aren't you using the Old Testament as guidance too, and following the ten commandments? You can't just pick and choose the bible like GURPs.
Why are you a heretic scum?
Why can't you admit that you worship a pedophile?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQpVXAF0DNA
WATCH IT.
>>56658535
The prophet was Jesus. Not Muhammad. Jesus came from the line of David, who came from the line of Abraham, who came from the line of Moses.
>>56658752
Why can't you admit that the trinity thing was borrowed from Paganism?
http://www.indefenseofthefaith.com/the-trinity-is-a-pagan-concept.html
https://carm.org/christianity/christian-doctrine/word-trinity-not-bible
https://carm.org/christianity/christian-doctrine/word-trinity-not-bible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT8_faUmR1w
>>56659066
Why can't we admit both were prophets?
>>56659534
>borrowed
The term is appropriated.
>>56653682
>The fact Islam exists is proof that Christianity failed.
muslim logic never fails to captivate.
>>56657993
We have a very accurate copy of the torah today. Muhammad commited the terrible sin of adding to and taking away the commandments of god. At best he was decieved by a demon.
You do not love god, you do not heed the teachings of Jesus, and you follow lies.
>>56653682
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxelJ6ADGes
What Is Taqiyya?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6F4wBeshTsw
because we know the ultimate goal of islam:
http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/Arlandson/ultimate_goal.htm
>>56659843
When you have the first non-biblical monotheistic religion who basically founded Christianity and Islam say something, you know it's right.
http://www.islamawareness.net/Zoroastrianism/scriptures.html
>>56660108
>Persian shit
>right
>>56659627
Because Muhammad's teachings contradict with Jesus' teachings.
>>56660183
Respect m80.
Zoroastrianism founded the concept of a virgin birth.
Zoroastrianism founded the concept of "Heaven and Hell" and "God and Devil".
and you call it "Shit."
Read up more.
>>56660362
Show me.
>>56653682
>NO REAL SCOTSMAN FALLACY 'THE THREAD'
>NO REAL SCOTSMAN FALLACY 'THE THREAD'
>NO REAL SCOTSMAN FALLACY 'THE THREAD'
>NO REAL SCOTSMAN FALLACY 'THE THREAD'
>NO REAL SCOTSMAN FALLACY 'THE THREAD'
>>56660391
Are you a heretic?
Yes, yes you are, a retarded heretic that says Persian shit is what we learn.
>>56653682
Terrorists are as islamic as it gets.
>>56660559
Beyond this reply, I ignore you.
>>56660697
>being a kuckold because I'm right
lel.
>>56660678
I don't actually believe that you made this, and Iraq also has Wahabbis who agreed with what he said, so thats why he probably got a "PhD" in Islamic studies.
>>56660783
Shit. I made a mistake.
I meant
"I believe that somebody made this with photoshop"
>>56657993
Islam is proof that Mohammad was a terrible person and a liar. If he was a godly man, he wouldn't have to make up a whole religion to excuse his base, impulsive behavior.
A Fact about Shintoism.
It instructs all followers to die for their emperor and also sees the emperor as a "Demi-God".
It also instructs that "All wars Japan fights are holy".
And for the paedophile thing,
You forgot to cover up the stacks of loli hentai in your room/on the internet.
>>56661116
Do you think anyone cares about what the Nips believe in?
>>56660457
Christianity teaches us that we are all sinners, and salvation is only through Jesus Christ.
Islam teaches "salvation through works"
Christianity tells us to love one another as God loved us when he sent his Son down to die for our sins.
Islam teaches its followers to kill infidels. >>56655735
What else would you like to know?
>>56660993
Impulsive behaviour?
Leading his religion in a war of revolution against persecutors?
Being responsible for the religion of this guy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ismail_Al-Jazari (If you read more, it says that he invented the modern toilet)
Preventing the burial of innocent girls? (Surah Al-Takwir. The Burial of innocent girls was something Pagan arabs did when they had girls instead of boys.)
Having more girls than you? (He had 9.)
Doesn't seem impulsive to me.
>>56653682
It's a violent religion because it's still violent now, all other religions have, to an extent, moved on and decided to just deal with one another. islam hasn't changed much in hundreds of years, they still kill each other over minor differences in religious beliefs and practices, and they still act like children when it comes to criticism of their death-cult like religion.
All religions and ideologies a should be open to criticism, especially islam.
>>56661378
Oh my god.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxelJ6ADGes
WATCH THIS FUCKING VIDEO!
>>56661486
Agree.
But its representatives are repulsive and/or violent.
I cringe because of the representatives of my religion.
>>56661517
Yet a large fucking majority supports them.
>>56661641
Well I'm glad you're reasonable.
Maybe try and get people to help you protest against ISIS, people need to see moderates protesting extremist or you all seem like you're silently supporters of violent Islam.
>>56653682
And after a succesful rebellion you start invading and conquering your neighbours who did nothing to you, for 1000 years.
Such peace.
If Islam is not violent, explain why it is?
If "terrorists" are not Islamic, ask them? They will tell you to your face they are.
If jihad is not Islamic, explain Mohammed? He did a lot of that + beheading, too you know?
If Islam is peaceful, tell me why they behead, stone, rape and kill one another by the precepts of their beliefs?
Explain why in the koran it has several violent passages?
Islam is violent and to say it is not is an example of 21st century Marxist thought
>Take the truth and turn it inside out
>>56658743
Lovely mental gymnastics. What is this supposed to convince me of?
op is interested in convincing us that most other religions have been as violent as islam at some point. op is right in saying that. op is not right in saying that islam is peaceful, because it isnt. sure, christianity throug the times werent either, but two bads does not make one good.
for the record, posting a youtube link demanding us to watch it to prove YOUR point is dumb. if you want to get the point in it across so bad, try typing it yourself, using your own words. if you cant, then perhaps you should not have used the video to begin with.
>>56653682
JESUS H FUCK!!!!!
Every third new thread is a Fucking "we are le religion of peace meme" thread.
FUCK
OFF
Your bullshit religion would have faded into obscurity if all the bomb threats didn't put it in the headlines every two weeks!
Your not a religion of peace if you have to remind people every 8 seconds
