Here are some words of great thinkers on Islam
“It is a great shame for any one to listen to the accusation that Islaam is a lie and that Muhammad was a fabricator and a deceiver. We saw that he remained steadfast upon his principles, with firm determination; kind and generous, compassionate, pious, virtuous, with real manhood, hardworking and sincere. Besides all these qualities, he was lenient with others, tolerant, kind, cheerful and praiseworthy and perhaps he would joke and tease his companions. He was just, truthful, smart, pure, magnanimous and present-minded; his face was radiant as if he had lights within him to illuminate the darkest of nights; he was a great man by nature who was not educated in a school nor nurtured by a teacher as he was not in need of any of this.”
-Thomas Carlyle
"Islam, which originated among the Semitic races also consisted of the Law and Tradition, regarded as a formative force, to which the Arab stocks of the origins provided a purer and nobler human material that was shaped by a warrior spirit. The Islamic law (shariah) is a divine law; its foundation, the Koran, is thought of as God’s very own word (kalam Allah) as well as a nonhuman work and an 'uncreated book' that exists in heaven ab eterno."
-Julius Evola
More to come
>>56495366
"Christianity destroyed for us the whole harvest of ancient civilization, and later it also destroyed for us the whole harvest of Mohammedan civilization. The wonderful culture of the Moors in Spain, which was fundamentally nearer to us and appealed more to our senses and tastes than that of Rome and Greece, was trampled down (—I do not say by what sort of feet—) Why? Because it had to thank noble and manly instincts for its origin—because it said yes to life, even to the rare and refined luxuriousness of Moorish life!... The crusaders later made war on something before which it would have been more fitting for them to have grovelled in the dust—a civilization beside which even that of our nineteenth century seems very poor and very “senile.”—What they wanted, of course, was booty: the orient was rich.... Let us put aside our prejudices! The crusades were a higher form of piracy, nothing more! The German nobility, which is fundamentally a Viking nobility, was in its element there: the church knew only too well how the German nobility was to be won.... The German noble, always the “Swiss guard” of the church, always in the service of every bad instinct of the church—but well paid.... Consider the fact that it is precisely the aid of German swords and German blood and valour that has enabled the church to carry through its war to the death upon everything noble on earth! "
-Friedrich Nietzsche
mohammed raided and killed a bunch of people and raped a 9 year old in the name of a magical being in the sky
>>56495400
"I respect, more than do the Mamluks, God, his prophet Muhammad and the glorious Qur'an... we are true Muslims. Are we not the one who has destroyed the Pope who preached war against Muslims? Did we not destroy the Knights of Malta, because these fanatics believed that God wanted them to make war against the Muslims?”
-Napoleon Bonaparte
>>56495366
I've read the Koran.
It's not that great.
Which is why you need anime.
Anime is stronger than Islam.
Here are some words from Muslims on Islam:
>ALLAHU AKBAR
>>56495366
If Islam is great then why majority of islamic countries are 3rd world shithole?
>>56495400
>I do not lie
kek
>>56495497
Jesus christ stay strong bro.
>>56495454
"The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death. A slow death has something comforting about it. The dogma of Christianity gets worn away before the advances of science... The instructions of a hygienic nature that most religions gave, contributed to the foundation of organized communities. The precepts ordering people to wash, to avoid certain drinks, to fast at appointed dates, to take exercise, to rise with the sun, to climb to the top of the minaret — all these were obligations invented by intelligent people. The exhortation to fight courageously is also self-explanatory. Observe, by the way, that, as a corollary, the Moslem was promised a paradise peopled with sensual girls, where wine flowed in streams — a real earthly paradise. "
and
"Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers -already, you see, the world had already fallen into the hands of the Jews, so gutless a thing Christianity! -then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism [Islam], that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world. Christianity alone prevented them from doing so."
-Adolf Hitler
>>56495400
He's actually calling them primitives. Part of the philosophy that he expresses is about not denying the sensual pleasures of life which Dindus are particularly fond of.
He wants to say that it's not evil to restrain your urges, but we all know where that shit leads. Neoplatonism all the way.
HOLY SHIT
RUN!
These were 18th/19th century thinkers whose only interaction with that religion came from Orientalist sources/viewpoints. That faith had a very different relationship with the west back then, and it we can't really be sure they would say the same if they were alive today.
>>56495499
You do know the source for the Prophet Mohammed's (PBUH) having sex with a nine year old girl is based on oral stories that weren't set to writing until a couple of hundred years after his death, right?
>>56496015
Doesn't it come from al-Bukhari? Don't most Sunnis consider it credible?
>>56495366
>>56495400
>>56495454
>>56495563
Western intellectuals that wrote about islam were reactionaries. They primarily used islam as a political tool against their own religion(s).
None of them had ever lived under sharia law.
How many years did Friedrich Nietzsche live under an islamic theocracy?
typical islamic propaganda thread
>>56496324
Let's be honest, Nietzsche is the only great thinker in this thread.
>>56496470
Yep
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yUJZ6fErmw
lel nice shill
>>56496527
I also didn't mean to bash Napoleon, but even if he was a talented mathematician, his he didn't directly contribute to western thought.
>>56495366
>"Islam, which originated among the Semitic races also consisted of the Law and Tradition, regarded as a formative force, to which the Arab stocks of the origins provided a purer and nobler human material that was shaped by a warrior spirit. The Islamic law (shariah) is a divine law; its foundation, the Koran, is thought of as God’s very own word (kalam Allah) as well as a nonhuman work and an 'uncreated book' that exists in heaven ab eterno."
>-Julius Evola
this is literally just a fucking description of islam using islamic sources. Evola did his homework yaaaay how is this pro-islam in any way?
THIS THREAD IS NOW OFFICIALLY HARAM.
ALL TRIGGERED MUDSLIMES PLEASE REPORT TO YOUR NEAREST BUTTHURT CENTER FOR ASSISTANCE.
>>56496440
You should be used to Islam propaganda,
>>56495777
How do you Islam when they taste so good?
>>56496148
>Sunnis
>>56498027
>Sunnis
Are you saying that the largest sect of Islam is illegitimate. Their size alone justifies taking their claims seriously.
>>56496911
>Finally, Islam presents a traditional completeness, since the shariah and the sunna, that is, the exoteric law and tradition, have their complement not in a vague mysticism, but in full-fledged initiatory organisations (turuq) that are characterised by an esoteric teaching (tawil) and by the metaphysical doctrine of the Supreme Identity (tawhid). In these organizations, and in general in the shia, the recurrent notions of the masum, of the double prerogative of the isma (doctrinal infallibility), and of the impossibility of being stained by any sin (which is the prerogative of the leaders, the visible and invisible Imams and, the mujtahid) lead back to the line of an unbroken race shaped by a tradition at a higher level than both Judaism and the religious beliefs that conquered the West
>>56498284
They're legitimate Muslims, they're just wrong on that issue.
https://youtu.be/EhpRlkrMWy8
>>56498374
Still doesn't change this:
>Their size alone justifies taking their claims seriously.
>>56498579
But Jesus did the same thing. Jews view Christianity in exactly the same way this fellow (correctly) views Islam.
>>56498637
How does their size justify taking their claims seriously?
>>56498768
Jesus did not write a book.
>>56495366
Did he get his right hand cut off for masturbating or stealing fruit?
>>56498804
It gives them enough power to make such a belief have real-world repercussions.
>>56498908
He did start a cult though, based on claims heretical to Judaism.
>>56498804
Does that mean we're going to start listening to Ibadi Muslims or Shia Muslims on true Islam now?
