Thoughts?
Apparently the White House referred to Christmas Trees as Holiday Trees for the first time this year, which prompted Ben Stein, to say, on CBS Sunday Morning,
My confession: I am a Jew, and every single one of my ancestors was Jewish. And it does not bother me even a little bit when people call those beautiful lit up, bejewelled trees, Christmas trees. I don't feel threatened. I don't feel discriminated against. That's what they are, Christmas trees.
It doesn't bother me a bit when people say, 'Merry Christmas' to me. I don't think they are slighting me or getting ready to put me in a ghetto. In fact, I kind of like it. It shows that we are all brothers and sisters celebrating this happy time of year. It doesn't bother me at all that there is a manger scene on display at a key intersection near my beach house in Malibu. If people want a nativity scene, it's just as fine with me as is the Menorah a few hundred yards away.
I don't like getting pushed around for being a Jew, and I don't think Christians like getting pushed around for being Christians. I think people who believe in God are sick and tired of getting pushed around, period. I have no idea where the concept came from, that America is an explicitly atheist country. I can't find it in the Constitution and I don't like it being shoved down my throat.
Or maybe I can put it another way: where did the idea come from that we should worship celebrities and we aren't allowed to worship God? I guess that's a sign that I'm getting old, too. But there are a lot of us who are wondering where these celebrities came from and where the America we knew went to.
In light of the many jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different: This is not intended to be a joke; it's not funny, it's intended to get you thinking.
Cont.
In light of recent events... terrorist attacks, school shootings, etc. I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her body found a few years ago) complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school. The Bible says thou shalt not kill; thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.
Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they misbehave, because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide). We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said okay.
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Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayson asked her 'How could God let something like this happen?' (regarding Hurricane Katrina). Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response. She said, 'I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out. How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand He leave us alone?'
In light of recent events... terrorist attacks, school shootings, etc. I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her body found a few years ago) complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school. The Bible says thou shalt not kill; thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.
Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they misbehave, because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide). We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said okay.
Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves.
Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out. I think it has a great deal to do with 'WE REAP WHAT WE SOW.'
Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the world's going to hell.
Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says.
Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like wildfire, but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing.
I'm an agnostic (I would be athiest but I can't prove a negative).
Christmas trees don't offend me. It seems to me that the liberals that came up with these rules about holiday trees should but out. They are not relious and shouldn't be determining what offends Christians, Jews, etc.
I like to imagine that the exclusion of religions from the public sphere will only serve to force them back in once the cultural pendulum swings back, which will be sped along by the rising relevance of foreign, powerful religions like Islam.
I mean, I'm a Christian, but I never really gave it much mind until the last few years as the culture war put itself more into the forefront of the public consciousness with it's contrast to Islam, causing me to rethink my heritage and culture. So, I think some people will start returning to he church, at least in some regard, as people in the US re-explore their roots and consider what made this country and it's people what they are today.
I also believe it's our responsibility as Christian Europeans to remind people just exactly what we stand for, and how our values not only got us to where they are, but why they're the best values, and should be preserved.
>>56471340
christmas trees shouldn't offend you since they're not christian.
they're just part of the traditions borrowed from other religions to try to entice them to join up.
Christmas has been a secular, consumer holiday (like halloween or, for some people, the 4th of July) since like the 1920s or something. Nothing about the mainstream image of Christmas is religious; it's more of a celebration of family and camaraderie than it is of Jesus. The only people to do celebrate Christmas religiously do so at church or at their homes.
I'll never understand people who get their asses annihilated by Xmas.
Atheists aren't offended by Christmas trees, but Christians are pussy faggots offended by holiday trees.
Toughen up, christ.
>>56471008
When lefty Jews of all people start jumping ship from your progressive movement, you've fucked up so bad that you make invading Russia in December look reasonable in comparison.
http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/194956/academia-beyond-salvation
Of course, there's a good reason why Jews are abandoning their monstrous creation
http://thoughtcatalog.com/joshua-goldberg/2014/12/when-social-justice-warriors-attack-one-tumblr-users-experience/
>>56472970
>Eat a dick, faggot.
15 years ago that would have been an insult, but to the modern left this is an every day occurence and no longer shocking.
>>56471008
So...we need a jew now to "rescue" Christmas?
now I have his permission to enjoy the legend and mystery of a 2000 year old tradition...again???
Why did we get rid of corporal punishment? I can understand it's painful, but if it gives people good manners and creates a better society, isn't it worth the exchange?
>>56471008
because if christmas is destroyed, the cash cow is destroyed, jews love cash cows
>>56475305
Because allowing employees of the state to hit your children is dumb shit
Private schools can do it with parents permission I guess like catholic schools
>>56471008
Well if the disgusting Zionist Khazar Jewish scum would stop pushing around Christians, we would still have Christmas.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/01/18/fields-circle-jesus-traditional-baptism-site/
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.644285
>>56471008
#notalljews !!! lmao, seriously tho, this guys my fucking hero right now.
>>56472143
>I like to imagine that the exclusion of religions from the public sphere will only serve to force them back in once the cultural pendulum swings back
thats satans plan exactly. beware the ecumenical movement, they are conflating all religions the same and watering everything down into "spirituality"
>>56472970
christmas is supposed to be about celebrating the birth and teaching and glorifying Jesus Christ.
>>56471008
Ben Stein has always been an OK Jew.
He got what he wanted and doesn't seem to care much for helping or hurting anyone else.
