Took my X70 to a Trump rally just now. I also got the Creative Cloud and I've noticed that as I load an image, LR will change the colors just a bit after it has loaded my RAW file. Is there a way to stop that? It seems like it saturates the image a bit and it teases me with colors I prefer as it loads the image and then takes it away.
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Camera-Specific Properties: Equipment Make FUJIFILM Camera Model X70 Camera Software Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 6.4 (Windows) Maximum Lens Aperture f/2.8 Sensing Method One-Chip Color Area Image-Specific Properties: Horizontal Resolution 240 dpi Vertical Resolution 240 dpi Image Created 2016:02:22 21:41:55 Exposure Time 1/60 sec F-Number f/2.8 Exposure Program Manual ISO Speed Rating 1600 Lens Aperture f/2.8 Brightness 0.8 EV Exposure Bias 0 EV Metering Mode Spot Light Source Unknown Flash No Flash, Compulsory Focal Length 18.50 mm Rendering Normal Exposure Mode Manual White Balance Auto Scene Capture Type Standard Sharpness Normal Subject Distance Range Unknown
>>2775710
Lightroom General Presets -> Zeroed
Also, Camera calibration -> profile -> adobe standard or embedded
>>2775716
Awesome, thank you. I'm really digging this camera so far and LR is also new to me.
>>2775717
i also wanted to know but never looked about. it was a simple google search tbqhf. film presets how are they? post more pics
>>2775710
You're probably gonna get hassled by gr fanboys
Also taking a camera to a trump rally is genius, I would do it but I'm not white so they'd probably lynch me or something
>>2776046
are you serious dude? Look at all the cameras in the room...
>>2776046
Have you seen how many blacks and Hispanics support trump?
Don't subscribe to the "Trump is an beleeb in waaacist" meme Facebook has been feeding you.
>>2776046
Reddit is that way.
>>2775710
pol? is that u
>>2776065
OP here, I did post this in last nights rally bread. There were a few other photos taken there by other /pol/ users but they didn't have the angle to where I could see where I was sitting. I did post another shot in that bread, though. I am new to LR and the x70 so I made a bread here.
>>2776056
I mean as in taking snapshits and such, most people are taking their phones or cameras to get photos of or with trump but There's probably lots of other interesting things to shoot at a trump rally
>>2776061
You must be very smart!
>>2775716
not OP, but I tried this and it didn't really work. Here's how the picture originally looked in the raw (or very close to that)
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Camera-Specific Properties: Equipment Make FUJIFILM Camera Model X-E1 Camera Software Digital Camera X-E1 Ver2.30 Maximum Lens Aperture f/1.0 Sensing Method One-Chip Color Area Focal Length (35mm Equiv) 75 mm Maker Note Version 0130 Image-Specific Properties: Image Orientation Top, Left-Hand Horizontal Resolution 72 dpi Vertical Resolution 72 dpi Image Created 2016:02:22 10:54:34 Exposure Time 1/38 sec F-Number f/0.0 Exposure Program Aperture Priority ISO Speed Rating 6400 Lens Aperture f/1.0 Brightness -6.8 EV Exposure Bias -1.3 EV Metering Mode Pattern Light Source Unknown Flash No Flash, Compulsory Focal Length 50.00 mm Color Space Information sRGB Image Width 4896 Image Height 3264 Rendering Normal Exposure Mode Auto White Balance Auto Scene Capture Type Standard Sharpness Hard Subject Distance Range Unknown Sharpness Hard White Balance Auto Chroma Saturation Unknown Flash Mode Off Macro Mode Off Focus Mode Manual Slow Synchro Mode Off Picture Mode Aperture Prior AE Continuous/Bracketing Mode Off Blur Status OK Focus Status OK Auto Exposure Status OK
>>2775716
>>2776191
and here's how it looked like imported in lightroom with the presets zeroed and the camera calibration to adobe standard
I feel like I made a mistake somewhere...
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Camera-Specific Properties: Equipment Make FUJIFILM Camera Model X-E1 Camera Software Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5.6 (Windows) Sensing Method One-Chip Color Area Focal Length (35mm Equiv) 75 mm Image-Specific Properties: Image Orientation Top, Left-Hand Horizontal Resolution 240 dpi Vertical Resolution 240 dpi Image Created 2016:02:23 19:50:36 Exposure Time 1/40 sec F-Number f/1.0 Exposure Program Aperture Priority ISO Speed Rating 6400 Lens Aperture f/1.0 Brightness -6.8 EV Exposure Bias -1.3 EV Metering Mode Pattern Light Source Unknown Flash No Flash, Compulsory Focal Length 50.00 mm Color Space Information sRGB Rendering Normal Exposure Mode Auto White Balance Auto Scene Capture Type Standard Sharpness Hard Subject Distance Range Unknown
>>2776195
are you sure you imported the RAW and not the JPEG?
>>2776195
The guy who told you to switch to Adobe Standard was wrong. Changing profiles is exactly why you're seeing the colors and contrast change. I don't know if Lightroom has camera profiles yet for the X70. I doubt it.
You're just going to have to shoot RAW + JPEG and try and get the raw to match what the jpeg looks like. It's a pain, but it's good practice at the same time.
>>2776197
yeah, the JPEG I posted was just because I shot JPEG + raw and wanted to show how the RAF file (almost) looked like
>>2776199
I don't have an X70, I have an XE-1 but afaik Adobe has no profiles for Fuji whatsoever
>You're just going to have to shoot RAW + JPEG and try and get the raw to match what the jpeg looks like
you mean with normal developing (sliders etc.)?One of my biggest problems is the graininess of the pictures. I mean, Fuji files normally look decent at even 6400 ISO, but after the LR import I might've as well stuck to my Canon there desu
>>2776201
When you click the Profile drop-down menu in the Camera Calibration pane, what options do you have?
>>2776207
adobe standard and a bunch of VSCO presets
It also says 2012 (current) above that
>>2775716
Adobe standard is the worst camera profile no matter which camera you use. The best thing to do when processing the raw is to choose a camera profile first.
>>2776201
wtf?! sure it has (see below).
When using LR turn NR in camera to -2, LR can't deal with it anyway. If you really think it's too much noise, then use the luminance slider to reduce it. Also make sure you leave the sharpness slider at 25, but turn detail to 100.
>>2776207
Provia (Standard)
Velvia
Astia
Pro Neg. St.
Pro Neg. HI
+ 4 Monochrome (normal, G/Y/B filter).
>>2776210
seriously? doesn't look like in this screenshot?
>>2776211
not B, but R filter..
>>2776211
>wtf?! sure it has (see below).
Aren't those just profiles for film? which one of these should I use for the Fuji Raw files?
>then use the luminance slider
Well, this does help, but it does make the pictures look a bit softer, even with the sharpness slider
>>2776201
>Lightroom has X100T profiles, imagine x70 aren't far away
Trying to mimic your camera's JPEG (preview) is pointless IMO.
It's just one of infinite number of ways to process an image.
Usually you can even choose several profiles in-camera - which one is "correct"?
And the default is likely one the marketing department decided on.
Just pick any profile you like.
And you generally do want to apply a contrast curve on import if you're not processing much by hand. - looks far more natural than "zeroed"
>>2776215
Motherfucker, the film profiles ARE the camera profiles. You're always using a film simulation with Fuji.
Look at your camera. What film simulation is it set to? Set the raw profile to that in Lightroom.
>>2775716
GR sabotage. No really I didnt know and was just trying to offer some things to try. So embedded is better than adobe standard?
This thread is all over the place. Here's what's happening: When you first import into lightroom, lightroom uses the jpg that is embedded in the raw as a placeholder. That embedded jpg's look is going to be determined by the profile setting that you set IN THE CAMERA. For example, I have a Sony and it has numerous "Styles" (profiles) that can be set in the camera such as "Vivid", "Neutral", etc. Additionally, with each "Style" I can adjust saturation, contrast and sharpness. The style I pick, and the additional adjustments I make to the "Style" will affect the look of the jpg embedded in the raw. This is what you see when you first import into lightroom. After your photos load, lightroom applies a "Profile" to your image and the look changes. In the case of my Sony, when I drop down the "Profile" box under the "Camera Calibration" tab, I see a list of all the Sony in-camera "Styles". So say I choose "Vivid", Lightroom will apply an APPROXIMATION of the Sony in-camera Style not taking into account any in-camera style adjustments to saturation, contrast or sharpness. For a Fuji you should have all of the Film "Style-Profile-Preset" in the Profile drop-down in Lightroom. If not, then Adobe hasn't made them available yet. I also use Capture One and have all of the Fuji Film profiles available to use with my Sony camera.
>>2776234
We covered that already.
>>2776224
I'm not trying to mimic the JPEG, I just want the RAW files to look the same way after I imported them in LR
>>2776225
even for the RAW files? I pretty much just shot everything in the standard mode, so I guess I should choose Provia/standard then?
>>2776234
I see. Does Canon not have JPEG embedded in the Raw file? Because I don't see many
>>2775710
Great thread anon, really nice photos.
Interesting topic, and we're all pretty excited to see pictures from this new meme camera.
This doesn't seem like bait at all...
>>2776312
>I'm not trying to mimic the JPEG, I just want the RAW files to look the same way after I imported them in LR
That is literally exactly what you are trying to do.
>even for the RAW files? I pretty much just shot everything in the standard mode, so I guess I should choose Provia/standard then?
Yes exactly.
>>2776312
>even for the RAW files?
ESPECIALLY for the raw files. Raw files don't look like anything. They aren't raster graphic files. What you're assuming is your raw file is actually a jpeg preview that your camera builds. The actual raw file that you're processing is data being processed through a profile. There's no way to see it UNTIL it's rendered by a profile, so you might as well choose one that suits you, rather than Adobe Standard.
>>2776312
>Canon not have JPEG embedded
I've never owned a Canon, but I'd hazard a guess that their RAW's have an embedded jpg.
>>2776061
You should run his campaign with how good you are at swaying votes.
>>2776345
Nope, shooter has to decide if they want to build RAW + JPEG or naw.
>>2776211
I've been using lr for over a year now and I can't believe I've never discovered camera profiles.
Is there anywhere I could download a color profile for my a7? That'd be sweet
>>2776491
It likely already has it. Again, if you click on the Profile menu in the Camera Calibration module, you're probably going to have options besides Adobe Standard. It'll be stuff like Portrait, Standard, Vivid, Landscape, etc. Those are color profiles.
If you don't see anything like that, you need to update your bootleg copy of LR.
You can also get third party camera profiles like VSCO.
