Hey /out/, i recently sold my car, and am now looking for a better /out/ing vehicle. I have about 5k that I can spend on it, and am currently looking for one that can handle dirt mountain and desert roads, as well as go innawoods for car camping and such. Pic related, I've been thinking about getting a 4runner. Do you guys think they're any good?
4runners are coveted for a reason.
>>751131
i think a tacoma with a camper is a better option, even though it only seats 2 thats just my opinion (pic unrelated since its a newer model tacoma and im in the same boat as you and would have to buy first gen tacoma)
A First-Gen Jeep Grand Cherokee with the AMC 4.0L straight-6/Aisin AX-15 5-speed manual makes a great wheeling rig, innawoods rig, and general jack of all trades vehicle. Plus the AMC 4.0 is an absolute beast of an engine that will get you to hell and back without ever skipping a beaet. The only drawback I can think of right off the bat is that they're total pigs when it comes to fuel consumption (14mpg highway/9mpg city roughly), so make sure your trip to hell includes a lot of routes near gas stations. A decent ZJ generally runs for about $2,000, but you can find examples from around $200 for "rusty but runs and drives" example to ~4-5k for a semi-built example. Now of course prices may vary depending on your area, but here in California everything's just marginally cheaper because the floor pan/rocker panels don't rust out in approximately 15 seconds like they do back east for a rig like that. Final note being: If you look at jeeps, don't be afraid of a ZJ with the 4.0 with over 250k miles, those engines can last well over 3-500k with regular maintenance and replacement of the wear parts.
Land Cruisers are super nice as well but for 5k a 4Runner is your best option imo. It's a solid platform for overlanding if that's something you're wanting to get into.
>>751213
Series 40/60/80 master race.
>>751141
>coveted
really? I had 1 and couldn't get rid of it fast enough. Total POS.
>>751219
What year was it?
Just got a 1st gen Montero bros. I'll post pics tomorrow, it's going to be a blast.
GEO tracker suzuki sidekick/vitara pontiac sun runner kia sportage all gold 25+mpg and 4 wheel drive
>>751356
>>751316
just gota dodge raider same thing made by mit for dodge
>>751379
Nice!
Random question, but any recommendations on tires? Are KO2's pretty good without sacrificing too much fuel efficiency?
i run good year m/t and have never been stuck i alwas buy my tires used from a local scrapyard though what ever looks meaty but not to agressive i've always loved small suvs\trucks have a sidekick also
top tobottom my sidekick raider power wagon civic lol
p.s.thats not my truck its a pic i had from when i was looking for one
>>751131
I thought since it's also been called 'hilux surf' it'd be on a hilux chassis but that's no longer the case.
I have a 2009 hilux and it's just an excellent car. At 205,000 on the odometer now and it feels basically new. So, I can generally recommend toyotas.
have a 81 Hilux 4x4 but dont take it camping out of fear it'll shit out on me being old/carb'd. usually take my 3/4 ton Chevy, 6.0 sucks on fuel but with an aux fuel tank ive been fine. goes everywhere, comfy, and being 6ft i can half comfortably sleep on the back seat if i dont want to set up my tent
>>751460
damn this thread got white trash pretty quick, nice job driving your chebby through a small creek.. >>>/gtfo/
>>751467
meh it does the job, ive only owned Toyotas and Nissans but my dad left it to me when he died and it has sentimental value. gets me to our camping spot in the middle of the rocky mountains hundreds of KM away from cities just fine
I had a dihatsu rocky yeara ago. The little thing looked so stupid but it had hilux running gear and went absolutely everywhere and never broke down before i sold it.
What are some thoughts on the Bronco II?
I'm looking for something easier on gas but has 4wd not AWD. And I've had some good past experience with Rangers.
I'm also thinking about a Suzuki/Geo but the ride quality is a bit rough for daily use.
>>751789
I work in Utah in the winter and usually Alaska or Washington in the summer, so I want something that can handle some rough shit but also a lot if highway driving.
>>751794
OJ baby
>>751816
OJ had a white 1993 Bronco.
>>751789
First car was a 1984 Bronco 2 with a 5-speed and 2.8L V6. Great car but the trans is kinda trashy. Also it's kinda smallish compared to the other cars you're looking at.
Really really, when it comes down to it, I'd say you should check out a lot of off-roading or general car enthusiast forums, they're generally extremely helpful and insightful.
2nd gen (05+) Nissan Xterra - 6sp. Great camping vehicle, plenty of room and power.
>>751924
Wait, how is a Bronco II smallish compared to a Geo Tracker?
Bought an old military mercedes G.
best car ever.
Taco
>>751460
Much like mine .... but you don't go buying a 3/4-ton+ pickup for its fuel economy.
But with 8k of shit behind the 7k truck, I can still see 10mpg ... considering a 3500lb car gets 30, mass moved per fuel burned per mile, they're fairly efficient.
There are days I want a diesel, but when I unhook the trailer and take the path less travelled I'm really glad I have what I do. 6.4L would be nice, but I don't feel like taking out a 2nd morgage for a new PW.
>4.56 diffs
>front/rear lockers
>sway bar disconnect
>skid plate
>winch
>tfw
>>751789
I know dick about cars but own a 4wd ranger I really like. Can out elaborate on the fin factor?
>>751966
Compared to regular cars, the Bronco 2 is smallish, compared to a Geo Tracker and such, it's big-ish.
Get a LN106 Toyota Hilux. Everything in your life will fall into place afterward.
>>751211
>talks up ZJ
>posts XJ
>>753284
Subconsciously he knows the XJ is a better vehicle.
>>752235
I've got a ranger. It does everything I want it too. Toes the boat and goes up hills and stuff.
>>751131
3rd gen 4runners are great, as are Tacomas of the same era. One major deciding factor is if you want a bed or not. I have a '99 4Runner limited. Pic related next to a river in Alaska.
>2WD, AWD, and 4WD hi/lo
>OE rear diff locker
>Small enough to park in city, but roomy enough for camping
>Can sleep in back in a pinch
>Flies down highway at 75 with quality AT tires getting 22 mpg
>Toyota reliability
>Decent sized aftermarket for off road stuff
>motherfuckin' roll down rear window
Downsides are paying Toyota tax, especially on the double cab Tacomas. It can get ridiculous. Nissan has cheaper alternatives. (Xterra/Frontier)
>>751215
Nothing masterrace about a 40 series anon, nasty nasty things to operate. Lots of rose tinted glasses when it comes to old Cruisers.
Masterrace coming through
pros:
>fucking awesome looking
>built like a tank
>can be had for cheap
>easy to work on
>6.2L diesel option gets 17-20mpg LITERALLY WILL NOT BREAK
>can run on diesel, kerosene, tranny fluid, diesel/hydraulic fluid mixes, dirty toilet water, whatever
>rolldown back window with tailgate negro (or barn doors if you're a turd)
>more than big enough in the back to haul plywood
>4x4
>growls like an angry mastiff
>turning radius approximates that of a ford ranger
cons:
>you don't own one yet
>>753284
Muh shit tier mexiphone didn't show the entire comment, only saw the fuckup after finishing and couldn't be arsed to bother fixing since lel and quick posting while in electronics class Had meant xj but meh.
Also muh fat goy thumbs
>>751374
the only people who bought these things were middle aged men who worked at Wendy's when they where new. and often look like utter shit and need TONS of work, plus to make them worth dick, you need to do a small turbo diesel swap. replace all the suspension. and get a bigger drive axle.
they can be MADE good, and are good platforms for cheap. but unless you can weld/mod and have a machine shop near by, and about 5 grand in itself to drop into parts. they aren't worth it. explorers are better choices for outright car.
>>751131
I've owned one of these pieces of shit. The motor is a butchery of Camry and Tacoma parts slapped together to make this lump of steel that is a total fucking aneurysm to work on.
If you do not get the 5-spd manual, the automatic will suck your wallet dry with its absolute shit gas mileage and poor gearing.
Volume wise, it's not as spacious as you'd think.
>>754031
what year is that?
i have a subaru outback and i love it.
has about 9 inches of ground clearance
i keep a twin mattress pad in the back and a pin full of camping stuff. its awesome the awd works great. that being said its not a pickup and cant do what a pickup would.
>>751384
>tires
Get michelins ltx
All youll ever need. I have about 4 years on mine
>>751131
Go for the highlander. Nothing past 08 though.
honestly subaru outback for 99% of people
pros:
good ground clearance
cheap as fuck
symmetrical awd
fuel efficient
big enough to lay a mattress in the back, 2 can sleep in it comfortably
reliable & well built
cruise control
cons:
head gaskets are expensive
wont handle extreme roads like literally rock crawling i guess
basically it's the best cheap road trip car if that's what you're going for. it won't off road like a truck or proper suv but it will get you down 99% of roads. but on pavement your trip is going to be a lot more comfortable and you'll save money+stop less and probably have a longer range between gas stations.
if you go on a lot of trips that are a bit of a drive to get to, outback all the way.
if you go on trips that are shorter drives but difficult to access, get a truck or suv.
whatever u do though, if you go on long trips consider parts availability in your region. like a hilux would own bones but finding a part for it on the road if it breaks would be a nightmare where i live, whereas this place is literally bleeding dirt cheap ford toyota and subaru parts. ymmv so research your area.
>>754068
>break over angle non existent
>anon high centers on the first trail
Any tips or opinions on Subaru Outbacks? I'm thinking of checking out an 04 that has 160,000 kms on it, and there asking 4 grand
>>755994
Fuck yeah. I love my 05 highlander. No matter the abuse I put on it, it keeps on trucking
OP
Toyota tax is gonna make it hard for you to get a 4runner under 150k miles on it for that price.
The Montero/Montero sport is similar and under appreciated. You get a lot of suv for the money with those. Strong axles and can fit 32"/33" tires no lift.
>>751384
Tires come down to intended terrain. I couldn't run Mud tires here in MN, too much ice.
>>751952
>$5000
>>751952
Probably not for 5k with decent mileage. I have 130k on my 06 and haven't had any major issues. I love it though, great vehicle for going out. Sturdy roof rack and more than enough storage options space
Cheap as fuck, and I think there's a pickup version too.
Cheep cherokee.
I've said it before, I'll say it again.
HILUX
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>>758726
It's a shame these are basically unobtanium in the U.S.
>>756722
it's pretty cliche but darn if it isn't what I really need
I just want something I can sleep in, put a canoe and bike on, good mpg, and decent offroad capabilites
What does /out/ think of the FJ cruiser? I was thinking of selling my Toyota Yaris and upgrading to this thing for /out/ adventures.
>>761043
There are better options but it's certainly better than a yarris.
only correct answer
>>751131
>I have about 5k that I can spend on it
Look for a used Chevy Colorado, Ford Ranger, Dodge Dakota or Toyota Tacoma.
The SUV Trail Blazer and Durango variants are also an option but IMO, a pick-up (with a cap) is more useful.
4X4 is nice to have but isn’t necessary unless you’re going off-road (i.e. OFF of the fire trails and two-tracks).
>>761043
they have always seemed like cool out vehicle. but no practical experience there.
>>760817
They're great cars; for meeting friends that is. You'll be meeting new people every time something breaks.
>>751211
Jeep has yet to fix their death-wobble. This is the reason I won't own one.
>>759375
Just bought my Luxy today
>>751131
Tacoma, hilux, ranger, navara, l200
I been leaning towards getting a used one of these Honda Elements. I kinda dig it.
Been loving my TRD taco since I got it. Aftermarket is awesome for it, factory locker is convenient (although a tad fidgety), comradery between owners rivaling that of wranglers, powerful engines that's easy to maintain and ANY shop can rebuild, and half ways decent on gas. Biggest downside is the insane prices these things fetch. Pic related is mine earlier today getting saved by the locker after the rear driver side tire lifted off and the front open diff was just spinning.
>>767999
shit model hilux desu
pic related best model hilux
>>768049
His pic is a tacoma you dick
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Not sure if this is the right thread.
Any experience with motorcycles? I was looking at something that would be about 50/50 on/off road, mainly trails, and wanted to know if a DRZ400S or a KLR650 would be the better bet.
KLR is more reliable, DRZ is better for offroad.
>>768052
Sure it may be called a Tacoma, but it's quite honestly just a shitty IFS Hilux.
