#30- "Pepsi is slacking again" Edition
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Pepsi is slacking. Bub is flounder fishing, otherwise im out of the loop.
Im looking to replace a rod guide, halp pls.
Otherwise...
Talk about fishin'
>>742204
Is it by chance the guide on the tip? If so, they sell kits to replace them at Walmart. I've done it once before on an old rod; worked fine. If by chance you bought it from Walmart, they'll likely replace the rod for free if they still carry that model/you still have the receipt.
Also, I made a trip for continuity's sake. + I don't have to say "Indiana anon here again" to preface each post.
Pic is of a 3.98# bass I caught last year. Was my first bass on a memecaster, also first on a topwater.
>>742216
Its the 5th guide from the top, so its a smaller one.
Its got 12 guides total.
>>742204
I have been here. Last thread was at 307 forever so I was just waiting and shitposting on /o/.
I'm glad you were here instead of Skid though.
>>742207
Thx bruh, next time I will put it in the OP.
>>742216
Topwaters are just so damn fun
Obligatory "bowfin" picture
Probably gonna head over by that lake this afternoon after I get a haircut. I found a new lake yesterday that isn't too far from my house but it is kinda strange. Bottom is all sandy, some small weeds all around by the shore but doesn't seem to be any lillies or big patches. Saw a dead bluegill and dead cichlid. I was getting a few bites and I have a feeling there are lots of snakeheads in there.
The one thing that made me weary of this new lake was the lack of baitfish. Most places when I run a spinner close to shore, little baitfish will get freaked out and you can see them jump. Not sure how healthy that lake is but it might be worth trying again.
>>742204
Your best bet would be to try to find a rod with similar guides for sale on Craigslist or your European equivalent , buy it and then strip the guides from it to keep backups
Strip anything else of worth and you may as well save the blank
lurker here, central illinois fishing. don't have shit for equipment and starting to get more into it. wanting to buy some more rods/reels but want to do it cheaply. what thoughts/reservations would you /out/fags have on this lot?
http://peoria.craigslist.org/spo/5531530394.html
>>742248
follow up for newfag me; i do mostly bank fishing and enjoy crappie and bass fishing. am happy to catch anything mind you, went fishing over weekend for first time in a long time. just bobber and worm/minnow but fun
>>742217
Figure out roughly what size you need, wrap it on the rod with nylon thread, epoxy over thread.
Go to mudhole.com. they should have the guide you need, epoxy and thread, and they have videos on exactly how to do it.
>>742250
You could probably buy that lot and resell them for more than $45, but I wouldn't consider anything in that lot to be something you'd want to go forward with as a "serious" fisherman. Unless you literally only want to ever use a bobber & worm, in which case that's a great buy. A cheap (<$50) medium-heavy spinning combo from Walmart would have you covered for anything you'd be likely to catch from a bank.
>>742260
what would I be looking for in a rod/reel for light duty bass fishing? the appeal to multiple rods for me is to not have to switch out the gear as often
>>742248
Ayy I've got some family in Peoria
Though I haven't visited in years
>>742267
I live about 40 minutes east of p-town. looking for any advice for a noob though, this is me as well >>742263
been lurking out in general for a few months, getting out more this year. pic related is sunset from saturday night from the bank
just want to fish some bass and crappie here and there but want to actually catch something for a change
>>742216
Nice fish man
>>742270
I would get a 7 ft medium action rod, it will be a bit heavy for crappie but just about perfect for bass fishing
I have an old ugly stick that I use sometimes as well as a St Croix
One cheap the other pretty pricy, but both work well
Get a 2-3000 size spinning reel, doesn't have to be expensive a good cheap one alot of people use is a shimano sienna, I think there's a few folks here use them
Figure 40-50$ for the rod and $30 for the reel
And you will have a rod and reel that will last you a lifetime, and unless you really get I to fishing you probably my won't ever be wanting so.ething more
Spool that rewl with some 8 lb monofilament and you should be set up to catch near about anything g freshwater
While it is nice to have multiple rods it's easy enough to use a snap swivel to change out baits/lures quickly
If you start fishing more and really get into it then it may be worth it getting a second rod
>>742248
Are those all spincast reels? I wouldn't do it unless you want to sell them.
>>742263
I'll post the copypasta for newccomers in a second.
>>742288
This is bretty good. 6'-7' medium weight rod, 2000-3000 size reel, ~8lb Trilene or other good brand monofilament line. Only thing I wouldn't do is buyin the rod and reel seperate. You could buy a Shimano Sienna for $30 and then an Ugly Stik for $40 and be fine, but if you go to Bass Pro, Cabela's, Gander Mtn, or even Dick's and buy one of their rod & reel combos, you will get a little bit more for the money. Normally a $75 combo will retail for closer to $100 if you buy the rod and reel on their own.
>>742263
>>742292
>tfw finally saved it so I don't have to retype it almost every thread
Best bet for fishing lakes and ponds, get yourself a medium weight rod and reel. 6'6" rod with a reel that holds ~150yds of 8lb or 10lb mono. Spool it up with decent 8lb monofilament line, most fishing outlets can do this for you. If you want to fish for more carp or catfish, maybe 10lb line. But 8lb is good for just about anything freshwater. You can still cast panfish lures with it and haul in bigger carp and bass.
Then grab assorted hooks, a couple bobbers, and some split shots. Pliers or a multitool are nice too. Best bet is just running nightcrawlers on a bobber and get comfortable with casting as well as seeing what you catch at these lakes. Then you can start with some lures. Ask what other people are using, or if you are catching crappie, largemouth, whatever, you could ask here for reccommendations or look elsewhere online. Watch youtube vids on how to fish the lures. Find out what works well at your lakes, and just keep going from there.
For a medium weight rod/reel combo (spinning reel of course), you can grab something for $40. But if you think you will really be into it or aren't too strapped for cash, you can buy a combo closer to $75 that will be much nicer and you won't want to replace after a couple months.
They do sell little starter kits with a couple hooks, weights, shitty bobbers, and a lure or two, but it isn't enough go last very long.
Going to dump pics of my stuff. CC welcome. Also recommend me something new to buy. Sorry for potato cam
>he doesn't own a meme lure
>>742263
Sorry I'm posting a ton at once, but I also want to add something if you really want to run more than one setup.
I would grab a medium weight rod and reel first (6'6" rod, 3000 size reel, 8lb mono line) and make sure you get the hang of things first. You can still cast some <1/8oz lures for bluegill and crappie (not super far) and you will be able to handle decent sized channel cats and carp on that as well. That's a good setup if you are mainly targeting bass.
If you are just fishing lakes and ponds from shore, I think an ultralight rod and reel is the way to go for a second setup. Something like a 6' light/medium rod with a ~1000 series reel and 4lb mono line. With this, you will be able to cast 1/8oz lures plenty far and could even run 1/16oz. On days when you are only catching crappie and <14" bass, it will be much more fun. Plus just easier to work the lighter lures. And if you do hit a 4lb+ largemouth on the light setup, the fight will be really fun.
>>742298
Probably 70-80 percent of all my fishing is done with soft plastic lures, for bass atleast
It's funny some years there's a certain hot lure,
7-8 years ago it was black worms , then after that red surgical tubing or any bright long red worm,
Then black worms again then senkos, or anything wacky rigged, then black worms with chartruce curly tails, this year it seams to be soft plastic swimbaits that are doing good,
Beat part about soft lures is they're cheap enough you can buy a bunch to find what works
Il post pics of so.e of my favorites
>>742298
I'll post my "Largemout Essentials" kit. I like inline spinners a lot like Mepps and Rooster tails. Bass and panfish love them. Rapalas are always great too. And then there's a ton of soft plastics especially on days when you want to fish a bit deeper.
>>742302
I meant to ask, what is that little slot behind the eye? I have seen those lures before where you change out the tail if needed but never thought of trying em. What is so special about them?
>>742294
Looks like your collection grew a bit since the last time you posted.
What's up with the blue line? Is that mono or braid? Closest thing I've seen to that is the SpiderWire blue camo line.
>>742301
>brown frog Skitter Pop
Mein nigga
I also have that same Bass Pro popper with the red spots on them. I wanted some smaller ~2" poppers and the Bass Pro brand ones were the only smaller ones. Everything else was closer to 3"+.
>>742311
Might be a rattler slot?
I know some fancy softies have a slit in their belly that leads to a slightly bigger opening in the innards where you put a rattler or two, or pack some attractant.
>>742313
Kastking braid. Got it off amazon. Figured I would give it a try. Been using it now for a month or so. Seems to cast, tie and works as well as power pro.
>>742309
Pic related are my must haves
>>742320
And forgot picture
>>742325
is that zoom rigged upside down compared to usual?
>>742325
Never seen those flukes hooked through the top like that. I always see em hooked through the bottom for weedless setups.
You have a lot of luck with the black and chartruese PowerBait worms?
>8.5/10, needs a Rapala or two
But flukes do replace cranks like Rapalas in a lot of situations. I get better hookups with cranks since they have the treble hooks but running them through cover is a pain in the ass.
>>742319
For sure. I'm about to take all the SpiderWire off my reels that are spooled with it. I'm noticing that it likes to fray much, much easier than PowerPro.
PowerPro ftw but if you got a good deal on the KastKing, can't go wrong.
>>742330
Actually yes, I've been running them that way latley
I guess I put it o upside down once and kept doing that since
Probably had part of the tip of the lure rip so I just flipped it
It tends to make the lure wobble much more
>>742331
It is weedless the way I have it rigged,
But you k ow how when you run this GS Texas rigged and have the tip of it rip ? So I just flipped it and tried it
Also since we're all posting tackle pics
Terminal tackle
>>742339
Spinners spoons, a few jigs, as well as wire leaders and leader material ( 2,8,15 lb mono )
>>742341
Hard bodies , topwater swimbaits ,cranks , misc hard bodies
Rapalas as well
>>742343
Misc soft plastics I don't have bags for
Normal worms, worms with fancy tails, jerkbaits, paddle tails and other misc shit,
Some of the bags of soft plastics I have go in the open space
>>742339
I don't think I've ever posted what I keep as far as terminal tackle
That guy right there has caught me more fish than any other lure. It's awesome seeing the bass come up to attack it
>>742348
newfag from before. thanks. and what are the green cork bobbers in the bottom right for?
>>742348
Soft plastics (plus all the loose and rigged shit in the previous box)
>>742348
Need more off set worm hooks
>>742351
They aren't bobbers, they're rigs for catfish dip bait.
If you ever want to go for catfish, grab some of them and a jar of the dip bait. Works way better than the dough balls that come in the bag.
>>742347
Bagged soft plastics
>>742352
And the cranks and spinners
>>742353
I have a handful, just recently kinda stocked up on larger ones like 3/0 and 4/0 for weedless flukes. I also have the weighted ones in the box on top of that pic. Plus I have some pre-tied Texas and Carolina rigs with brand new offset hooks, those are in one of the side pockets of the bag.
But yeah, never enough offset worm hooks.
>>742354
well f my a. thanks
Anyone like pickles?
>>742356
What's the deal with those Yamamoto worms? Are they really worth $8/pack?
And I still need to keep an eye out for those damn Big Bite fish. They look neat.
>>742356
And misc box , shit I use often and change out often or didn't have a place for
>>742366
Senkos are goat wacky rigged
>>742366
Yes and no I don't think I paid $8 I wouldn't do that since I'm a cheap fuck
Probably got them on sale
I mostly wacky rig them and have had tremendous success in the past few years with them, no monsters but they always catch fish
Bad part is the way I wacky rig them you tend to lose alot of the plastics or break them
I have had days where I've gone through almost a full pack of them but have caught 20-40 bass
The orangy color is best
If I had to chose soft plastics to use for the rest of forever pic related would probably be it
In the same colors too
Though trout magnets are up there
>>742356
Those big bite fish look cool, any luck with them?
Damn I wanna be cool and post all my tackle. Maybe when I get home.
>>742383
Haven't tried yet , I'm going to try them on the surface rigged sideways later summer when the big bass are more active
I got a bunch of "experimental " soft plastics to try out
>>742382
All about the white PowerBait curly tail grubs.
And those Gulp! curly tail minnows and mullets are bretty gud. I really like the chartruese 3"-4" saltwater mullets.
>>742386
Yeah they look way too fat to Texas rig. Post an update after you try them
>>742393
No way they would be Texas riggable , other then on their side
I
nd all my shit goes into this ,
(Or my kayak)
Boxes in the main part, snacks and extra clothes go ontop of that (or anything else needed)
Second pocket has all soft bagged baits
Outside pocket is a tape measure, forceps, light, some bandaids and shit , a book of matches , some tissues in case I need to wipe my ass or blow my nose
Next step is to attach a rod holder
Wish me luck
>>742411
I hate posting from phone half the time my pictures unnatatch themselves
>>742415
good luck, appreciate the newfag kindness today
Looking for a new line to use on a spinning reel. Never tried braid before usually stick to mono. Any suggestions?
>>742420
PowerPro
What strength mono you usually run?
>>742415
Ayy! Good lookin out whoever it was that said the chartruese Zoom lizards. This is the first bass I've ever caught moving a Texas rig real slow through the weeds.
I though I was just runnin through some weeds until the weeds started pulling it back out.
>>742415
you're lucky you live in an area with lizards. Never had any luck personally with them here cause we dont have shit in the way of lizards
>>742450
Same here in CT , don't have any lizards, though I bought one pack once and sometimes the fish just like all the movement
This k I may go sit at the river tonight and soak some baits in hopes of catfish or eels
>>742446
typically 10lb. I'm just getting back into fishing. one of the rods the lines still good, the other is shot so I need a replacement.
I typically go for bass and the occasional trout, but the waters I hope to fish are also home to pike, so I don't know how lucky I'll be this season.
>>742455
are eels a meme?
Ohio's DNC lists them as "prevalent" throughout the state but I've never seen or heard of anyone catching or even seeing one.
Anyway, yeah tell me how the catfishing goes. If you're in CT then you'll probably get channel cats and white cats at around a pound. Northern states don't usually carry monsters
>>742446
oh and I've never tried braid before. Does it spool normally or since it's thicker will it tear/friction wear it out? I dont know what to expect haha
>>742270
>east of p-town
No such place...
Google p-town or ptown
>>742459
I've only ever caught them at night
Sunset time , and only out if the river , apparently if you go kayaking on clear days you will sometimes see them sitting on bottom in the river but not often
Going to target this section of river that's had a bunch of gravel and shit pulled out of it , deep so there should be alot of big fish
I just hate fishing alone at night to be honest
I think this section of river has potential for monsters, depths of up to 35 ft
Slower then the rest of the river
I've actually seen catfish sunbathing on waters surface one or two times there
I would kayak fish it but I refuse to be o that water after dark
It's spooky
Killed someone last year and would have killed someone else if I weren't there fishi g
>>742468
Forgot pic of river
You can see the normal size of the river in the upper left
Il be on the upper side where the red dot is
At least somebody else out there is trying to fight the good fight against the sneks.
>>742456
If you want to know the glory of braid, I would spool up some 15lb or 20lb PowerPro on there. It will cast further than the 10lb mono.
>>742460
The main differences are that braid will be much thinner at the same line strength compared to mono. It floats (but so does mono) so some lures may run a bit more shallow. It is slightly more visible in the water compared to mono, but if you are running 15lb moss green, it should blend right in unless the water is tap water clear and the fish are super picky, but this can be solved with a flouro leader.
I went fishing today. Skunked. Someone tell mainebub to stop flounder fishing and get his bum in here; I need to talk to him.
Had to surgically remove my fav rap, literally the only lure that has got any bites this year.
>>742474
So should I replace the treb or just go with 1 in the back?
>>742460
>>742471
Didn't really mention why braid is so great.
First is strength. 30lb braid is the same diameter as 10lb mono. So if your reel holds 150yds of 10lb mono, you can do 150yds of 30lb braid or 200yds+ of 15lb or 20lb braid. I would run the 15lb or 20lb instead because you still get way more strength and will be able to cast lures much further compared to 10lb mono.
Braid also doesn't degrade like mono does. With mono, you have to change it out at least once a year or it will get really brittle. Braid, I've been told you run it for 2 years, then unspool it and put it on for another 2 years in the opposite direction. The longevity negates the price difference.
My favorite thing about braid is the fact that it doesn't have memory like mono. So you don't get those stupid loops in the line like you get on mono which also helps cast further. It is more flexible than mono too and I always feel like the knots tie better with braid.
Braid also doesn't stretch like mono, so you can feel every little bite or every rock if you are jigging along the bottom. Just gotta be careful not to set the hook as hard as you would do with mono because of this. If you set the hook real hard with braid, it's easy to pull it right out of the fish's mouth.
>>742478
Replace the treble hook. A lot of my bites are hooked on the rear when an indecisive fish nips the tail.
>>742486
Though it's worth mentioning braid tangles more
>>742491
I have never, once had that issue. If anything, mono has always been more prone to tangles for me because of the loops you get from the memory make tangles much worse.
>>742460
Also, if you do go with braid, you might want to do a mono backing on the spool. Braid is more slippery than mono, so if you spool it really loose, the whole bunch of line will slip and rotate around the reel spool before the drag kicks in.
Lots of newer reels will have little rubber parts on the spool to stop it from slipping. If not, you can get away without a backing as long as you keep the line real tight while spooling it. Otherwise you do 10yds-20yds of mono on the spool first (enough that it wraps around the knot a couple times) and then tie the braid to that and spool the rest of it with braid.
>>742311
It's called a spooltek, it was made specifically for snook fishing near bridges. It had a deployable steel cable leader that withstands damage far better than a 100lb mono leader and it prevents the fish from throwing the lure.
>>742455
>Same here in CT , don't have any lizards
That plastic isn't imitating a lizard, it's imitating a salamander - and there are plenty of those all over New England.
http://www.wildlifeofct.com/lizards%20and%20salamanders.html
>>742504
Just put some electrical tape on the spool it will be sorted.
>>742532
I'll have to give it a try, thanks for the tip!
My main worry is snags and losing tons of it. There's plenty of fallen trees and branches where I'm going.
How do you guys run buzzbaits? Steady retrieve at the top? Or buzz it at the top, let it sink for a second, buzz, repeat?
>>742509
Wow, that's some Inspector Gadget shit. I guess that way the bait doesn't get all chewed up either. I have some painted spinners that are pretty chipped up from bass and snakeheads.
>>742537
Most of the time, you will still break it at the knot just like mono. That's always the weakest part of the fishing line. If I'm running a reel with 20lb or 30lb braid, I will normally bend the hook off the snag or pop open the snap swivel before I break any line.
You could also buy yourself one of those 30yd spools of flourocarbon for leaders. If you run 20lb main line, run a 15lb flourocarbon leader. Flouro is the less visible of any line, so it will make it nearly invisible to the fish. Flouro also stretches more than braid so it will give you a lil shock resistance when you set hooks. It's good to have some flouro for leaders even if you don't run braid just in case you run into picky fish and clear water since it blends in with the water so well.
yo mainebub,
migratory micro schoolie stripers being caught on Cape Cod 12-14"
yeah babay!
>>742543
wow, didn't know. Thanks again! Granted all this will require a little investing, but hey I don't have anything except for a lineless rod and a few spoons, so I expected as much.
>>742545
We are already catching them all the way up the Connecticut river
>>742546
Dick's has the best prices on Power Pro. 300yd spools are $27.99 I think and 150yd spools are maybe $17.99 but not positive on the 150yd price. Bass Pro and Cabela's both want like $5 more for the 300yd spools.
All the retailers have sales on it too, Dick's just had it for BOGO 50% off. Power Pro is the way to go with braid too. There are some budget brands, but line isn't really something to cheap out on and not worth saving the $5. I run SpiderWire on a few of my rods (bought a few spools when it was on sale) and it is decent but it seems to fray much easier than Power Pro. Sometimes I have to cut off a few feet near the lure because the line frays a litte (either from the guides or rubbing on rocks and weed, not sure) but it only seems to be an issue on the rods with SpiderWire.
And the flourocarbon, if you want to grab that you should be able to find a shorter spool for cheap. I remember buying a 30yd spool of Berkley Vanish a couple years back and I think it was something like $5. Def less than $10. It's not necessary though but if you run 20lb braid with a 15lb flouro leader, you will always break the leader if you get a bad snag instead of losing a good chunk of main line.
If you ever get a snag though and have to pull on the braid to break it, make sure you wear a glove or I always wrap a rag around my hand. Otherwise you will cut your hand up something fierce. I accidentally got my finger caught in some 15lb trying to break the line a week or two ago and it was like a really bad papercut.
>>742415
>>742446
You're welcome my negro
>tackle dump incoming
The first two pics are plastics I usually have with me then rest I use as needed
>>742562
Top water shit
>>742565
Cranks and jerks
>>742566
And finally jigs and spinners. I forgot a couple, but most of the ones I left out are duplicates.
>>742569
Fuck it, I'll throw my rods in since I'm being an attention whore anyway.
Left to right:
Abu Garcia STX on a MH, fast action, 7' 3" rod No. 8 Tackle Blackout rod
Abu Black Max on a 7' medium uglystik
Abu Orra on a 6' 6" medium uglystik
Shimano Sedona 1000 on a 5' 6" light (may be ultralight) uglystik
I've bought almost all of this since the new year. I have a problem. Pls help.
I'm getting a new rod for the Orra once my tax return comes in, but I think I'll just leave the UL and Black Max on uglystiks since they stay in my car 99% of the time.
>>742559
Damn, you grabbed a lot of those Doomsday turtles. Have you used them much yet?
>>742565
>>742566
You should do the little rubberband trick instead of those hook keepers. I thought about buying those things but the rubber bands are so much easier plus they end up more compact.
>>742571
How do you like the Orra spinning reel? I wouldn't mind grabbing one of those. Plus it is a good price, not some cheap $40 but not $150+ like some of the Revos. I still kinda want a Symetre but I like Abus.
>>742569
You should send that unopend Mepps down over here, I will definitely use it.
>>742565
And if you use poppers a lot, I highly reccommend a Skitter Pop. The brown frog and firetiger have both done work for me. Reminds me I need to try out that Yo-Zuri popper I grabbed yesterday. I love the color schemes on those 3DB lures.
>>742574
>turtles
Nah I haven't used them that much. Once I can get out on the yak/boat I'll try them some more. I ordered them from the website so I grabbed one of every color to make it worth while. I've gotten some bites on them, but nothing seems to want to completely take it. I might have to try it like I've been using the lizards and go real slow with them.
>rubber band
You just changed my life. I those hook keepers were some extras my dad had so I figured I'd use them.
>Orra
I like it. It was the first nice spinning reel I got. It's all around pretty smooth in my opinion. Drag and feel and whatnot.
>>742578
Wut?
>>742581
I got a few more bites on those lizards but eventually got pissed because the cover was so damn heavy. I think I'm gonna try them weightless next time and kinda run them along the top of the weeds.
And for the rubber bands, grab some like pic related. I actually got this bag from some beauty supply store I was delivering to so maybe the beauty section of Walmart or any supermarket or grocery store will have them by the hair stuff. Best thing is this big bag of a couple hundred was free because owner was a bro who was tryin to become a trucker and askin a bunch of questions.
With the rubberbands though, be careful about keeping them next to soft plastics since some soft plastics have that shit that will melt other rubbers. Not sure what it is, but it didn't melt the natural colored rubberbands or these red ones, but it melted some black ones I actually got from Bass Pro in some saltwater rigging section. I'm thinking maybe the black ones were latex while the other ones were natural rubber.
>>742581
>>742586
Those rubberbands saved me so much damn frustration though, especially with how packed my crank box was. Sometimes it would take me 5min+ just to untangle one Rapala that I wanted to use.
Some anon here actually reccommended that to me like a year ago. Posted a Youtube video with a pro fisherman who keeps like 50 little cranks in a peanut butter jar and just bands them all up. Maybe I will try to find the video.
>>742550
just schoolies or are you getting any keepers yet?
>>742556
Damn dude, well we don't have Dicks up ihere in Canada, I'll check at Canadian tire though and try my luck there. I also think there's a Cabella's by vaughan I can go to, and hopefully the canuck prices arent too much. Maybe I'll get lucky and they're having a sale
>>742579
>unopened mepps
No it'll get used for sure. Just don't know when
>skitter pop
That's pretty much the only other thing I've been meaning to buy. I'm trying to lay off of buying shit for awhile since I don't really need anything.
>>742586
Yeah running them through weeds can be a bitch. When I get a bite I normally just stop and let it sit. Maybe give it a few tiny pops and they usually take it.
I'll keep an eye out for those rubber bands next time I go to the store. I don't usually keep my cranks next to the soft plastics so I think it'll be aight either way.
>>742566
Are those perfection pieces?
>>742365
those are some of my favorite fish to catch.
that's a nice one anon.
>>742415
those work stupid good around here, we have so many salamanders
>>742509
>>742501
.I'd imagine they wouldn't be bad for other inshore species. stripers are pretty good at throwing lures, this could be a good tool to have.
>>742526
go out in the woods near your house, turn up some old logs and the brush from last fall.
you will see swarms of sallies. hell sometimes we use them for live bait up here.
>>742586
those craw jigs are good shit.
No fish in the kayak, did see some sturgeons jumping, and all the cormorants that frequent the area seem to be back, even say a few with alewife in their mouths. Wicked windy today down at the sand flat I was going to drift. Tried a few drifts for flounder but I was moving too fast. Might bring a spare plastic bag with me and use it as a drift bag next time.
Good day though kayaked about 10 miles and fished all day, so I ain't made. The smell of saltwater also made a day without fish much more tolerable.
I really hope to fucking god you guys don't carry ALL that tackle with you when you fish. I couldn't justify lugging all that shit around to only use 2-3 lures during a line wetting session.
>>742586
>Wut?
probably the same guy that posted once about off shore being the only real fishing and never followed up.
>>742586
>>742591
*whoops Basspro, to be so lucky to have a cabellas haha
>>742594
All my stuff fits in my backpack with room for a rain jacket, snacks, drinks and a few emergency items
>>742594
I keep most of my shit in my backpackk along with water and snacks
Usually when I get to a pond I drop my pack and fish most alot of it , then il grab my pack and move down the shore a ways drop it again and go fish more
>>742592
http://youtu.be/0Ajf56haI04
Here's the video so you can see how to do it right and how simple it makes life. When you find those small rubberbands, it will be the best $2 ever spent.
I normally don't have cranks and soft plastics together either, but I had that little 6-slot box I keep in my back pocket and one of those rubber Storm lures, a jighead with a PowerGrub, and a crank with the black rubberband all in one slot and the rubberband melted all over everything.
>>742591
Ahh, you're in Canada. Well either way, PowerPro is one of the main companies for braid so they should sell it anywhere that carries fishing stuff. Walmart has it too.
>>742595
But wut did that little abbreviation even mean?
Also I agree I have way too much tackle, I don't reccommend anybody goes that far. It totally isn't necessary to have 5 diferent colors of the same exact size Rapala in order to catch fish. But it's fun to collect it and try out new lures in new places. Keeps it interesting even when you aren't catching much.
>>742593
?
>>742594
>I really hope to fucking god you guys don't carry ALL that tackle with you when you fish.
Nah. I keep most of it in my car. I have a bag for stuff I use a lot. I just grab some shit I think will work. I don't even expect to use most of it 95% of the time. I just like having extra incase I lost a bunch or I can give it to friends. Plus buying unnecessary shit is like half the fun of the sport.
>>742603
Awesome. I'll check it out.
>>742596
I thought about a Stradic, especially one of those nicer ones but goddamn it's gonna be rough to end up spending $500 on a combo. If I stopped buying $30-$50 in lures at least once a week and didn't drop $100-$200 on a combo every month or two, it wouldn't be a big deal.
I think I want to get a decent 1000 size reel with 6lb braid and put that on a nice rod like a St. Croix Mojo. Maybe I will stack up a lil for a Stradic. If not a 1000 size, maybe a nice 3000 size for 20lb braid.
>>742607
in your car is understandable; I just laugh about those plano boxes everytime I see one, because I picture some googan showing up to a spot with one.
>>742596
that's cute.
was thinking of picking one of those up in the smallest version they make it.
>>742594
BUUUUUUB
I was fly fishing today and need to talk to you. What would it cost to get you to tie me about a dozen small simple flies?
I want custom streamers.
You see the marabou jigs in pic related? I need flies like that, but instead of being tied on a jig, tied on a fly hook with a bead or two. I basically want a marabou jig minus the jig
>>742622
Forgot the pic
>>742594
>I really hope to fucking god you guys don't carry ALL that tackle
You don't know who you're talking to...
But anyway, all of my stuff fits in my bag (although it is heavy as fuck). I can park real close to the water at most places I fish, so I will often just leave my bag in the grass somewhere close to where I'm fishing. And then I'll put whatever I want to use on 2 or maybe 3 rods and start walking up and down the shore with just the rods.
Otherwise I have that small 6-slot box and I can load that up with a few lures and toss it in my back pocket. If I'm going to walk quite a bit, I will just do that.
I'm still thinking about grabbing a Plano Weekender 3500 to carry around with me. Or I need to get back to Gander Mtn and get that small store-brand one that they sell. I like that one a lot. Pic related is the Gander Mtn one, I think it's 2 or 3 3500? size boxes and one small 6-slot box in that pocket.
I'm also thinking about the worm binder. Bass Pro's tackle bag selection was wiped out yesterday though. I'm just not sure how bulky the binder will be with 20-30 bags of soft plastics.
>>742633
not him/them but what channel is yours? NE F&E by chance?
Hey all I just got back from the store, I was the guy asking about info for beginners two days ago. I ended up with a Berkley 7' medium power rod, with a Quantum Triax reel. He wound it up with 120 yards of 10lb line for free. Cost for both was $55, which was below what I was expecting to spend. The guy seemed to know what he was talking about and told me of a few places to fish around my town. He said for catching small mouth, crappie and walleye I won't need anymore rod than that, especially just starting out.
We picked up some lures, a Flicker Shad, Pop-R, an Aguila spinner. Also got some lead shot and some single hooks. My friend and I got our fishing license today, and we are going out to catch some suckers this weekend.
No pics, because they will be shit tier phone pictures, but I can post some better ones tomorrow. How did I do /out/?
>>742612
>Bass Pro and Cabela's are pretty much the same.
Bass pro gets BTFO by Cabelas for pretty much anything that's not spincasting or baitcasting.
>>742643
Cool man, I'm glad you went to the local place and got some help. Hopefully the rod and reel treats you well. Rock that for a year or so and when you get some experience and figure out what you want you can drop a little more money.
It's cool he spooled it up for you too. And now you have proper hooks and weights. Def post pics of everything.
>>742607
Bruh, I'm at Walgreens and they even have the rubberbands.
>>742633
As soon as I figure out how on YouTube's new lay out
>>742643
Lucky! what store was it? sounds like some local shop that likes helping out.
>>742653
It was a larger place called Jay's Sporting Goods. About the size of a Gander Mountain, but it is owned by a family and they only have two stores, the second they just opened. I've bought firearms and clothes from them as well. Staff are very nice and knowledgeable, and if they don't know something, they get someone who does instead of bullshitting you to make a sale. I'd much rather support them than a chain store.
>>742648
So fly fishing? My Bass Pro has a decent lil fly fishing selection but never been in there much. But every Bass Pro and Cabela's I have been too have a very similar selection and the prices are all competitive.
>>742643
>and told me a few places to fish around my town
I knew that would be one of the best things about going to a local place instead of Dick's.
trying to decide where to go next time i go out maybe tomorrow, help me pick out, have access to river, brook and even ponds lakes
I've always had the best luck on red specked watermelon plastics. What size hook do y'all normally use with plastics?
>>742651
>Walgreens
Sheeeeit. There's a Walgreen's right next to my walmart. Next time I go get gas I'll check it out.
I want to buy a canoe for fishing and frog gigging. Any suggestions for canoes?
>>742665
4/0 normally
>>742665
Really depends on the size of the lure. Usually 4" and under I'll use a 3/0 then for something 5-8" I'll use a 4/0 or even a 5/0 sometimes.
>>742665
Depends. 3/0 or 4/0 seem to work well for a lot of creature baits that are a little fatter. Worms I can go smaller and still weedless rig them. But sometimes it takes fat hooks to rig flukes weedless. I have some #6 Mustad baitholders that seem giant until I gotta rig up one of those Zoom flukes ot something similar.
>>742666
Yeah man they are by the combs and hair bands n shit. I'm sure Walmart has them too in the hair section.
>>742664
someone hep me decide man
>>742687
Post ur city and I will google maps it
>>742689
farmington ct, google the highschool and thats a pretty decent central spot to look from theres a bunch of spots i ma not be ale to get to ut theres also a bunch of other spots i can get to
I'm torn. It costed me 77 dollars to buy new brake pads (I've been running on engine braking and a little bit of rear brake for about a week now) so I will be willing to go farther to fish
But that begs the question
My "fun" fund has just over 90 dollars in it
Do I get some cabellas waders or a cheap fly combo that is better suited to panfish and small trout?
I can wear swim trunks under my pants and put my pants and boots in my backpack and handle summer pretty well, but it would be nice if I didn't have to get wet.
I can catch panfish on my 7 wt and have on numerous occasions but Its would be easier and more fun on a 3-5 wt
Mainebub tell me how to spend this money.
Its burning a hole in my pocket
>>742698
id like to keep it pretty close since i like to walk alot of the places i go , though i woud e willing to travel up to avon/canton (slightly north) some time later the week
>>742692
Damn, you got a lot of lakes right there provided you can fish from shore or launch a kayak.
It's strange looking at Google Maps and seeing so many trees and so few parking lots. Kinda the same way when I was looking for stuff around Skid's area.
>>742700
The fuck are those in the middle of this island? Looks like trailers for a semi truck.
>>742702
floating docks they ring them in in the fall that lake is private, no way to easily sneak in
>>742700
Hard to tell which spots are accessible from shore when looking at Google Maps since there are so many trees. If it were me, I would end up at a little lake like pic related. Assuming you can get to the shoreline, there is parking right there and it just looks like commercial areas around the lake.
I forget, so you have a kayak or anything? Or you going from shore?
>>742702
that's where pepsi trucks go after their work on this earth is done. it's their valinor.
>>742662
And guns and camping and boating and pretty much every outdoor activity that doesn't involve bass, catfish or panfish.
>>742704
that pond is actually the best ass fishing in the area, i have caught 30 or more bass out of there over 4 lbs but its private now ive een meaning to find the new property owners and ask permission
>>742695
Don't get anything; save your money for something better.
>>742707
You must have a shitty Bass Pro near you then.
>>742703
Is that the place you were saying is almost like a country club or some weird shit like that?
Also, pic related is a lil drive but looks like you could get to a lot of the lake on the north side.
>>742711
Bass pro isn't shitty, just worse than Cabelas.
>>742711
never fished that, id like to keep it close this time of year, until i have my kayak rigged up and yes it is kind of like country clu
>>742708
Kek, I know how to spot them.
There is pic related which at least looks easy to fish from shore. Provided there aren't a bunch of casuals and nigs all around pissing you off.
Gonna hit up some local ponds tomorrow. Hopefully I don't get harassed by old people. Most people around here are cool though as long as you aren't a dick.
>>742714
>2
that pond is actually one of the few walleye ponds around here, though its near part of a shitty town so theres a bunch of nigs and mexicans who keep a bunch of fish so fishing there isnt great and the water quality is really shit
>>742695
save it, or waders.
>>742720
I still want to see him try to make his own Walmart waders with cheap rain boots, overalls, duct tape, and a couple cans of Flex Seal.
>>742716
There's a few little ponds in New Britain that are all around baseball fields and public parks. They aren't too big but hopefully they aren't overfished. In IL, I had some ponds like that but they weren't really worth it for bass. Could go out there and get some carp or channel cats a lot of the time, as well as tiny bluegill for days.
Pic related looks like a good area to check out on a Saturday or whatever when you have the whole day free. Lots of these lakes look like you could either get there from a main road or just skirt private property and get to the shoreline. Pond hop from spot to spot all day.
>>742725
new rittain isnt the est area proably overfished by nigs, thats why i said farmington avon and canton dont worry aout looking for access i can figure that out as long as it isnt private
>>742716
Right here is definitely a spot I would be at on a Sunday afternoon for sure. These are the ones that are normally bassholes.
>>742297
I like this box. That's a good variety.
>>742725
I also want to see him attempt to do that.
Hey /ftt/, amateur angler wish a question.
Fishing season is about to open in Washington for a lot of the inland lakes and such, and there is a statewide derby for select bodies of water.
I just bought the "ultimate fishing manual" guide, and I have been doing some research on the side as well.
I wanted to ask you though - what would you use to fish for largemouth bass and rainbow trout in a lake at 5am?
My friend has a small barge I plan to use - would trolling be more effective than short fishing?
Can you guys recommend an ideal set up for a rod?
I appreciate any input given.
>>742727
You got a lot of shoreline to fish at this place. Plus it's kinda narrow so if you want to run something in deeper water, you should be able to cast out that way.
And I'm looking in the little more populated areas because those are often the ones with industrial and commercial areas that have manmade ponds where nobody fishes. They will have tons of shore access because they mow the grass around the lakes and you can normally park right by the lake on a Sunday afternoon and everybody will leave you alone.
>>742734
those are the areas everyone fishes all the nigs do , no one fishes the ponds in farmington avon and simsury ecause theres few nigs there, and the whities are fishing the rivers for trout
>>742736
ccanton too
>>742733
>short fishing
You mean shore fishing?
And I would reccommend something like I posted here >>742293 and >>742311
At 5am, if the water is fairly calm and you can see the bass jumping, I might run some topwater like poppers. That is normally feeding time for largemouth as long as the weather is right. So if not topwater, you should be able to get away with shallow running crank baits, spinners, or rubber flukes. This is all assuming your water is getting warmer. If it is really cool at the time and the bass aren't even in pre-spawn mode yet, might have to run some jigs or Texas rigged worms real slow along the bottom.
>>742698
Well 30-something front and back then 9 dollars shipping... Plus it's so hard to find pads for an 07 klr650. Everyone has rear pads but the front pads...
And that's what's going on with me. Head says waders heart says rod.
>>742745
yes, shore fishing. Tapped the wrong key.
Any ideas?
>>742751
derp, man today is not my day.
*thanks for the* ideas
I am just going to go out there and give it an old college try - I will reference your posts and what i can find around town/in my book.
>>742733
>>742740
Idk shit about trolling. I always thought a lot of people ran spoons and Kastmasters n stuff quite a bit. Or in a deeper area, sometimes those longer banana-shaped deep diving cranks.
>>742733
Depending on the size of the trout, you may want to be running two different setups. If you want to go hard for the big largemouth in cover like weeds and underwater tree branches, you can run 10lb-12lb mono on a 7' medium or medium-heavy rod. If the trout are smaller, they might get spooked by the same line and tackle so...
Idk much about the trout fishing, but for the largemouth in the early morning, fishing right at the edge of weed beds and dropoffs is probably gonna be the way to go. Like I said, that's when they will be lookin for some smaller fish to feed on so some nice sized shallow diving cranks or spinners should get em going. Or topwater like poppers and possibly buzzbaits if the wind and water is calm and the bass are jumping.
>>742740
I use the cheap method from canoe when trolling. I target both bass, trout, and togue with the same technique.
3 way swivel
one tied with braid 10# 1' with 2oz surf weight
one tied with flouro 12# to either a spoon, grey ghost, or panther martin inline spinner #15
I find the grey ghost to be most effective. This is a good alternative to expensive lead line setups, and can produce just as effectively.
You can use a wide variety of lures, and even bait with this method, so don't limit yourself to a few spoons, experiment.
I find grey ghost flies work well, and basic red with white stripe spoons.
ok guys what are the basics I should have in my kit? worms, cranks, spoons, hooks, jigs?
I dont have the basics so I'm wondering what the specifics are that you guys frequently use.
Thanks!
>>742775
>>742775
You pretty much got it down.
You'll probably want some jig trailers. Just use crawfish soft plastics if you can't find actual ones. Maybe some swimbaits, lizards, or grubs.
I would also definitely get some spinners. Either mepps or traditional. Honestly walmarts store brand traditional spin baits aren't that bad for $0.99.
>>742775
I'm tryin to work something out here where I can list the products but gotta find a halfway decent editor for muh iPhone
The biggest roach minnow I've ever got. Finally enough material for a video.
>>742771
>>742792
Hey Maine why do I lose the outer two most feathers on my Gray ghosts? They just fall off in the first 15 minutes or so of fishing. Nothing else just those two.
>>742792
Also get back on the YouTubes we need moar talk
>>742790
>>742782
Thanks guys!
I've tried to read up a bit and you have :
the popping frog
senko worms- wacky rigged
finesse worms- texas or shaky rigged
I think I read about a topwater shad?
and I also read about trick worms but idk the difference between them and a finesse, why one over the other.
and looking at this thread a chartreuse zoom lizard too haha. I know I'm missing a ton of staples
Don't know much else though. I need to figure out what size and style of hooks to go buy too
>>742701
>so many trees and so few parking lots
I laughed. FLA is such a pit
>>742748
Waders and wait until you come across that sweet golden nugget used 5w
Gonna happen.
>>742811
Not any different from when I lived right outside Chicago. Just sayin the few people here whose area I was checking out live in extra-suburban, almost rural areas.
>>742790
So can anybody clean this shit up for me with a PC and MS Paint or whatever photo software? Original pic was posted earlier in the thread.
I was thinking about adding weights and sizes to the lures too, but it's such a mess with any mobile program anyway, it wasn't worth it.
I wish I could at least get the text consistent but I went througn like 5 different apps until I found one that would actually make the text small enough to fit all 14 of the descriptions.
>>742818
That's what I'll do then.
>>742805
>I need to figure out what size and style of hooks to go buy too
3/0 and 4/0 widegap hooks. Pic related. They'll work for almost any lure you get. You'll want to grab some bullet weights and some split shot too.
Honestly you could probably just get a couple different size/color curly tail worms, lizards (any creature bait really) if you want, and some pre-rigged swimbaits (berkley powerbait or storm are the brands I'd suggest) and you'll catch fish.
Then watch some videos on YouTube on how to fish whatever you get. You don't have to buy a bunch of stuff to get set up.
Or you could just get one of everything in >>742830 and see what style of fishing you like the best.
>>742455
where in connecticut are you? i just moved to florida from milford
>>742842
farmington
>>742830
>>742790
Cleaner now...
What do you goys think?
>>742840
Craigslist has a garage sale or whatever it's called section.
+ sportings good has a lot of fishing gear in my area
Pawn shops...
skid I got you bro, ill message you when I have a few tied.
>>742818
>>742720
>Be me
>Look up waders on craigslust for Shits and giggles
>Fly fishing gear.png
>Two 4/5 wt rods
>Spinning rod
>Waders
>Parachute bag
>random odds and ends
>Look like the same product line of the rod I've already got but in a different weight
>Allegedly custom reel
Should I make this prick an offer on one of the rods?
I might go yakking for fluke/flounder in the morn. Rain is supposed to blow through by 9ish.
Also broke down and ordered the Git2 action cam. I've got a face & voice made for radio and absolutely hate social media but I'm gonna try to record some trout and inshore stuff and set up a youtube thingy...
Probably do it like flukebuster with that overdub voice.
>>742871
this would be great. I'm googling to make myself a shopping list now, but might post it here as a basic guide for you guys to critique
>>742874
>an offer
$20, 30 at best
told you it would come....
>>742873
You have pink thread on hand?
>>742880
yes, and all the other mats
>>742871
It would be cool to do something like /o/'s sticky with rods, reels, and line. It would take me ages though since I'm always just on my phone and have no software like that on my ol' laptop.
Anon made this thing on baitcasters, but he has a hard-on for Shimano and Daiwa and hates everything else. Plus it's kinda hard to compare one reel over another unless somebody has owned and used every single one extensively. And a $200 Shimano reel and $200 Abu reel should both be really nice and compete with eachother. A $100 Daiwa isn't going to be better than a $300 Abu.
>>742883
Hellz yeah. When you get the first one tied post a pic in here
>>742877
>>742885
If I'm rained in tomorrow I'll start on it. I'd probably just mention the big brands for reels and say stick to spinning reels at first. Go over line, rods, lures, ect... And then how and where to fish some of the lures. As well as color selection. If I start on it I'll post it here for corrections/suggestions.
>>742887
Probably won't be until tomorrow
>>742885
Wright and McGill sabalos!
>>742889
I think you should start with one for reels and another one for rods. I don't think you need to really do "pros & cons" but maybe just some features of each reel. Maybe organize it by price range and do like 5 reels in each price bracket ($30-$50, $60-$100, $100-$150 for spinning reels).
Lures are really too much to get into as far as comparing brands, unless yoi want to make a chart saying how to rig them and fish them, like spinners, poppers, diving cranks, etc.
>>742892
Have you actually gotten to the lake with that thing yet?
>>742889
yea colors keep stumping me on some of them. the go to's are pumpkin green, watermelon and purple. but then you have those stupid flakes that are pointless. Still I'm almost done my list of basic lures, will post at somepoint, and we can work this out.
>>742898
>I think you should start with one for reels and another one for rods
Good idea. I'll see how the space if I do it and if it needs to be separate or it'll work.
>price range
Also good. There's just so many different reels it's hard to narrow it down.
As far as lures I wasn't really going to go into brands, just types of lures, how to rig them, and how to fish them.
>>742905
>>742898
And where to fish the lures, like what structures to look for and stuff.
>>742904
Yeah I don't think the flakes make THAT much of a difference. I was just gonna say black for muddy water, dark for stained, really any color for moderately stained/clear water, then natural colors for clear water.
>>742905
I mean I would just to the main ones. Maybe mention a store brand from Bass Pro and Cabela's in there since they are worthwhile competitors now.
And not like you really have to delve into the sizes or anything. All of them have similar sizes. I mean if it's going to be a sticky type deal, you could keep rods and reels <$100 since anybody dropping more than that and the buyer probably knows what they are looking for. And I wouldn't even worry about getting into memecasters for a bit for the same reason as $200 spinning reels.
At least that's how I would do it. If you kept it <$100, you could probably do 20 reels, maybe 25, and cover almost everything worthwhile. That would cover one ~$40 reel and one ~$80 reel from each of the major companies. And if you do it like a chart or spreadsheet deal, you can have boxes for bearings/type, sizes and line capacity, materials, and extra features.
Rods would probaby be an even smaller chart keeping it <$100, maybe closer to 15 that you can find most places.
>>742908
>where to fish the lures
Definitely. Season, weather, water conditions, time of day, species that will bite em. That sounds like a fun and really useful one.
I would like to see the lure one covering all the basic lure categories, then spinning reels and rods <$100. Put that in a Pastebin or Imgur or whatever and we could link it in every OP.
>>742594
Those reusable cloth shopping bags make an excellent makeshift drift sock. I use a similar bag made of some kind of durable plastic. Get the biggest one you can find. You can use two for extra slowing power.
>>742911
>And I wouldn't even worry about getting into memecasters for a bit for the same reason as $200 spinning reels.
I wasn't going to. I think if someone was just starting out they'd birdsnest and get pissed and quit.
>spreadsheet
That sounds like a good way to do it.
>>742913
Awesome. I figure that would be easier to do than to have someone type it out every time someone ask. It might take awhile for me to get everything together, but I'll be sure to keep y'all updated on it if I do it.
>>742914
Damn that's a cool idea.
>>742905
Want to start compiling a list of reels and rods <$100 for this? I'm gonna throw in a few I can think of right now. And I think besides the couple store brand rods/reels, we should do popular ones that are available at almost any major retailer.
>Reels
Shimano Sienna & Sedona, Abu Garcia Cardinal SX and Orra(?), Pflueger President and maybe a cheaper one like the Triton, Daiwa Laguna, Okuma Stratus V... I will look more into that tomorrow since my alarm will be going off in 4hrs.
>Rods
SHAKESPEARE UGLY STIK, Shimano Sellus, St. Croix Triumph, Abu Vendetta and I think Vengeance is the cheaper one, Fenwick Eagle, Berkley Lightning Rod (Shock), and then Bass Pro does the Graphite Series I believe for $40 and the Bionic Blade (may have changed/disco'd) for around $80.
Those are just a few I think should be included in the list.
And for the rods, I think the categories should be sizes, weights, actions, handle type, blank material if applicable, guide type, and I'm sure more.
If I had and were profficient in a program to do this, I would totally get on it. But like I said, it took forever just to make that Bass infographic deal look OK with these mobile apps.
>>742922
>>742926
I've got a super ugly looking list with just popular items I've found and put on a possible shopping list:
senkos worms (4”-5”)- watermelon(red/black flake) and greenpupmkin (watermelon flaked or not)
Finnesse worms and Zoom trick worms
Zoom lizards (chartreuse)
hula popper
weedless frog (bullfrog color)
mepp spinners (black fury)
spinner bait- (chartruese and white w/ gold blade)
brush hog- (green pumpkin)
speed craw (blue or green pumpkin)
crankbait- (shad/ XPS tri-vibe)
booyah jig- (black and blue)
red devil - (red spoon w/ white stripe)
Misc- Heddon super hook and Gamakatsu work hook, powerpro braided.
Knots to know: clinch and pallomar
now things I'm not that familiar with:
rooster tails, rattle traps, football jigs - IDK colors
and that's about it for the general stuff i have. This is from a relative new guy trying to come back into fishing after all these years. Advice, tips, critique?
>>742885
I do think that Shimano and Daiwa are well established brands. I like that their reels are consistent and are often used as benchmarks for other reels.
With manufacturers like Abu and Lew's, they outsource manufacturing. That's not to say that a reel made in Korea is worse than a reel made in Japan or Malaysia. They spend time perfecting one frame, and then use that one frame for a wide range of products to match different price brackets. I find it hard to justify spending a lot of money on a product with the same frame, materials and technology as a lower tier model. Try palming a Revo STX for example, and then a Revo SX. It should be very similar.
>Plus it's kinda hard to compare one reel over another unless somebody has owned and used every single one extensively
That's true. Unless you're Cal from tackletour, your probably not qualified to make an assertion that one reel is better than another. The reason why I didn't put a lot of higher end Abu reels is because the lower end models offer similar performance and the features added as you go up the ladder don't add up to much. With Shimano and Daiwa, frames change, line guides change, gear size and materials change, bearings change etc.
Also, Abu could be offering more to the american angler. They have a wide assortment of awesome gear made specifically for the japanese market that would be awesome for us, like the Revo LT. Anyways, the revo lineup is due for a refresh anytime soon, so I'll update the chart once reviews come out and I get my hands on one.
>>742926
>>742922
For the reels, the Orra S is the good one for that chart at $70. Lew's Lazer Speed seems to be a popular one for <$50, and then there's also the Penn Fierce II reels for $70-$80. Pflueger Purist as well for another one around that $70-$80 range.
Anybody have an idea for a Daiwa around that $75 range that is popular and sold most places? I know that Excelcer is sold lots of places but I always see that in 3500 and 4000 sizes so it is pretty big. And the Laguna should def be on there but that is also a $40 reel and I think we need Daiwa represented with a more expensive one too.
Also, need another Okuma that is popular and sold most places, maybe 2 so we can have one around $40 and one around $80. The Stratus is actually a Dick's only reel but still pretty easy to find since the US has a ton of Dick's stores.
There are like 10 Shimanos for <$100, but I think we should keep it to 2-3 reels from each make just for the sake of simplicity and being able to read the final product.
>>742926
>>742934
>>742938
Damn, that's a pretty good start I think. We can get more tomorrow. I gotta be up in a couple hours so I'm gonna to bed.
If anyone else has input I'll gladly take it. I don't have that much experience with different rods and reels, so if there's one you guys like in the >$100 range let me know.
I guess I'll start tripping for the purpose of this infographic thing I've taken on.
>>742934
So this is a shopping list for youself?
Either way, Rooster Tails are the same as Mepps pretty much. And Black Furies are good for dark and real murky water, but if you own one Mepps, I would do an Agila with a gold blade and brown skirt. The yellow and black Black Fury is great though, but better for specific conditions.
Your Booyah jig is a football jig just to get that out of the way. You got the baitholder hooks, but I think you should add a pack of Zoom SuperFluke Jr's in there. Also bullet weights for dem Texas rigs.
You have a pic of that XPS crankbait? Does it have a lip? Otherwise it could be just like a rattle trap. If it is lipless, I would add a deep diving crank and a Rapala-type floating crank that dives shallow.
You got a nice lil list going there though.
>>742937
I bet you really like Benchmades too.
>>742945
benchmade has stupid great customer service desu,
>>742945
I don't know shit about knives. But I do know what the BEST knife is.
>>742942
I wanna help.
>>742945
it's a lipless- looks like they dont make it anymore.
Glad you like the list- yea it's for me, I only have some varied sized spoons. Nothing else- I'm the mono going braid guy from earlier
I don't plan on getting everything but maybe some highlights.
I don't know anything about cranks, or even hooks for that matter. This list was just compiled by some careful searching of what seems to be the most popular/widely used items.
>>742948
Pic related. I could refute everything you posted, but it will be like a political argument where nobody will change their minds. If Abu didn't make nice baitcasters in the same price brackets as Shimanos, they wouldn't be in business. I wouldn't hesitate to buy most Shimano and Daiwa stuff if it fit my needs, but there is worthy competition out there.
>>742950
If it's lipless and kinda flat on a vertical plant, I'm sure it's a "Lipless Rattling Sinking Crank" kinda like I posted earlier. There are a bunch of different types though.
Anything that looks like a "Rat-L-Trap" wth that kinda flat on a vertical plane body is normally going to be sinking and rattling and will wobble through the water. The big, bulbous cranks that are almost kidney shaped will float when not moving, but then dive when you reel. If they have a longer lip, they dive deeper. The ones with the square lip only dive a couple feet. Then there are the more long torpedo looking ones like typical Rapalas. Most of these will float and dive shallow when cranked. Lots of them are suspending though, so they will sit a couple feet under the surface. Maybe I will post a pic in a minute.
>>742953
Huh neat thanks, had no idea. Overall would you say this is a good list to start out with to get the basics of what one needs in their fishing kit? adding the weights that is. Idk the specific names/brand types of the various cranks you mentioned yet so I can add them.
>>742953
Yeah I'm probably letting my personal feelings get into it. Maybe it's because shimano and daiwa have that pedigree marketing and feel.
I just want to get the last word in on the pic tho. Shimano owns that malaysia plant, whereas the facility that Abu uses for the revos are also used by Pflueger and Lew's reels.
>>742950
>>742955
Yeah, the list looks bretty good. You def need some 1/4oz bullet weights and I would grab something like the Zoom flukes. A Rapala or two wouldn't hurt. Original and/or Husky Jerk.
So pic related is pretty much 2 of each of the main types of cranks that you will see. Top left are regular diving cranks. I think those will normally run like 6'-10' deep depending on how fast you reel and line and all that shit and then they float to the top when you stop reeling. Top middle is squarebill cranks, they float when not moving but will normally dive 3'-5' when cranked. Top right are the lipless rattlers. They sink when not being reeled, so you keep em suspended by reeling them in and they normally wobble a bit too.
Bottom left is going to be a suspending jerkbait. They dive slightly when reeled, and they just suspend when you stop reeling them. Rapala Husky Jerks and X-Raps are a couple types of these lures.
Bottom middle are floating and shallow diving cranks. The top one is a Bass Pro brand I think and the bottom is an "Original" Rapala. They look real similar to the suspending jerkbaits, but most of the time you see that body shape, it will be floating and shallow diving unless the package specifically says "Suspending" or something similar. Those are a great lure. You crank it a few times, let it stop and suspend a could feet under water, twitch it a couple times, and the fish love to hit them on that pause or as soon as you start moving them after the pause.
And finally, bottom right are some real deep divers. They will normally float when not being reeled, but will shoot down to 8'+ as soon as you start cranking them in.
Hope that helps explain it a bit.
>>742960
This helps a ton! Thanks so much!
Only clarification- if possible with jerkbait/crankbait go for the suspending option when possible? Also thanks a ton for dropping the names, helps a lot!
>>742963
>suspending vs floating/diving
Idk man, I have a bunch of each. I guess it decides on the situation. That's basically Original Floating Rapala vs Rapala Husky Jerk. If you want to run really shallow and keep it above the weeds that are 2' under the surface, than the Original Floating is a good choice. Husky Jerks will normally run a few feet deeper. I probably use Husky Jerks more often. If I can run a lure 3'-4' deep without getting hung up on a bunch of suff, I would use the suspending Husky Jerk. If you get one, maybe Youtube ot Google the technique for fishing them. They wobble a bit on their own, but that little pause when using Husky Jerks is a great move.
There is also the X-Rap which is a newer line of Rapalas that acts kinda like the Husky Jerks. They are a little pricey around $10ea, but I have been loving the action and color combos lately. Pic related is one of my favorite lures. I have 3 different sizes of the same X-Rap because I have had such good luck with it.
>>742798
Pepsi guy
What exactly do you want done to that pic of the four feathery hooks?
I can edit shit for ya - i am feeling disturbingly altruistic right now.
>>742970
Thanks a ton man, I'll explore some more on the subject. Defintley search up the techniques to see them in action.
>>742971
I think I'm ok with it now, I finally found an editing app and a process that made it turn out halfway decent (I think). I was really having trouble earlier getting the text at the bottom to not look like shit.
>>742971
>>742974
Forgot to add pic related.
>>742972
No problem mang. And there are plenty other brands to choose from but Rapala is one of the standby's and they carry a ton of them everywhere.
Feel free to post and ask about brands and stuff too. I'm always down with Yo-Zuri stuff and Strike King makes some nice lures too. And if you want to do it on a budget or don't feel like snagging $50 worth of lures at that lake with a lot of branches underwater, you can always go with some cheaper stuff. The Bass Pro XPS brand honestly isn't bad at all, especially considering they are 50%-70% less than a lot of the major brands.
And as far as colors go with crankbaits, gold and silver are my #1 choice in most situations. 2nd choice for color would be "firetiger" aka the bright green with orange, yellow, and normally black stripes. Always worth having some stuff in firetiger for murky water or cloudy and darker days.
>>742980
Nice to know, yea the lakes I'll be going to up north, I know one one of them is full of trees at the bottom, the other has the nastiest bottom I've ever had the misfortune of stepping on while swimming. Pure sinking sludge.
At least now I have an idea of what to look for when I go to bass pro later this week to pick up my gear.
>>742980
>>742972
Pic related would be some of my go-to colors.
Top is just a nice silver shad with maybe a tiny bit of blue. Next is some gold shad, I think I do a little better with gold than anything else.
Middle is the firetiger. Every company will have stuff in firetiger colors. Next is normally gonna be called chartruese which is almost a flourescent yellow. Sometimes Rapala does a "Mustard" which is like one shade less bright than chartruese and works well. And bottom is going to be "Sexy Shad", lots of Strike King lures come in that color combo and it's a good one.
If you have some clear water and the fish are being picky, you can do a real natural bluegill or baby bass color too. Rapala also has a perch color that is popular as well as some trout color lures but I don't mess with perch or trout really since they aren't in lakes down here anyway.
It's way too late, I'm gonna be fucked tomorrow at work. Oh well.
Anyone know much about rainbow trout fishing in lakes?
Should I stay near the short or use my mini dingy raft to go near the middle?
Is it even going out on the lake if I dont plan to troll?
>>742984
Well I appreciate the time you're taking with the posts. I've definetly learned a lot, so thanks! Hopefully tomorrow, with the list guy we can refine and compile something worth stickying!
Then the real challenge of seeing how much I can get of it on a budget the following day begins haha,
>>742733
>rainbow trout in a lake at 5am?
A 6wt fly rig with a streamer, stripped by weed beds.
>>742990
Keep an eye out for sales too, especially since you are just building up a collection so you don't have to be super picky. If you have a Gander Mtn nearby, they may still have some good clearance shit. The one by me had a ton of disco'd stuff after the holidays and they may still have a couple bins. All the Dick's nearby reset their fishing sections a month or two ago and they have had a lot of stuff on clearance too. Dick's has some good sales on lures from time to time as well.
Walmart and other big department stores will have random clearance bins with fishing stuff too so I always take a look when I'm at a store like that. I know Mainebub killed it with clearance stuff at Marden's a few weeks ago.
Most of the time I'm at Bass Pro, I end up paying full price for most things. They had 20% off Zoom baits over the weekend though so I guess that's ok. I go to Bass Pro when I want to be really picky about lures.
And if you do Bass Pro or Dick's, make sure to sign up for the rewards program. Dick's will send you a $10 off coupon right after you sign up and then you get $10 in credit for every $300 spent. Bass Pro's adds up after awhile but not as good as Dick's. Probably ends up at around 2% unless you really take advantage of the double and triple points purchases.
>>743012
I don't go on there. If we do a pastebin, we can just post a link in the OP.
And other TX anon is gonna make the litte tables for rods and reels I believe. I'm excited for that. I would do it if I was on that NEET status and could into computers.
