qt trainhopper edition
muh grls
What was wrong with the old thread?
>>722104
300 is the bump limit right?
>>721668
>names
Sometimes. It's a pretty serious faux pas to give yourself your own nickname in my opinion. On the other hand, you do have to make the decision to introduce yourself as the nickname if you aim to actually go by it, so in some respects you do have to choose to roll with the name-unless you've got a road dog following you around telling everyone to call you something else. A lot of nicknames arise from a newbie coming and landing in an established scene where we end up identifying them by some quality or trait which often signifies the kind of trip they're on, alternatively it could just be a visual aspect of their character.
I've had the same name for years, before that it was just my regular name, but I began to introduce myself as the nickname a few others gave me and while I've went through the strange identity problems one winds up going through upon sticking with an odd, clearly unnatural name that isn't even 'cool', I've ridden out these minor waves and it's continued to shape my character in various ways. It's hard to describe what exactly goes through ones mind when a girl cries out your traveling name during sex. Something that I've noticed a lot in other people is the tendency of one to suddenly begin questioning ones identity when under the influence of psychedelics. You blast off on too many hits of L and all of the sudden you're rethinking all your clothes and your name and your skin. Likewise, I've noticed solidifying the name through a trip, along with the trip itself. But that's discussion for another time.
With my name, even if I did settle down, I'd have to compound it into my pen name. Too many people know me by traveling name, I mean shit, an anon identified me in the last thread, the other day some girl who'd given me a ride to a festival a few years ago in Colorado recognized me in coffee shop in Oregon. It would be weird at this point for me to completely drop my name or change it.
>>722134
I think so, on the slower boards.
>>722104
Naked and Afraid
>>722135
how'd you get yer name? people call me damage, rainbows hate it. most folks tell me I'm too nice for it, but that's probably just because I don't fuck with people I'd end up being a dick to.
>>722410
not that anon (obviously), but what are rainbows?
How far have some of you guys walked? For how long do you generally walk a day if you have some sort of destination or place you'd like to go? Do you try to stock up on food, plan to go through towns, or just wing it and see what you can find as you go?
>>722437
Depends, sometimes walked 30-40km in a day. If you're train hopping you might get an unlucky roll and end up dropped off hours away from a highway. If you're hitchhiking you might get so tired of waiting that you walk down the road for hours until you get picked up, or you get dropped off somewhere where it's basically impossible to hitch and you have to walk until you can find a spot. Getting around cities is easy for me cause I use a custom skateboard. I pack Clif Bars for emergency food but that's only because I can actually make and safe up my spangle for useful things. It's more efficient to focus completely on getting to your destination than stopping to get resources everywhere.
What if youre panhandling and someone steals your can of change? Do you run after him or stay with your gear? It could be a setup to steal all of your gear right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jItspchEt5k
What are some good packs? What do y'all use?
I use my old backpack from high school when I go /out/ but it's gonna fall apart eventually. I want something durable and reasonably comfortable.
I'm not full vagabond yet but I'm considering the lifestyle.
>>722510
Marine corps pack
These are like $500 packs when new but used ones you can get for less than $100 at a milsurp store.
>>722516
What's the model called?
>>722519
ILBE gen 2 main pack
>>722510
Large Alice Pack w/ frame.
Its all you will ever need in a bag. Pouches up the ass not to mention what you can strap to it. I use one for camping all the time now.
Best part is you can buy them for under $50.
>>722410
Not the anon you were speaking to, but my nickname was pit bull/pit/pittie. I had a dog (not a pit bull type) that some guy I didn't know kicked for seemingly no reason, and I tried kicking that guy's ass for it. I got my own ass kicked several times, but I kept getting up until I got him down and he left. Next morning they were calling me all sorts of shit, Rocky, mongrel, but pittie bull stuck.
I also had June because I was born in July... That's something a tweaker got going and ended up sticking, also. He thought he was so fucking clever
I love the stories behind nicknames.
>>722542
I've heard that it's really uncomfortable.
>>722568
The main advantage is that theyre dirt cheap and durable. But theyre missing out on capacity and comfort. ILBE goy it all in my opinion
>>722577
>goy
got*
Wow that was unfortunate
Where are your ideal destinations? Portland seems like the place to be at the moment.
>>722560
>stories behind nicknames
Mine is tunnel, sometimes they call my friend spelunker.
What would be a good sleeping bag to use? Should I chose a bulkier sleeping bag for warmth, even though it would take up more space, or use a more lightweight bag that's colder?
>>722618
Depends on your climate. I don't even need a sleeping bag in the subtropics.
>>722498
Hey, you the one who shared that on the CHU?
>>722618
Whatever you do, dont buy a down bag, unless youre rubbertramping.
here's the bus I mentioned last thread
>>722787
are you with the vagabus?
>>722801
the vengabus?
>>722801
nah it's my bus, just bought it a little while ago. I'm converting it right now
>>722410
In the beginning over time several friends called me it because of the way I wore my pants/long wool socks. Before I had my dog I used to climb anything I could and many of my sleep spots involved a climb. Rolling your pants up gives you little kneepads that help climb. Also, sometimes I'd just go shoeless with my long wool socks, it was comfy. People who didn't know me referred to me as 'the kid with the socks' and a few random people decided calling me socks was easier than remembering my name.
>>722426
Rainbow Family, generally refers to someone who's following the rainbow gatherings around, but the name 'rainbow family' is often picked up by junkie and wingnut homebums who identify under that term. One thing you learn rather quickly is that anyone can subscribe to these flags and fly them but it doesn't mean they know shit about piss.
>>722437
While hitching I almost always make sure to keep some peanut butter and tortillas to sustain in case I can't make a spange or get stuck. Usually I don't leave the city for a trek until I have enough dollars to be comfortable in case I want to go really slow through small towns where there's no spange, but if I'm taking a route I know in places I've been, often I just wing it with the peanut butter tortillas.
These days I don't walk as far as I used to, I used to get impatient while hitchhiking and just start walking. My furthest single walk was~35 miles in a day, these days it's rare for me to get above 15 miles in a day, but that's because I don't just walk towards my destination city if I don't get a ride. Now, my 15 mile walk is a sprawling meander through the city towards the hitch spot on the other side. Anything under 5 miles but above a few city blocks is basically the same distance to me.
is rape prevalent in vagabonding?
>>722842
Are you hairy?
>>722853
not overly hairy, but have some bodyhair yes.
>>722510
Most of what goes on in the /out/ threads about backpacks is already spot on for picking a pack, personally I avoid older milsup but things like
>>722516
Can be kosher. Anything with a similar design will do you well. You don't want something overly designed with a bunch of extra weight while unable to suspend, and you don't want something low quality which will rip through the seams or break the clips once you put some miles on it.
I use a Kathmandu 70+10 at the moment, before that was an Eddie Bauer Backpack from Dicks or something (super low quality, 70l or something, terrible suspension), before that was an old external frame jansport which held weight great but was a hastle fitting into people's vehicles being a 4 and a half foot solid frame or whatevs, before that was an osprey 90l(actually was like 120l?)with absolutely no suspension and too much space, before that was a 55+10 high tec which I'd been forced into after my previous bag was stolen but ended up being a solid bag for my needs at the time (no dog, no shiny rocks, etc) and before that the bag that was stolen was a newer external frame kelty which was way too big for me despite holding weight well.
>>722444
>checked
Few people besides addicts panhandle with a change jar, and while you're correct in the possibility of someone running up to you, taking something laying about, then running off in an attempt to get you to chase after so they could take your stuff, in most situations and scenes you'd be able to sense such a thing before it happened and in acknowledging such will probably prevent it from happening in the first place.
It's as simple as not being a target, or even, choosing what kind of target others see when they see you.
>>722842
Women shouldn't travel alone. Even if it's not rape, the amount of extremely forward advances you will receive is baffling. I know many vagabond girls who wound up escorting early on during their traveling.
>>722586
Pfffhahaha no, don't ever imply that 'portland is the place' again anon. Portland exists as a springboard for junkpunks and scumfucs who think riding the rails between Eugene and Seattle while never actually venturing outside of the little hipster trainhopping punk scene is the end all be all of traveling and the lifestyle.
People from all over the East and Midwest come out West chasing these ideas about what these places are. You will be sorely disappointed.
I have no ultimate destination, but traveling the world and backpacking other places appeals to me.
>>722787
Looks good. Those shorties are always great when I see them, owners are usually really happy with the choice.
>>722618
During summer I use a down shell, the rest of the time I try to keep a medium to heavy sleeping bag good to ~20 Degrees(f) or so. Definitely nothing too big and bulky, but being compressed all the time will lower the rating of your bag, so bring something worth carrying in the first place for sure. Proper layering helps a lot too. In extreme situations, rolling up in your tarp can give you extra insulation. This winter it got down to 25 on me in Tucson, which is about as cold as I can take laying out in the open, with a bag only good to about 30 now.
>>722787
Im sure it has many hidden compartments for running your "family business"
>>722516
Didn't arcteryx make those?
Is there still a vagabond in Spokane visiting this thread? I'm looking to hear some stories. I'll buy a couple rounds and bring smokes.
tell us more about the OGs
how does a vagabond/rainbow earn respect for his person without resorting to violence or posturing? tweakers especially in mind
>>723117
Yea
>>721996
That "woman" is wilthy as fuck. Wouldnt touch her with a stick 2bh family
Is it possible for a european to come to america, stay for the maximum of 3 months, hop over to canada for 3 months, and back to america and so on?
>>723389
Same here. She's most likely crawling with diseases, undoubtedly shoots junk, and is just in general greasy and disgusting looking.
And just look at those dead fucking eyes. Bitch would stab you in the back for a crack rock for sure.
>>723433
If you can pass as a muslim or beaner you could honestly probably come over and just stay as long as you want.
>>723363
The OG Vagabond type are like a more fit, tanned version of Santa who brings little nuggets of wisdom instead of toys. It's a combination of time spent on the road and applying themselves to go far. They're few and far between, often they reach a certain age and retire into an RV or a spot they scoped out innawoods as a kid. They're the kind of guy who has a fishing pole strapped to his pack and actually uses the damn thing, knows all the good fishing, etc.
>respect
You have to understand there's many more subgenre than simply "vagabond/rainbow" and a hilarious amount of posturing goes on. Something that draws you respect in some circles could garner distaste in others. The only real way to increase your respect across the board is by traveling inna backpack, I'd say. This will increase your exposure to all facets of the life, assuming you're actually moving around to new places and really exploring the places you do know, it's impossible for you not to gain experience; it shows in your demeanor.
However, like I said, there's a lot of different subgenre of vagabond/homeless. The rainbow kid who's been from gathering to gathering for a few year, relying on the kitchens and only having to hitch between gatherings a few times perhaps, would probably get shat on by other groups that spend the same time in 'Babylon'-even if those groups rely on the cities and the system there just as much. Being a hippie dippy kid with some junkpunks might get you beat up and robbed, but being a junkpunk at a rainbow gathering might get you tied to a tree, you follow? And someone from both of those subgenres talking shit about the system while relying on its handouts might make other folk like me not want to hang out with them. But that's fine, we belong in tribes, as long as we can agree to exist as subgenres submitting to a higher law. That bullshit can be saved for some other philosophical discussion though.
>>723518
thank you
>>722817
I fucking lol'd
How does one get into this sort of thing?
I'm an experienced outdoorsman, but I've never hitchhiked or hopped a train. Sounds like an adventure.
>>723117
>>723384
They designed them and Propper produced them under license.
Not that these have a more backpacking style layout with the straps attached and some of the load above your head, and the straps are very good, but they are not better than an Alice in every way.
For example they are slightly heavier.
>>722568
It isn't unless you aren't wearing a coat, then it is.
I got an ergonomic DE frame for mine and DE straps and now it's comfy.
>>723518
If you're just a decent person and share smokes/booze/ect you can get along with anyone. I hang out with crusty punk kids and i basically look like a mix of country music and hippy dippy but they treat me like any other.
>>724085
You just pack what you need in a bag depending on climate, have some way to panhandle (or find work and save up) and go to a highway with enough space on the shoulder for someone to safely pull over. Train hopping should wait until an experienced hopper is willing to take you. The skills you will need are:
>scoping out places to sleep where you won't be bothered
>knowing where you are and where you are going so you don't get stuck in some shitty outer suburb or in a dangerous part of town
>being presentable on highways but not so much in cities
>meeting people, making friends, being a good judge of character and not being overly trusting but not paranoid either
>navigating your way through public transit systems or just in general. Having a smartphone and using free wifi makes this much easier
>being accepting of some really weird fuckin people
Used to trainhop in the uk and never met any autistic people like you faggots desu, what are you fucking doing honestly
>>722498
That was the most cringey high school thing I've ever seen, and I'm a high school teacher.
>>724224
>trainhopping
>UK
Doubt it
>>724351
What does this even fucking mean? You get on a train and go to the toilet and fucking sit there until you get to your stop, cuck
Anyone here have any luck catching out of B.C. to seattle or portland? Good spots to try? Thanks
>>724378
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K3czxrBUGmk
>>718883
If this anon is here, were you pan handling in Gloucester VA outside a walmart? I saw you.
>>724554
based hank hill
>>724563
What? No anon, there's a ton of people who panhandle outside Walmarts across the country.
>>724391
You need to find the French Canadians from Quebec, they're always going to Berkeley or New Orleans, usually in a group of 3-4 from what I've noticed.
>>724316
Those are all hipsters.
>>724191
I hang out with most everyone as well, but I don't give people things to earn their trust or respect. I don't smoke and I haven't really drank in years, nothing bothers me more than someone I don't know trying to hang out because they tried to give me a cigarette or a schwill. I've seen fellow dirty kids let housies or yuppies into our circles just because they kicked the kids a pack of cigarettes. $7 is all it took to gain their trust. These are not the kind of people I prefer to associate with, though I will exist with them if I have to.
>>724085
Just go out and do it m8, talk is cheap but nothing will help you as much as simply going out and doing it.
>>724191
I'm not that anon, but had the same question.
Thank you
>>724554
People do that too you autistic faggot, holy shit no wonder you live in poverty
>>725063
How can you be this bitter? Your boss made you work overtime again?
Are you considered a vagabond if you ride a motorcycle vs walk and hitch rides?
>>725072
What a fucking reddit tier response
>>725063
Lol someone's pissy they're too chicken shit to participate
>>725089
But I already have you fucking spoon, I also stole all my food like a fucking normal person instead of being a fucking cuck and begging
Is it viable to do this by myself or will I just end up getting fucked by the law/other vagabonds?
>>725093
You'll be fine unless youre a girl or a pretty boy
>>725092
Suuuuuure does your mom buy you the good hot pockets? Pay your internet bill and let you play vidyas all day? Rough man, stay in school and one day you can be an educated plebe shit posting on the internet.
Also; I don't beg, I work odd jobs to buy what I need and if I can't I dumpster dive.
Nothing against pan handlers but I don't find its efficient for me.
If you knew some skills you'd know how to survive without begging. So go learn how to sew, cook, forage, hunt, defend and survive then come call me a "spoon" until then I'll just call you a faggot.
>>725106
Eh, in my experience you can do fine as a girl, you need to be ready to hold your own and prove yourself though.
That can get exhausting, granted, so I usually travel with a guy but if we get into a weird situation I'm usually the first one to go into defense mode and pull my knife.
Even the scrawniest dude travelers I've met can be the toughest "I don't want to mess with that fucker" people, if you're not ready to get dirty and do some things you don't want to do to survive good luck though.
>>725111
I live in a hostel :^]
>>725117
Damn homie you definitely don't live in Canada, hostels here are expensive as fuck.
I keep backup emergency hostel money in case my traveling partner and I get caught in a city with drunk, violent natives overnight but a hostel can run 2 people anywhere from 75-150$ a night here.
When I travel I have a tiny 3 person tent that straps nicely to my bag, super mobile and if I gotta bunker down in the middle of the night because I'm not getting a ride I won't have to try and sleep in a tree or with the fucking moose.
>>725077
The term vagabond just implies that you haven't a 'stable house or job' and you like it that way.
>>725093
You'll be fine as long as you can stand up for yourself and you're prepared to do what you have to in order to survive.
>>725116
Props if you've traveled alone but I've only known a few who did it out of a backpack without a guy or road dogs, and they were always in cities with a dog of their own, almost assuredly between roaddogs or boyfriends and with the security of the street culture backing them. If they were alone it was a short stint almost always littered with some shitty stories about weirds. The other girls I knew who were alone have always been in vehicles, usually with a dog too.
I mean, shit, I know if while hitching I can get taken to a motel and put up for a few days of debauchery with a lonely female then girls who hitchhike and go it alone must get propositioned like crazy.
>>725125
Atleast you actually have nice places to camp out in tho
>>725171
Where you from?
Get on my level you establishment queers
>>714050
We had a kindly old guru-ish hippy hobo grandpa that hung around the local dog park sometimes and would chat with people and brought his own dog. He was pretty chill and seemed like a swell guy to be around.
Apparently though he's actually a sex offender. Like a diddled-two-little-boys-spent-fifteen-years-in-prison sex offender. He doesn't hang out there any more since he found out we knew. I actually feel bad for the guy, cause he seems really lonely. But still.
>>725247
Some things you can never get away from. And that's really how it should be.
>>725229
Hank pls go
>>724707
I guess I didn't word that correctly. I didn't mean just buy people free shit, but rather share stuff. Like, I never smoked but people will give me smokes so I can just give those to other street punks. And if I spange enough for a 40 then I share some sips. After that they always share booze and whatnot with me. Two-way street.
Of course, it's not a replacement for actual talking and hanging out. It's a good way to let them know you're easy-going and not uptight.
>>725125
Do you use the Canadian hitchhikers Union fagbook page, familia?
>>724707
Ayyy, that skull looks suspiciously swampy
Holy shit this is some big shit to commit to just to be trendy/part of a subculture.
I wish you all the best of luck and most important of all safe travels
I wrote a poem out of nowhere today, tell me what you guys think. I've never written any poems before, hardly read any either, so be warned - it probably sucks.
A yearning wish to walk away...
is that such a crime?
Walking along your own path,
leaving comfort behind?
Who are they to judge
the actions of another,
whose alleged fallacy
is nought but seeking something other?
Conformity, obedience,
these norms that mark our time,
wishing to be free of these
should not be deemed a crime.
Venture out, is what I say,
to wherever you may go.
Don't listen to the naysayers;
the ones who tell you no.
Just keep this simple fact in mind
wherever it is you roam;
However far your feet have brought you,
you are always home.
>>722568
I love the thing. Just ad padding on shoulders.
Would the Alice pack be too big on a 5'2 chick?
>>725627
Alice packs are like 40 liters and ive seen people walking around with 110L packs.
You should be fine.
>>725403
wanna know how i know you're gay?
>>725144
I've learned quick to approach traveling alone very differently.
I don't hitchike alone, ride shares have saved my ass many times. Also; if I'm going to be out late alone I've learned to make myself look as manly as possible, dark clothes to hide my figure, hood up, I always wear boots and I have a sailors stride from walking all the time so most people just leave me alone. My biggest problem is drunks and crack heads usually but they're pretty easy to shake off. Sometimes they're fun to talk to, I met a one armed, bike fixing crack head once. Nice dude, told me if I ever needed a bike fixed or some crack I knew where to find him lol.
>>725171 yes and no, if you get stuck on the highway at night you're fucked. A lot of our woods are fenced in along the highways, not sure if its to keep animals from running across the road or to keep people from hunting illegally but camping can get hard, if were not having luck hitchhiking we usually just go to the closest town we can find and find a clearing to stay the night or a punk house to crash at. Fucking lot of thievery though so unless I'm partying that night I try to stay away from punk houses
>>725346 the what now? I just use a map, my thumbs and sometimes a witty sign. I've driven through Canada so many times throughout my life I know the highways pretty well in the east coast and aight in the west coast. Well, well enough to know you should stay out of the mountains unless you got a straight shot drive through and the prairies are boring as shit when you're not having any luck.
>>725627
I'm 5'2 and I've suffered some spinal injuries in my time (2 that still affect me to this day) and I carry a 65L pack usually. Just don't over pack god damn I learned that the hard way, I've gotten pretty good at jimmy rigging my clothes back to a wearable state from complete tatters, so pack light but keep sewing stuff on you and bam, infinite wardrobe.
>>725346
I knew what you meant and understand the reasoning behind it, I sometimes pick up an empty tobacco pouch every now and then and fill it with snipes/kickdowns to give away or trade for bud. I try to be righteous but people will mistake courtesy and kindness for weakness and blindness.
To better explain my reasoning, I'm not the most easy going and I'm pretty uptight when it comes to certain things. I might be happy and hanging out but it's more often than not a courtesy. This is not something I'm necessarily proud of. It's reminiscent of my earlier days and the life I lived before traveling, involving the power structure that surround drugs. Having such insight into those various worlds has both helped me and isolated me, caused me to find others who follow the 'golden path' and in doing so solidified my position therein. It's like being a Lion in sheep's clothing when the wolf comes for his feast.
The golden path is having the knowledge of evil, having truly experienced and lived it without getting in too deep, and choosing to be righteous despite how easy being evil is and how difficult maintaining 'good' can be.
There's a good quote somewhere around here..
“As long as what you are afraid of is something evil, you may still hope that the good may come to your rescue. But suppose you struggle through to the good and find that it is also dreadful? How if food itself turns out to be the very thing you can’t eat and home the very place you can’t live, and your very comforter the person who makes you uncomfortable. Then, indeed, there is no rescue possible: the last card has been played.”
I really need to stop getting off on philisophical tangents.
My first rule of traveling is 'Don't make quick friends in new places'
>>725403
No bad anon, it could flow better but it's great for just randomly going at it. Here's something for you.
>hipster homeless
>>724191
>fucking berkeley
that whole city is pig fucking disgusting
>>725403
You're alright.
Floridian (SW) and prospective vagabond here.
I've heard Florida can be pretty hostile to houseless individuals. Anyone have experiences to share?
>>725892
Of course it's hostile, it's full of fucking Baby Boomers. If you can't rent a house from them, they think you're useless, they don't see anything they can control you with.
>>725845
Every major city in the state of California is pig-fucking-disgusting. People in San Francisco shit in the middle of the street.
>>726194
Slab city is the only major city in california.
>>725069
I want to see her use that saw.
>>726191
That's pretty much all of America. Americans hate people that aren't addicted to money because they don't want to admit that they have a problem.
>>725845
That's Montreal, Mr. Expert
Would it be possible to panhandle and hitchhike in africa?
Do you have any survival skills? Why don't you just permanently camp on a land with wild animals and hunt them?
You could live in a city without much effort if you busked for rent money and ate out of dumpsters for free. No effort required.
If you want to travel why don't you ride a bike.
>>726724
>poaching
>>726726
who's going to find you? It's the middle of nowhere. Just be careful and avoid the rangers.
>>726724
You need to be a survival master to survive innawoods permanently. I wish i could do it but i can't get enough food. You can't just eat fish all day everyday. And by the way otherwise i wouldnt be postinf here right now lol.
Ive been on the rails for 10 days straight once without going in a town. I left with 4 day supply of food and didnt eat anything at all for like 50 hours at one point. Refilled water at lake which i cooked and ate tons of fish. Its kinda scary when youre on a train in the middle of nowhetr with no food and just a littlebit of water left.
>>726679
No way in hell anon.
>>726750
>You can't just eat fish all day everyday.
You can with just a little bit of supplementation.
>>725229
>dreadlocks
1/10
AS HE LIGHTS AN AMERICAN SPIRIT
>>727066
you dick
What food do you carry with you when you're on the trail? Do you bring easy to cook stuff like ramen or just carry basic ingredients?
>>727394
Tortillas, peanut butter, canned tuna, canned beans, rice
I always have some of that in my pack, but i also catch my own fish alot. If there is no fish nearby i get chicken breast or beef, because im a big meat eater.
You can just put the meat in tin foil and throw it in the fire. Really easy and tastes great.
>>727408
How do you keep meat fresh? Seems difficult, especially in the summer.
>>727412
I just eat it the same day. Sometimes i cook it the same day but save it for later. It lasts a couple of days when its cooked.
How feasible is this lifestyle for a robot?
>>727428
Completely absolutely undeniably catastrophically unfeasible you fucking slab of piss
>>727440
Why? I just want to get away from normies?
>>727443
You fucking peanut
>>727445
Now you're just making me sad. :(
>>727066
Gpc cigs, yadayada
>>727428
You'll either die or learn to stop spilling your spaghetti everywhere, go for it
I've been living inside for years now, I'm curious how much shit has changed since all this sjw shit blew up. 6+ years ago I would definitely make a few people mad every now and again shitlording it up but it was never a big deal and even my lefty punk friends could handle the bants. I get the feeling shit has changed though.
>>727501
Triggered crusty vaginas everywhere
Would a dutch oven or pan be useful or too heavy?
And a small axe?
And a small fishing pole?
I would love to bake my own bread, chop wood and catch fish but i dont want to break my back
Nicknames are annoyingly prevalent in the area I'm in now, a lot of these kids are toedipping actors desu.
They keep calling me Savage, which is the first part of my double barrel surname, when I insist they don't, my first name is fine.
Here are some of the self-styled alter-egos I've meet recently: Cuffy, Stacker, Gohan, Ringer, Buzz (srsly) Thingy, Hatter, Allgone, Marx Spencer (jesus christ this guy) The Bill, The Maid, HER (capitalised) Black John, (white guy), King David, Caterpie, Grimace and Caramel.
>>727501
Holy fuck you spend too much time on the internet. It literally hasn't affected anything in real life ever in real conversation with anyone anywhere on earth. What the fuck is wrong with you?
>>727990
You idiot, I've literally seen people I know turn into tumblr stereotypes. That was years ago before I got bored and stopped hanging out with drunk idiots at dive bars every weekend. There are stories in this thread about tumblr faggots ruining cool spots. Don't be such a stupid nigger. Crust punk has always been pseudo sjw anyway and just ripe for those assholes to invade.
>>727990
But it has changed things, no facet of life has gone unscathed by the social media globalization. People all over the world sound relatively similar in thought process and patterns.
In fact, you really have no idea what you're talking about. Here you have 4chan, a website where people from all over the world gather to fling shit at eachother. Some of this shit winds up sticking and becomes culture, we call them memes. Thanks to global internet, these memes are a huge driving factor of small every day interactions. These memes trickle down through the various social medias until it's easy low hanging fruit for the masses to enjoy.
We might have minor superficial differences but mean nothing when our value structures, thought processes and jokes are all the same.
>>727990
The more I read your post the more I think you haven't had a conversation with anyone in real life in a long time anon
>>727525
>black john(white guy)
My sides
>>727525
Those sound like superheroes and supervillians
Mfw this whole shit it's interesting but my where I live there's so many crackheads that's scaring as hell only to think about that. And what about my parents? They would just think I've became a crackhead too( there's some in my family).
>>728078
When you're traveling you're not usually hangin out where the crackheads hang out, and you will be traveling so you need not worry about the crackheads where you live. Also, if you care what your parents think about you that much, I don't imagine you'll end up doing anything very cool.
Just think of the term "urban outdoorsman"
>>728012
This, I have literally just come from a homesquat where I heard 4 women talking seriously about 'the patriarchy' and what it means to be a woman without being defined by a man.
One can only roll one's eyes so many times before one gets a headache.
>>725690
Have you had to hitchhike alone? Any hitchhiking stories?
High class freighthopping
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OTJnau5r3MQ
>>728408
Jokes on you, we're actually surfing on the sea of shit that is society. Like celebrities that you hate.
I guess you don't remember 10+ years ago now when everything shitty became an epic fail irl, and Rick Astley had his career catapulted from nothing thanks to rickrolls
But by the sounds of it you're either living in a Mennonite colony or some rural shithole and you don't get much real interaction, so trying to explain these things to you is like explaining foreign policy to a toddler.
>>728577
Most people just dont know any better. From birth we have been told that we want to get a job, a house and a family, and if you dont have those things youre a loser. There are so many people that would be happier if they lived a hobo life. Most of them dont even see it as an option, and others dream about it everyday but they cant do it because they built up too much in their life.
To be completely honest, if i grew up in an upper middle class family, had good education and a steady job, i probably wouldnt leave either. Its too much to give up.
But i come from a working class family. I dropped out of college and i had no wife/gf. I worked in a warehouse for a couple of months and said fuck it, this is not the life im going to live for the next 50 years. Theres no reason to live a miserable paycheck to paycheck life. I would rather live a life of poverty and adventure than poverty and depression.
>>727990
I can't speak for vagafags but there's a shit-ton of pretentious SJW posturing among Bohemian / grungy / crusty types around the venues, art scenes and coffeeshops. Totally destroyed what little punk scene there was in this city with "gegen Nazis" patches on kids who's apartment and lifestyle is still subsidized by their parents at 24. If the grungy stoners that hang out in the park and play guitar are any indication, it's one thousand times worse among the nomad / vagabond types, than it is with the musicians and artists.
>>728620
It's pretty much just housies doing that shit. It's all still chill out here on the road.
>>728609
Or just get a good job that you enjoy.
>>728627
Ain't for everyone
>>728627
Im just saying that i understand it when people cant leave to live the hobo life, when they have too much to give up on.
I dont want a steady life but if i already had a steady life and then discovered the hobo life, i probably wouldnt have left. But for me it was really easy because my life was going nowhere.
Might have to leave soon, the manager is giving me the stink eye lol.
>>728408
Are you seriously implying there's more sjw tranny faggots down here? You Fuck, that shit was born out of the bored white middle class. Yes, there's tumblrinas in squats, but there's waaaaaay more of them in your polite world.
>>728639
Where you at
>>728168
First time I hitched was from Kansas city to lake Michigan in Wisconsin. Got a ride off Craig's list to Omaha, picked up by a trucker who took me to the mall of America. He was a quote book from that movie American pimp, I swear he knew every damn word, it was funny as Fuck. I was in the mall for about 45 mins with my big ass, way overpacked backpack before some dude comes up to me asks me where I'm going and shit. He tells me he's throwing a carnival at his lake house and invites me to come along for the weekend. I went with him, he bought me some scotch and pot and sure enough we come to his lake house on the beach. His wife is silly as shit, kept tripping that her cats would scratch me. Pepper Pete and honey Bob were their names. They were nice cats. They had a neice over for the carnival who is my age, ended up banging her in my tent on the beach. Sure enough too they threw a fuckin carnival, 200+ people from the area, they brought in rides and prizes and everything it was dope. Good times, definitely a good first hitching experience.
>>728641
Burger king flagstaff, been here for way too long
>>728647
Sheeeit i was just in Tempe. I'm in Abilene Texas right now getting drunk in my mahfuckin bus. Did you go to quartzite or you just hanging out there? Is it still cold?
>>728650
Nah just meeting some friends here, im probably hitching west to vegas tomorrow. Weather is perfect during the day, still freezing at night but i dont mind.
>>728657
Right on. If you run into Kurt or dilla in Vegas yell at them that they have crabs for me
>>728910
Lol yeah bro you tell em legion
I post I die I post again
>>726194
I guess thats why they call it San Franshitsco
>>728910
>I was only pretending to be retarded
>>725229
''get on my level''
>dreadlocks
>led zeppelin shirt
>the hat, THAT HAT
>picture taken with a +500$ camera
posser, pls go
>>729031
>500$ camera
thinking that is expensive
>>729068
nhb
>thinking it isn't
I forget sometimes that these threads are 90% oogle fucks from upper middle class upwards homes that think that everyone is exactly as wealthy as their parents and the residents in the rich white NE/CA areas they "bum" in.
>Lemme get a ride and can you spare a 20? Also fuck you for being one of the slavemasters that broke the system and a cog serf in the system at the same time. Your car is unnecessary wealth; can I get a ride?
These are the same kids that think it's an insult to say someone's living in the middle of the country and will prattle on and on about people buying a new cell phone and car every year.
Ask em what the median income in the US is and they scratch their head.
Their personal income is 0 so their parent's income tax bracket don't factor, ya dig?
Sheltered Vagrants; that oxymoron is the "Beat" scene of the millenials. Holy shit.
Viva americana.
>>722516
I really didn't like these when I was in the infantry. The pack itself was relatively heavy and it never sat well on me
>>729031
That's hank the third and you're a fucking moron.
>>729419
takes one to know one :)
>>729646
Fucking five star post faggot
Whats a good tent for longterm use? Im not looking for a flimsy ultralight tent, im looking for a sturdy tent that will last me years of everyday use. I dont mind if its a little heavier.
It can be 1 or 2 person but keep in mind im 6'7" so i have to fit in it without sleeping in a fetal position every night.
>>729952
A house
>>729952
Two tarps and some trekking poles will probably work best, if not look for some older & in good shape 3 person tent.
>>724224
America Man.
I've dipped my toes in the lifestyle a little bit but I don't really understand all the elitist dirty kids that say you're not "real" unless you were "forced into the lifestyle", but when they're offered a way out of the lifestyle they won't take it.
I mean, I get that travelling is addictive. Settling down in one place is really hard, but can you really blame the middle/upper class kids who just ditch out to travel around for fun? Personally I left because I was living in my van working a full-time job and I realized I'd rather see the country than do what I was doing, but I realized there's some things I want to do with my life that require having a place to live to do them. Still have that travel itch though.
>>730617
Most everybody wants a reason to look down on others, and even vagabonds are no exception.
>>730617
It's because greens don't know shit and lifers don't want anything to do with em. Same as how you don't want noobs on your team in vidya. There is a lot of posturing that goes on that you aren't immune to until you've got your coat of grime. Just don't say too much and people won't have reason to call you a fag.
>>722568
Get the kidney pad and shoulder straps for the newer Army ruck sack and put them on an Alice pack. Super comfy. As is the straps are ok but the kidney pad situation sucks with heavier loads.
>>729706
takes one to know one :)
>>725229
Why do le traveling kids all wear "the uniform", they must spend so much time shopping for the perfect ripped skinny jeans, jean vest, and quirky hat. So much effort to make it look like you're a "real traveler" who doesn't care about fashion. If they actually didn't care, they'd just grab a bunch of cheap milsurp and plebwear from walmart.
>>722034
is that jeremy rollof from little people big word?
>>727066
but muh johnny hobo
>>731342
There's actually a lot of different common outfits for dirty kids, usually because they have some kind of utility, but a lot of the time it's because it's just something they like to wear. Most kids don't go out of the way for their shit, they just wait until it comes to them. Like, if you only have one set of clothes, you could start out with a white T-shirt and a regular pair of chinos and if you're homeless and walking around the city for long enough you'll end up with all kinds of clothes.I found a really cool tan jacket with corduroy pockets and a weird purple inside lining on the side of the tracks in Sac and gave it to my road dog at the time. Kids usually patch up their own pants and over time they just end up being made out of patches. A good amount of train kids seek out overalls because they're durable and they keep you really warm.
If you actually know travelling kids who shop for clothes then that's crazy as hell to me. I bought a shirt at Goodwill one time because I'd just lost my only other long-sleeve shirt and I was in Colorado, the rest of my shit came from free boxes or I found it.
>>731342
for fucks sake would you read the damn replies to that post before you say some dumb shit like that
that is not a traveling kid
>>721996
I bet her pussy smells like 2 month salami that was dipped in a tin of sardines and mustard sauce.
>>731526
You aint a real rider if you wouldnt eat that. Lmao get out of the yard and go back to hitchhiking kid.
>greenhorn detected
>housie detected
>>731539
>he's never known the feel of smegma freezing to his facial hair riding the north main in the winter
>>731663
>he will never know the glorious feel of pissing on a bandana and then putting it on to avoid suffocating in a tunnel
>>731686
>He doesn't drink his own piss
ISHYGDDT
>>731701
Never gone THAT far. Not without a water filter atleast.
>>731686
>he will never feel the love of his road dogs pissing all over all his stuff
>>731702
You need to survive at the bare minimum so you can be fully self sufficient
>>724224
how lad?
>>731813
Wait till late, nobody is at barriers and nobody cares, get the last train to where you are going and get on and sit in one of the toilets, if somebody knocks change toilets.
Be sneeki breeki.
>>731854
That is not trainhopping you limey faggot.
Got the seats out of my bus
>>732136
COMRADE!
I used to live on a bus, watch for bugs its not air tight
>66666666666
if you're name is Clifford and you got hit by bulls in Nashville back in '13 and you're reading this hope all is well with your little senpai
>nicknames
I had a nickname, but that was because I was a cartel grunt and fucked around hard. You people just sound like faggots. Take it to /cgl/
>>722568
>>722542
Depends if you're using a frame or not and if you're properly distributing the weight to your hips vs your back.
I bought one online when I was in the Marines and used it for working out. Filled it with ammo cans full of sand/rocks and did sprints. Worked great and had no issues. Though I stopped doing sprints with all the weight because it wears out your knees.
Are Crusties the most "authentic" alts?
>>732236
Prison escapees that are hiding from society are the most authentic
>>732192
Yeah. At least I can bomb it if anything heinous digs in.
>>732236
Crusties are house punks.
>>732236
Define "alts"
>>731342
>ripped skinny jeans
>Jean vest
>going out of your way to cultivate a style instead of letting it come over time
Want to know how I spot greenhorns/fakes? I don't think you understand our culture at all. We can tell when someone's wearing shit they bought to look the part.
Unlike this other jackass over here who thinks a name is what makes a man, it's a combination of a lot of shit and it's no joke the saying 'real recognizes real'
>>732192
>cartel grunt work
Cute. Tell me more about how you just dropped your name and walked away from the life. I bet you still travel the area the cartel controlled huh? You could have maintained a different position, instead of working for them working with them; but of course, what can I expect-you already said it was a cartel and you were doing bitchwork. Brag about your drugmule life to some newfags, I'm sure they'll think you're top shit. I know silly kids with silly nicknames who regulate for groups you don't even know about. If you fucked the wrong person over there could be a group of dickheads who'd ride the rails to whatever town you're going to and stab your ass for the principle and because they've got nothing better to do.
>>732774
crusties are street punks
>>733025
You're the biggest, smelliest faggot around.
Congratulations.
>>733096
Housie detected
>>733096
>Faggot says we're role-playing and need to go back to /cgl/
>now we're trying too hard because we actually live out here and do it
Awww, someone's mad we didn't think he was top shit for being a drug mule.
How long have you guys been vagabond-ing for? I've been at it since I was 15 because I was a dumbass kid, but it worked out okay.
>>733085
Crusties are houses. They live in squats and collectives and shit. Gutterpunks are the homeless variety, most quickly become junkpunks and they don't travel. Traveling kids are the road punks.
I'm just sayin.
>>721996
206 replies
so you're all on the internet hanging out on 4chan claiming to be homeless/hobos/vagabonds or whatever cool new thing is in.
Is this where I post the dislaimer?
The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
>>733279
206 replies that you didn't even bother to scan through
>travelers are cave men
>>733279
You have no clue about this lifestyle do you? There are actually pics of proof ITT.
>have smartphone
>leech wifi and mcdonalds
Wow so hard. Nearly every hobo today has a smartphone.
Check out /r/vagabond on reddit if you still don't believe it. Pics and vids everywhere.
>>733351
>I'll bet your socks aren't even crusty greenhorn!
>Hey man, I smell like my own piss just like anyone else.
>I am so hardcore you don't even know. I haven't changed my underwear in WEEKS!
Would it be worth it to be a hobo in woods for 2 months? Living in oregon, am a firefighter in the summer, ran out of cash and my job doesnt start for 2 more months but its on call so id have to be able to respond within 2 hours. Have lots of woods experience. No moneys. Have a tent.
>>733351
It's not about being the most crusty, it's about actually doing it and not relying on a fallback, not even considering a plan B. You're either on the bus or you're not, and everyone on the bus can tell when you're not on it.
This is why so much posturing goes on, because people not familiar with it think that it's about being a crustpunk or full hippy dippy. Its neither, and 'elitism' exists because we get tired of people misinterpreting shit-including people new to the lifestyle thinking that we consider the crustpunks cool for being crusty. Look at all the GG Allin patches at a housie punk show.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leatherman_(vagabond)
You're going to tell me this guy would be considered tryhard for being crusty and having his own style?
I hate GG as much as the next guy but at least he went all the way. No half measures, if you're going to so something you'd better try to be the best at it.
But this is all irrelevant, elitism and classism and tribalism permeate every facet of life. The street world goes almost hand in hand with the drug world. What you said was the equivalent of
>I don't understand elitism among addicts. The person hustling for their fix trying not to hurt any one directly is no better than the idiot carhopping to get his and begging for a rinse when he gets a little sick.
Or in a better analogy
>I don't understand the elitism among stoners. The guy who grows his own and works a full time job is no better than the neet who plays vidya all day and uses his mom's money to buy weed
The reason these people suck so much is because they lack the tools to allow them to enjoy or function in society, those of you in this thread that expect hobos to be saints or immune to social elitism are retarded. These people can hardly be called people. They will have more image issues and emotional issues than the average person at every level. If you are just a thru hiker stay away from these fools.
>>733396
You're not wrong.
It's a way of life I'll never understand or truly care to. I merely came by to take a jab at your filthy jimmies.
>>733396
>elitism and classism and tribalism permeate every facet of life
Believe it or not there are people that have nice things and self respect as well as the respect of their peers. You make it sound like being a "normie" is a bad thing.
I also do not believe for a minute you are 100% self sufficient, ergo you are already relying on a fallback and services.
I really dont understand the hate for hobos. I chose this life because i dont want freedom. I dont owe anything to society and i dont demand anything from society. If people want to help me out by donating, they can do that. If you dont want to, then you dont have to. At least im not taking money from taxpayers that dont want to contribute to my lifestyle. And in turn for a donation i will play music on my harmonica.
So whats the problem? Im technically even with society. I just choose to live a simple life.
>>733498
>because i dont want freedom
I mean because i want freedom ofcourse
>>733506
Is anybody you fag
>>733506
This is the closest i can get to true freedom personally. I know its possible to be completely self sufficient, only depending on mother nature, but i dont have the necessary skills (yet) to survive on my own long term.
But i do know i am much more free than when i was working a job and living in an appartment.
>>733468
>believe it or not..
Yes, and believe it or not, you are the company you keep. Just because someone is good at social interactions doesn't mean they won't recognize who they prefer to keep at a distance.
Did I imply 'normies' we're bad? I meant to imply settling for average is bad. Aim high, no matter what you do. Take pride in doing a good job. If you're a cashier then be the best cashier you can be and if it's not making you happy work towards what will.
When I said a fallback I mean like a fallback life. A number to call to get a greyhound to a place they can stay and go back to 'living the normal life' because they're 'done' or taking an extended break.
Like they're not an artist looking to spread their art, or a loner with severe wanderlust that won't quench, or running from a broken home looking for a new one. Just a tourist looking to escape the life they'll paint themselves back into once they're 'done' or in a bind.
Real vagabonds see their escapades into a system of society as breaks from their normal life as a vagabond, the others see their adventure in the streetlife as temporary deviations from their 'normal life'. You follow?
I never made a claim to be entirely 'self sufficient' in the sense that I'd have to be farming/hunting my own food or making my own clothes and all the other usual bullshit that comes when someone argues that someone else isn't self sufficient. The guy I just linked relied on people to put food out. No man is an island, especially in today's world. I'm not sure I made claim to being one. Even if you were coming down from the mountain once a month to buy rice and sell furs some faggot would bitch that you weren't self sufficient for using a path already made or a bullet you didn't forge.
>>727525
>Cuffy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO2QL_x1wI0
>>733507
That was my point.
>>733513
fair enough retort, I retract my previous statement. Kudos on the be the best regardless. 110% on board there. It's how I got to where I am.
Good luck in your endeavours anon.
>>725403
will be the thing that keeps me going when i literally do that today
why the fuck would anyone want to be a dirty neglected homeless
>>733564
FUCK YOU, YOU AREN'T MY REAL DAD
>>733564
They have this retarded ass fantasy and most have never done it or they're still too high on drugs to have objective thoughts.
>>733569
don't be mistaken i've done the crusty thing for a while, mostly communal squats, tents, some months on the street in my teenage years and i could punch myself looking back at it
fuck that shit
thank god the military took me, otherwise i'd never have grown out of that shit and wound up a legit junkie homeless
>>725892
Good luck in the summer
Concealed firearm for safety
Y/N?
>>725111
You're a try hard lol
>>722135
>taking drugs, homeless, and questioning your fashion choices at the same time
Being homeless is a fucking fad now, isn't it? Absolutely disgusting
>>733721
Y?
Just hitched for the first time because someone jumped in front of the train and i didnt feel like waiting hours to get back home.
I just stuck my thumb up and almost immediatly an old man picked me up and brought me home.
That was awesome, i want more.
>>733852
You won't need it unless you go looking for excuses to use it. If you end up in a position where you need the pistol, it's because you made poor choices that could have been avoided by simple thought. I've been on the road for years and I've gotten in one fight ever because some shithead wouldn't quit fucking with my dog. Not to mention you don't wanna give the police an excuse to put your dirty ass down, or at the very least take your gun for a month and lock you up for 2 days. Which they will do regardless of your ccw permit.
>>733863
innacity?
>>733863
Where at? Two people died in Eugene the other day to trains, one person got hit one night and the next day some kid fell off a train and died. Eugene is so crazy. I wish they'd just let it be instead of making it another Portland.
>>733279
>such a sheltered child they don't actually think this is real
Don't remind me that there's people like you, this is my safe space REEEE
Also you're on the wrong board retard, that disclaimer doesn't apply here
>>733025
>If you fucked the wrong person over there could be a group of dickheads who'd ride the rails to whatever town you're going to and stab your ass for the principle and because they've got nothing better to do.
In practice I imagine that a group of people would just end up shanking some poor fuck that doesn't have anything to do with the intended target; that's what happens ~half the time with actual organized crime in the low level shit, so you'd think with some word of mouth next town over guys that had never even seen the guy it would be even worse.
>>734177
You would think, but the street world is small, if you're on the streets traveling and you fuck over everyone with the assumption you'll just go on to the next town, it can catch up with you.
>>728640
>trans was born out of white middle class
Senpai are you stupid? Way more trans people in poverty
Well I never thought it would ever happen but I am homeless for the first time in my life.
>girlfriend's car is in the shop (Italian POS)
>she's going to see her family for the weekend
>let her take my main car, to the airport, I take my weekend fun car to the gym
>get back from gym
>the keys to my condo are on the keyring for my other car
So I have no way to get into my home, no money (wallet inside my condo), my only possessions are my car, my phone, and my gym clothes. The seat barely reclines so IDK what the fuck I am going to do, almost impossible to sleep in here. I'm hoping I can go the the shop where my girlfriends car is to get the other condo keys but IDK if they are open on Saturdays, and that still leaves tonight. It's really a sickening feeling to be homeless, I have a lot more respect than I ever had before now that I am going through it myself.
>>734278
>I am homeless
you're in a ferrari. you have a home you're locked out of. are you retarded>?
>>734278
Please, fags, don't give this guy a reaction.
>>734278
Hop a train on the fly
And dont be careful please
