i have a thesis
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i have a thesis
Pray tell, what is the subject of your thesis?
Well then let's hear.
I'm sure its of high quality like the other posts on this incredible board.
>>14125712
>>14125723
We chop off
the back end of a coupe
everything after the rear window (that we can)
so basically the entire trunk section
it would decrease weight significantly
add aerodynamics
through these things
handling, speed, and quickness are improved
is it possible to move the gas canister closer so we can chop off more of the back end all the way to the rear wheel?
by doing this we could create the ultimate track car
i am using my car, a BA4 Prelude as visual aid
>>14125752
It would also make the car more front heavy and remove utility and rigidity. Not a good idea.
>>14125752
Congrats, you created a 2 door hatchback
>>14125756
how would it reduce rigidity? wouldn't it improve it?
we'd be chopping right down to the bar before the trunk in a coupe
we would then reinforce down that bar
create a new, shorter back end of the car
>>14125756
>front heavy
but that's what you want in a fwd car anyway
you don't necessarily want a 50/50 weight distribution
do you even really need a trunk in a coupe?
use the back seats to store cargo
it'd work perfectly
MY GOD YOUrE A GENIUS
>>14125762
You didn't say anything about reinforcing originally.
>>14125766
He just said "a coupe " so it could be any car.
>>14125762
same way a foxbody mustang hatch is wobblier than the fastback. same applies with the ae86
>>14125762
No it wouldn't, the trunk adds rigidity to the frame and counter-weight to the front of the vehicle. Sedan/2door/4door layouts are known for this trait.
>>14125766
actually 50-50 would be ideal on a FWD car, it's just that there are better ways to distribute weight that make a bigger difference i.e low down and light as possible is more important than front to back
>OP doesnt know fastbacks are a thing
>>14125770
sorry
i didn't mean to imply we leave a gaping hole
in practice it would look like a kammeback sillouette
only it would not be a hatchback and through that bonus offerslightly more rigidity
>>14125795
i thought it was more 60/40 for fwd
>>14125796
you dont understand.
>>14125752
Prelewd chassis was already perfect you fucking cunt.
>>14125796
Its all about liftbacks, look good while achieving hatch back functionality.
picture the CRX back on a honda prelude, only it does not open into any compartment, it is just a back. surely by the virture of the stock horizontal bar and also not needing to open it is more rigid
the car's weight is more on the front now too, but this is only phase 1, there is more we can do to the prelude
we have lost a lot of weight and unnecessary space on this prelude by doing this
people make carbon fiber trunk tops
fuck that thats stupid
>>14125807
>cut a 2 door coupe off at the rear end
>it won't be a hatchback!
What do you think a hatchback is
>>14125823
dude, i don't think that you understand that what you are trying to do would be batshit stupid
>>14125808
>fwd
>perfect
Aw11 better
>>14125810
what the fuck is a liftback
>>14125830
a hatchback implies a back that opens
that's why hatchbacks are less rigid than coup counterparts
however my back would not open, it'd be solid back
we'd be using the horizontal bar thats part of the chassis already there
we're literally just shortening the back end a little
than we put a CF hood on the front
throw out those pop ups for weight reducing static lights
we got a track monster here
im not sure why it wouldn’t' work to be honest
it's an extension of the hatchback vs coupe rigidity
without a truck, a compartment that opens, it'd be more rigid and less heavy
the best cars in the world were made on risky ideas that you'd call them mad men for
maybe we should go to /sci/ for this
>>14125807
cars like the integra-r, cr-x, lotus elan m100 all have a more rearward weight balance and are some of the best handling fwd cars ever made
>>14125836
>>14125854
thats a fastback
>>14125831
>aw11
Slow toyocuck not worth the hassle in weather and bad/uneven roads.
>all that scraping across the roads of nc
>couldn't pass stock accord
Prefect car for ricer stance faggots.
>>14125850
>talking about chassis rigidity
what you are talking about has been tried before, and it offers no appreciable benefit over a traditional hatchback or coupe.
You aren't gaining anything by having a solid back in a fwd car
>>14125810
no because they end up less rigid than just a hatch. the way to do it and keep the original prelude rigidity would require a small glass opening and the rest all welded up.
>>14125851
>FWD cars
>best handling
lol It's so pathetic you have to add that little qualifier .
>>14125861
No thats a liftback, a fastback has a roof rake but still has a trunk. pic related.
>>14125760
>>14125767
but does it have pop-ups?
GO TO /SCI/ WITH THIS
>>14125868
>tried before
In what car?
>>14125873
would it not make sense to compare them to other fwd cars to reduce variables
crx vs civic is the obvious comparison
>>14125869
I was just speaking in general about liftbacks, not about the prelude you guys are discussing.
>>14125887
racing/rally versions of pretty much any 2 door hatchback ever made.
>>14125878
that's a quarterback
>>14125909
I've never heard of that term being used, ever.
![SMARTRoadsterCoupe-581_9[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ln229I5.jpg "SMARTRoadsterCoupe-581_9[1].jpg")
>>14125894
i was just saying too
>>14125920
go to /sp/ then
>>14125939
That looks surprisingly good, maybe just extend the rear hatch out a little more to match the longer front end and it would be perfect.
>>14125939
A-a crx!?!
subtle WAT engineering thread?
because i think this could work
this is crazy enough to work
plus this looks bad ass>>14125939
>>14125942
nice, now we just need to jam a CRV AWD drivetrain in it to make a rally monster.
hey op i've got just the car for you, took this back in 08
what if we combine a hatch back with a ute?
>>14125967
Cool.
>>14125957
It's possible to swap a 1st gen integra front end w/ popups on a crx. Pretty funky looking though.
>>14125965
what do those bars below a car do?
doesn't that just support the back end that no longer exists?
>>14125967
Shorten the front a little bit, looks funky having it hang out so far compared to the rear.
>>14125973
>>14125760
>Geo Metro with Pop-ups
I NEED A SHOOP NOW
MY COCK NEEDS IT
>>14125981
nigger we cant just shorten a front end on a car
theres an engine in the way we cant chop that off
>>14125967
>>14125967
Looks like the roof needs to start sloping down earlier and extend a bit further.
>>14125879
>popups
>worried about fuel economy
my car gets noticeably worse mpg with the popups up. also i think it actually affects handling slightly
basically popups are shit
>look pretty cool tho
>>14125990
At least cut down on the nose beyond the front wheels, that shouldn't interfere with the engine bay too much.
>>14125967
How would this handle?
Would it be like a better 3G prelude?
Fuckit /hg/ just make it a future car prediction at this point.
I want to believe.
>>14125994
now we got a liftback/hatchback, looks nice.
>>14126004
im going to fucking make this thing one day unless someone tells me why it'd drastically fail
after doing this to the back you'd lighten the front end as much as you can
would it be that hard to wire tail lights up and such to make it look like >>14125967
>>14126002
Like a s2000... But with space.
>>14126002
I'd imagine it having bad understeer, who knows though.
>>14126002
It'd probably upset the weight distribution. A lot.
>>14126014
why would the understeer be bad?
i imagine if you put just as much work lightening the load on the front end it could be feasible
>>14126009
Take new civic coupe and shop it into oblivion fusing the crx, civic, and lewd. With seats that feel better than penetrating your waifu.
>>14126027
Make it an rf maybe?
>>14125996
>worse mpg
Yeah, although only at night time so its not like you have them on all the time.
>affects handling
I doubt it, placebo effect.
>>14126027
With having so much front end sticking out with no trunk to offset the weight it would really screw the dynamics up.
The prelude's front really sticks out low and flat so it would have to somehow be shortened to mitigate the effects.
Op here
the entire point of this was to try and eek performance out of 3g lude by modifying the body
but in a cheap inexpensive way , no costly drive train overhaul or putting the engine in the back
so you'd do the operation, rape the front end for weigh treduction ,stick on a stiffer bigger rear sway bar
then reinforce the chassis
the reinforcements alone (which would be necessary anyway) would probably spread the weight around
>>14126053
It's stylistically designed to be that way and you can't undo that. But we can diminish the effects of it.
>>14125782
>hatch
>Fastback
What
There's the coupe and the hatch, look up the definition of a Fastback.
>>14126053
can we get a shop of what we can cut out of >>14125967 's front end
pop ups would sadly have to go
maybe shave the bumper a bit?
i dunno how street legal is enough for the police
>>14125996
>my car gets noticeably worse mpg with the popups up
No it does not. You're fucking stupid
>>14126055
it's a terrible thing to do for perfornance reasons. better to start with a civic or crx and swap in prelude hardware if that's what you want
>>14126088
LISTEN
INNOVATION IS A MATTER OF CIRCUMSTANCE
I DONT GOT NO FANCY ASS CIVIC CRX SHIT
WHAT I DO GOT?
THIS WORHTLESS FUCKING SACK OF SHIT BA4 PRELUDE
>>14126077
It's possible, whether its worth the trouble is another story. The amount of money to get a shop to cut one up would be expensive.
I honestly have no clue about preludes, there could be important linkages or areas located in or under the trunk space. Fuel fuel tank or suspension bits.
As far as legality goes, if it has all the required equipment to pass inspection it shouldn't be an issue. Shit like this has been done before.
>>14126088
what makes it terrible
>>14126116
>shop
what about a bunch of bored college students in a motorsports club
i have takumi syndrome with my shitbox anon, id rather modify it to hell then buy something that other people consider "better"
>>14126124
Well then go fucking nuts, make some threads on your hackjob prelude progress while you're at it.
>>14125702
is that the 4WS LOOD
>>14126136
This. All of my this. Please do this, it'd add some much needed original content to the board.
>>14126124
I know that feel.
Learn better driving techniques itll help Beat any mustang driver. Especially look into ways to maximize tourque.
>>14126119
the fact that it's very difficult to do without ending up with a turd but the benefits are small
>>14126140
No, preludes that have it display a "4WS" on the outside B pillar.
>>14126141
You act like we haven't already gotten great oc
The 3g lude literally saved us from fwd vs rwd shitposting
>>14126157
Sure, but more OC is never a bad thing, right?
>>14126146
Then let's plan it out
How would you do it?
UPTOWN FUNK GON GIVE IT TO YUH
>>14126145
>old 4 cylinder FF shitbox
>winning against modern 5.0 RWD
Gay
>>14126378
Fag
>>14125808
This
>>14125702
no, this is a thesis
>>14125942
>>14125939
>>14125967
>>14125994
So basically we made an old Integra?
>>14125967
Congrats, you got an e36 compact
>>14125994
You still have this.
I remember doing that shoop long time ago
Makes me want to start a shoop thread
So what you're trying to make is a car that looks like a hatchback but isn't one? Mahindra's got your back bro.
1/2
>>14127628
2/2
>>14125752
You have smoked yourself retarded.
>>14127628
>>14127632
You're retarded
>>14127647
Idiot
>>14126145
RETARD DETECTED
>>14127632
>>14127628
delete this idiotic post
>>14125965
>Stage 7 weight reduction.
>>14128313
so basically
op's idea works
this is genius
lets cut off the trunk of our cars
>>14125851
That's total bullshit, crx is 58/42
>>14126102
H22 Swap/B series short gearbox with bell housing = 3rd gen prelude monster.
>>14128410
>h22
are you stupid
>>14128410
>h series
>ever
>>14128450
>>14128418
what makes the h series so undesirable?
>>14127647
>>14127917
>>14127971
>>14128020
>>14128205
samefag is mad as fuck
>>14126236
Its horrifyingly easy when the other driver doesn't even know the car through the back of his head. Especially on bad roads.
>>14126074
Why cant a fastback not be a hatch, they have similar styling cues, just one has window that can be be popped open?
>>14126164
Yes the best OC is when It fails miserably.
>>14129855
Heavy as fuck
Burn 1L of oil per day
>>14125752
>add aerodynamics
>by removing valuable air flow from the rear of the car
lol okay.
also this
>>14125760
>>14126083
Yes it does. You're fucking stupid.
>>14125878
Nope, that Celica is a fastback.
>>14125752
So, a Cadillac Seville?
>>14125760
Kek'd
>>14127288
a CP thesis
>>14133090
Am i the only one who loves this car?
>>14125981
>>14125967
>>14133090
That's the ugliest trunk I've ever seen
5-door sedans, ugliest body style
Agreed?
