Is it more humane to kill an animal you hit with your car or just leave it there?
>hit a deer on cruise doing 50mph 3 months ago
>I was going to cut its throat but it died before I got the balls to do it
>replaced the bumper and head light but the front rail is bent down a bit
I'm surprised the airbags didn't go off. It was a big one
If it's critically injured or maimed it's always more humane to kill it, you can even call highway patrol if you don't have the means.
>>13986633
Kill it.
You gotta remember that a broken leg for a deer or something is different than one for a human. If we get hurt, we can rest and eat painkillers. If they get hurt like that, they have to try and survive in the wild like that in pain until something eats them or they starve.
Depends on the animal, damage and whatnot
I've hit rabbits and foxes that have survived and that I've put down with knives, but being a hunter I've also taken them back home to use for meat or the pelts
For larger animals; they will need to be put down in 99% of the cases. If this happens and the animal runs off you contact your local wildlife authority or similar, notify them of the circumstance, location and so on
Stuff like this is a reason why I tend to keep a small pistol securely locked in my car when I'm back home due to the amount of deer, moose and whatnot running around
It's not that bad but I went 11 years without anything hitting that car
>>13986652
I can't have a gun in my car. What else is more humane?
>>13986663
Knife, hammer, the handle for a hydraulic jack, a breaker-bar for the wheel... fuck mate, just about anything is more humane than leaving it to suffer and die
If you have absolutely nothing then just use whatever, even your hands... a moose, deer or a 300 pound mexican might be a bit hard to kill with your fists, which is the reason why you contact the local wildlife authority
Bird, rabbit, fox and so on; break their necks, choke the bird, stomp on their head. Only thing is I would recommend you to wear gloves when doing this
>>13986663
Machete?
I keep meaning to get one for when I'm fishing. I need a way to quickly dispose of Snekheads. They have these really thick skulls and I only have a small pocket knife/multitool in my tacklebox. So I just end up throwing them in the nearest parking lot or trash can.
>>13986675
...run over the head if theyre immobilized?
>>13986680
Sure - just don't do what our police did and do it in a public street infront of a bunch of young kids, missing the animal two times and running over its body without killing it
Just fucking leave it. Who cares.
It's not like the thing has a lawyer and can sue you. As long as it's off the road or turned into mush on it. Leave it.
Nature has a way of sorting out unnatural 2 ton combusting pieces of steel on rubber hitting it.
>>13986689
Christ.
>>13986697
Goddamn you are heartless. They may not think like you or I but they feel pain.
>>13986675
Hammer is a good idea. Probably more humane then just a knife. Hammer then knife
>>13986697
>It's not like the thing has a lawyer and can sue you.
Fucking americlaps
Animal suffering is ok because it cant sue.
Human suffering is bad because humans can sue.
>>13986730
>>13986709
It seems trivial to cry over spilt milk. The damage is already done. Why continue to get attached to an animal that is suffering.
You were just driving and it found a way into your path.
There's nothing you can do.
Get out and shoot it? Just fucking forget it. Most animals die of shock anyway.
Forget. It. You've already invested too much time in it anyway. You could already be gone, and thinking about shitposting on /o/.
>>13986746
But why not stop and collect the free meat if it's a deer or a turkey or something you can eat instead of rotting in the side of the road? I kept the deer I hit, I brought it into a logging road and cleaned it and got a full freezer of meat for free. That's the least that deer could give me for what it did to my truck
>>13986730
American here >>13986709
Other guy is just cold as hell
>>13986675
>a moose, deer or a 300 pound mexican
kek
I'm not American.
>>13986767
Shit man, I don't know what kind of freaky stuff tends to be running over the roads in the great old USA
>>13986689
...Do police not have guns where you are?
>>13986663
ball gag, strapon dildo and jumper cables from car battery to nipples
seriously tho anon use your brain your car has heavy stuff in it. you have a spare tire, jack, and probably some sort of tire iron. take your pick. Go get a nice knife, club/bat or axe/hatchet for your car too, it'll give you some creative solutions to potential problems like this in the future.
>>13986633
airbags wont go off unless you slow down unnaturally fast; like hitting a wall or head on collision
>>13986781
>Anon stands outside in the negative temperatures, slugging at a young buck with a fucking tire iron
>Deer is fighting back and continues to wail
>This Deer is that one that just won't die
>Anon is now cold and wet.
>Maybe even covered in blood
>Goes home with a new painful memory to feed his depression
LEAVE
IT
>>13986780
At the time being they had, I believe, two MP5's securely locked away, no standard carry on person. They could've used the MP5, but they didn't want to fire in a residental area... I would've just used a baton
"Police in a Norwegian town have come under fire for driving over a badly injured cat to end her misery, local media report. The cat, named Daniella, was hit by a car near the town of Tonsberg, southwest of Oslo, prompting her distraught owners to call the police. Officers dispatched to the scene decided the cat had to be put down and opted to run over the animal with their car. Neighbors told the Tonsberg Blad newspaper that the cat was driven over twice before she died, prompting protests from animal rights groups. Tonsberg police chief Malfrid Hoivik said an investigation was pending but that the method had been chosen in order to reduce the animal's suffering. The cat's remains were returned to the owners, who buried her in their garden. "
>>13986675
>Strangling an animal with your bare hands on the side of the road
>People driving past
>It's okay! I'm doing the right thing!
>>13986652
>If this happens and the animal runs off you contact your local wildlife authority or similar, notify them of the circumstance, location and so on
That might be a very bad idea in the US.
If you shoot an animal and it runs off you HAVE to hunt it down and kill it.
I imagine the same would apply to hitting it with your car.
>>13986800
Haven't had any weird looks for that stuff - but I live quite rurally where everybody has a positive relation to hunting and so on
>>13986803
Isn't that "kinda" the job of the wildlife service? They cannot really expect a 18 year old kid who has never fired anything bigger than a BB-gun to hunt down a wounded 250 pound buck in the middle of the night... or am I misunderstanding?
>>13986675
>Getting your car stuck because you drove over some permafrost just to run over the animal for a second time
This thread has put quite a few fucking hilarious settings in my head
>"BUT I'M DOING THE RIGHT THING!"
If you have a knife cut it in the neck but be careful, there will be blood. Lot's of it.
>>13986813
I've heard too many stories of people shooting mountain lions, bears, moose, etc in self defense, the animal running away, the shooter calling wildlife, and the people being forced to go kill the animal or face serious charges.
>>13986814
I was quite close to running over a wolf pup this summer, braking as I thought it was a dog... should've accelerated and ran the fucker over and then bashed his head in with the tire iron
Fuck wolves
>>13986789
imblyging that doesn't sound like fun
implybing that getting some exercise for once in your life will hurt you
step it up senpai
>>13986798
should've let them use your lead bags desu
>>13986821
... the fuck, America?
>>13986829
You harmed it. Make sure you put it down.
Protip. It's best never to ever EVER get the government involved in your own affairs.
This is how people get shot, slapped with fines, and fucked right up the ass.
You can probably guess this is why most Americans don't like Government.
>>13986842
I agree. Kill it yourself if your going to do it. Don't involve police over something so trivial
>>13986829
It's really not America's fault. It's the fucking terr huggers and PETA asshole
>>13986827
>"police poisons residents with toxic heavy metals after supposed killing-bag is used to kill innocent, black animal"
>>13986842
That sounds so fucking backwards and inefficient, I'm not even sure what to say
>>13986633
For me it'd depend on the extent of the injuries. Then again even if I wanted to mercy kill it I lack the tools to do it. I live in a more suburban area and don't do too much rural driving. If I hit something big I'd call the police/animal control and they'd figure out the best course of action.
>>13986825
Life is hard above the arctic circle.
>>13986821
This is why you never talk to authorities when there are victimless crimes. The whiny beuracratic fucks will threaten you with the whole book for exercising your natural rights to self preservation just because their stupid book says that an overgrown kitty kat/dog decided to make you its meal.
That being said, I saw a deer in the gravel the other day and swerved into it.
>It didn't react or move
I plan to have a rematch tomorrow
>>13986825
Holy shit lol
>>13986871
>lead poisoning
idk man I'm just confused why nobody in the entire area had a bat or rugby stick or some club for whatever silly games you nordic loonies play or even a fucking kitchen knife and instead the police decided to play GTA on somebody's house pet
>>13986821
That's some backwards ass logic. Lawmakers can't seem to get anything right apparently.
>>13986652
>Stuff like this is a reason why I tend to keep a small pistol securely locked in my car when I'm back home¨
Troverdig
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>>13986882
>>13986898
Its an easy, comfortable life, but fuck wolves
>hurrr, they were here first
So were the fucking moose, bears, squirrels and the sami people, and we sure as fuck killed those in sufficient numbers and still do to this day. I don't see you crying your heart out for those. Infact, we fucking eradicated the wolf hundreds of years ago because it was such a lust-killer that it was a serious danger for the farmers, loggers, wildlife and everything
>durrr they are cute
Sure, they look like dogs and they are cool to behold... still doesn't do anything towards the fact that they give us no benefit and are becoming/are a serious problem
>murrr there hasn't been an attack here for hundreds of years
BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN ERADICATED FROM THESE AREAS FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS
They are growing in number thanks to help from the governmnet who have been placed wolves and packs in the wild, they are completely illegal to kill unless they have attacked and possibly hurt a human, a pet or livestock... yes, they have to actually have attacked before you are allowed to take action.
They kill way more than what they need to, they are becoming more and more brave/less afraid of humans and are sneaking around our homes, they actively go after our hunting dogs, and they have in several parts of Norway nearly decimated the moose by killing almost all the calfs
They do huge damage to sheepstock and to a small extent on herds of goats and cows. The farmers have no way of protecting them because the animals are released into the wild to eat for the summer, and there is no way of fencing them off. They have no funds to hire a shepherd and no time/possibility of herding and protecting the animals themselves.
They do get government payback for a killed animal, but where does this money come from? Like anything from the government; tax money, and I really don't feel like feeding the wolves for absolutely no goddamned reason
Fuck wolves and fuck the people who want them
>>13986825
Are they seen as nuisance animals in your area? Most places in the US, you would probably get fucked for hurting a wolf.
Coyotes are a different story, they are taking over lots of suburban areas and pet owners especially hate them. We had some Coyotes in the area for a little bit when I lived near Chicago, not sure where they even had a place to live. But I had the pellet rifle ready to take them down if I saw them in my backyard again.
Down here in my neighborhood in FL, we could use some Coyotes. They would take care of some stray cats. I think I should go hunt some cats around the neighborhood tonight.
>>13986871
Liberals want more government intervention in their lives.
I'll never understand it.
The government does nothing but cause headaches and ruin lives.
>>13986910
I really don't know what they were thinking of/with
>>13986930
Har en liten Beretta 9mm, godt gjemt og ikke mye ammunisjon... lurer på å selge men, har ikke vært på noe skyting på nesten ett år og har egentlig mista litt interessen for både pistolskyting og leirdue
>>13986937
>Pellet gun
>Killing a coyote
I really doubt that's legal where you are.
>>13986937
>>13986933 describes generally what I and most of the people who live in my area and similar areas thoughts on them... but unfortunately the more urban part of Norway really fucking love having a "wide, beautiful fauna that is kept in balance by itself"
Aka the bumblefucks whose closest experience with wildlife was once seeing a squirrel outside their window
>>13986933
Stupid farmers crying about wolves so they can inflate their yearly loss of animals to get them government dollars
>>13986958
They deserve it. Farming is hard....I grew up on one. Thank god I got a easy indoor job that pays better
>>13986958
That happens aswell, and guess what; no wolf, nothing really to blame. The bear doesn't take more than it needs except for the special occascions of a crazed bear, and thats leaves only the wolverine which isn't really the easiest animal to hunt, nor is it such a ferocious killer
>>13986987
I bet in socialist norgay they're (farmers) heavily subsidized already
>>13987017
Yup, pretty much has to be due to the bloated wages and standard of living we have. We could easily remove all of it and live comfortably on imported food and goods, but then comes the day that ain't possible anymore and we have no way of producing our own food
Its a shame, really is
>cut its throat
>not humanely beating it to death with the collapsible shovel from your trunk
It's like you've never even heard of PETA.
PETA is a terrorist organization.
Just fucking leave it.
>>13987041
+1
>>13986952
Makes sense. The people making these laws don't even have to deal with the problem. There is something about completely killing off a species that is fucked up. But it's 2015, farmers need to survive and wolves have no place in populated areas.
>>13986946
I'm sure the pellet gun would take out a coyote. They aren't that big and I've taken out plenty of fat opossum and raccoons. And the pellets will go in and out of pidgeons and crows. The co2 one with a 12 pellet clip is really fun to hunt small animals with. The big spring piston one, you gotta hit the thing with the first shot.
Not sure about the legality in my old neighborhood, but nobody would care. In those urban/suburban areas, people hate coyotes. They were only in the area for a month or two, but everybody was freaked out about their dogs and cats when they were outside.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzwbOZKfrUQ
Could you handle beating an animal to death with a tire iron or crowbar as it makes this sound?
I'm laughing so hard I'm fucking going to die myself.
>>13987041
Just because PETA are assholes doesn't mean the ideal is a bad thing.
You have not seen the look in a scared, confused coyote's eyes when he's been run over by a snowmobile and his spine is broken. He doesn't know why his legs won't work. Everything hurts. He's shit and/or pissed himself. His pupils are dilated to hell. He's in a lot of pain, and he looks like a sad goddamn puppy in that instant.
Worse still is when trying to strangle him with your boot doesn't work and you park a snowmobile on him to hide him from passers-by, fortunately that seemed to collapse his lungs and asphyxiate him.
Also yeah, fuck you dad, you deliberately went out of your way to run him down, and herded him onto the trail where the rest of us where so we all went over him too.
>>13986663
>I can't have a gun in my car.
Why are your rights being infringed upon?
Oh God, this thread brings back a terrible memory.
>4 years ago
>17 years old and driving a 1975 chevy
>hit a moose going 60mph
>completely destroys front end of the truck and rips the moose in half
>stop and get out of the truck
>to my horror, half a moose is dragging itself along the ground into the brush on the side of the road
>it's screaming the worst noise I've ever heard
>I panic, grab a rock and go after it
>it's still breathing, letting out small screams and looking wide eyed when I approach it
>grab it's antler and begin smashing it's skull in with the rock
>blood is splatting my face
>finally finish, crying
>see something out of the corner of my eye, look up, a van full of college students stopped and was looking at me, covered in blood, crying in a ditch over half a moose
>>13986937
>killing "stray" cats
nigga not all outdoor cats have collars
>>13987777
>broke an animal that's a 1,000 pounds of retarded into different pieces
Good old chebby.
>>13987777
I know this is tragic and checked quads but goddamnit I'm laughing
>>13987777
This is a perfect post.
>>13987777
pics of truck?
>>13987391
Jesus fuck, this is awful. What the hell man.
>>13987777
the day anon became a real man
>>13987902
>"OH SHIT WHAT THE FUCK?!"
>"God damn it stupid fu-"
>BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUHH
>"Oh my god this fucking deer, what do I do?"
>BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH
>"Quick anon get the
>BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUHH
>"GET THE TIRE IRON"
>"Okay honey, I got it. Uhh..."
>BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUU
>"Oh my god anon put it out of its misery already"
>Deer looks up at anon
>Straight into his face
>BRAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUAWHHHH
>"OH MY GOD ANON HURRY UP THIS IS TERRIBLE"
>Anon rears back and is about to put the tire iron through the deer's skull
>BRAUUUUUUUUUUUUUAWWWW
>With a sharp and quick strike, anon recoils
>"OH MY GOD ANON IT'S NOT DEAD"
>The deer, now spitting and coughing up blood lowers its head
>In shock it screams still
>BRAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUWWWWW
Terrifying.
>>13986663
>What else is more humane?
applying a hammer directly to the forehead
Hit a deer last year. Kept going. It was in the ditch the next day. Hoping I knocked it there as opposed to some other responsible person pulling it off the road.
Karma warned me a few times since. Dodged a mangled deer carcass in the road and a few plastic recycling bins late at night/early morning. I stopped to pull the bins out of the road. I deserved it, I'll make sure to not create possible hazards for the next driver.
>>13987935
Head on
>>13986633
>Is it more humane to let an animal suffer in agony until it dies
>Or is it more humane to put the poor fucker out of its misery quickly.
Gee tough choice OP. Idk how someone could leave an animal dying on the side of the road and feel better about it than if they had put the thing to sleep.
Got a deer good on the way to a wheeling trip for canadian thanksgiving. It kinda hopped up and rolled into the windshield, did a 360 and fucked my door while jamming a hoof in the rear quarterpanel exposing lots of lovely rust.
I was the last in a convoy of about 8, and I radio`d down to the rest of the group to come help me put this thing out of its misery because they had rifles and I didn`t.
By the time they showed up, it had dragged its 3/4 retarded self to the edge of the road and somehow managed to make it over the barb wire fence and hobbled off.
Basically if it was in the road when the others got there, we would have shot it. But we weren't about to go chase the thing down to do it either.
>>13987777
Jesus...
>>13987803
The neighbors across the street had this awesome cat Joey that would always chill on my driveway. He would lay on the hood of my car, try to come in the house, and hop in my car if I left the door or trunk open when bringing in the groceries. One of the only cool cats I have ever met. Then the neighbors moved and Joey was gone.
But 98% of the cats around are strays. This is Florida, so these cats are everywhere at night. There is one cat that always chills on the same spot on the sidewalk a block or two away. I pass him every morning and he is always muggin at me. One morning, dude was walking his pitbull down the sidewalk and this cat tried to attack the dog and dude. Pitbull was just like "what the fuck?!" I want to shoot that cat especially bad.
>>13986943
är det lagligt för norrmännen att ha en pistol med i bilen?
>>13986633
cruise control at 50? who even cares?
>>13987777
nice quads
>>13987919
I laughed so hard I teared up. Thanks anon I really needed that.
>>13987600
Hehe, I remember you - you told me this story quite some time ago about how your father made you go on snowmobile trips with him and his drunken friends
>>13989030
Så lenga vapnet er deaktiverad (ingen ammunisjon i magasin, och en "vital" del fjernad som du har på deg) så er det lagligt. Jag har tändstiften i plånboken
I remember a few months ago having to pull out my car mirror with a welding chipping hammer after an owl hit it, and got trapped.
Fucker managed to live, and fly another day with only a little bit of shit shot along the side of my car, and some scratches in the mirror.
>>13986633
Storytime
>be 16
>friend is driving me and couple other dudes
>friend hits deer at 40 mph in truck
>deer is making awful in pain sound
>before I could think friend has jumped out of the car
>where is he going? Is he running away?
>look back at deer
>friend is repeating bashing the deers head in with tire iron
>friend gets back in car with blood splatters on shirt
>no one says a word the rest of the ride
>>13987731
This
go to your local pawn shop/swap meet/amazon.com and get one of those extendable steel batons with the ball tip. cheap as fuck and will be useful in case you hit a deer. I don't know if it will kill one instantly but better for it to die in 3 swings than to suffer another 12 hours before dying
>>13987731
He's probably a felon.
>>13987777
>>13987831
KEK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IocCC1-jeTY
>>13987731
>>13990290
No. If your not coming or going to the range, going hunting, or an FFL dealer or gun shop you can't have a gun in the car. I used to keep a .38 in my car when I lived in the south but that's not ok where I live now. I got a warning from a cop when he asked if there was anything in my car after he pulled me over a few years ago and I told him I had a revolver in the pouch on the back of my seat. I guess you need a CPL for that here
>>13990512
Try this in the future
>is anything in your car?
>no
>>13987777
I haven't laughed this hard for a post on 4chan in a long ass time
>>13986803
>If you shoot an animal and it runs off you HAVE to hunt it down and kill it.
Citation needed. This sounds like a state specific issue.
>>13990524
>nothing in the car?
>finds my gun
>why did you lie?
It's better to just tell the cop. A joint is one thing, a gun is another. But I honestly didn't know I couldn't keep a gun on my car. In the south everyone has a gun in their car and no one cares
>>13986650
Nigga wat? Do you have any idea how many 3 legged deer I have seen survive and even thrive in the wild? They have virtually no predators to contend with and a surplus of food supply in many areas.
