Just got back from a 3 week European vacation. I'm an American but I've always been a European car fan, I was super excited to see old Healys and Triumphs in England, Alfas and Lancias in Italy, and of course the new stuff too like Mclaren, Ferrari, etc. Guess what: NOBODY drives cars like this in Europe. EVERYWHERE I went all I see was shitty little hatchbacks, crossovers, and a "nice" car would be a 3 series diesel. I saw a single cool car in England, a Gallardo... with a plate from the middle east. I've been reading these posts from Europeans on /o/ for years implying everyone there is rich and drives 7 series and S classes, yet driving through a rich area in Germany it was nothing but generic shitboxes. What a joke, I actually came back to the US with an appreciation for ricer teenagers with fartcan Civics, at least they are participating in the hobby in some way. Next time a European poster tries to vaguely imply he has a nice car (looking back it's odd, I've never seen a bread on hood or timestamp of an enthusiast type car from a European poster) remember this thread, chances are he drives a Seat or Skoda or some piece of shit like that.
>>15376019
>Europeans are poor and have no hobbies
No shit. That's what happens when you live in socialism.
The also live in shitty little brick row housing that would be considered federal welfare housing in the US. "Muh brick".
I don't even read European posts. It's basically the third world.
>>15376019
It took you that long to realize the anti-American shitposting was just from jealous, sour grapes eurocucks?
Hey, anon, you seemed to have dropped your generalization! Might want to pick it up again.
>>15376019
They're called europoors for a reason.
>>15376019
I've been saying that for years. Just watch Top Gear when they are driving around nicer suburbs in the UK. It is a ton of shitty little silver hatchbacks in the background.
Even if you live in a shitty area in the US, you will see a handful of Mustangs and Camaros when you take a short drive to work.
>I've been reading these posts from Europeans on /o/ for years implying everyone there is rich
No, you didn't.
>>15376109
That's because even Mustangs and Camaros are cheap, disposable shitboxes in the US. The only way Detroit can even stay afloat is by shitting out bargain bin turds for all the poorfags who didn't make it but want to look like they did.
>>15376019
gas prices bruh
>>15376125
same guy
get this, if i buy a NB miata in my country it's a pretty big deal, you legit rarely see more than one a week
never seen a NA in my life
>>15376125
Also no space to pile up old shit. European cars at the end of their European life usually wander to the slav realm or to Africa because it's simply the easier way to handle it. Americans just dump them on a yard in the middle of nowhere until someone digs them back up 40 years later.
>>15376120
Camaros/Mustangs are relatively cheap but nowadays they are serious performance cars. Even the lower spec versions are able to embarrass (or sometimes completely shit on) European cars with twice the price. You can argue about quality but that just means you're looking for a car to use as an appliance or a tool.
>>15376153
>driving in a straight line
>performance
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>15376132
In the US you see 10 NA's for every NB, 10 NB's for ever NC, and 10 NC's for every ND.
>>15376163
LOL you been living under a rock? Haven't heard of the new Z06 or ACR?
>>15376019
I don't know why people here want life to be like this. Would prefer a more 'murican life with guns and cars desu.
You should have gone to one of those immigrant, or gypsy neighborhoods, they get all da good cars with their bux.
>>15376163
i used to feel that way too anon... but the newer ones are very happy around corners
it scares me that i'm tempted to get the new 10 speed Camaro
>>15376166
Where in the US are there a bunch of NAs?
In Texas I think I've only ever seen a couple of NAs in person, NBs are relatively common, there's a few NCs (and they're even uglier in real life than in the photos), and I have yet to see an ND.
>>15376163
A new M3/M4 isn't better than a new Camaro SS or ATS-V for instance. In most measurable aspects, the GM cars do better.
>this is what passes for an enthusiast car in Europe
>tfw love shit boxes
>tfw anytime I got to Europe I get excited seeing their shit boxes
Spent last summer in France and took pictures of every Twingo I saw...
>>15376120
More performance in a V6 Camaro than your 1.3L diesel 3-doors. And that Camaro might even be painted bright red or yellow and somewhat exciting to look at for the average person.
>>15376177
Most millennials think easter eggs and tiny homes are hip and clever.
>>15376193
I am enthusiastic about this car. In Europe.
>>15376202
Get out of the city.
>>15376197
Why would you take this picture, there's literally nothing exciting about it.
>>15376228
http://www.wjbdradio.com/LocalNews/Bond-Set-At--50-000-For-Alma-Man-Charged-With-Criminal-Sexual-Assault
Fuck off rapist.
>>15376177
Because our infrastructure and resource demand would collapse if we all drove around all the time like Americans do. According to my own calculations German roads are already as much frequented as American roads per mile (with fewer lanes) even though we only drive half as much a year as they do. Imagine double the traffic.
>>15376228
Fuck that. I just moved into the city to get away from 1hr rush hours commutes that should only take 15 mins.
City life is great and my business in the city.
aye well, since the economy here collapsed post brexit we've all had to downsize, gone are the Jaaags and the Beauford, to be replaced by this.....
>>15376243
Then don't complain about how city folk are liberals with no desires or motivations.
>>15376019
So you are telling me, that you expected to see nice "enthusiast" cars in public exposed to everyday use? Especially in a EU controlled commie country?
Should have visited a non-EU commie country.
>pic related
>>15376228
>there's literally nothing exciting about it
Because you aren't a yuro
And IIRC, the chick driving that Boxster was so damn fine.
>>15376265
Even I as a car enthusiast am annoyed by how stubbornly obsessed with cars /o/ is.
Cars aren't the solution to all our problems, life can exist without cars, people without cars aren't automatically failures, in fact it's impossible for the entire world to become as car based as the US. They're just a nice hobby to some and a burdening necessity to others, and the US are the global exception in car based infrastructure, not the standard, get over it.
>>15376019
Yuro here, I felt kind of similar about going on vacation to Japan. It was just Toyota shitboxes everywhere.
Anyway I saw a Lancia earlier today so your argument is invalid
>>15376278
I see brand new boxsters all day long.
Why would I be impressed by a first gen shitty boxster that performed literally miata bad? That's a $4k car.
>>15376276
>implying car meets don't exist everywhere
...But it's better.
I just got back from my euro vacation too and I was amazed. The transportation infrastructure is better than the US.
People only drive a car if they absolutely need it.
Even then everyone drives 1.0 liter hatches because that's all a person really needs.
Roads are tight as fuck so everyone is focused on driving not fucking texting or music or makeup or whatever
>>15376295
I did not imply that. I said that not everyone is willing to use his classic or enthuasiast car in everyday use and mostly will just take it for drives on weekends or take it to car meets. Thus i used the picture from a car meet to imply that these car are mostly shown off there.
>>15376265
It's funny you say that because most rural dwellers I know drive easter eggs fuel sippers in an effort to save money on their commutes to work. Which is also ass backwards imo. If you're spending long stints commuting, luxury is the only way to go.
>>15376298
Europe love's their trains, trolleys and bicycle lanes.
In America we love the freedom afforded by having a car, the ability to drive anywhere in the country quickly and efficiently on our sweet interstate freeways. Have fun rubbing up aganist sweaty immigrants and trying to get work done with your transit vans and hatchbacks.
I'll drive wherever I want, whenever I want in my fun to drive car that I take pride in.
>>15376280
>>15376298
Where do posters like this come from? Do you go to /ck/ and say
>Why do you cook food? Just go to McDonalds, it's all you need.
>what's the deal with reading books /lit/, you can get all the info you need from TV
>>15376318
I can tell you've either never been to the US, or never been out of the city before.
>>15376019
>driving through a rich area in Germany
what area was that OP?
the thing is people - IF - they have nice cars, only take them out on nice days or special occasions, because if you already have the money for a nice car in germany, you also have the money to own a beater shitbox.
if you actually want to see nice cars, go to the Ring, there's nice stuff there 24/7
>>15376325
I don't know why you think you can't have both. I use the train and my car for different things
>>15376337
2 / 4
>>15376325
>Have fun rubbing up aganist sweaty immigrants and trying to get work done with your transit vans
or we can drive? Also theres nothing wrong with a transit
>>15376336
0 for 2
>>15376325
Have fun being forced to drive an hour each way because you wouldn't even have been able to find work otherwise thanks to urban planning that relies entirely on cars, with a 65 mph general speed limit on roads that are absolutely falling apart. American roads are horrid, you only think they're good because Canadian and Mexican roads are even worse. I can take my car and drive wherever I want in Europe, too, but that doesn't make driving everywhere and planning your settlements around cars a smart thing to do.
And pride doesn't make shitty things better, it only distorts your image of shitty things.
>>15376346
3 / 4
>>15376353
this one's for all my european BMW drivers
>>15376335
Because cars are my hobby. But that doesn't make them the cure for the world, you thick headed fucking moron. I would walk to work if it were closer, and then enjoy my car in my free time.
>>15376019
You are correct.
Here in germany everyone drives a hatchback, wagon or SUV.
>>15376360
Drop nukes on NRW.
>>15376373
> t. Berlin
but as a RLPler I do agree
>>15376360
nice touch lel
>>15376019
Why didn't you visit f.e.Moscow then? In the west you don't show your wealth like a nigger, while in the east nobody will take your company serious if you drive a VW instead of S-class.
>>15376372
Wagons ARE superior to sedans though. If you care about MUH UPSCALE IMAGE, drive a coupe, not a fucking sedan. Sedans are the most redundant bodystyle in the world.
>>15376378
No, I'm t. Sturmabteilung
>>15376382
>MUH UPSCALE IMAGE
I dont care about this but i like coupes more because they just look better.
The real question is:
Do you know any good sporty coupes a working class person can buy?
Most of the "working class" performance cars are hatchbacks.
Hatchbacks are gay.
Living in Karlsruhe and I see 2-3 Porsches daily.
Also saw this beauty last week
The nearby annual US car meet is on again in early August. This time I'll take a camera to bring back stuff for /o/. I expect my work colleague with the chipped 580 hp Ram SRT-10 to be there again, too.
AMERICANS NEED A PICKUP FOR THIS
OP is a clueless faggot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmnIsnN2DTI
>>15376361
Cool. Who are you arguing with?
>I DON'T LIKE CARS AS MUCH AS SOME OTHER PEOPLE THAT MAKES ME MAD
>>15376405
Beauty, but it's a kit car
>>15376402
Used market breh.
>>15376423
>I LOOK DOWN ON EVERYONE WHO LIKES CARS LESS THAN ME BECAUSE IN MY MIND I'M ALWAYS RIGHT
>>15376415
"need"
>>15376019
Get to Switzerland sometime, breh.
We also have shitty cars, but also a lot of people driving nice cars.
>>15376432
I couldn't care less whether someone likes cars or not. You are on a car board. Like I said, I don't like cooking, but I wouldn't go to /ck/ and tell them they like their hobby too much and cooking shouldn't be a necessity.
>>15376423
By the way being aware that cars aren't an end in itself doesn't have anything to do with liking cars less. I would even argue the opposite. Driving would be ruined and cars would be doomed if everyone had the same view on cars as you do.
>>15376445
Cooking isn't a necessity. You can consume many things raw, including - contrary to American beliefs - meat and milk.
>>15376446
>the same view on cars as you do.
And what view is that?
>>15376437
I NEED TO HAUL HEAVY THINGS LIKE
A CLOSET OR A BARREL OF BEER ONCE A YEAR
I NEED A TRUCK
I
NEED
A
TRUCK!!!!!!!!
>>15376464
That cars can't be criticized apparently, judging by the way you react to people taking a realistic approach to cars.
>>15376471
"need"
>>15376482
Not sure where you came up with that. Only commented that it's very odd behavior to go to a board 100% focused on cars, then telling posters they shouldn't be a necessity and they are too "obsessed" with them (even though nobody said anything like that to begin with, your really just made up an imaginary "view" in the thread to argue against it).
>>15376437
>>15376491
I can't help it, that's what truck owners usually comment on their trucks. No one with a Mustang will say they need a Mustang, but truck owners are extremely quick to come up with reasons for owning a truck. Otherwise this "I NEED A TRUCK" stereotype wouldn't even exist.
>>15376491
that's what they say on /o/
>>15376254
>economy collapsed
What, for half a day? And you sold your Jag? You're an idiot m8
>>15376511
Someone implied that people not striving for car ownership have no desires or motivation. If that's not obsession I don't know what is.
>>15376528
*drives off in his easter egg to his tiny home*
>>15376514
Some people do need trucks. I need my truck a few times a year typically. The rest of the year I drive it because I like it.
If it was all based on need people would all ride scooters or public transportation to work, and rent a car when it's necessary.
>>15376544
There it is again. If my life goals aren't Fisher Price Detroit barges and glorified plywood warehouses I'm apparently an inferior person.
>>15376551
glad you finally get it
>>15376547
But that's what a lot of people in less car obsessed places do. Take whatever transportation they prefer or view as more useful on a daily basis, rent something when they need it. Why would I drive an expensive to run truck or van every day when I'm only moving once a decade and my bagged lawn trimmings can fit in the back of my hatch?
>>15376560
Because you don't need a hatchback. It's cheaper to rent a car for the day to run those errands than it is to own the car every day and pay insurance and registration on it.
>Less car obsessed places
Like where? Yuro cities have just as bad of traffic problems as some American cities do.
>>15376569
that doesn't look like london m8
>>15376569
Except that I do save ten minutes each way on driving a car to work as opposed to a bicycle, and buses don't run this early.
>Yuro cities have just as bad of traffic problems as some American cities do.
Yeah and guess how much worse it would be if we drove as much as Americans, too. Look at it from the opposite side. Even though American cities are planned around cars, you have traffic problems just as bad as cities that have been built in the middle ages for horse carriages and walking because you drive so insanely much.
>>15376569
>>15376578
Judging from the writing on the banner it's Thailand or closeby.
hi /o/! cars is stupid, I'd walk if I could
plz respond
daily reminder
>>15376019
Should have come to Switzerland instead of the UK. Everybody knows that taxes in the UK are prohibitively high for most people to own "nice" cars. Here in Switzerland my 136 hp 2.2L Camry is way below the average (new cars sold 2015 did average some 170 hp). M-series BMWs are very common, can't go a day without seeing one... and a sunny sunday is getting rather out of hand in certain areas and the mountain passes.
There's a reason people like to call us mountain jews.
>>15376528
>>15376551
One of my best friends is 38, has never had a drivers license, and lived in SF his whole life. Do I think he is an "inferior person"? No. You know what he doesn't do? Go to auto imageboards and tell people that they should be less obsessed with cars. This is the real divide between Americans and Europeans. Americans drive if they want, or don't if they don't want, and don't care what other people do. Europeans complain about what people in other countries do, tell them they should do it differently, complain about people being passionate about a hobby on a site for people that are passionate about a hobby to discuss it, and then have an inferiority complex if anyone suggests their complaints are unfounded.
>>15376598
is that a syclone or just an s10?
>>15376583
You'd be better off with a scooter or small motorcycle. You don't need a car.
Also most american cities are not planned around cars, most were established many years ago so while the interstate and highway infrastructure have improved there isn't much improvement to be made in the cities themselves.
>>15376578
I just grabbed the first pic off of google. You're right it doesn't look like London. My bad
I'm in Ireland right now on a 3 week vacation. Started in Italy and couldn't believe how shit the cars were. Germany wasn't much better I can't believe I actually believed car culture in Europe was better than america. It honestly may be the biggest letdown yet.
>>15376019
> I saw a single cool car in England, a Gallardo... with a plate from the middle east.
Should've left London. Country bumpkin here, and I see plenty of old MGs, TVRs, Morgans, and Caterhams provided the weather's favourable.
>>15376290
Or you could read the response Ethan. If you were a Yuro, you would be stoked to see that Boxster because it was at least 50,000£ after paying taxes to be allowed a 6cyl engine and a yellow paint job.
Plus I'm on the iPhone so I wasn't even sure what that pic was until I uploaded it. Then I remember I took that pic because the chick driving it was a 12/10.
No clue what this pic is.
Also what's with eurofags parking literally anywhere? On curbs or sidewalks anywhere they can stop they just leave their cars. Shits ridicules.
>>15376610
Looks like a syclone but the thread was over a year ago so I can't remember exactly
>>15376606
>Europeans complain about what people in other countries do
It's funny because the entire thread started with an American complaining about what people in other countries do.
>>15376613
Lies...
Any major city in the US and you will see far more expensive cars. Tons of flagship luxury cars (S550+, A8, 760iL) and if you go out at night then the supercars will be out.
>>15376613
i've seen all of those in london except morgans
>>15376616
seriously? those boxsters start from less than £4k here
>>15376611
>wanting to ride a two wheeler on cobblestone in the winter
Yeah right.
>>15376626
If it's legal to park on the road you can park on the road. Usually only applies to residential streets with no through-traffic. Absolutely no problem. We don't have the space to waste on acres of parking lots on every corner.
>>15376626
You telling me that you can't park your car on the curb in the land of freedoms?
>>15376645
No anon we aren't talking about wants here, we are talking about needs. You don't need a car.
>>15376638
It's not our fault that Americans are obsessed with showing off their entire wealth (or sometimes more when you're talking to Longpost Guy about his ridiculous trade-in stories) through their cars. Flaunting wealth is far less common in Europe and our millionaires have no issues daily driving E-Classes and the like because they're the most practical option.
Also the wealth disparity is bigger in the US, which means that for every cunt showing off in a supercar there's a number of people living in utter poverty and usually contributing to your horrid crime rates compared to western Europe.
>>15376638
>S550+, A8, 760iL
but these are all european cars?
>>15376663
Well I don't need to get into crashes for trying to ride a two wheeler on cobblestone. My co-worker has to park his Ram SRT-10 for four months a year because not even that thing on its four wide tires will ever go in a straight line on cobblestone when it's wet.
>implying america is any different
>>15376616
Ireland here
We are a poor small anti car l shithole
Within a 3 mile radius of me there is an aventador tesla p90D a p85d Ferrarri FF two r8's a newish model 911 turbo lots of m4's m3's and AMG's and a reliant robin police car
>>15376638
lol at this ignorance for example london is the financial capital of the world they buy supercharged £100k+ rangerovers there every 6 months. You see the best cars in the world there better than any city in the US by a mile
>>15376667
European cars that sell better in the US. I don't think most Yuros realize that those companies don't sell the real low end cars in the US like an S350 or whatever the hell they make. Up until recently, a 328i was the lowest 3 Series that you could buy in the US.
>>15376640
Then why does everybody buy such boring grey shitboxes everywhere?
>>15376665
Typical Yuro making stuff up. I was going to respond but it's not worth arguing your pretend view of the world that is based on LPG stories.
>tfw the Yuro middle class takes the bus
>tfw the Yuro upper middle class drives Skodas with manual windowd
>tfw the American middle class drives 300HP+ Challengers
Not every millionaire drives around in a Ferrari in the US. Especially places with bad winters because it is such a terrible investment for something you can only drive a few weekends a year.
>>15376683
You should visit LA or Miami
>>15376683
oh and the silver SS from this >>15376598 collage thats for some reason put in the American collage
>>15376019
How? I see classic cars all the time. Lots of American classics around lately but also lots of old British roadsters etc.
>>15376760
you should visit london
>>15376745
>Then why does everybody buy such boring grey shitboxes everywhere?
Some people need more than 2 seats or just don't care that much about cars. I thought about getting an older Boxster myself but settled on a newer MX-5
>>15376778
I have. 30 minutes in Longboat Key Florida you'll see more exotic/interesting cars than you'd see in a week in London
>I've seen more richfags during my whole lifetime in the US than during the couple of weeks I was in the EU
>that means I can make an argument againts someone
this is like cuckolds; the thread
why does it even matters if you have seen more expensive cars in a certain place, you are a cuck for thinking that somehow makes you betrer than anyone
whats next, are you going to brag about girls you have not banged?
>>15376778
>he doesn't even have the Brabus package
Like I said, you should visit Miami.
>>15376197
>>15376616
>>15376638
>our cities aren't populated by shitboxes
they sure do look like they are
>>15376745
There's nothing wrong with Skodas. Also only daddy-money teenagers and showoff manchildren drive Challengers.
And personally I wouldn't drive an expensive car in the US simply because you guys are incapable of not crashing your doors or shopping carts into other cars or keying them out of spite.
>>15376805
Nah bro Camrys and Altimas are much more respectable cars than Golfs and Fiestas.
>>15376805
It's not nearly as bad as Yurop. There is a fair share of shitboxes, but there are so many $100k+ cars I pass everyday just driving to work and middle class areas are full of $40k+ trucks, SUVs, and full size sedans instead of little $15k hatchbacks with manual windows.
>>15376797
>>he doesn't even have the Brabus package
wat? They're both brabus 6x6's
>>15376794
you weren't looking hard enough
look up all them youtubers they have made alot of money from supercarspottting the money in london is insane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ola5vDK05w
>>15376809
You spend too much time on 4chan
>>15376828
>America has more space to waste
>this makes our large disposable plastic buckets more worthwhile than your small disposable plastic buckets
>hurr
>>15376828
All financed out the ass
its the same over here too though full of x5's rangerovers s-classes 7 series etc, my neighbour has a 7 series and an s-class
>>15376833
>made money supercarspotting
It's so hard finding supercars in London that people are paid to do it?
And it's pretty much this >>15376815
I'm sure there are supercars in London, but what the average person in Yurop drives (if they drive) compared to the average middle class American, the Yuropeein cars are such shitboxes.
>>15376833
>youtubers supercar spotting
Wut?
>>15376833
>all Chinese people and Arabs
>people crowd around taking pictures and people actually devote youtube channels to seeing $50k-150k cars because it's such a rare occurrence to see nice cars in the UK
USA BTFO!
>>15376861
>>15376838
>>15376828
>fleet driver
>"oh but you see since I saw this expensive car that is not mine that means Im better"
>>15376861
I was being sarcastic actually. A Camry is the exact same cheap shit as a Golf, it only has more of a trunk bulge on the rear.
>>15376019
Lovely delicious bait
>>15376861
>It's so hard finding supercars in London that people are paid to do it?
it isn't and i see some but no one pays me
>>15376861
>but what the average person in Yurop drives (if they drive) compared to the average middle class American, the Yuropeein cars are such shitboxes.
from all the pics posted here you guys aren't proving anything
>>15376651
Not on literally any curb they find. We have spots everywhere for a reason.
>>15376645
I guess I shouldn't count Rome as those fucks don't follow any rules at all. But even small German towns pop up on the curb or make a 2-way street one way the way they park.
>>15376869
you've clearly never lived there
>rare occurrence
the uk has a better used market than the us
>>15376872
It's not about me. OP never mentioned me. It's about how Yuros love shitting on the US but their car culture is terrible and the average person there has no concept of a car actually being something to be used for enjoyment.
>>15376873
It's true though. A V6 Maxima would be much better to drive on the open road than a 3cyl Renault
>>15376905
Sorry, I don't take pics of the hundreds of Mustangs and Camaros and dozens of AMGs, Ms, and Maseratis I see daily. Shitty iPhone with its limited memory.
It is true though. Car culture over there is pretty awful. Not that modern American car culture is great, but it seems excitement is a higher priority for an American car shopper than a European one.
>>15376947
What open road? You mean your 65 mph restricted highways? I do 80 all day long with a 90 hp shitbox on the Autobahn, I could do 90 if I wanted. Are you really dense enough to think that a 300 hp V6 is beneficial to fucking along at unimpressive highway speeds?
>>15376019
Kinda reminds me when I went on a 2 week vacation in Tokyo Japan back in 09 I expected Tokyo drift cars all over......Nope nothing but strange compact "car buss" things all over and I only saw 2 cool cars both where Nissan GTR R34's which I didnt expect. plenty of bicycles laying in bushes all over tho lol
>>15376745
>why does everybody buy such boring grey shitboxes
because in europe normies don't give a shit about cars
>>15376947
>its about how yuros love shitting on the us
yet this thread was started by an american and you are here shitposting aswell
just for the record, im not a yuropoor, but you are pathetic
>>15376947
>I don't take pics of the hundreds of Mustangs and Camaros and dozens of AMGs, Ms, and Maseratis I see daily.
oh no! sorry I don't do so either, but trust me I do see them every day!
>>15377012
He probably does, but that doesn't make them noteworthy cars. Mustangs and Camaros are just $30k shitboxes that happen to have larger engines than most cars at the expense of everything else being even worse quality.
>>15377002
>imblyign I care about some kid on /o/ who refuses to hear the truth
It's Sunday and I'm waiting for laundry to dry. I have nothing better to do. Sometimes we need a thread to take a shot back at all the Yuros who do nothing but complain about Burgers.
>>15377001
A lot of Americans are like that too, but there seem to be a lot more people here willing to sacrafice practicality and gas mileage to drive something somewhat sporty and fun.
>>15376968
>implying the Autobahn runs all through Yurop
>implying you can even reach high speeds on the majority of it when there are any other cars on the road
>implying people in the US actually drive 65mph in a 65mph zone
>implying it isn't wayyyy easier to get fucked for speeding with all the cameras in Yurop
>>15376947
>Sorry, I don't take pics of the hundreds of Mustangs and Camaros and dozens of AMGs, Ms, and Maseratis I see daily. Shitty iPhone with its limited memory.
We see them too though, I've already stated the cars in my area
>Car culture over there is pretty awful
And why is this? You have no Idea what your talking about, you have no experience with euro car culture do you? Its too diverse anyway to call it "euro"
>it seems excitement is a higher priority for an American car shopper than a European one
This is just nonsense, explain your reasoning?
>our car enthusiasts are better than your car enthusiasts
>our cities are full of shitboxes but our shitboxes are better than yours
Typical yank ignorance talking shite
>>15376947
>the average person there has no concept of a car actually being something to be used for enjoyment.
t. country with 90% auto slushboxes
>>15377033
>the truth
what "truth"?
that you are a bitter fleet driver?
>>15377033
>Yuros who do nothing but complain about Burgers.
holy fugg that pot and kettle action you guys do nothing but complain about euros
>>15377033
>get fucked for speeding
I can go 15 miles over the limit and still pay less than 50 bucks for it. In six years of driving I've been caught twice.
>>15377047
97% actually.
>>15377048
stay cucked yurop
>>15377090
btfo
>>15377039
Britcuckistan is the worst by far as far as the ratio of exciting cars to people who talk about how shitty American cars are. I'm sure there are a few pockets of Yurop where it probably isn't quite so bad. But just by opening your eyes and looking around the two different areas of the world, you will quickly realize that most of Yurop has an awful car culture despite the fact that the residents go on about how terrible American cars are and how the automobiles they manufacture are so much better.
And there are many reasons behind why the car culture is shitty. Taxes, fuel prices, cramped cities, short commutes. But I have yet to find a reason for the othet half of the problem, which is why Yuros talk so much shit about Burger cars and driving culture when theirs is so much worse. Is it jealousy? That would be my guess.
And this is why OP made this thread after spending some time in the UK and coming back to the US.
>claims Yank ignorance
>even though the thread is just a dude stating the observations he made after seeing another part of the world for himself
Really mate? I'm an aussie on holiday in poland and I see plenty of nice stuff
Not even including twingos and all these manual merc wagons That we miss out on
>>15377109
>considers Twingos and Merc wagons "nice"
There is your problem
>>15377119
Twingos are nice for the irony and shitposting.
Manual nerc wsgond are bice because I cab do sick skid s and the cops can get fucksd becsuse i'm in a merc and thdy wonn'5 give shit
>>15377139
Did you also spot some Fiat 125p and 126p?
I spot some every year in traffic while on vacation in poland.
>>15376185
there are like 15 I see locally and I live in Iowa
>>15377143
Yeah, only spotted one so far tho, the polski mr2 one
pretty great place to holiday m8, buying desiger shit for fuckal and everyrhing costs pissall compard to aus
>>15377104
>Britcuckistan is the worst by far as far as the ratio of exciting cars to people who talk about how shitty American cars are.
What are you basing that off? What you see on /o/?
>Taxes, fuel prices
so we can still enjoy our cars, that doesn't make our car culture shitty, Also its different in each country
>cramped cities, short commutes
what are you talking about? We won't be able to like cars as much because of this?
>Yuros talk so much shit about Burger cars
You are literal proof that yanks are just as bad
>Is it jealousy
Don't flatter yourself sweetheart
>And this is why OP made this thread
Its bait, if its not the US is full of shitboxes your own pics prove that
>>15377104
Because cars made in Europe are superior to American built pieces of shit
Whether joe blow in the states drives a v6 mustang or henry barb in the uk drives a 4cyl golf, it's irrelevant, and to make the argument that what you saw in everyone's daily commute in a week of vacation compared to what you've seen in your life time domestically, is just plain retarded
This thread is a sorry attempt to shit post and it's quite pathetic desu
>>15376254
>collapsed
Oh abloobloo a public vote somehow crashed the economy with no survivors
>>15376883
Definately. My dad lives in Italy, I visit almost every year and see tons of nice cars around Rome. Yeah, of course most of the cars are average cars, not everybody's into it and performance modifications are mostly illegal. But I see lots of Maseratis and other exotics around. Its more of a biker country though, due to traffic.
Op just had bad luck or is full of shit.
>>15377090
>tell him in not a yurocuck
>"stay cucked yurop"
not very bright
Meh, I saw a Tesla in Berlin when I visited Yurop. That being said I also saw a Tesla yesterday at the local richfag grocerystore.
>>15376405
Karlsruhe here too, there's also this guy comuting in a fucking flat black Aventador everyday on Kriegsstraße
And underground garages in Oststadt or Neubaugebiet are packed with 6 and 8 cylinder BMWs, newer Porsches, hell I even park my good ol' Xantia besides a Volvo S60 T6 everyday
>>15377321
>6 cylinder BMWs
And that's one of the better areas for car culture in Yurop?
>>15377345
>car culture
>the bigger the engine the better the culture
Americans
>>15377372
>cars that would be considered base model in the US
>impressive
This is so weird to me, living in Vancouver. All I see is exotics and luxury cars. Everyone drives a new S class or audi S7 or insert your nice new car of choice here. It's pretty boring and I only turn my head when someone drives by in a JDM car (which are also pre common)
>>15377345
I'm not talking about your average 520i m8y
530i e39, 530i e61, heck even an Alpina B10 3.2. Amongst other nice cars in a twenty car garage, under an unassuming appartment building. All in mint condition.
If these aren't enthusiast tier where you live, what is?
>>15377393
>base models are faster than american "sports cars"
>>15377393
>impressive
you were talking about car culture though and how the amount of cylinders is somehow relevant to that
>>15377486
that's not that special. i'm in yurop too and under my apartment block I've seen a couple of 911s, an aston, a G wagon, conti GT, RR sport, delta integrale (parked there right now), MGB GT and an abarth 500. the rest are mid-tier BMWs and mercs and a few shitboxes
>yfw more Americans on /o/ own high end European sports cars than actual Europeans do
>>15377414
Thats because your city is owned by chinks
>>15377556
Well I also get to see my share of recent Maseratis and supercharged Jaguars, but to me they don't have the don't have the same appeal. I can't help but thinking that the guy keeping his 20yo e39 in absolutely stunning condition and free from any turk-tier mods is more of an enthusiast than your neighbour with the G Class.
>>15377523
>>15377540
Assmad Porsche fangirls spotted
100% chance this baitposter only went to london. Only durkas have supercars in london, it's a pain in the arse to drive there. I live in cheshire which is a fairly rich area and within 20 mins of me there are Mclaren, Rolls Royce, Tesla, Lotus, and Bentley dealerships plus dealers from all the German makes. I'd say I see a low end exotic (DB9, Maserati, California, F-Type etc) every couple of days and a real exotic like a 650S, 458, Aventador about every 2 weeks. There's a guy on my road who literally has a BMW i8 and a Bentley Conti GT
>>15377523
>M2
>Base model
I'm a britbong but come on
>>15376019
>there's no enthusiasts in Europe because I only saw shitboxes
lol
>>15376638
miami???
I took this pic in suburban Wisconsin at a grocery store. I did a double take because I've never seen one in person before.
>>15377875
>There's a guy on my road who literally has a BMW i8 and a Bentley Conti GT
>He's impressed by seeing an i8 and Continental
stop
>>15376019
>>15376068
this is the type of shit ive been saying for YEARS now
Europeans have it SHIT compared to American living standards
im european and im aching to live in a place like America or Australia
so much space, much less tax etc
everyone here drives their shitbox proudly with the tagline ''if it brings me from A to B, why would anything else matter?''
Europe = HELL for car enthusiasts.
Why do Americans have such a weird obsession with Yurop?
>>15376019
>Europeans shitpost CONSTANTLY about how American cars are shit, American car culture is shit etc.
>The inverse is actually true
>ST-STOP GENERALIZING
I've been all over Europe and what OP said is completely true; at best you have entry-level luxury cars and "premium" hatchbacks, elsewhere (notably Italy) you have $12,000 shitboxes which are parked by playing bumper cars.
Also despite having WAY less to pave, Yuro roads are somehow consistently shittier quality overall.
>>15378120
>he's not impressed by a $140,000 hybrid supercar and a $200,000 luxury GT
Nigger are u srs
Nigga we cant pass inspection with tinted tail lights. There are enthusiasts out there but most are riced e36s. Some guys even swap engines yearly to pass inspection. Afaik western europe is as bad as it can be-fitting wider tires is illegal.
>>15376019
Should have come to Australia m8, we'll take care of ya!
>Girlfriend is American, came to Australia recently and said she actually prefers it here
>But if it's any consolation, I would probably take living in America over Australia if I had the choice
>>15378368
I can tell you've never been to the US because American roads are absolutely terrible quality despite being less stressed.
>>15380703
>hurr half a continent is one nation
>>15376360
>Muslim BMW
Feels good to not be a European cuck.
>>15376019
>everything bought on loans
>"We're rich!"
Guys, I just did the math...
US average gas price: 2,40 USD per GALLON
NL average gas price; 1,60 EUR per LITER
Converted this means;
6,74 USD for a GALLON of European gas.
0,57 EUR for a LITER of US gas.
>>15376019
>old Healys and Triumphs in England, Alfas and Lancias in Italy, and of course the new stuff too like Mclaren, Ferrari, etc. Guess what: NOBODY drives cars like this in Europe
I see them all the time in the UK.
>>15377875
>There's a guy on my road who literally has a BMW i8 and a Bentley Conti GT
Nothing special there, they are all over the place, well the GTs are, i8s are a bit more rare.
I didn't even read through this thread, but i am sure it is the most monumental america vs. Europe shitpost festival, since the founding of 4chan
>>15376019
>a "nice" car would be a 3 series diesel.
spain sucks, I know.
eurocuck regulations for smog and noise and a million other things, europoverty, etc. I have a Sierra that might end up in a scrapyard because GM q u a l i t y and people talk about it like it's the ultimate dorifuto machine. now imagine the shitboxes they drive...
I have to admit I have fun driving my gf's 1.5L non-turbo diesel cuckbox. manual windows, no power steering, no airbags. feels like an actual car compared to the commercial shitboxes everyone has. shit sucks to no end.
>>15380878
spain used to be GOAT for car modifications, sucks that the fascist EU implemented their regulations
>>15380875
Americans are simply on to us. The hoax is up.... 90% of cars here are hatchback shitbox combo's.
>>15380878
Best selling car in the EU is the 320, best selling car in the USA is the Toyota Corolla 2L.
>>15380817
Yeah but in america you die, when you get sick because no one pays taxes on the fuel, so the state can afford cheap insurance for everyone
Pretty sure most of my fellow euros enjoy being cucked. They are scared of freedom and responsibility. They want to save the climate and all of Africa. Genuinely mentally ill people. I'd move if I could.
>>15380817
Proving that America is too poor to pay the actual cost of fuel.
>>15380905
>my fellow euros
Posting from a US IP address. Sure is summer in here.
>>15380914
>IP adress being visible
wat
whats my IP then aglord
not him btw
>>15378106
Mequon or something?
@15380918
It's not, hes just a newfag
>>15380942
maybe he has some 1337 H4X skills
>>15380918
IPV6: 2001:558:6216
>>15376683
powerful two liter cars m8
>>15376019
>I was expecting to see everyone driving old and mostly expensive cars
>>15378368
Americans constantly shut post about Europe
There are shitboxes on both sides we can see that from the pic posted and from being having been there
>but muh car culture
There's that word again
>>15381021
Wat
>>15381293
There is no arguing against the fact that it is cheaper and easier to be a car enthusiast in a country where modifications are allowed, way less taxation occurs and fuel costs 1/3 of what it does here. You are in denial, wake up so we can change how things are here in eurostan
>>15380914
I wish that was true
>>15381443
Of course it's going to be easier and cheaper to be a car enthusiast in a country that's almost entirely built around cars. Car enthusiasm is the standard thing to do in the US. Try being a car enthusiast in Europe and see if you can do a better job at it than us.
>>15380817
NL price is after sales tax. For a correct comparison the NL price should read 1.32€/L and $5.57/gal.
>>15381443
>its easier to be an enthusiast
>so we like cars more than you guys
no, we like cars no amount of taxation and regulation or "car culture" will ever change that
Its such a stupid argument "we like cars more than you"
ugh
>here in eurostan
>euro as in one country
your obviously an American
>>15380900
>>15380907
>being this butthurt
>>15380938
Brookfield actually.
Apparently this guy comes in often and he's a doctor. Asian guy in a blue suit. I see all sorts of typically richfag cars there, I'd say on average there are more Audis than Toyotas. I even saw one of those Porsche Cayennes.
I also saw a C7 Corvette the other day there too with some super tall driver. Might have been a Bucks player.
I'll take pics of interesting cars in the parking lot next time I go.
>>15377263
We have Tesla taxis here in Oregon, and I've even seen the sub teslas
>>15376805
A Camry or an Accord is a lot better than a little 1.1l Fiat diesel.
Fuck off euroturd.
>>15376019
Lol I saw more ford focuses in Europe than I did in the states. Their minivans were manual though so that was sorta interesting.
>>15381557
I'm sure the US price was also after tax.
>"For a correct comparison the NL price should read 1.32€/L and $5.57/gal."
>Let's assume we live in fairly tale world where no one pays for taxes
Why would a 'correct' comparison not take tax into account? As if it doesn't get charged or something?
>>15382313
>bigger engine = better
what
>>15382090
No one said anything about enthusiasts liking cars less or more, but the general public would much rather 'save the world' while driving a 1.0L shitbox than drive a proper car. In murica the 3.5L ecoboost is being praised/shilled, in Europe the 1.0 ecoboost was praised beyond reason. I don't know how to change that, as the EU leader said, it is not a democracy, not sure that would matter anyway.
While Europe is indeed not a single country yet, it is not as if the individual nations are allowed to decide anything significant anyway. There is Europol and they are trying to make a EU army, what more is needed for Europe to be referred to as a single place? Except for Britain of course :^)
I am European, pic related
>>15376019
>chances are he drives a Seat
fuck you my ibiza is cool
>>15376019
Yeah, you're just shitposting. You see nice cars all the time around here in South London. Yeah, there's shitboxes a plenty but you see the equivalent in the US. When I lived over in the US, you barely ever saw nice cars. Just the American equivalent of cheap hatchbacks.
>>15382313
Nope.
>>15383027
>South London
Represent
>>15376019
Yuropoor isn't just a meme
>>15383172
It is though
>>15382325
Because American sales taxes vary by state and the posted prices at gas stations in the US are ALWAYS without sales tax.
>>15383262
Do you think those numbers are related to gross income/disposable income?
>look guys Australians make 5x as much money as Americans!
>>15383305
pic related
>>15383262
>be German
>US have a lower mean wealth
>US have a higher mean debt
>US have a higher mean debt than their -own- mean wealth
He.
>>15383262
>being average
>>15383327
OP was arguing about averages
>>15383337
OP is a faggot and these threads always descend into arguing over averages. It's like you fags only aspire to be average
>>15383365
The very definition of bell distributions is that the majority of data points is settled near the average. It's impossible for the majority of people or even a lot of people to move away from the average because the average moves with them. Nevermind that we're in an anime figurine painting forum here, not the Wall Street cafeteria. Good for you if you can reasonably or unreasonably claim that you're above average on the internet, but the same isn't true for the majority of posters.
>>15383365
yes anon, you are special, remember your mommy told you so
>>15376179
>7 year old BMW
>good
That thing is worth 20% of its original price at this point Anon
>>15382362
It also has a comfier interior, more cargo space, and nicer features than most Euro shitboxes. I'm not really sure what your point is.
>>15383470
>camry
>comfy interior
>nice features
kek
>>15383470
>comfier interior
Wrong, same cheap shit as in our shitboxes, what else would you expect at such bargain bin prices?
>more cargo space
Wrong because it's sedan shaped, a shorter hatchback has the same cargo volume to the roof.
>nicer features
What car doesn't have climate control nowadays?
>>15383431
thanks mom <3
>>15383321
>be German
>want to modify my car
Mfw the wheels I want aren't tüv approved
>>15376019
The answer is simple OP
Fuel in Europe is 1,5€/L
Fuel in the US is 2$/gallon
1€=1,1$
1gallon=4L
>>15382313
great except we have cars like that too cars too and are very common
Only difference is the American Accord is worse
>American cars are so shit the euro Accord was rebranded and sold over there as a "premium car"
kek
