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While RWD cucks were busy getting their tribal tattoos, we were too busy getting 30+mpg.
Post FWD rides, let's start the bbw thread of /o/.
>>15193175
i average 35mpg
>>15193175
kys fool
>>15193191
fuck outta here wrong wheel drive fag
Will /o/ take the bait? Yes, always.
FWD a shit
a SHIT
>>15193222
>mfw it snows on ur mustang
>>15193197
>wrong wheel drive
ironic
I don't actually have any pics of my super shitty r50 mini.
I love that thing.
>tfw the hachi roku is actually a kyū ni
>you will never be fr
>instead of performance, fwdfags make fuel economy their focus
roflmao
>>15193277
Half a tank wasted and it still can't turn.
Just hang me
Fixed your shit, fampai
>>15193345
>go karts are better on a go cart track
I hate muscle cars too but learn about what track that was on.
>>15193391
Tsukuba was originally a motorcycle track, like most Jap tracks were like Ebisu.
>o idolizes touge
>tsukuba is one of the closest circuits to public street touge
>tsukuba laps don't count when ff wins though
>>15193414
>tsukuba is one of the closest circuits to public street touge
>he hasn't heard of Touge Course at Ebisu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydtf5hw_mew
>>15193414
How is tsubuka like touge? Its completely flat and all the corners are extremely generic and boring.
>>15193345
Now look at all the rwd times faster than the civic
>>15193398
Radical and zonda
Lol fwd btfo
>>15193414
Ff never wins
>>15194082
is it not past your bedtime corey?
God damn do I miss my ep3 si
>>15193175
Acceleration gives rear wheels more grip, front wheels are for braking you faget
>>15194121
Post your car with a timestamp.
Why do RWDfags ruin everything?
Defend your favorite RWD barge, the Ford Crown Victoria, against its strongest FWD competitors, the W-body Chevrolet Impala, and the LH Chrysler 300M.
The FWD cars are:
>faster
>better handling
>get better fuel economy
>just as comfy
>and the Impala at least has aftermarket support larger than that of the Crown Vic
And before you say they didn't compete, they were considered direct rivals by the big 3.
>>15193175
I live in a place where it snows for 5 months of the year, I drive an hour to work one way, and I like to autocross. I live in apartments so I can only have one car.
Growing up I never thought I'd become a civic fanboy, but I've been a huge fan of my Si since I got it. 390 miles on a single tank, fast enough to compete in parking lot autocross, and good enough in the snow to keep me out of the ditch.
I have to often remind myself that all the "FWD A SHIT!" guys on this board either live in Florida and drive V6 automatic Camaros, or are carless teenagers.
Pic not my Civic, I actually don't have many of mine. I should change that this summer.
>>15193372
Uhhh i have never been more confused in my life than i am now, got any more of this crx?
>>15194848
I live in northeast Ohio. I drive a miata. Fwd a shit.
>>15195201
this is 1 of the rwdfag types thats shit up everything
they drive horrible meme cars because theyre normies who want to be cool
another common one is the nocar who just shit posts
point and laugh folks
>FF Allegiance
Averaging 30mpgs on an E30 fuel blend.
tfw no ek9 with a k20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghGvgsbdvRI
>>15195201
>I drive a miata.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3MhS_TzPbA
There was a guy on /o/ like a week or 2 ago who was pissed when he realized the FWD is bad, RWD is good meme is just a meme. What happened? everyone in a Miata at his local autocross lost to a bone stock FWD Honda Prelude.
>>15195234
yeah Miatas arent good at all
the memes have fooled so many ignorant kids
the only car to disappoint me more was a 240SX
>>15194898
There's plenty of MR builds out there
>>15195234
>Ah come on, what did you do hit them over the head with it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmErRm-vApI
>>15195501
Drive a low weight fwd hatch if you're so worried about understeer
>>15195234
NA miatas are shit, but fwd isn't good.
It's a major disadvantage without BOP.
>>15195518
FWD isn't bad either. Especially nowhere near as bad as /o/ claims.
>>15195526
FWD is okay. Doesn't really matter unless you're making a decent power/weight ratio.
RWD is fun/good at all power levels.
>>15195514
that makes it worse as the back does not weigh much and the short wheel base adds to this also
more fun FF hatchback things
>under steering during a fish tail
>over steering too far the the front wheels to pull out of
>>15195501
>Doesn't know how to slide a fwd car
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEi3PLeEARs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTaWFr7zOSY
Its comfy and automatic and you can't stop me from having fun.
>>15195555
>check'd
Also, I love watching all those FWD HOT HATCHES at all those drift events :^)
Fwd is perfectly fine up to around 300bhp, Awd and Rwd cars of the same power didnt have any advantage over them in the BTCC at that level. Unless it rained, then Audi would rape everyone.
>>15195585
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVzsFJtE26w
>>15195569
>drift events
Go to a track one day and get smoked by prepped ff shitboxes then you'll sing a different song
>>15195569
You mean these?
>>15195590
May autocross was dominated by RWD. The AWD and FWD were just so slow.
http://www.azbrscca.org/autocross/results.html
>>15195526
On a track it's a pretty big time spread between the two unlimited classes.
But, on the street FWD is just as fun and a lot more stable, so it doesn't really matter.
>>15195595
I don't see anything fwd there, fuckboy.
>>15195598
>Arizona Border Region
Literally who
>>15195601
>On a track it's a pretty big time spread between the two unlimited classes.
no it isn't.
http://www.superstreetonline.com/eventcoverage/130_0511_timeattack/
>>15195555
feint or hand brake then throttle out when the angle is right
get good and not much steering lock is needed at all
power application with ff can only end a drift not keep it going
unless only one wheel is driven at a time by the differential
in winch case also needs slot of power
>>15195612
It's the Arizona Border Region.
>>15195609
>he doesn't know the Scion tC
>>15195624
Please stop baiting me, I can't keep responding
>>15195624
https://youtu.be/vSaw5kEjUJ4?t=13s
Fucking retards
>>15195624
>He doesn't know that the tC was modified to RWD specifically for Ken Gushi
>>15195628
>>15195631
>falling for obvious bait
>>15195613
BTFO!
>>15195736
Fuck yeah.
Passed the test.
http://youtu.be/ZzhOaSjhF0k
>nobody who argues drivetrains ever wants to prove they're a good driver or that they own a car
>>15193222
Kek
>>15195569
I know, poor rwd cars can't even compete.
>http://www.worldtimeattack.com/index.php/2015-results/
>fastest FWD time 1:29
>fastest AWD time 1:23
WTF I HATE FWD NOW!! I thought AWD being better was just a meme!!! I just spend 30k on a type R civic and it's fucking inferior!!!!! FUCK!!!!
>>15196298
>2005
fuccckkk, I can't believe FWD has been BTFO this hard in such a short timeframe! I can still sell me civic back, right bros? I got KEKED by superior drivetrains!
>>15193175
I don't mind FWD but I get 30+mpg average with my RWD car so fuck off
>>15196305
They're lying to you anon. It all depends on the driver.
get gud
>>15195613
>>15196330
cobalt a shit btw
>>15195555
>Ragnotti
Who else but that crazy motherfucker?
>>15193414
O is not one person.
Short wheelbase cars are favorable for small tight tracks.
>>15193345
It's funny that a stripped the fuck out shit box barely beats a two ton grocery getter
>>15196354
>civic type r
>stripped to fuck
>mfw the ss is supposed to be the performance model too
Embarassing
>>15196354
>this triggered GM fangirl
top kek
>>15196338
Stock turbo SS still faster than any modern 4cyl FWD
>>15196393
Nothing I said was wrong lol you nerd
>>15196354
>40K 4000 pound gm shitbox
>top of the line
You're funny bro . Post more plastic stripped shit boxes that are much better
>>15196406
good maymay
>>15196407
a civic ek9 has a full interior, you are a dumb faggot
>>15196407
Opinion disregarded
>>15196434
>>15196433
>stripped 2400 pound rattling shitbox
>has to be race tuned to barely beat a 2 ton american landbarge with full amenities
>>15196451
>N-NO IT D-DOESNT COUNT!!
stay triggered, cuck
>>15196451
>2 ton landbarge has a powerful as fuck engine
>barely beats a four cylinder employee self-transport
>>15196462
>can't into reading comprehension
Haha fukin weeb neets. Stay mad
>>15196480
tl;dr assmad the camaro is pigfat can't turn
>>15196500
>cobalt talk
>brings cumaro outta nowhere
sasuga, bronykun
>>15196470
Imagine this
>you race tune an already plastic japanese gaylord mobile
>2400 pounds, stripped, rattles® from factory, free pussy repellent
>half a second later, a pigfat american car weighing twice as much with twice as many options and modern amenities comes out with 3 girls in the car, ends with a burnout and heads back to chads pool party
>ek9 happy about that half second lead in his shitbox
>returns home to fap to trap/cuck porn while listening to eurobeat
>"heh... nothing personal kiddo"
>>15196451
Unfortunately you're wrong again. That Japanese shitbox has infinitely better build quality than some GM piece of garbage.
>>15196510
>cobalt talk
>bronykun
>camaro out of nowhere
wat
i replied to 2 posts, the first one being a dumbass that thinks the cobalt is the fastest FWD, which clearly is not and the second one, a cuck who can't deal the civic is faster around tsukuba
and im not a disgusting horsefucker
>>15196524
lmao this cuck is triggered har as fuck, he even reeks of /r9k/ faggotry
>>15196524
Now, let's go back to reality
>Lower class amerifat worker saves up for a camaro for years
>finally leases one
>has no time for anything but work, church, and oil changes on the weekends - as always
>girls don't think that's cool
>doesn't matter because he has an ugly wife already
>should have bought a truck because that would have been useful and ego boosting at the same time
>White collar kid strolls out the door and lays down pure cash for a japanese commuter car
>his high paying job gives him ample leisure time so he un-gimps it with a few aftermarket parts
>goes faster than camaro loser
>goes and picks up chicks with his superior economic status
>fucks on the first date
>some old fart in retirement cruises past in another camaro, sees ricer kid pulling pussy
>gets bitter
>starts crying about how ladies admire muh real american heritage and muh genuine american muscle
>>15195598
Stephen King autocrosses a 90 Miata. Whoda thunk it.
Daily reminder that 2WD rally is dominated by FWD due to it's superior grip and handling characteristics on loose surfaces
>30+ mpg
>tfw RWD LS1 V8 gets 20-26 mpg.
op's a fucking faggot
my fwd gets 45-50
>muh performance racing FWD car
>LOL BUT MUH MPGS
why would you even care about MPGs when you're driving fast.
>>15197028
>grip and handling
>not just traction
>>15197040
>highway mpg
>>15196606
your's wasn't as catchy as his, sorry m8
>>15194761
That's GMT
>>15197094
>AWD master race
>>15197067
highway in a LS Corvette is 30 MPG, poorfag.
i get 17 in the city in a 325hp V8
>>15197051
>he thinks power oversteering through a whole corner is faster than decelerating with a bit of oversteer to set up a straight exit line
>he thinks having less weight over the front wheels gives good handling characteristics on a loose surface
>he doesn't know how to steer with his left foot
>>15196606
>not having a camaro/firebird and a civic
>not having the best of both worlds
>>15196524
>2400lbs
>stripped
mine is less than that stock.
>rattles
its called not having a fart can and it wont rattle
>>15197104
highway mpg is irrelevant, if you dont quote mixed mpg you are a faglord
>>15197113
>>he thinks power oversteering through a whole corner is faster than decelerating with a bit of oversteer to set up a straight exit line
fucking boring as shit. I'd rather watch a porsche or an RX7 drift every corner
The only reason they have to slow down like that is because there shitty FWD layout will understeer, and they can't power oversteer
its worse.
>>15197151
>With an automatic transmission, the Corvette achieves 15/25 mpg (city/highway); the manual-transmission model gets 16/26 mpg
that's in a gas-guzzling 6.0l LS2. 400 hp 400 ft-lb monster
>muh mpgs
the reason your corvette gets good MPGs is so you can go on a nice trip and not have to stop every 5 minutes for fuel. it's not because you care about how much gas cost.
>>15195565
Lmao
I've been stopped from having fun.
You put an excellent trans behind the jseries, honda.
>gains 50 HP with a few simple mods
>>15194848
Ohio. Turboed BRZ. Drive it on snow tires in winter. What's your reason fuccboi.
>>15197169
If by worse you mean statistically and scientifically faster, then you're absolutely right.
Also, FWD rally cars are more than capable of pulling slides. The difference is they're carrying their speed through the corner while doing it, using it to overcome the disadvantage of power understeer by oversteering their cars INTO the corner with trailbraking or letting off the throttle and then having a straight line out of the corner to accelerate with.
FWD is better than RWD for rally. Deal with it.
>>15197982
>FWD is better than RWD for rally. Deal with it.
THIS!
Meet the 2004 Rally America 2WD champion
>>15197918
I don't have a faux-hawk or white Oakley sunglasses.
>>15194821
BUT MUH DURIFTUUUUUU
>>15197028
>implying anyone gives a shit about 2wd rallying
>>15198529
Brah you're pretty clueless aren't you?
>>15194821
>shitbox mac strut unibody heap
>body on frame solid-rear axle longitudinal V8 RWD
yeah nah
>>15198529
>"LMAO RWD IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN RWD FOR RALLY"
>*gets proven wrong*
>"LMAO NO ONE EVEN CARES ABOUT 2WD RALLYING :'DD
>>15193175
>30+ MPG
Lol I own 3 RWD cars (2 bmws, 1 merc) and they all get 40-55 mpgs
>>15193175
A German auto reviewer raised a good point. If you're from the US you will despise FWD cars because straight away you think of big heavy slow shitbox chrysler sedans.
In the civilised world we have an array of hot hatches and coupes that are plenty of fun as a FWD.
>>15193175
/o/ tells me no, but my body tells me yes.
God I love these posts
>>15196451
I DD'd my Type R for 4 years, it was perfectly acceptable to daily. Stay triggered
>>15199070
If they're not hybrids, this is just a lie.
>>15195565
F er Rd?
>>15199047
>caring about semantics
>>15198412
And? That's not much of an argument.
>>15199047
>Live Rear Axle vs Independent Rear Suspension
pick one faggot.
>>15198001
I should get an SRT-4.
They are ugly as shit, shit fuel economy, they are a fucking neon, but dat engine and the capability of buying a piece of shit and throwing it around at tracks and shit is super appealing since other FWD and RWD are hard to find or expensive in my shithole.
>>15201136
>shit fuel economy
If you're keeping it in boost and ragging the fuck out of it sure, that's just like any other turbo car prior to direct injection
>>15201187
I hear even under boost the avg is in the low 20s
>>15201195
I read car and driver when it first came out they say they got pretty shitty mileage, around 18mpg, but they contributed this to them ringing it out and joining a bit in it
>>15201207
*Hooning
>>15201195
>>15201207
Shit I meant, without boost. From user reports and a friend who had one.
>>15201224
Mid 20s average isn't bad for a turbo car, as long as highway is around 30, which it is
>>15199120
Looks like an electric shaver on wheels. Nice rice wing.
>>15201224
Also take into account that it's a 2.4 turbo as opposed to the usual 1.6-2.0 engines that are turboed currently, and the fact that the tune from the factory is probably rich so it protects the engine at higher rpms
>>15201227
Well, I just saw the prices in the local listings and I guess I won't even bother desu. Overpriced as hell and that's not even counting the guys who fucked it up with shitty tunes and are selling it for 10k.
I need to find an acceptable sporty fwd that's not overpriced. SIs are overpriced or tuned to shit, GTIs are overpriced, and that's basically it, we have zero car culture it seems, pls kill me.
>>15193175
>30+mpg
>people who can actually afford a decent RWD most likely give zero fucks about MPG's
>>15201238
>I need to find an acceptable sporty fwd that's not overpriced.
>>15201238
Where are you?
>>15201240
To each their own, but I guess you have to mock them because you're an insecure little faggot
>>15201245
Heh, we didn't get those in here, sadly.
>>15201246
[spoiler]Mexico[/spoiler]
There are GTIs (overpriced here, most with an auto), Renaults (not bad), SEATs, (desu these are nice, but I haven't spotted a clean Cupra R yet), Minis (overpriced and autos), Mazdaspeeds (haven't seen one for sale), SIs, STs and the previous RS (there's like 3 in the whole country though, haven't seen one for sale).
I forgot what else we have.
Anyway, it's not a good place for second hand sporty fwds.
I could obviously import a super fine and clean type r, since we have lax import laws, but then it loses the appeal of being a cheap grocery getter that will get tuned over time.
>>15201276
Wait, didn't Mexico get a bunch of turbo R/T mopars(Dodge) that the US didn't get? Like Avenger R/T, Stratus R/T and the like? They had the same engine as the SRT-4 if I recall
>>15201276
Buy one in Freedomland and import it. I can't imagine the import process of bringing cars into Mexico is all that hard.
>>15201285
yes they did. Try one of those
>>15200453
2 of them are diesels
and one of them has a 2.5l petrol engine that gets 40-45 mpg on highways
>>15201301
>inb4 he uses Imperial gallons
Yes. there's a difference
Examples:
2004, so it's a bit more desirable because of the revised engine which puts 20 extra hp. Going for what is the equivalent to 5.3k usd, sadly with shitty rice.
http://soloautos.mx/usados/auto/seat-leon-2004-rojo/772907
2003, so I'd have to check engine code to see if it's the revised or the first gen engine, no rice which is nice, 5.2k usd.
http://soloautos.mx/usados/auto/seat-leon-2003-rojo/946726
Then a second gen (Golf MkV base) special edition:
http://soloautos.mx/usados/auto/seat-leon-2009-naranja/980520
That's basically 13k.
>>15201285
Ah, we got a ton of those, I'm not very fond of them though (long wheelbase, heavy, sluggish), and most are banged to hell.
>>15201297
It's not that hard, but the effort is not worth it unless you live near the border or it's a car you absolutely adore.
>>15201335
But I bet you could get them on the cheap, and I know Mexico's city roads are similar to ours and your highways are long stretches like ours so a long wheelbase is a good thing, I bet you could find one that isn't ragged to shit for cheap and make a project out of it, unless you're looking for a daily
>>15201354
The idea is to have it be a daily, which I guess means nothing as long as the car is nice, I'd prefer a hatch though.
Also, although our highways are also long (but not as wide or nice), most of our driving is done inside the city. Even "suburbs" are barely out of the city outer ring. Inner city max speed is usually 35 mph and at the higher speed streets it's 50, while highway is 70-80.
My daily cruise is something like 15 min at 50, and 15 at 35. I take the highway about once or twice a month at most to give you an example.
Came across another option which is popular here, dunno if you guys got these over there, the Renaults Renault Sport (RS) versions:
Megane (222hp or so):
http://soloautos.mx/usados/auto/renault-mgane-2005-plata/1053645
Clio, although it's not the cool "II" one, this one has 160ish instead of 180 that it latter got:
http://soloautos.mx/usados/auto/renault-clio-2004-negro/704761
>>15201253
>mock them
Nah, just pointing out the truth. A simple reminder that people who brag about MPG's are probably living paycheck-to-paycheck.
>>15201413
This is a perfect example of the nouveau-riche and why fools and their money are soon parted, Warren Buffet lives in the same house in Nebraska he bought for around ~50,000, but you wouldn't know shit about that because you're a dumbass teenager
>>15201276
the answer is
>Fiesta ST
>>15201406
From the photo it looks like the Clio is haunted, OP I would get the Megane
>>15201420
Lol. Yes... Not being autistic about MPG's is a clear indication of financial irresponsibility in all areas of life. You've got me profiled to a T!
>>15201448
Pretty much, god knows whatever other horrible financial decisions you and your generation make, dumb fucking millenials
>>15201454
So much rage! Where does it come from?
>>15201469
>posting tumblr gifs
Jesus, have some fucking pride
>>15201478
>can't think of anything
>uhhh, tumblr... something something, reddit...
>got him good
>>15201427
Recent ST generation is 17.7k usd new, and used 13k but they fly.
There are more Focus STs, counting the previous gen.
But now that you mentioned STs, I looked for SVTs and there's two. Old but it's like 3k bucks so it could make for a nice cheap project.
http://soloautos.mx/usados/auto/1045740
>>15201433
Yeah, plus it's the not-fun gen.
>>15201406
>dunno if you guys got these over there
The last time any Renault was sold in America was in 1987.
>>15201498
I would have said that it's a shame since they tend to be fun, but the recent gen is weird and hasn't had that much acceptance over here other than that new fwd compact SUV (Duster).
>>15201520
>tfw want a Stratus R/T
I know I can make one but it isn't the same.
>>15201563
Are Chrysler/Dodge fwd tarbo models actually desirable?
I mean, we do have Spirit, Shadow, Stratus, Avenger, Neon, Caliber, R/Ts.
But what's the appeal? I've never seen a well done R/T based project, so my imagination is limited in that area.
Also I guess our scene is growing after all, we recently got new race series, Super V8s and V6s. But back in the day we only had stock cars (basically jettas, mondeos, shadows), and a copy of NASCAR.
BTCC was FWD and produced so many exciting and legendary races.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiabehnuzTs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpL_72hx3Js
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD1yOqNTpGo
>>15201599
Wait, I thought BTCC still was fwd.
>wikipedia
>NGTC
>what is this shit
>Front or Rear Wheel Drive.[6] Originally TOCA announced that only front wheel drive cars would be eligible to take part. However, after high interest from teams running rear wheel drive cars, TOCA amended the spec to include both front and rear wheel drive cars.
And as expected:
>The target price for a complete car, less engine is around £100,000 depending on final components used by each team and the running cost. The cost for a TOCA-BTCC Engine will be £25,000 with the option to be leased. However the target price is a lot higher than expected - it was reported that the car, less engine is around £200,000.
Why is it happening with every series?
They all promote new rules and regulations to "ensure" performance to be close, and keep costs low, from Rally to Touring Cars, to F1.
And every single one went over planned budget and is not really delivering (besides WRC I guess which is faster).
>>15201593
They're desirable to us Yanks because we didn't get the turbo Stratus or Avenger, the others are desirable because they're basically sleepers because most don't know about the potential of the engines and how much power they can put out
>>15194821
>defending the fuckin impala
>>15201599
>98
everyone knows 97 season is the best
>>15201652
THIS!
Sleepers are always desirable. I mean look at this fucker. 95% of people will look at it and just see an early 90's Shadow shitbox, not a turbocharged rocket.
>>15201700
>not wanting a bulletproof 3800 sleeper
FWD
>economy car for poorfags
AWD
>boy racers
>RWD
Enthusiast car of choice
>>15201715
>Enthusiast car of choice
>Crown Victoria
>>15201715
spotted the nocar
>>15201715
I prefer RWD as well but enthusiasts drive whatever the fuck they like
I`d love to drive a high powered AWD vehicle too
>>15193222
>fwd
>hit throttle in a corner
>leading edge of the car plows straight into the nearest wall
>rwd
>hit throttle mid corner
>dorifto
>>15201723
I'd rock one but I can afford real enthusiast cars like Mustangs.
>>15201736
>real enthusiast cars like Mustangs
>still slower than a FWD V6 family sedan
>from the same company
>>15193398
16 year difference in tech and engineering lol, torque steer into a tree and die
>>15201734
shut the fuck up.
>rwd
>hit the gas in the corner
>still susceptible to understeer because physics
>over steer and spin out
>driving an untuned, stock suspension fwd through a "corner"
fwd a fun
awd a fun
rwd a fun
there are fun cars in all platforms now heck off all of you who can't understand that
>>15201761
its nocars and shitposters
its best to just point and laugh
>>15201652
>>15201712
I see, never thought about it. I guess I'll lurk forums or something and try to find nice projects given how the potential is there and they are cheap.
Btw, maybe it's the ricer in me but damn, a boxy shadow with enkei's and that cheeky peeking radiator looks nice.
I'd hide the gauges lower though.
>>15201715
Eh, cars can be fun regardless of config. It's just a matter of learning how to get the most out of them.
>>15201774
>cheeky peeking radiator
That's an intercooler. to cool down the air after it goes through the turbo.
colder air = more power.
>>15201786
>That's an intercooler
Right, my bad, my mind just didn't compute a large intercooler in a shadow.
>>15201774
The potential of turbocharged Chryslers is well documented.
check out this forum. Lots of knowledgable people and insane builds. One madman there even built a Dodge Caravan turbo into a 12.3 second monster.
pic related. The only hint to it being anything special are the Mickey Thompson drag slicks on the front.
>>15201812
forgot forum link
http://www.turbododge.com/
>>15201812
>>15201816
Cool, I'll check it out.
And damn, an ex's dad had one of those Spirit R/T, it was pretty cool but I never saw him working it.
>>15201615
NGTC is a massive improvement over the S2000 cars they replaced. It has produced close racing and grids of 30+ cars instead of 12-15.
>>15194821
i really really miss my dodge intrepid. wish i kept it to fix it up. RIP
>>15201887
I understood from the article the NGTC was based on S2000s? But I guess the S2000 idea was scrapped for many series.
>>15201900
What year was it? I had a '99 Concorde with the 3.2 and miss it dearly
>>15201906
NGTCs are completely different and is really only used in the BTCC. They are almost silhouette cars, with the front and rear ends being replaced with a spec subframe, this is how they ended up with RWD Audi A4s.
S2000 cars continued on in WTCC but I think they've been replaced by something else now, nobody gives a shit about WTCC anyway.
>>15193175
>remember that one time when e46 manual 330s got 32mpg
Get bent econoshit
Since this is a fwd dodge thread now
3k for a 00s R/T AT Stratus sounds alright? Is that gen worth it?
What do you guys think of the Caliber SRT-4?
>>15202851
If you're looking at a Stratus RT coupe, forget it you might as well get a 3G Eclipse because they're the same car and the Eclipse looks better
Caliber SRT4 is a monster, I'd get one if i was in the market
>>15202851
I would be wary of automatic Stratus RT's. FWD automatics in high performance cars don't have the best reputation. If the Stratus RT is one of the American market RT V6 coupes, avoid. It's just a Mitsubishi Eclipse V6 with different styling.
The Caliber is a great car with shit build quality. They're great lookers though. If you can find a wrecked Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X, you can convert the Caliber to AWD. Everything from the Evo just bolts right on. They share the same platform and wheelbase so everything lines up.
Also, I loved the Caliber's advertising campaign. pic related made me laugh.
>>15193414
Tsukuba is not like touge, but people like it for hot version.
>>15197193
>Not have to stop every 5 minutes for fuel.
>I don't care how much gas cost.
It's not about the money but it's actually for practicality, good mixed mpgs can let you commute and around for a week or so without having to fill your tank, you're the only one talking about
>muh poverty
and
>I can drive landyatchs because I'm not poor
while browsing a board where mostly everyone are midclass faggots just like you.
>>15202878
BTW, the Mexican market Stratus RT is an entirely different animal. They came with the same 2.4L turbo as the Dodge Neon SRT4 and were sedan only. The second gen Stratus sedan was made by Chrysler with no input by Mitsubishi, but the coupe was an unrelated car made by Mitsubishi. It only shared the Stratus name with the sedan.
>>15201276
>lax import laws
Can't you import Japanese shitboxes like the united States but you just have to wait like 10 years instead of 30?
I forgot how it works there.
>>15202951
I think there was a revision in 2013, I've seen some more recent models pop up but people that import ask for dumb money.
Like 15k for a salvage title S2000 with bolt ons and kit.
I'm not sure either myself, but as soon as I get some spare money for it I'll be looking at importing some nice things.
>>15202971
Mexifag here, you can actually import cars directly from Japan now? I've read it somewhere and some Jap dealer pages now include Manzanillo as a port for delivery.
>>15203007
Have you checked your federal laws? Start there before buying one and trying to get it registered only for them to take it away
FF kids get wrecked every thread and never learn.
It's pretty astounding.
I'd probably do the same if I bought a fwd car and was stuck with it before I knew that they sucked.
>>15203037
>projecting
>>15203039
You obviously don't know what that word means.
>>15203043
Kek, it's obvious you don't you clueless idiot
>>15201231
Thanks! You should post your car with bread.
>>15195624
>>15195595
Only reason why they allowed it in FD is because the chassis has a AWD variant in Europoorland. They won't let FWD based cars that are converted to RWD compete unless there is a AWD variant of the car.
>>15193175
>mpg
I'm from Europe and even I think your kind need to die. Mpg is a bonus, it doesn't make a good car.
>>15201312
>MPG
>MILES per GALLON
>Imperial unit per Imperial unit
Is it that hard for you?
>>15203795
There are two types of gallons in common parlance.
>>15203553
>he has one car
never understood this.
>>15203037
>t. Man-with-no-driving-skills
>>15194848
how are you getting 390 per tank? I get 300 and that's when I keep my foot out of it. I am running on the slightly rich side, but not enough to make a 90 mile difference. Also, I was getting 300 before I had any mods
OP's pic makes my miss my RSX...
Sold her for an STi in 2007 though and haven't gone FWD since lol. I do not miss all of that torquesteer, though an LSD would've helped significantly.
>>15205299
How many times does it have to be said that LSD does NOT improve torque steer? It actually makes it worse.
Torque steer mainly depends on steering geometry, what LSD does is give you more traction under acceleration, so you could actually give an FWD car power oversteer if you tune it like so.
>>15195501
Oh yeah, tell me all about how RWD doesn't understeer ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az_Vlgy5dbM
Anyone here has had a Focus SVT?
The thread made me interested in one, but then I read everywhere that you need to check the belt and belt tensioner immediately and now I'm not sure I want one because if the asking price is what the sticky suggests it would bump the price up afterwards with all the work it'd need to get done immediately after purchase.
>>15207045
At least now I know how side airbags look in M3s.
>>15203795
European gallons are actually larger than American gallons. It's part of why their cars achieve "better fuel economy"
Pro tip: They don't.
>>15201752
>rwd will understeer when you apply throttle "because physics"
classical case of "my logic is better than yours"
>>15208673
surely you meant "british gallons" right dumbass?
>>15207102
/o/ will generally suggest you look at one of the later 2.0L or 2.3L Duratec engined cars. Timing chain so you don't need to worry about it, and a MUCH more massive aftermarket. The SVT cars are a lot of fun to drive but ll that really makes them special is the suspension setup and the rear disc brake, both of which will bolt right onto the Duratec cars.
>>15208726
No because the same gallon the Brits use is used throughout Europe. The American gallon is just that. An American gallon.
>>15210615
>I want the RS mk2
>not sure if buy now before mk3 is released where I live
>or buy later when mk3 is released
I have no idea if it's gonna bump the price up or down, maybe there will be a sweetspot while current RS owners ditch theirs in favour of the new one.
1996 integra sedan that has been ls-vtec'd
3900, get it for 3000 maybe?
thoughts? This or ae92
