What does /o/ think of GTO's?
Anyone here own one?
Im thinking about taking out a loan and getting one.
>>14702162
>>14702162
My buddys got a nice mazdaspeed 6. And im done going slow in my powerstroke. And want a fast luxury car to beat his ass in :^)
Essentially a Holden Commodore I think, if you can ask the australians they can tell you all about the chassis for sure, I'm not 100% on whether they had the same engine options we did though.
>>14702202
We got ls1 ls2 and a supercharged 3800
>>14702221
USA got the LS1 in the flat-hood 04s, LS2 in the bulgey hood 05-06.
>>14702202
100% its a VT2-VX2 Modified.
which is a modified
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opel_Omega#Omega_B2_.281999.E2.80.932003.29
with a LS1/LS2
Not the best handling car but it rides very smooth, corners good.
Upsides
>Powerful ls obviously
>great auto gearbox
>euro exec chassis modded by aussies with a based yank engine
>cheap
>fucking fast for a big heavy gt car 5seconds or less to 55 stock
Downsides
>heavy its 3800lb and it feels it
I recommend the four door version but if you can afford the coupe do it
my car
>>14702241
> recommending a fucking commodore over a monaro
Falcunt you get more retarded every time you post
>>14702248
Well they are like 30-40k usd in America
a 08 VY costs like 16k depends on ops budget and shit
Please kill yourself jimmystrings stay in your containment board
>>14702255
They are about 15k in America you fat stupid cunt
They can't even buy commodore so it's irrelevant? Fuck coff
>>14702258
waaaa did i hit a nerve?
Yankfags asked for a aussies opinion and infomation and they got it
Please fuck yourself
Hey I work for Ford, but since I can't get a falcon here. Without importing a classic over, yet my love for australian cars, I'm looking at them too.
My friend had the last year they made them, until he traded it for a street bike and a smoker dirt bike. It was a nice car, no trunk space though. Weird.
Monitoring this thread.
I think the most recent gto is an awesome idea...on paper
It looks pretty Shitty in person, it seriously looks like a fatter sunfire
But it's rwd and a v8 so that's pretty sweet
>>14702260
When in op does it say anything about australia?
Kill yourself you fat fuck virgin useless drain on society
> he thinks Americans pay 40k for a gto
lol
>>14702261
better bail anon some troll is out of his containment board
Stay away from AU-BF Falcons years 1998-2007
Go import a FG or XB and be the koolest cunt on the block mate.
There was a X series ute on gumtree for 2.5k with a big turbo here looked sick
>>14702267
>PAY ATTENTION TO ME
shhh
>>14702266
Have you actually driven one?
>>14702270
Americans can't import anything newer than 25 years
Just kill yourself so no one here has to read your retarded shit anymore
>>14702272
Holy fuck do you realize they can import the early pre 91 E series right back to the x series right?
PLEASE GO FUCK YOURSELF AND SHUT THE EVERLOVING FUCK UP
i dont know who you are jimmyshit or not your a goddamn whinging retard who adds nothing but shit to threads
>WAAA WAA YOUR WRONG AND FORGOT ABOUT SOME STUPID IMPORT LAW WA WA WAAAAAAA
And?
Do you want a fucking medal?
>>14702267
Because it's an Australian car
>>14702283
You said import an fg
> this mad bevause you're fucking wrong about everything as usual
Go crash your piece of shit boat in a McDonald's drive through again you fat virgin fuck
>>14702284
Shh you'll ruin his narrative
>>14702293
Well they can in 12 years and by then they will still be around
Also Canadians and Kiwis and Poms might be interested in this too please fuck off
>>14702297
You are a stupid fat fuck and don't know anything. Kill yourself :^)
Why did I invite the Australians
>>14702304
someones getting shrekt
>>14702309
dont worry this troll has been following me around for years.
>>14702311
> every Australian poster on this board hates you
>"no its just one person!"
Tell me again how you crashed in McDonald's drive through
Btw Jimmy is a 100x cooler person than you can ever hope to be :)
>>14702258
>They can't even buy commodore so it's irrelevant? Fuck coff
??
>>14702317
Then why is jimmy hated in every one of the ausfag threads?
PLEASE shut the fuck up
>>14702323
see the shit i have to put up with?
Also stay away from these
>>14702326
Jimmy is king of sa meets
You are king of getting shat on, fat virgin neet fuck
Sorry Yanks normies ruined this thread too.
Was fun while it lasted
>>14702333
As opposed to a skinny KFC sucking Astra burning furfag /d/ wunnabe trap
I tried to keep this shit in the containment board but you keep following me around like some sort of rabid stalker
>>14702340
Sorry faggot I was just calling you out on your retarded bullshit
Don't get so upset you're a dumb fuck
>>14702348
>I WAS ONLY PRETENDING TO LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT
Thanks for ruining the thread austard
>>14702162
>What does /o/ think of GTO's?
Well since this went straight to ausfagging, I'll tell you what I know.
Decent interior, LS1/LS2 is gud. 4L60 is mediocre, manual would be better. LSD's kinda shit themselves, but maybe that's just people using the wrong diff fluid without whatever weird friction modifier. They kill rubber strut mount bushings like the G8's. They're a bit heavy and a bit bland, but it's one of the best horsepower per dollar bargains out there right now. I'd absolutely consider buying one if I didn't already have a comfy rwd V8.
>>14702354
Tell me more about those 40k gtos in America
>>14702355
never heard about the lsd's shitting themselves must be a yank thing or cold weather? Not sure.
The rest of what you talked about is true.
Gearbox is unkillable but a little slushy, much better with a tune
Engine is godly, do you guys mafless tune ls1/ls2s in the states or?
Front suspension will shit itself over time but as you said its only bushes which is very common for older heavier cars.
Rear end in mine is tight as fuck only needed new shocks BUT on the downside the VT-VY do have a fuck load of inside camber wear on the rear tyres especially if you lower it or get a grippy/wide tyre.
Fronts have the opposite problem with outside camber where even at stock/sports ride height the car goes up on its toes and squats at the back under heavy cornering and acceleration
I dont agree that they are 'bland' cars maybe for you yanks but with some tasteful basic modifications they are fun.
have a yanktank
>>14702162
I had an '04 gto that lasted me almost a year.
>hydraulic clutch is a bitch
>started spraying brake fluid in the tranny and had to replace slave.
>in Canada and can't find gto slave cylinder connectors and have to jimmy a z28 slave into it.
It's just like a skyline or supra part expense wise because of the scarcity.
The 350 hp ls1 is my favorite motor now. Dat rwd too.
>>14702376
Literally never had these problems here in aus.
Cant you import from the states? We do its cheap as fuck.
Autos seem to be more reliable in these than the manual tranny so ive heard
>>14702355
g8 my nigga
>>14702382
g8/8
>>14702326
>Also stay away from these
'Murica never got those so no worries. America hasn't gotten any Falcon or Falcon variant since, I think, the 1960's.
we got the Opel Omega as the Cadillac Catera from 1997-2002.
The Holden Monaro as the Pontiac GTO from 2004-2006.
The Holden Commodore as the 2008-2009 Pontiac G8, and 2014-2016 Chevrolet SS
And the Holden Caprice as the 2011-present Chevrolet Caprice PPV, specifically for police use.
>>14702381
Why cock black the ls motor with an auto. The t56 is arguably the best transmission for the ear in muscle.
Fucken whipped through the snow here in Manitoba. Do you know what snow drifting feels like? Shit that sucks.
>>14702390
No wonder Pontiac shit the bed.
>>14702375
>never heard about the lsd's shitting themselves must be a yank thing or cold weather? Not sure.
Maybe I'm crossing over from first gen CTSV's or something. Or it could be that people changed their diff fluid for new stuff that needed additives like a friction modifier for the LSD to work. All the G8 people recommend getting the GM spec'd diff fluid.
4L60 is killable once you start adding some power. I assume 4L80 swaps are common though, and they should hold up. Or just buy a manual.
Typically 400hp coupes at low prices in the US are a lot more aggressive looking than the Monaros/GTOs were. I'm down with the understated look, but a lot of dipshits will call them ugly.
>>14702382
>>14702386
m8s
>>14702392
Bullshit a 4l60e doesnt cock block the ls at all
Tuned my stock engine and trans make 300rwhp
>>14702397
I blame GM brass for killing the second generation Fiero project to protect the Corvette.
>>14702407
So wait they killed the mid engine corvette to make another one 30 years later?
Fuck sake GM
Have fun not being stealthy driving 50 km in 6th then fucking rippin er into 3rd
>>14702162
Call it a monaro like it's supposed to be called.
>>14702416
>mfw 2000-5000rpm powerband and sound
>>14702407
I'll live and die by the bow tie, but it's hard to see them skip the camaro letting mustangs have a by.
>>14702412
The Fiero hit production from 1984-1988 as a sports car, but was sold to GM brass as a "2 seater economy car that just happened to be fun to drive".
It launched with a ~90 HP 2.5L pushrod I4. A 130 HP 2.8L pushrod V6 was added in 1985.
Every year added new features and refinements. Every year the car got better.
The second generation was going to get the 180 HP 2.3L Quad 4 engine as the 4 cylinder option, and the 210 HP (possibly 280 HP) 3.4L DOHC V6 (believe it or not, the DOHC V6 was actually heavily based on the original Fiero's 2.8L V6) as the performance option.
The V6 prototypes were killing the Corvettes on GM's own test track.
>>14702420
>thinking i didnt cam a v8 and with no exhaust.
>>14702423
:((((((((((((((((((((
Fuck that sucks
>>14702425
>mfw a basic cam kit costs 3000aud+ here in aus
>mfw i have 0 in the bank account
:(
>>14702427
The Fiero still enjoys a HUGE fanbase though. There were more Fiero's built and sold in that short production run than all Toyota MR2's combined from 1984 to 2005. About 380,000 Fieros.
For 1986, they added the ever popular fastback body style.
>>14702436
Same thing here with the Dunnydoor
Even though the Falcon is more quintessially 'aussie' than the commadores and has a aussie engine and drivechain and everything else apart from the 2008-2015 FG XR6 Turbo and the Barra Boss v8 they are horrible turds BUT they do look good.
Commonwhores sold more here and have a bigger and better aftermarket and CHEAP at least 1/2 the price of a average XR6 Turbo
>>14702326
>>14702333
>Then why is jimmy hated in every one of the ausfag threads?
>Jimmy is king of sa meets
Spoiler alert. No one in /dat/ cares about either of you.
>>14702445
>Falcon is more quintessially 'aussie' than the commadores
Yeah a car that was also realised in America back in the 60s in more Australian than a commodore, or as you call is commadore.
>>14702445
And Fieros have the WORLD'S best fanbase.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg4s4CEUliA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn6DLpe8xNE
Grab some tissues. You're gonna need them.
>>14702455
The American falcons couldn't hold up to Australian conditions at all. We made it our own in the mid 60s, very different to the American models.
>>14702462
Not really.
>>14702162
eurofag here, found one for sale in switzerland. ls1, from 2004.
should i go for it? what's the parts availability?
and how expensive would be to import the monaro front bumper?
>>14702465
Yes really. The American falcons were dog shit on Australian roads and sales reflected that. Do research.
>>14702465
Yeah really
>>14702471
Got a link to the ad?
Parts are as cheap as the postage fees from us/au to eu brah
>>14702479
shh your ruining his narrative
>>14702459
and more proof of the Fiero's superior fanbase.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vZpNQUIqIg
do americans put holden badges on their GTOs like aus people do with chevy badges on SS commodore?
>>14702708
No, they just save pictures and fail saving up for the ute conversion that a few custom shops do
>>14702733
>ute conversion
This is a thing?
I expect aussies to ruin a perfectly good vehicle because they're dumb cunts like that. I did not know people in the US were in to making worthless pick up cars.
>>14702708
I have a picture of an american putting FPV badges on his crown victoria
>>14702900
>>14702258
We have had 3 versions of the Commodore in the US. The Pontiac G8 which is no longer sold. The Chevrolet Caprice PPV which was officially only sold to Police and the Chevrolet SS sedan which is still being sold.
>>14702266
>it seriously looks like a fatter sunfire
My dad thought it was a special edition of the Sunfire until I told him otherwise.
>>14702708
Yes, I have seen it.
>>14702162
That generation of GTO? They look alright.
>gibe ls1 so I can swap into my miats pl0x huehuehue
Literally what I'll do the moment I see one for cheap. Missed my chance to buy a totaled one for $800. Not going to miss out a second time.
>>14702162
thats a holden commodore cunt
>>14702261
u can buy a ford barra for $2.5k usd
>>14703012
No its not, its a cv8 Monaro ya spanner.
>>14702381
they have way worse weather thats why their shit breaks
>>14703019
It's actually an HSV GTO numbnuts.
I have one OP.
I will say parts are a bit harder to find compared to a Camaro or Corvette. It may be slightly heavy, but the interior is much better than anything else GM had at the time.
I have a 4L60, I'd stay away from it if you want to build it because it's the weakest link by far. 2005/6 Got the 4L65 which is much stronger.
The diff is fine, I've never had any problems with it.
The looks are fine to me, I prefer my cars understated.
If you have any questions I'm glad to help. I love my car.
>>14703026
are you a retard?
America never got the GTO numb nuts only the brits did, they actually got more GTO's than they did Monaros.
>>14703033
No, I'm not retarded. The HSV GTO was literally based of the later 6.0 Pontiac GTO spec (ala OP's pic), numbnuts.
>>14703048
And actually, the earlier 5.7 LS1 such as your very pic here >>14703033 had more in common with Pontiac's job than the Holden badged CV8.
>>14703048
What lol?
The Pontiac GTO did not come out until 2005, the CV8 Monaro was in production back in 2002, in 2004 they released the VY HSV GTO (the one in that picture) and then in 2005 they released the 6 litre version (VZ the one with a 6 litre), the same year the new 6 litre Monaro was being sold as a GTO in America.
They made thousands of Monaros, they made less than 500 GTO's of each type.
Stop being a spanner.
>>14703076
Your whole post does absolutely nothing to support your claim.
Both the Pontiac and HSV Coupe versions of the GTO came out in 2004, with the same drivetrain options (both 260kW/350hp). Then in 2005 with the release of the 6.0 LS2, both the Pontiac and HSV Coupe versions of the GTO upgraded to the 297kW/400hp drivetrain.
The CV8 was a sub-par cookie cutter variant, regardless of arbitrary release numbers numbnuts.
>>14703089
Not him, but isn't the Pontiac GTO closer to the CV8? It has the 6.0l but I don't think it got any of the other upgrades the HSV did
>>14703033
>only the Brits did
>they're everywhere in California
Are you feeling okay mate?
>>14703107
the cv8 and pontiacs are identical, in saying that the only differences between monaros and gtos that share the same engines is the suspension, brakes and body kit.
>>14703114
HSV GTO /= Pontiac GTO
>>14703089
You realise you just said what he said right?
>>14703118
No it does not, If it were a HSV it would have a fucking HSV badge on it.
>>14703114
The cunts aren't talking about the Pontiac GTO that we got in the states.
You shouldn't argue in the aussie threads, they will drag you down to there level, then beat you with experience.
>>14703122
>The Pontiac is a Holden because of larger release numbers that don't have anything to do with anything
>No, the Pontiac is an HSV because they shared coincided release dates and engine options
Did you even read the two posts?
>>14703128
>>14703145
>hsv-monaro-coupe-4-06
>>14703118
OP posted a Pontiac. So Pontiac it will be. He doesn't care about the HSV or he would have said so.
>>14703145
yes that is a VY HSV GTO Coupe, from 2004.. your point?
>>14702482
https://www.mobile.de/cz/Osobn%C3%AD-v%C5%AFz/Pontiac-GTO/vhc:car,pgn:1,pgs:10,srt:mileage,sro:asc,ms1:20000_10_,prx:25000/pg:vipcar/223168912.html
>>14702162
I think I would beat them in a race.
That's what I think.
>>14702162
They're absolutely hideous, and it's a real shame, because if they weren't bland, ugly jellybean cars, I'd want one for muh v8 rwd manual.
If you don't mind the styling,
04 gtos are cheap for the power, but
Brakes are junk, problem fixed in the 05 and 06
Rear spring sag, known problem. Have to order springs from straya. Peddlers is one supplier.
Bushings in these car go bad fast. Rear camber cannot be adjusted without aftermarket parts, so if the bushes go bad there go the inside of your rear tires.
The posi units tend to burn up fast as mentioned.
4l60 is kill. 20mpg max. But still faster in a straight line than a 6spd.
But overall I say the ls1 is the better buy. Head and or cam swap negates the extra power of the ls2 for far less money. And all the newer parts swap over.
