What's your opinion on the Honda civics?
Do you like them, hate them why?
i think it's an excellent car for a woman to drive.
>>14682729
I love Civics. Civics are great. However I avoid recommending models favored by the Hondatards that are cancer, so I refuse to recommend an EF hatch, an EG, or EK Civic.
>>14682729
Here it's one of two people who drive civics:
Beaners who rice them out then sell them and buy another civic to rice out, repeat.
And people who want a good gas mileage cheap shitbox.
>>14682749
This for me as well.
>>14682729
I daily an 8th gen EX-L sedan.
It's okay. I appreciate the reliability and good mileage, but it's a terribly boring car to drive. Plan on hanging onto it for a bit longer until I start living closer to work.
>>14682777
>drives EX-L
>complains it's boring
The Si exists for people like you.
>>14682729
honest reply from a man in the professional auto repair trade for a bit now.
hondas are over rated, and over priced. Yeah sure, the cars are OK.
But really, getting yourself a little corolla or toy sedan of some kind is much more reliable and in my personal opinion, designed better.
if you're in a honda and your timing belt snaps on the highway - lol engine swap or new car time.
in your little toyota? pull to side of road, get it back home, spend 3 hrs with a jack stand, floor jack, basic wrenches and a crank puller tool and you slap a new $13 timing belt back on there and you're all set. plus, imo the location of the fasteners under the hood are pleasingly spaced (not the latest ones tho x\) and no weird shit like honda brake calipers or what not.
>>14682789
This is a fine piece of counter Honda culture. I want to know more.
Save me before I buy an accord or Acura TL.
>>14682749
>>14682759
But those are the best ones
Anything 2006+ looks like cancer
>>14682786
I ended up with the car more because it was convenient than anything else.
I used to daily my Prelude, but the 100 miles a day and winter weather were starting to take a toll on the car. The Civic was bought new by my grandpa, who passed away. My grandma didn't need two cars, so she sold it to me at a really good price. Now I'm hanging onto it until I move closer to work (down to 20 miles a day), then I'll get something more fun to daily. I might keep the Civic anyway though, because it's the only practical car I own.
>>14682831
Those are also the same cars where if you try to get into the enthusiast scene, you wind up surrounded by Hondatards who believe Vtec is a gift from god.
I recommedn 7th gen models often.
>but much front struts. The RSX was based on that model Civic and did well enough. The problem is the D17 engine, which you can swap out for a K-series with relative ease using OEM parts
>>14682821
Hondas are perfectly reliable, some models are just riced taxed.
Avoid auto trannies on 6-7th gen V6 accords
Only good part about them is the gearbox and the CRX
Otherwise you can always find a much more fun, more reliable, or easier to work on car for less. Only reason they're popular in car culture is because some guy choosing the cars in Fast and Furious decide to cheap out on one of them
I daily a 91 DX hatch. Just hit 220k miles and starting to hear some rattling and squeaking in the transmission.
I get people rolling down their windows and asking me if Im selling. But no, my family's had this car since 2006 and I will just keep putting money and parts into it because that's how its gonna be.
>>14682729
here in NZ they are almost universally frowned upon, personally, i think they are great
>>14682729
I 80s and 90s Honda in general
>>14682871
7th gen civics have shit suspension, RSXs do as well. Actually do some research next time.
Finding the cure for cancer is nothing compared to finding a clean, unmolested Civic from the Initial D/NFSU2 era.
Great cheap car to learn on till you get off your P's, I wouldn't keep it after though.
>>14683968
yeah they definitely dont get respect here.
its a shame they are all thrashed too, would love to own a decent civic as a runabout car.
>>14682729
the 2015 feels like it was made out of melted down mcdonalds toys
I test drove pic related a few months ago. Stock, 5-speed, 90k miles. I thought I loved Civics. Now I'm not so sure.
> 1. high prices
because muh honda resale value and muh honda fanboys
> 2. high insurance rates
(I'm 25 with a clean record btw) because muh mexican thieves
> 3. disappointing driving experience
I anticipated the D16's gutlessness, but the sloppy shifter, mushy brakes, and soft, slow, and numb steering were a huge disappointment.
So an EM1 fixes all that, right? No. It exacerbates 1 and 2, while taking away the only two benefits of the hatch: efficiency and practicality. And they take premium fuel. For 160 hp.
As a DD, Civics don't make sense on paper. From a performance standpoint, they're even worse. You have to swap engine$ and other part$ to get performance of any kind, on top of the price of a clean, rust-free example. At this point you're $10k into a compact economy car that just might be in the 14s, still costs a small fortune to insure, and has the attention of every beaner gang member in town.
What's the point?
It's true that basemodel civics are eco cars and they're driven by people who think they're driving a Type R but that just goes to ruin the reputation of the Type R. In actuality the b16 is a great engine and Type R model is a legitimate sports car.
Got one of the edgy euro 8th gen civics, 1.8 i-vtec SE
I like it, looks cool as fuck (in my opinion at least, only in black though), and being 19 It's probably the most fun car I can get insured on
Only got it 2 weeks ago, but It feels incredibly modern for a 10 year old car, my normie friends thought it was brand new
>>14685007
this is what i meant in my earlier post :D Hondas in general are "OK" in my book, but having worked on shit tons of hondas and toyotas i tell family and freinds to just get a corolla or an avalon. corollas can have some nice sharp braking if you stay on top of cleaning and adjusting the drums - if rear discs then even better. Parts are a little bit cheaper and they generally dont have every asshat on CL asking way too much JUST BECAUSE it's a "honda"
>>14682729
i'd only have mk1 civic or a crx
mk3 is ok ek9 is pushing it
anything after that is just no
>>14682729
They're nice little cars for building on a budget and, in some cases, don't look all that bad.
However, there is a stigma around them that makes them loose their appeal really quick. All the standing, rice exhaust, and "VTACH JUST KIiICKED IIIIInNN, YO", bullshit is retarded.
>>14682789
what about the Corolla e90 ?
I'm looking for something ubiquitous that I can grenade with a turbo charger
then just buy another engine second hand and bolt the old custom manifolds on
>>14684503
They make do. If would've been much better had the struts been angled instead of vertical. They fixed that on 2006+ cars though.
Saying the 2001-2005 Civics are shit though because of the struts is hondatard-tier retarded. Everyone uses struts. Sorry your favorite boy racer project gave up the double wishbones to join the cool kids
I just like the look of the hatchs. Something that looks subtle and sweet.
>>14685007
Sounds like you were driving a lemon m8, my 98 coupe with 243k miles has very responsive steering and brake inputs and was 500 dollars
>>14686680
Let alone the shifting is fantastic cmon m8 was that shit owned by a Mexican woman or what
>>14682729
I like them, but only EG and EK because they're cute looking. Also have reliable naturally aspirated engine though they like to drink oil. Don't require too much maintenance either unless you're a stop light boyracer.
They'll never look as good as the original iteration. They used to be aesthetic as fuck.
>>14686854
were they available as a station wagon with that dash? because that would be perfect.
I like them tbqhwyf
>>14682729
nothing wrong with them, just the hondatards
>buddy thinks he can build a sicccck race car after watching every video from iAmTaiBoogie (bunch of niggers acting like niggers)
>buys pos eg hatch for 500
>thinks it'll do 10 sec on the quarter because he stripped the interior (he thinks it weigh 1600 lbs) and a b18
>mfw
Honda 4 cylinders sound disgusting, easily the worst sounding 4 cylinder. For that reason alone I kind of hate them.
>>14682749
Em2???
>>14682754
The latter is me.
Em2 is based. Also faster 0-60 than listed by a whole 2s in the ex.
>>14682789
>overpriced
>comparing it to toyota
Top kek. I can get a decent used gen 7/8/9 honda for well under 12k at under 50k mi i cant say the same for toyocucks in my area the cheapest i can get decent is a 6k mr2 while all corollas, 50k-100k mi, for around 9k to 13k and up depending on year. 6k baseline on 90s ones even on Craigslist. Only people in my area of nc that drive toyotas are retired, rich, or really poor and likely bought out of state.
>>14687176
Iamtaiboogie Is cancer,check out 4bangersproduction. This Is the reason i started liking civics.
>>14687752
>Em2???
yes.most of my 7th gen folder is K20/K24 swapped EM2's
>>14682729
Love how light and compact they are
Hate most people that own them
>>14682749
yeah , hate on the better handling ones , pleb
What are your thoughts on this?
http://ventura.craigslist.org/cto/5458701662.html
>>14687826
I don't hate the better handling ones. I hate the retards associated with the better handling one and go out of my way to avoid being confused with them.
>>14684503
This is very true same goes for bushings. Not really that much of an issue to me though its never really hurt it except for on speed bumps and my drive way.
>>14685135
Anon em2 has back wishbone struts.
>>14687201
Which engine i personally dont like toyota early 90s corolla engines sounds.
Also if vtec the solenoid is fucked or its a faulty/flat o ring if it sounds like someone throwing up into ass.
>>14687870
>Anon em2 has back wishbone struts.
pre-em2 cars had front double wishbones which is the reason for 99% of the "2001+ Civics Suck" argument.
I have an EG Hatch that will smoke just about any car short of a ferrari with a few simple mods
i have a 06 si FG2, is there any good non-rice mods i can do to it besides a cold air intake?
>>14687961
Actual motor upgrades
>>14687969
Like?
>>14687833
Less than 30k original miles, yet it has dents, faded paint and torn seats, yeah right. I've bought real classics in better shape than that POS for about the same money
>>14687961
FD2 Civic Type R front end conversion.
>>14687994
that spoiler is huge rice
>>14687803
Muh nigga.
But id only replace the engine if i have to... Or got a prelude. I find the concept of d17a2 lude interesting. I wanna see it happen.
>tfw my em2 is hand me down from my older brother who didn't take care of it
I need to take more photos of it when i can but the things beat up by college apartment parking spaces. Also only really see myself taking shots at home anyways. I need to make a new bread pic.
>>14687894
Better than none.
>>14687857
This. Though 2016 civic coupe i hear is handling as good as the newer mazda 3s which isnt bad, though civic has gone buffmanlet.
Ill still probably end up getting one.
My friend has one (2015) and he's insufferable.
>it's his birthday, his gift is in the trunk
>jokingly hand him the keys to my 2001 Honda Accord and say this is his gift
>"awesome bro let me just cut my dick off and it's perfect" (something along those lines)
>asking for his opinion on used cars
>seems to be allergic to anything from before 2000 or over 100k miles
>says if a car is "three years old with 150k miles" to avid it
>has an inferiority complex about not being able to drive stick, constantly espousing the virtues of "sport mode" in his automatic
>>14688003
I never said anything about the spoiler. and that spoiler is factory BTW
>>14687971
>Cam/Cams
>Performance plugs/wires
>Premium gas/Eth fuels
Most rice burners add tons of shit without upgrading internals and wonder why their cars overheat or act weird with stock internals.
>>14688020
Factory rice is still rice and that thing looks like it came off an Evo.
>>14682729
I hate how people make them out to be anything other than shit boxes, but otherwise I don't care.
>>14688035
>>14688062
This
they are total eco boxes and the money you spend would be well worth spending on another project car and not tesrig apart a DD
>>14688035
Also remember this.
Horsepower is THE most expensive to add. You want the most HP for the dollar
>>14682729
I'll take a ricer in a Civic over "IT'S JUST A CAR BRO, IT'S AN APPLIANCE ON WHEELS LOL DRIVING IS A CHORE."
Stanceshit can fuck right off, though.
>>14682729
I'm so indifferent to them I can't even explain it. Like the same way I feel about a four cylinder Camry.
>>14688018
100k is fine the only people that have problems with them dont replace all fluids or the belts and wont get the gasket checked. Do that first especially if you can yourself.
>>14688101
>tfw only camry drivers you see are ricer 18-23year olds.
Its interesting.
I wanna get this in about a month
>>14687969
Like the window motors, or blower motor? Seat motor???
Or did you mean *engine* modifications?
>>14688171
>18-23 yo
Not here. They're all just normal working schlubs around here. Anywhere from 18-60 boring ass people that you pass in the convenience store on your way to work in the morning, as they work their way to a boring dead end job. Same with people that drive civics here.
>>14688191
>Being this autistic
This is why no one likes ricers.
>I obviously know what you meant but just to be an insufferable faggot I'll make it obvious you need to call it an engine.
>>14688172
I got 3 years and ill buy it used. Hopefully in blue. I like blue hondas.
>>14688226
Well i live in a strange part of nc where the upper middle class is next door to the lower middle and poor. Also roads are shit here between Clayton and Powhatan.
>>14688254
It's autistic to know the difference between a motor and an engine? Given that, what kind of retarded are you for not knowing?
>>14688328
>Calling it an engine.
Gee it's like you think it's electric
It's obviously a combustable engine, donyou even know what you're talking about?
>This is acceptable between people who work on vehicles.
I'm 100% sure that if you went to a mechanic he would't be like "Bro it's an engine not a motor"
Take your vape pen and fedora else where.
>>14688341
So you're a redneck, got it. I bet you also enjoy fucking your girlfriend. But it's totally acceptable to call your sister that, it's understood that's what you meant.
>>14688191
>>14688254
>>14688328
>>14688341
>>14688364
SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP OR THE TWINGO GETS IT.
Now. An engine is a type of motor, but a motor is not an engine. It's a similar definition to a square. A rectangle can be a square but a square cannot be a rectangle
>>14688373
That's incorrect.
>>14688364
>Getting this offened
Hey bro, what happened to talking about cars?
>>14688373
They can both propel objects.
You'd have to get more detailed friendo.
>>14688398
Just shut the fuck up.
>>14688403
>calling me offended because you think it makes you look less stupid
K.
Definitely no one got their panties in a twist before posting this.
Civics are like Asian chicks, they get the job done but they're boring and there's way too many. Don't expect much performance either.
>>14688440
>Says the anon who goes straight to pulling the redneck card.
Cool story bro, Im going to go back to fucking my sister aight? Cool, keep burnin holes in your lugs sweet heart.
>>14688463
>straight to it
No, you can easily go back and see that I assumed you were retarded, before surmising that you're a sister fucking redneck.
Learn to read, anon.
>>14688471
Oh shit, admission to swapping subject from cars to being retarded when someones having a normal conversation when all of a sudden.
>WELL LOOK AT THIS SHIT, calling an engine a motor he is onviously retarded let me huff on my vape dick and tip my fedora his way without suggesting "Engine" upgrades to another anon which I totally understood what the retarded redneck fucking his sister meant.
>>14682789
why couldn't you do the same for a Honda?
>>14688497
That vapor thing seems like a real trigger for you, and also a bit like projecting. But do you really think you're coming off as the level headed person here?
Pic related, it's my vape.
>>14688574
>Because vapes are too mainstream let me smoke my equivalant of newports.
No see for a while I've just been fucking with you
>>14688583
>just fucking with you
K lol.
>>14682729
No. because they're econoboxes and FWD. Now before you fanboys fly off the handle and get buttraged at me about how good your precious fwd car is, I understand that they're light and can handle quite well and can be fast and blah blah, I just prefer the way RWD cars drive
>muh skids
>muh power oversteer
>muh clutch drop u turns
>>14688614
You're way off topic, dude. We're now discussing whether it's retarded to not know the difference between motor and engine, and shitposting about who fucks their family. Read the fucking thread ffs.
>>14686766
>Honda Today
Holy fuck, it's so cute
>>14688552
many honda engines in the 90's were still interference engines
>>14687176
>>14687791
What, taiboogie vids are actually decent compared to all the shit out there. It's literally how most races go down around here, and he isnt recording off of a potato like most people, The fuck do you expect?
>>14688741
That sounds horrible, why would they do such a thing?
>>14687961
get a hondata flashpro and run a tune.
base tunes get rid of the rev hang, raise rev limit, fix the torque dip, increase throttle response, and allow for launch control. It completely transformed my car and made it way more fun to drive.
![20160314_174244[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ovhgVbF.jpg "20160314_174244[1].jpg")
>>14682749
>EF hatch
>not a good car
coupes are for fuckboys
>>14685007
> 1. high prices
ef hatch was $50
>high insurance
$40 a month
>disappointing driving experience
mines 60 hp and its still fun
>>14689490
never said it wasn't good, only that they're often owned/raped by Hondatards.
>>14689508
yeah but..
>swap in new engine
>refresh brakes/suspension
>clean interior
not hard at all to fix them up. its the easiest car in the world to work on
mine isn't even running the proper engine. and it runs/drives great
>car was d15b2
>car is d15b6
I love civics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnc-JWtYBjg
![GDxtFRPg[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/HZmivEj.jpg "GDxtFRPg[1].jpg")
>>14689490
ayyy
it's honestly a great car even with 60hp
>tfw no d16z6
>>14689538
>tfw 45mpg
0-60 in who gives a shit
>>14682789
>he thinks interference engines are bad.
I've had an eg hatch with d16y6 block, d16y8 intake/exhaust, some ricy-racy ecu and spoon sports lsd
shit this rusty rice-bucket was fast
>>14682789
>honda brake calipers
nigga what, they're completely standard.
>>14682729
I feel like you're genuinely new or too drunk to make your trolling creative
>>14687857
you sound like a whiny bitch that only care about how people preceive you instead of actually liking good cars for its merits.
but what else do you expect from a trip?
>>14687961
>non-rice mods
>thinks cold air intake is not rice.
>>14689301
Pretty much any halfway modern engine is interference
Hey Honda people I need your help. Anyone here have any clue what honda these would fit? I got random parts for free but I have no fucking clue what these fit. pretty sure something early 90s though I'm not sure
>>14682789
I would take the slight chance of a timing belt breaking on a honda over the archaic electrical systems that toyota continues to cling on to. It may be reliable but its also hard to troubleshoot in this day and age.
Plus, doing a headgasket on a honda civic? 2 hour job maximum, ive done a head gasket on a civic in 45 minutes flat before.
Bullshit the fastener locations are better, you try getting behind the intake manifold one on a corrolla or camry and then try a d16 honda its so much easier. Oh and enjoy your 3 speed trans on the corrolla.
>>14692172
That is a tiny ass spring senpai
>>14692304
I'd say it's a rear lowering spring of shit quality for an early 90's Civic.
>>14689301
High compression engines (i.e any naturally aspirated engine with decent power) pretty much have to be interference engines.
