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I don't have the copypasta but yeah, time for this again. Was in an accident, just got out of hospital, don't remember it, but my Clio is dead. Might get an Abarth or a BRZ next.
What's the lowest metric a hatchback must meet before it can be considered hot?
The last picture of my car
>>14672366
Has to be performance oriented
>>14672259
Sorry to hear that anon, do you remember the lead up to the incident?
>>14672629
I remember the day up until I left the car park
>>14672366
must attract at least one homosexual man a day
>>14672366
must provide at least 1 fun/km
What's the cheapest hot hatch I can get?
regards, poorfag
>>14672646
cool insurance fraud bro :^)
>>14672672
Brand new? Fiat abarth in America The sonic rs is close in price but heavyer.
>>14672743
Looking for used, any year.
Guessing SVT would be the cheapest on average.
I'm buying a toyota starlet wish me luck boys
>>14672859
they're pretty overpriced cars for what they are
here you can buy a civic, add a turbo to the d16 or swap in a b16/b18 and still be paying less then a starlet asking price
they're good looking cars though
>>14672259
you have to drive them before deciding
all the new ones have electrical assisted steering making them boring/numb/arcade-like etc etc etc
I drove the 500 Abarth and the fiesta ST and I was disgusted by their steering
My wife drives a Mazdaspeed3 (2012) and it's not much better
I'm afraid to try the toyobaru (my last hope for a decent car) because if that one is just as bad I don't know what else to have as a next car.
If you want fun and you don't need more than 2 seats, nothing beats the MR2 Spyder (unless you have a lot of money to burn)
>>14672927
Oh I can get a starlet for only 1200 here, in decent shape. I'm a yurop so
>>14672994
Maybe look at Suzuki Swifts? They're not as popular as other hot hatches but still a fun drive, and look pretty cool imo.
>>14672945
I like my toyobarus steering. It's pretty good. It is the only "performance" car I have driven but its as good or better than most old shitboxes feel.
>>14672945
You won't like the BRZ, I crossed shopped the shit out of things before buying the fiesta st, and that's because I got a brand new 2015 for under 18k so I couldn't really pass up the deal.
I was sad, I spent the better part of a year going on extended test drives and tested the BRZ three times only to be disappointed. Too bad, because that's the one I really wanted.
>>14672945
>>14673498
>Buying a car designed post-2010
>>14673143
Hell yeah, I've been looking at those too and they're pretty awesome. Are they reliable though?
>>14673675
>driving a rusty shitbox from the 1980s
>>14673682
She's got character.
What's better, hot hatch or hot hatch-based estate?
>>14672259
if you like sports hatchbacks then you are best off going for an older hot hatch, MK1-2 gen VW golfs are good, other than this the old 205 GTI or renault 5 turbo, a bit pricey albeit, if you are considering a BRZ or a hatchback why not something better than a BRZ in everyway and also hatchback, like an AE86 ?
Toasting goat hot hatch
>>14674453
The fact that you will never see one in the wild kinda disproves your statement
>>14672366
must guzzle and EPA rating of 1 dick per mile
>>14674515
not even once
>>14674535
>brands never change
k.
>>14672259
You the Scottish Cilo anon?
You okay there buddy?
>>14673678
No idea. Never heard any horror story about them though.
What's a good warm hatch?
GTI or Golf R
>>14674590
Neither one, because I want germany to keep existing.
![alfa_147_gta_pearl_white_by_scuderia_modelcars-d3hlunk[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/DgAPXM7.jpg "alfa_147_gta_pearl_white_by_scuderia_modelcars-d3hlunk[1].jpg")
>they'll never put AWD into Fabia other than the WRC rally specials
>they'll never put anything but diesels as their "top" motorization in them
I thought the 1st gen Fabia and Octavia looked mundane and boring, but with the years I came to appreciate the design. The new Fabias are butt ugly though.
The best hot hatch money can buy you is E46 compact
>>14674585
I would also like to know
>>14675198
Are you serious ? No brakes, it weighs as heavy as a e46 m3 and is less reliable than the old compact e36 !
>>14672259
Buy an another Clio. 5 stars at the EuroNcap, that's why you still alive.
I just bought the new clio rs for my wife to replace her clubman cooper s, it's not so bad...
>>14673711
Hot hatch-based estates are nice. Such a shame that there isn't one made from Clio RS.
>>14674548
no, but iim doing alright. car saved my life tho
>>14678212
>>14678217
>>14674513
It's a kinda rare sight, but there are some.
You see lots of Abarth 500s, though.
>>14678235
dayuummmmmmmmnnnnnnnnnnnnn
>>14678269
considering ITB's for pic related, but i'm pretty sure my gearbox will be on the way out soon.
>>14672366
If you touch it and it burns you, it's a hot hatch.
>>14672750
Yuro?
Starlet GT Turbo
Nissan Sunny GTIR
Clio 172
Mk 5 Fiesta Zetec S (not strictly "hot", but fast enough and fun)
Mk 6 Fiesta ST (pre-facelift)
mk4/5 Golf GTI
Peugeot 205 GTI (will have to be high mileage)
EP3 Civic Type R (2001-2003 models)
>>14674590
>not the BMW M135i if you want ~300bhp+
>>14678360
Or simply not a car made by people working against the german country.
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/technik-motor/iaa/daimler-chef-zetsche-fluechtlinge-koennten-neues-wirtschaftswunder-ausloesen-13803671.html
http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/fluechtlinge-daimler-und-co-beschraenken-sich-auf-praktika-a-1074495.html
Do yourself a favor and boycott german cars, if you like our cars, or germany in general.
pretty sold on the Abarth. Cheap to run, well equipped, 5 star NCAP
im considering buying civic type R ep3 or toyota corolla vvtli (or celica with same engine).
Im from central yurop and got around 6k euros to spend. Should i buy something else ? kick from changing cams makes me wet
>>14674513
>>14672611
What's the ST like? Currently driving a Swift Sport and was thinking of taking one of these for a test drive, along with a BRZ.
>>14673678
I have one, an 07 Swift Sport. Very reliable, I've had it two and a half years and the only thing I've had to change was the front control arms - the suspension is very stiff which probably wore out the bushings. Front tyres don't last long at all though, a set of Falken ZE914 last about 10k miles on the front.
>>14680549
Go do it, you will immediately appreciate the feel of the ST. BRZ, not so much.
>>14680619
Well it'll not be for a few months, I'm starting a new job and I want to wait until I have my review. Did you do anything to the ST? Seen a few for sale with the Mountune kit.
