>14 dead 17 wounded
>2 shooters killed in SUV incident
>1 male one female
>1 other person detained on foot
>shooting took place in a conference room christmas party
>lots of evidence pointing towards muslims but very few sources currently are saying so
talk about it here last one is way over bump limit. la times has been just giving updates and I need to provide a URL to make this thread
http://www.latimes.com/
This board is dead, why can't we just talk about this shit on /k/?
Fuck the mods, /pol/ is so cancerous even /b/ doesn't want to touch it.
>>5505
who cares just let it lead to good discussion here. the only real topics on /pol/ were history and current events and NIGGER SPAM. now that history has a fairly successful board lets let this current event board be pretty comfy.
/k/ and /pol/ has always overlapped so let the overlap occur here
>>5505
Honestly don't know why this board was even made.
Just another place for /pol/ to spew shit.
I'm just really fucking ripshit that if you said "Let's talk about the mass shooting today", I'd have to ask you to clarify.
I know there's a guy on Twitter tweeting at each senitor exactly what kickbacks... Contributions they've gotten from the NRA. That made me laugh.
>Qatari
But those guys are Rich. They pay dumb poor people to do this shit.
Wonder why he did it.
I think there a more than just simple terrorism here.
>>5509
no images and a url is required so they cant spam shit. this is basically /new/ without the stormfags.
plus as long as you never respond to the storm fags they'll stop wasting their time here since its clear how many more people they reach on /pol/
>>5512
qatar is rich but its citizens are not. they still essentially have slavery its a big topic since they won the hosting of the world cup
>>5513
I'll keep hope then anon.
/his/ has held up well. Maybe this board will too
>>5515
I sort of expect a browsing of the catalogue here to represent the national media of the past few days and for the big sort of threads like this one to be fast for this board but still slow compared to the rest of the site.
essentially a comfy thread with no ITS 2015 spam
>>5514
The slaves are immigrants from south asia.
This guy had a job at a hospital. His parents were probably rich or well off if they sent their son over here.
If he did sympathize with islamist extremsim i'd think he'd know this kind of shit is below a person like him. Let some poor dumb fool do it.
That's what all these rich arabs who donate to terrorists are thinking.
Fox News is attacking CAIR right now. lel
>>5529
>he still watches television
I'd post one of my several hundred smug anime faces but this is a text board. Maybe I should get back into ASCII art.
>>5511
There was only one mass shooting today.
What are you on about?
>>5533
Ignore anybody who talks about the NRA in this context. They're not even a gun rights group. They're the lobby of the American arms industry and have supported numerous gun control measures. Anon knows not what he speaks,
>>5533
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/12/02/the-other-mass-shooting-that-happened-today-in-the-united-states/
>>5535
Yeah, I'm sure that the group that campaigned to prevent the CDC from researching gun violence has my best interests as a human at heart.
>>5532
I true /news/man has 4 televisions on at all times monitoring all available newsfeeds, not counting computer monitors.
>>5538
Funnily enough the report actually was in favor of civilian gun ownership. I fucking hate seeing NRA stickers all over the place while nobody has even heard of the groups like GOA and the SAF. It's like if everybody pretended to be a hamburger connoisseurs while wearing McDonalds t-shirts.
>>5540
I'm subscribed to thirty-nine American newspapers and eleven international ones, and have seven radios tuned to different stations with differing political views. TV news is a 60-year-old meme.
>>5542
>TV news is a 60-year-old meme.
It's just another information source, Anon, although I agree an outmoded, antiquated and commercialized one.
>>5533
>>5536
- http://shootingtracker.com/wiki/Mass_Shootings_in_2015
A reddit community project.
They re-defined what a mass shooting is. FBI has a multi-decade database on mass shootings where there are a minimum of four fatalities.
Some redditcreature redefined a mass shooting as four people (including the perpetrators) as being struck by a bullet to any degree.
Using that new criteria, they then are listing every single report from the news that they run across (verified or not) and now claim that there are more mass shooting than there are days in 2015 so far.
- https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/11/30/there-have-been-334-days-and-351-mass-shootings-so-far-this-year/
While intelligent people could debate over what the definition of a "mass shooting" could or should be, what we're seeing with this meme is somebody pulling a new definition out of their ass and then publishing it as if it is the standard use definition that has been in use for decades.
>>5536
>https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/12/02/the-other-mass-shooting-that-happened-today-in-the-united-states/
>1 dead, 3 injured
>Savannah, Georgia
>West 33rd St near Barnard
Nope, just a bunch of hood rats doing what they do naturally.
Jesus, the only people who complain about this shit are the people who have never stepped foot in an actual ghetto.
Can't post picture, but here's what street view came up with.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/209+west+33rd+street+savannah+ga/@32.0611423,-81.1015882,3a,75y,194.09h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m4!1sW04sG7E9TPeU7r6VF6qO3A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x31682e11a2ffa0e7!6m1!1e1
>>5536
You know what we sued to call that? A murder and several assaults. Gang violence. Urban decay. There's nothing "mass" about one person being killed and three wounded.
>>5543
Seriously though, I think the combination of visual and aural stimulation makes it easier to manipulate emotions and push political motives through misleading news. Also it made it really hard to elect good people who weren't beautiful and good actors to political office. Nixon's sweat glands and George Bush's watch really fucked them.
>>5570
When voter turnout is less than 50% no one wins the election.
>>5570
Fuck Trump, man. Because of him nobody is listening to the actual Republicans on the ticket, several of which are promising. This election is depressing as hell.
>>5576
>Short term pain for long term gain if you're conservative minded. Half the field is pretty young anyway, they can run again plenty of times.
Oh, you're right about that. I'm just salty about non-neoconservative conservatives being shafted completely until this election, which happens to be the one a former Democrat took over. Trump scares me mostly because he's really muddy on his actual policies, but I don't doubt he at least has the potential to get shit done with and look good doing it.
>>5586
>Honestly, do the details even matter when it comes to President?
Ehh, these days the President has more and more direct power, but in theory and still for the most part you're correct.
>I like the idea of having Trump there to tell them to kill themselves for sending him garbage.
I agree with you there. I really like the fact that he refuses to talk like a politician. I really hope he chooses people like Paul, Rubio, Cruz, etc to work for him if he gets elected. People need to realize that the Republican party is not monolithic, and giving them a voice would do well to make that clear, as well as possibly helping them in future elections.
any autistic kids die?
or was it all workers?
>>5598
For sure. There's a lot of tension these days and once the primaries are over and it's a one-on-one it's going to be a real political battle. The culture war that's been going on for decades now is rapidly approaching its climax, and Trump will be the catalyst.
>>5598
not him but fuck I don't like trump but I love everything around him. every country is going so far the wrong way we need someone like him to just say stop the bullshit and be a fucking country again. stop telling me free college and every other country's citizens matter more than me and fucking do something about here.
if he can get that point across and make other people do it its a win
What's with everybody discussing presidential candidates in this thread? What would that have to do with the recent events?
>>5615
why do you think?
>>5615
gun control started it. lack of underage /pol/tards let it continue
>>5615
Don't provoke the /pol/lacks in the thread, Anon. You're just going to derail it further.
Did anyone see the CAIR conference earlier? What relatives of the shooter were there?
>>5615
What's there to talk about? If this were a news article comments section it would be a bunch of "thanks Obama" and "ban assault rocks" posts, one or two of which would devolve into a long thread of personal insults. I don't even know why Naruto made this board to be honest. Our discussion of the tactics and equipment in the event on /k/ would lead to the same result, and on /pol/ it would have had a high volume of garbage posts and everybody would forget by tomorrow.
>>5620
Did CAIR actually say anything? I thought people were just yelling at them for taking foreign aid, etc again. Do you have a link?
>>5621
>Did CAIR actually say anything? I thought people were just yelling at them for taking foreign aid, etc again. Do you have a link?
My roommate was watching MSNBC while I was making food and they showed footage of a press conference from earlier where one man who I think they said was Syed's brother in law and some woman, maybe others, spoke a little bit and then they cut it off. I didn't get to hear any details.
>>5622
That's a shame. Thanks though. I'll have to look it up.
>>5625
>http://www.businessinsider.com/council-on-american-islamic-relations-san-bernardino-shooting
sorry about the low quality clickbait link
>>5629
For anyone wanting to avoid clickbait ad-revenue: https://archive.is/m2ll1
>>5630
>https://archive.is/m2ll1
I should start including archive.is links in my OP posts in the future, thanks for reminding me.
The Guardian, of all outlets, has a good auto-updating summary here:
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2015/dec/02/san-bernardino-shooting-live-coverage
I'd archive that but there would be no point because it wouldn't update that way.
>>5535
>Ignore anybody who talks about the NRA in this context. They're not even a gun rights group. They're the lobby of the American arms industry and have supported numerous gun control measures. Anon knows not what he speaks,
I dunno they always have these hammy articles about MUH RIGHTS in American Rifleman
>>5649
American Rifleman is a pretty decent magazine, but the NRA itself uses muh rights as a proxy to support the domestic arms industry. Or rather, since people are wising up they just ignore issues that could promote general liberty in the field but have the potential to hurt domestic producers, like the ban on 7n6 and the subsequent domestic obsolescence of AK-74 variants.
How many have died now?
>>5653
all of them
>>5538
The NRA along with Gov Reagan supported the 1968 GCA, after the Black Panthers started arming up. Pro-gun America as it is today started in the 90s, because Pres Clinton got to the Assault Weapons Ban before the GOP could draft their own version. It's like when they got salty over Obamacare versus Romneycare, which was the same shit but with GOP branding.
3 Muslims kill 20 people, but it's not terrorism it's just workplace violence
>>5661
People are already trying to blame this on the Muslims, although the main suspect is white.
>>5505
this board is a week old give it time. The last thread hit 600+ comments so obviously there's activity when an actual news story hits
>>5664
>muslim
>parents are from pakistan
>arabic name
>beard
>white
one of these things does not belong. not to mention they shot up a christmas party and his wife is from saudi arabia
>>5664
Islam is a religion not a race.
Why don't we just kill all the sand niggers? One of the fuckers blew up my notifications last night
I was listening to KOGO 600am one day when one of the guys said "my buddy at the police station said they were having active shooter drills around the city". Later that day, active shooter reported airport shutdown. I'm skeptical, tell me once and for all. Is all this shit real? Sandy Hook, San Bernardino....am I wasting time questioning the government and local law enforcement?
>>5661
But so far all of his social posting related to religion have been moderate, he worked at the place in question, the place he worked at was as recently as 2010 embroiled in a scandal involving mistreatment of employees, the guns were bough legally here, and there's no proof he's had contact with anyone from any terrorist organization.
>>5708
> White guy shoots up a public building
> Completely bashed by all mainstream media
> Entire country hates him
> Used as an example by the liberals as to why we shouldn't be able to own guns
> Muslim guys does it
> "w-well he was just angry, there was an argument at the Christmas party he was at.."
> "s-so uhh, how 'bout 'dem long rifle ar-15 style weapunz and assault style clothing??"
>>5723
THIS FUCKING THIS
One fucking second its oh I bet a white dude did it "TAKE THEIR GUNS!!!" and "this is why America sucks because we have lunatics with guns" blah blah fucking blah
Once they find out its a different race "oh he was just angry" and "he was brain washed"
This kind of retarded thoughts of dumb shits who want to make every excuse to take away guns is why we as a people are becoming weak. ALWAYS looking for a reason to be offended and to feel oppressed. Yea blame the white guy that owns guns hate the guy mustve been him that did it because he is a hill billy piece of shit with guns oh wait another race did it? "oh wow terrorism sucks bro, but still lets take away our guns so we can be even more defenseless" even I feel bad for the white guys being misjudged and im fucking Asian
And yea there are some retards out there no race or culture is a exception.
>>5661
It's not linked to any ideological group as far as we know. Rightwingers gave the benefit of doubt to the white guy that chimped out in the abortion clinic when all liberal media was calling it white terrorism, why can't we do the same here.
Also, the guns were legally bought.
>>5727
I strongly feel this is a strawman argument. The only people that try to justify shit like this and give those arguments are SJWs and trotskists, most normal people and moderate liberals don't think this way. I am strongly socialist and even I want to see the sandniggers kicked out if they aren't able to respect the western values that welcomed them in the first place, and most leftist people I know think the same way. Of course it is not politically correct to spill it that way, and most liberals are pussies, so they keep those opinions to themselves, so there's also that.
>>5727
>Once they find out its a different race "oh he was just angry" and "he was brain washed"
... so who exactly stopped saying that we should have better gun control after the race of the shooters came out? i'm kinda guessing it was literally not one person
>>5732
Not him, but
What bothers me is that when it's a white guy they go out of their way to make him seem like the devil, but they found out the shooters were muslim and "o-oh well he dindu nuffin, he wuz just a 'lil angry is all".
This has been happening for ages in America now.
>>5731
Pretty much.
Just tell which ever people are talking to you that you 'Reject them and their ideals' and they tend to teeter when confronted with a strong stance on things.
>>5509
At least from what I've seen, it seems like /pol/ but you can actually have some discussion. Its not just people shitposting their Jew conspiracies on literally every post.
>>5761
Yeah, what little experience I have with /news/ is pretty nice actually.
I might come here more often
>>5513
This board also has mods and blatant racism is not allowed. /pol/ won't stick around long when they figure out they're expected to have actual discussions instead of just cramming a bunch of racial slurs into their comment
>>5505
Whats so bad about pol?
>>5727
>>5734
You completely misunderstand.
They aren't looking at the Muslim like his murders were somehow less bad.
They are making sure that nobody assumes he's part of a bigger picture of terrorists. They are saying "he acted on his own", they are not saying "he didn't know what he was doing".
They aren't defending him, they are defending other Muslims. You may disagree with them, but all they are saying is that there is no danger of terrorism and you needn't be scared, and to please not set fire to any Muslim-owned houses.
This is more important to them than their anti-gun agenda - assuming it's the same people. I do not agree with >>5731 in that he considers all leftists and liberals have the same opinion on everything.
In fact, where I'm from, liberals are considered right-wing.
>>5776
No dissusions happen anymore on /pol/, only circle-jerking to how much they hate niggers/cucks/liberals/strawmanoftheweek.
The only thing it was ever good for was when news storys were developing, a role now made obselete by this very board.
>>5501
>be me
>love the new board and the semi coherent and (slightly) less racist shitposty culture
>it took one of the most heinous events on US soil since Sandy Hook to get me interested in /news/
;_;
>>5505
>even /b/
/b/ is full of SJW faggots now.
>>5799
/pol/ has some great discussion about history
>>5501
>no images
>people talk like fags
This board is shit.
going back to /pol/
totes.
>>5509
We will never be defeated. Good luck to you.
>>5798
MUSLIMS ARE A DISEASE
you can cry in a corner and a bury your head in your sand but, it won't save you from their agenda to destroy all non believers.
Muslims do not need to be defended, they don't fit in american culture therefore will be unhappy.
they need to leave or drop islam.
Naive ideologist such as yourself will only make the world more dangerous and vulnerable than it is.
A safe space won't save you from reality, child.
>>5799
I don't really know what you mean. Discussion happens all the time on /pol/. The only difference is that you don't get silenced for unpopular opinions by social police looking to prove their PC-cred.
The amount of memes and shitposting is pretty similar to every other reasonably fast board I've been to.
>>5871
Is this racism? I mean, Islam is a religion, not a race.
>>5798
>They are making sure that nobody assumes he's part of a bigger picture of terrorists.
The problem here is that ISIS has pretty much announced this as their intention. They've called on belevers to coordinate their own independent terrorist actions without too much coordination with others and making sure to stay off of electronic communication so they don't get caught before they can do their damage.
>>5873
I'm going to refresh /pol/ and look at all the threads no the front page. maybe one of those threads will resemble a tiny bitch of this discussion you speak of
>Every girl you ever fapped to just had your kid. How many would be non white?
>QUESTION TIME / THIS WEEK THREAD 2
>Peter Rosenberg from HOT97 Calls Out Donald Trump On His Anti-Semitism!!
>BASED TRUMP -- HOW HAS THIS NOT BEEN POSTED???
>Possible happening in Salt Lake City, Utah?
>Do we REALLY need guns? Look how safe the rest of the world is.
>Can we please talk about the fact that this board was created solely to reduce traffic on /pol/?
has a picture of this board
>aussie shitposting thread calling for the 4th reich but comment is too long to copy here
>The Age of Pre-Crime has Arrived
>US is opening all combat roles to women. So what does does /pol/ think of this? Have SJW finally ruined the american military?
>CARTELS VS CRIPS who wins in a fight
>D A M A G E C O N T R O L
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>Give me one good reason why you dumb seppo cunts should be entertaining the idea of anyone other than John McAfee for President?
>"red pill" me on Ray Kurzweil.
very interesting discussions
>>5874
IT'S NOT RACISM FAGGOT
YOU ARE CORRECT, ISLAM IS NOT A RACE
WHATS YOUR POINT?
>>5871
>Naive ideologist such as yourself
Dog, what tree are you barking at? That's not even a tree. Stop barking, dog.
>>5877
Actually about 2/3rds of those threads seem pretty damn interesting to me. It's sensationalist sure, but even poorly constructed threads about happenings, issues and different public figures lead to real discussions. The difference is that nobody feels any need to show off how virtuous and smart they are compared to others, so you get a more gut-level take on things.
The first thread, about magical sperm getting porno actresses pregnant for example is an excuse to call out racists for being hypocrites. Now I'm not saying it's a paragon of intellectualism, but it still gets at underlying issues a lot of people have.
It's completely un-curated, which is refreshing in the environment of social pressure to conform to certain political ideologies and self-censorship of any dissenting view most of us live come from.
>>5895
oh so youre a lying fag got it.
>>5891
Oh man you're so clever.
Nevermind that the quran and the hadiths basically lay the religion out as a political system finely tuned to conquer other nations.
But yeah, we're all (hehe) *barking up the wrong tree*. I'm sure that toxic masculinity or white privilege is what's really at fault here.
Man haha, barking up the wrong tree. I've never heard anyone turn that into a joke before.
>>5898
Way to improve discourse.
>>5900
you sure know a lot about islam, fucking shill
>>5900
I never defended the koran you idiot. I never defended the 2 shooters either.
I put something into plain English because you didn't understand it.
You're retarded.
>>5798
>Defending other muslims
Maybe that's really the intention behind this kind of bias, and I guess I can understand. But there's something fundamental you're missing-- it's not the job of the news to try and influence public opinion. In fact they're supposed to try to avoid that if at all possible.
They shouldn't have been focusing on the outrageousness of this story only when it would evoke an anti-gun sentiment. Now that they've realized that the story might lead public opinion... somewhere else... they've effectively buried that part of it. It's so blatant.
>>5906
>it's not the job of the news to try and influence public opinion
I want to say that's what exactly what they're paid for, but then you could ask me to provide source and I have none.
Anyway, you're right. Ideally news media should refrain from trying to form the public opinion.
>>5903
You're just restating the argument you already made, and NOT really responding to my argument.
I'm saying you implied that he wasn't a part of some larger movement of muslim terrorists. What I'm saying is that the facts on the ground very much indicate that he is, and the news is trying everything it can to avoid having people come to that conclusion.
I don't think that a couple of nice people getting a few dirty looks from idiots at the checkout at wal-mart is worth letting people get killed because anyone who might have stopped it were afraid of being called racist.
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2015/12/03/neighbor-didnt-report-suspicious-activity-of-san-bernardino-killers-for-fear-of-being-called-racist-n2088543
I hope this doesn't get me banned for "racism" but ethnic profiling works and stereotypes are created from reality.
>>5910
>I'm saying
You didn't until now.
>you implied that he wasn't a part of some larger movement of muslim terrorists.
No, I didn't.
My entire post is full of "They are saying" "They are not saying". The only part where I posted some of my own opinion is at the very bottom.
You really need to learn to read.
>>5909
>I want to say that's what exactly what they're paid for, but then you could ask me to provide source and I have none.
If you're saying what I think you're saying, I agree. I've seen sources that trace support of political candidates during elections to favorable legislative outcomes for the organizations involved, but we already agree on this so it's not worth digging them up.
It's probably unavoidable that news has a bias, but too many people are treating it like they don't. They're letting outside forces set the parameters for what is and is not allowed to be talked about.
>>5866
One less to worry about boys
>>5910
The problem with your argument is the clearly anti-intellectual idea that all people who are Muslims are bad/evil by virtue of being Muslim. Your focus is on Muslims generally, rather than radicalized Islamic terrorists specifically. So despite the fact that there are so many Muslims in the world that, if all of them were truly terrorists, we'd either be dead or in an actual, constant war zone right now, and despite the fact that the local Muslim community came out and denounced the killings, you're still of the belief that every single Muslim is inherently evil. And that's just plain retarded.
This was fake just like Sandy Hook was fake.
>>5501
>>lots of evidence pointing towards muslims but very few sources currently are saying so
Almost like they are trying to keep the motive quiet.
>>5772
>blatant racism is not allowed
(citation needed)
>>5620
>Don't provoke the /pol/lacks in the thread, Anon.
The first reply was derailed by a libtard complaining about /pol/, fuck you. You're the problem.
>>5891
which ones ;^)
>>5906
>Now that they've realized that the story might lead public opinion... somewhere else... they've effectively buried that part of it. It's so blatant.
In (admittedly tenuous) support of this theory, yesterday this story was trending like mad on Facebook's news feeds. Today? Nowhere to be found.
>>6046
Real was fake but Sandy Hook is this.
>>6045
>thinking trump would be able to fix anything at all
Please do. Even if trump had magical miracle cures in his pockets, the bills would still get mangled on their way through congress. All his posturing isn't gonna fix any problems, just like Obama was never able to run this country into the ground the way it was foretold in right-wing media; the office of President just isn't that powerful.
>>6067
Fake but real. This Sandy Hook was IS.
>>5964
uh.. not him but can you pls stop saying the R word? If you want to be an asshole, go to /pol/and
>>6093
Rather?
Radicalized?
Retarded?
>>5501
>one of the victims was an Iranian Christian who escape religious persecution in Iran only to die to religious extremism in America
sad kek
I'm watching the BBC news and the police have let a horde of journalists into the home of the suspects.
Is this normal? The house is packed full of journalists and they're just rooting through their belongings
>>6152
afaik It typically happens only after all recoverable evidentiary items have been removed and thousands of crime scene photos taken on the part of the police/FBI
>>5723
>> White guy shoots up a public building
>> Completely bashed by all mainstream media
>> Entire country hates him
Agree that happens NOW, but it sure didn't with Columbine.
Lots of people STILL believe the shooters did it because they were bullied. They were not bullied. They did some bullying, though.
More than that they specifically stated on video that they were NOT motivated by that or anything else.
But no one wants to know that - they all want to play along with the "bullied kids" narative.
The number of major school shootings caused by bullying still stands at 0.
>>5544
>And Wapo ran with it.
Fucking priceless.
>>5776
it's /pol/
you know it's /pol/
why are you such a weird pussy that you can't spell it properly?
>>5509
OPTION 1. spew your own shit to counter them
OPTION 2. get off the internet
>>5545
That's straight out of gran torino
>>6042
ok
>>>globes/rules/3
>>6217
fuck why do I always forget this one. last try
>>>/rules/global/3
>>>/global/rules/3
>>6179
people with lg monitors are confirmed terrorists now
>>6179
jesus christ the bitch in the studio would not shut the fuck up. let the guy on the scene do his fucking job
>>5501
What pisses me off is all the reactionary comments that come from the left after these shootings.
>We've gotta make it more difficult to obtain guns! If they didn't have guns, this never would have happened!
It's like they don't even use their fucking heads. We have 100 million gun owners in this country. Two fucking crazy people went on a shooting rampage. That still leaves over 99.99 million gun owners who have done absolutely nothing illegal. How the fuck does two crazy people relate to that?
The fact of the matter is, crazy people are going to do crazy shit. You can't regulate actions. We will never prevent these people from going on shooting rampages. It doesn't matter how many loops we make them jump through to get their tools. Crazy people are going to do crazy shit because that's what they want to fucking do. They will manage to pull it off somehow.
I hope all of their regulations pass. I seriously fucking do. Just so we can finally rub this shit in their stupid fucking faces. Oh look, another shooting rampage despite the fact you have regulations up your fucking ass. How did that happen Mr. Authoritarian?
I wish these people could fucking wake up and use their heads for just one fucking second. Muh feelings > your liberty.
>>6230
their response will always be MORE REGULATIONS. no matter how many they put in and how many times it continues to happen they will always push for more
Do we know where they got the guns? Were they obtained legally?
One solution would appear to be better mental health screening for those seeking firearms. It's clear that many of these people are not compos mentis, for whatever reason. Paranoia-related gun nuttery clearly ran in the Lanza family.
I think people will misconstrue an ideology any which way they please, so long as it serves their purposes. I'm firmly irreligious, but I'm not really sure what you'd do about this sort of thing.
>>6233
the guns were legally obtained and the male bought the handguns. he did not buy the rifles but they were legally bought. last I saw they only knew the rifles were legally bought but they did not know if they were california legal or how the husband got them.
>>6231
I especially hate how the cite other countries as examples for their bullshit. We are in a country of almost 400 million people. The solutions to our problems are different from countries with 7 or 10 million, or 30 million.
Like when they talk about Canada when it comes to health care, despite the fact we are 10x bigger than Canada, with dozens of more territories.
>>6231
>>6230
I used to be ideologically opposed to all regulation myself, until I realized it's really a dead end. Powerful people will always be able push for their own agenda, and it'll be the same regardless of what tools they have at their disposal.
There are several agendas lining up-- the educated, self-styled sophisticated and wise whites who want to improve their social standing at the cost of their slightly less well-off peers is the first one. The well-heeled business class is the other--champing at the bit to drive living standards and wages down by importing a de-facto slave caste.
Understand the final goal of this isn't to implement regulation just to shore up their power base. It's to make being a poor white, the kind who likes to hunt and fish and drink unbearable. It's to marginalize them so they don't have leeway to unionize to demand better wages, and are derided as a backwards racist group if they try to get politically active in support of their own agenda. (don't mistake me for a populist with that last statement-- I'm just relaying the facts as I see them).
>>6241
thats why you need to thank god for the oil tycoons and rich rednecks. they like all those things and they have the money to protect the other people that like them too and theyre willing to do it.
>>6242
This is why trump is such a threat to them. He's rich sure, but he's definitely low-class in their calculus. He flaunts his wealth, which most educated rich whites consider the epitome of gauche. To them the ultimate status symbol is a little black baby adopted from a slum in Nigeria.
>>6218
When has this ever been enforced mr. islam apologist?
>>6068
At least he pisses off the right people.
>>6251
on every board that isnt /pol/ you can pay attention to the site if you would like
http://www.4chan.org/bans
>>6257
None of these look racist
>>6258
>or arabs or hispanics or any of those other dangerous minorities
hating muslims is ok. spouting racist things for no reason is contained to /pol/ and /b/
>>6259
Banned for being a tripfag, not racist
>>6259
No it isn't. maybe 1 in 20 examples actually get banned. At most it's a blue law, like drinking alcohol in a dry county.
I heard the terrorists apparently swore loyalty to ISIS on facebook, that's pretty damning.
>>6262
the wife did it on facebook after the first shooting and while they were on the run. she pledged her loyalty to the leader of ISIS.
fbi officially declared it an act of terror even though obama yesterday said we are not in any danger of an isis attack. obama has not said anything since the fbi ruled it a terror attack.
>>6260nigger
turns out one of the victims was an iran born muslim that left iran to get away from extremism. praise allah
So if another war breaks out will there be a draft? I'd like a generational war, might be a great way to promote national unity
>>6261
Even here, most blatant racism hasn't even been deleted from the board, let alone banned.
We've got tons of anti-semitic, islamophobic shit on this board and nobody's lifted a finger.
God they're going to let this turn into /pol/ 2.0.
>>6272
>God they're going to let this turn into /pol/ 2.0.
>implying mods give a crap about Hiro's pet news board
I'm not sure we even have janitors, just occasional mod visits to clean the CP and gore.
>>6272
every board on 4chan is full of /pol/, there's just no way to stop the cancer. no matter how many spin-off boards or bans they try to implement, they'll just keep coming because spouting their baseless nonsense on any other website will get them banned.
they should just make their own shitty image board, and circle jerk somewhere else.
>>6278
Isn't this illegal in some way in the US? Or at least maybe in the state where 4chan is hosted?
>>6276
do you even know what youre saying?
>>6280
>is free speech illegal? or at least maybe in the state where free speech is hosted?
fuck off muhammad
>>6280
>freedom of speech
America's last freedom
>>6234
You are aware it's illegal to sell those ARs to a resident of California, right?
>>6041
fucking this
I see more people crying about /pol/ than I do actual /pol/ shiposting
>>6427
Why do you /pol/ shitpost at all?
>>6438
/news/ is /pol/ with recent dates
>>6230
>Oh look, another shooting rampage despite the fact you have regulations up your fucking ass. How did that happen Mr. Authoritarian?
Ben Franklin Quotes:
“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
”Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.”
”He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.”
>>5856
No, no it doesn't.
So is this a bump for trump?
>>6816
No, this thread is on autosage.
Canadian Pastor Hyeon Soo Lim Sentenced to Life Sentence with Hard Labour.
> Canadian Pastor travels to North Korea, to aid people in need.
> Gets accused of commiting "Crime against the State"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/12052845/North-Korea-sentences-Canadian-pastor-to-hard-labour-for-life.html
Meh, that's not even a high score.
