Just got this from fuuka, seems things might not be as bad as they seem (maybe).
>>66423892
wew lad
>>66423892
wew lad
good
He does have all that shit backed up, right? He should distribute it to others just to make sure unless something bad really does happen.
>>66423892
that doesn't answer your question, can this nigga upload the database or not ?
>>66423892
a glimmer of hope boys
let it burn
>>66423980
this
all my embarrassing shitposts will now be lost in the mists of time
Come on Fuuka, Come on!!!!!!!
>>66423995
Fine, at this time.
We don't need an archive do we? Its probably 90% kpop general shit so we might as well judt get rid of it
>>66424041
kpop general really needs to be permanently moved to /trash/
Good news for the sharethreads also it looks like I don't have to retire this trip :^)
>>66424050
pls no, /trash/ used to be for comfy
move /kpop/ and waifushitters to a new board called /cel/ for eceleb shit, then move the metric fuckton of generals out of /trash/ back to their appropriate boards
Once the archive comes back we should save the web pages of the sharethreads to our own computers. Then if anything really bad happens we can have those and maybe upload them.
I just sent him something asking if he would be willing to distribute the files should he wish to discontinue rbt.asia. Hopefully he does give us the files and we can make our own backup, as a preventative measure.
>>66424071
/trash/ is for trash you fucking dweeb
don't make a community on a board that's meant for moving shit away
>>66424103
this
sharethreads are the only valuable threads of this board desu
>>66423892
what would 'really happen'?
like is some dickhead trying to take down the archives?
>>66424071
they stick to their own threads, there's literally nothing wrong with them you can just filter the word Kpop
okay so i don't know whether this means he's gonna share his files or not - I guess we'll have to download it ourselves when it goes back up.
>>66424114
but moving shit to it is barely ever done, especially nowadays
>>66424173
I don't mind them much desu, I just think they have literally no reason to be on this board as opposed to somewhere else
it's active waifufags like Grimesposters that are a real issue
>>66424218
whoops forgot image.
ask fuuka if hes down with death grips
>>66423892
I asked if he would be willing to upload the files so any of us could download it. This was his response.
>>66423892
>getting this concerned about a forum for Chinese cartoons
>>66424114
God, you sound like such a faggot
You should have seen /trash/ back when it was comfy
>>66424478
well shit, someone get on it
does anyone remember archive.no-ip?
good times.
>>66424478
How do I download this and use it?
Can I open it just like regular web pages and stuff?
>>66424478
he complains that there's no interest in this shit when people are freaking the fuck out over this, what a whiny cunt
at least most of the data is available as he said
>>66424537
when do you think it died
for me it was probably around march
november-february /trash/ was one of the best boards I've ever seen, and seeing it be so much better than other boards and how it's gone to being just as shit as them has made me realize just how worthless the time I waste coming to this website is
I can't even shitpost for fun anymore
Newfag here
What is all this about?
>>66424591
I've got no idea desu, I imagine it'd require some kind of tech knowhow which I unfortunately do not have. Maybe we could team up with /g/ if we wanna start our own, as they're also hosted by rbt.asia
>>66424517
>>66424478
>rbt-asia-mu-thumbs-2015-10-05.tar.gz
>rbt-asia-mu-thumbs-2016-03-01.tar.gz
Nothing for the images or posts themselves.
Nice one.
>>66424632
he complains that there's no interesting in helping host the archive
a lot of people value it, but nobody wants to waste their time managing it
>>66424741
a guy in the last thread said a new site (I think he said archive.mu-tech.org) would be up in like 4 hours, so that's not true either
>>66424517
>>66424753
the problem is more for the potentially lost data, rather than just having an archive up
So, question: when this site goes back up, is there gonna be any way for one of us to download the whole thing and get the data ourselves, or will we still need fuuka's involvement?
>>66424790
I understand that, what I'm saying is that him going "I don't care because nobody else cares to help" is blatantly false if some guy said he'd have a replacement site up in a matter of hours after the news broke
>>66424478
what a self righteous cunt
>>66423892
>>66424230
>>66424478
when you see OP getting fucked by fuuka harder than you'll ever be
>>66424816
I'm not the most technologically knowledgeable either, but if it goes back up it should be able to be ripped just fine. The issue is that it'd be highly inefficient, it would take much more time than just getting the data from him and it might be a massive pain in the ass to get all the data organized properly depending on how this all works.
>>66424819
Well I agree, he should have asked for help if he was having too many difficulties.
>>66424741
I meant that people speak much how they can help, but so far I haven't seen any other public /mu/ archive. Just start your own copy of fuuka/ffuka/whatever is your choice already.
>>66424732
daily_4klaani_2015-10-21_17h15m_Wednesday.sql.gz is database. Images takes hell lot of space, so I can upload these after you have gotten your archive up and running.
>>66424868
when the hope gets slimmer and slimmer by the minute
>>66424896
well it seems like things are working out for the best going by >>66424872, so don't worry
>>66424872
Do you know exactly how recent the database is, in regards to the archive.org version?
>>66424991
>2015-10-21_17h15m
Why not just use Soulseek, half the links in the archive are dead anyway
>>66425043
Aah, yeah. My bad. So we'd need everything from the 21st of October 2015 onwards, which I'm guessing is a whole heck of HDD space.
>>66424962
Yes, it's currently doing backups.
OP was first guy who even sent email of downtime. I never spoke with >>>66417324
And these messages like >>66424838 are just confirming my pessimistic-mind that why I shouldn't care of 4chan anymore. Well done guys.
>a bunch of leeches expecting someone else to deal with an backup archive
With all that money saved from downloading "epic reccs" I'm sure all of you could have chipped in something.
But one person will step up and just be given nothing in return except a title of "based" and nothing more.
#feelthebern
>>66425155
>an backup archive
a backup archive.
>>66425123
Yeah, some of us are dicks, but it's always the most vocal that make an impact. The archive is actually an insanely useful tool for a lot of people I know, especially those who have P2P connections blocked for some reason or another. Not to mention sharethreads, some of the most popular threads on this board, rely on the archive. I think I speak for all of us here when I say that you provide an invaluable service to /mu/. Here's hoping that we'll be able to carry the torch when you want to pass it on. Thanks, man.
It's up again! :^)
>>66425237
this
why is Venereologist so based? best new trip confirmed
>>66425285
bless your soul
>>66425285
oh well, non need of backups, we should stop our "efforts" in that case :^)
>>66425285
no it's not
>>66425053
it was quicker and you didn't have to pay 8$ a month
Am I the only one who would just search random things in it and see the discussions?
That shit was like a library for me.
>>66425123
>>66425402
its still there
>>66425402
You're not alone, m9.
>>66424004
they wont be lost for i will remember them <3
>>66425123
>And these messages like >>66424838 are just confirming my pessimistic-mind that why I shouldn't care of 4chan anymore. Well done guys.
For the record, I and many others ditched this place a while ago but still use the archive often. And as someone who has ran 4chan projects I know it can seem pretty thankless, but like >>66425237 point out there are a number of people who really appreciate it, and it'd be a huge shame to lose all the potential threads/links that people had bookmarked but had not gotten around to saving themselves.
I take it these archives are post-October 2015?
Seems to be back now, for me at least. I think we should still attempt to make our own archive, however. I'd try and do it myself but my upload speed is legitimately 20kB/s
>>66425285
Thanks senpai
>>66425155
>epic reccs
lol what
I'd say check with some number of other already existing archives to see if they could take it, email them or post on their sites or something. Its a more stable bet then a whole new archive.
Just a final addendum, fuuka approves of us starting our own archive.
>tfw you use rbt to look up your dead friends trip to read his old comments
>>66425521
Eh, now everything is gonna be alright forever. Let's go back to being lazy cunts outsourcing the whole work to someone else!
>>66425608
/thread
>>66425608
I think this has been a wakeup call for a lot of us here, and I know I'd be willing to throw a few quid into a new archive, even though I'm pretty goshdarn broke.
>>66425598
That's great. How can an average anon like me, with not a whole lot of computer experience, help with this endeavour?
>>66425598
I think a lot of people would donate if he ever sets something up for that.
>>66425668
the donation money will go towards hookers and blow, telling you right now.
>>66425653
Donate to whatever new site comes up (and rbt)
>>66425668
>I think a lot of people would donate
and that's where you're wrong
>>66425521
>>66425598
Damn dude, i'd really love to help so ill start to consider donating
>>66425668
They won't donate if you don't beg donations. Now I understand these wikipedia banners.
>>66425688
you never know until you try
>>66425682
people said the same thing about muT and we only did that a few times
>>66425653
I'm pretty sure we'd need someone who could set up some kind of hosting server, and then we'd throw money their way for maintenance costs.
>>66425521
Yes, great idea. Have a bunch of webspiders crawling and DDOSing the server that's at a weak state now instead of contacting the administrator to download the archive directly p2p.
>>66425289
fool
>>66425598
>fuuka approves of us starting our own archive.
>needing approval to archive something from the internet
lmao
>>66425701
yeah but mutracker was an embarrassment, everything about it was a waste of time.
>>66425739
so was your mother but neither of those things stopped me
>>66425757
so you're saying you thought mutracker was a good idea ?
>>66425708
I could offer some technical assistance maybe.
Also you might do with cheaper hosting via something like soyoustart, which is OVH so take that as you will.
>>66425776
we had >100k snatches, served several thousand users, made connections with other sites and provided mutual help for them, and had a nice economy that was unlike (nearly) any other PT out there, so yes
and I acknowledged every one of our flaws in the main page message (which is still up) but i'd be curious to hear why else you might think it wasn't a good idea - or at least, served good purpose
So, out of everyone in this thread, does anyone have the knowhow and means to set up a server, and a way for us to donate to the upkeep of said server, so we can begin our own archive?
>>66425909
Call back in a couple months
Soon it's fully back online.
>>66425426
For some reason I like of immature humor, and currently I am listening PLA's live prank show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyifSiRk1XE
>>66426043
Also I fixed that error message when connection between frontend and backend works correctly, but backend gives error.
>>66425831
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crs8Th76Mp0
it was nothing more than a parody of even the worst trackers out there, the content barely escaped /mu/'s collective musical worldview and the staff were some of the most delusional, incompetent fuckfaces i've ever talked to.
and the fact that the staff had to be reminded at one point to pay for the SSL cert goes without saying
a torrent tracker for hollow /mu/kids who don't know better and don't want to know better, how is that not a shit idea?
>>66426043
idk what the fuck is going on there. I guess I should be cheering, right!?
>>66425909
If nobody here can, maybe you can ask on /g/
>>66426071
but my ratio...
>>66426080
Shall I go over there and ask now?
>>66426089
yea so
with how laughably small the content was by the time of its (100% inevitable) closing, there's no reason why you couldn't hop on rutracker and call it a day.
furthermore if you don't know how to keep a decent ratio on trackers that require it (which is beyond easy) then you don't deserve free shit
>>66426119
I'm sure there is someone there crawling and archiving 4chan for historical reasons so try not to feel like somebody important for a bunch of people who need links to Swans albums.
>>66426119
Why not ask one of the other archives if they can do it?
>>66426164
>can't see a joke
>>66425909
ask desustorage m80, it has most boards already
>>66426196
>>66426216
Okay then I think I'll do that. I'll try 4plebs and desustorage.
>>66424041
there's also every megashare link ever posted in there so i mean
>>66426214
ya i know you were joking but i wanted to make a point anyway because evidently there are still idiots out there who advocate for mutracker lol
>>66426228
there's also maybe fireden, nyafuu, loveisover
I just know someone contaced 4plebs and they seemed unwilling
>>66423892
If you care about internet stuff disappearing and want to help preserve digital history, you should check out archive team http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Main_Page
how big is the database and how much would maintaining a server cost
>>66424632
i know this feel. back last january-february /qa/ was by far the comfiest board on the site, and i watched it die as it got infected with obnoxious tripfags (specifically punky brewster) and got raped by /s4s/
So here's the current situation: the last working backup we have is from 2015, October to be precise. It seems there won't be another backup in the near future so we'd be missing a lot data. I've been advised that under these circumstances rbt.asia is our best shot. Should we keep with it /mu/?
>>66426558
On disk database takes over 10gb, and cost can be anything depending how stable service you want.
>>66426702
like how complicated is setting it up
can i just use an old laptop and foward http to it from my router?
>>66426695
I don't know much about this but I'm sure if you knew anything about IRC you should be there begging for help to people that more about this shit than you do you would get a better response.
If the rbt.asia is still up and accessible you should be able to make an updated backup of it though I wouldn't know how they'd appropriately have a backup while crawling the current posts.
>>66426743
>like how complicated is setting it up
Well, it ain't fun.
>can i just use an old laptop and foward http to it from my router?
In theory yes, but most likely it will be slower than rbt.
>>66426270
Nice virus link that tried to eat my harddrives!
>>66426743
Not recommended, depends on traffic. Ought to be able to for private archival, but it does require some know-how on setting up a server, Apache/Nginx, PHP/Perl, Mysql/Mariadb and so on.
Thing is it can and generally is RAM-hungry depending on a few different settings.
>>66426071
>>it was nothing more than a parody of even the worst trackers out there, the content barely escaped /mu/'s collective musical worldview and the staff were some of the most delusional, incompetent fuckfaces i've ever talked to
you sound like you have no clue whatsoever as to what you are talking about, did you even have an account there? are you upset someone banned you?
that vid was my idea btw
>down again
fuck i was just in the middle of a downloading spree
>>66426967
DB is repairing itself, it ought to be temporary
Emphasis on "ought"
>>66426990
MySQL is fun.
>>66426990
Thank you for making the archive!
It appears we have a few options:
1) we set up the archive ourselves, with support from the desuarchives and fuuka folk
2)We continue to use rbt.asia, and cope with its downtime
3) we manage to get desuarchive to host us
4) we get someone else from the group to host us, though it'll probably be thumbnails only
A few of these depend on whether or not anounyym1 wants to set up a final archive (and we might miss a few days depending). We can more than likely continue to rely on rbt.asia, though.
what Im most interested in is
does a backup of archive.no-ip exist? (the archive that archive our posts from 2009 to 2012)
>>66427073
we could do both
most boards have multiple archives
>>66427099
*archived
>>66427073
if you want to host your own archive, we might be able to help you over at rizon.net #bibanon (most if not all 4chan archive admins/owners are in touch with us)
>>66427104
That is true, and is also an option. Though our archive would be terribly lacking w/o an update from the current 2015 backup.
>>66427073
I don't mind the downtime at all as long as it's functional at least at some time of day. I would rather than than have someone host it for a few months and then leave and lose more data.
>>66427145
I'm starting to think he wouldn't even know what IRC is.
>>66427073
Why not use Rebecca black tech or 4chan data
A bit off-topic, but what happened to desustorage?
>>66427241
its now desuarchive
That one /a/ archive died because of unnecessary load caused by multiple visits because it was linked in multiple news websites because of that /r9k/ school shooter.
I noticed RBT is linked quite often on knowyourmeme.com,aybe thats the reason its getting such load problems.
>>66424103
and then the file links die
>>66427268
how do you know that
do you visit knowyourmeme anon
>>66427312
zoinks!
>>66424103
I was gonna suggest that actually. I'm wondering if someone could set up a script that takes a text copy of all the shares and adds them to a pastebin or google doc that grows as the threads go on.
>>66427220
rbt.asia IS rebeccablacktech
rbt.asia is back up if anyone cares
>>66427371
bad idea, links on pastebin are more prune to bot killage than links on archives
https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/mu/
IS BACK
>>66427451
That's correct.
>>66424478
"People talk [about] how they can help, but in the end nothing happens."
Truer words were never typed
>go to the
>it's down again
fug
>>66424041
>>66424050
>>66424071
why do you guys cry about k-pop general so much?
they stay in their thread and rarely come out... if you don't like seeing their threads then add the subject "KPOP GENERAL" to the filter.
>>66428200
It should work, try refresh with ctrl+f5?
>>66426967
is there a best way to go about archiving specific threads only other than just saving the webpage?
>>66428277
why the fuck should I even have to do that?(let aside the fact that I did already long ago)
They do come out sometimes and they're not belonged to this board. It's that simple, they're not part of /mu/ - music. Isn't that enough reason to move these fags elsewhere? I'm a korean myself and even amongst korean only r9k tier losers cares about kpop(all faps to it though)
also feels that allowing these fags brought in waifufags who are even more of a cancer.
they need to go to /trash/.
>>66428683
Spend the time you would spend whining and make a better archive fucking maybe
Okay, so the site is currently being dumped onto someone else who is going to host it from now on. I've got no major ideas if this is gonna mean a site name change or anything, but wait it out guys and everything's gonna be fine.
>>66428958
why aren't they a part of /mu/? because they like musicians you don't like?
>>66429017
Good to know self-appointed ambassador of the /mu/ archive.
>>66429132
I'm sorry if I seem like I'm overstepping, I'm just trying to keep everyone informed as to what's going on. It just so happens that I was the first person to message fuuka and then talk in the IRC.
Archive is up
>>66429538
Was about to say this
>>66424632
dude i need my furry porn ok
>>66429569
I go there partially for the crazy furshit, the board has just gotten awful
>>66429587
i literally only go there for the porn so i cant really help you with any other aspects of the board
>>66429173
Well it seems you're doing the most effort so I shouldn't be bitching about it anyways.
I do think it would be helpful if there are some people archiving the upcoming 4chan posts here and there (but that would still take some effort beyond most of our skills) while some (with the means to do so) should focus on grepping (or whatever is useful) the entire current archive alongside the archive.org file. I just don't think the rbt archive should be accessible by web browsers right now and should be made for crawling at this point to lessen strain on the server.
Now that I think about it, /g/ is also archived there too so maybe they could actually help.
Oh there is also an archived.moe website too that could be scraped but I think they don't host full images and you can't search there like rbts and it may be built differently.
/armchair webmin commander out
>>66429614
I'm talking even for the porn. a few of the generals for certain things were comfy as fuck and constantly had drawfags in them but then shitposters came and ruined the whole place. it's why you sometimes see 8 of the same thread in the catalog, it's because some shitter in whatever general is sperging out, which is something that was never an issue early on in the board's existence. somehow the place managed to have literally no shitposting, and at least for that time it was pretty great.
>>66429663
>grepping
I obviously meant wget
I'm off to bed now guys, I'll update you with a new thread tomorrow if anything's happened, which it is liable too. Night anons.
>>66429663
Well actually the archive is being transferred by fuuka rn so trying to avoid server load is prolly best. I'm talking w/ Bibliotecha Anonoma and they seem to be willing to help archive it.
>>66429673
i will say theres way too much straight shit and weird fetishes
for a website that has enough gay people on it theres way too many vagines
>>66429759
if anything the board needs more weird fetishes, that's one of the things that made it so fascinating originally. I mean for fucks sake, there's pics of the board mascot unbirthing and impregnating herself with a garbage can, and that was pretty indicative of the type of stuff you could find there originally. now most of the really niche fetish threads have died due to the board's speed and a fuckton of people wanting only the most vanilla and basic content of their fetish possible to be posted have flooded it.
that being said, I do agree that it's surprising how much more female and straight content is posted than male and gay stuff.
>>66429941
hahahaha trash can impregnation sounds like a bad mid 2000s underground punk band
>>66429957
fuck, you're right
>>66429941
but this kind of stuff should be posted on /d/, right?
>>66429988
I'm talking about that type of stuff as furshit, which I'm sure /d/ definitely doesn't want. I mean just look at how the /d/-/aco/ split was handled, trying to undo that and also include furry content would be a massive shitstorm.
>>66430161
o ok thx for the clarification
(i don't go to /d/ anymore, the random /b/ fur-threads are enough to satisfy me nowadays)
